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The Future Is Now. Or Maybe Not. No, Probably Not.

Posted in Uncategorized by pawliekokonuts on July 27, 2012

Enough of the obsequiousness. Enough of fellow Flappers saying, “Great thread! Good topic!” This lazily constructed bit of verbal fabric (i.e., “loose thread”) will put a leaden-thump of an end to that, for one day.

Girls, today we will prognosticate the results of this weekend’s series with the Dodgers. (If it is a four-game series, better yet a demonstration of my morning haziness.) You will notice in the following that I haven’t even bothered to name the Dodgers’ winning or losing pitchers or HR hitters. Can’t be bothered.

FRIDAY:

SF 5  LA 3

WP: Cain  Save: Casilla  HRs: Schierholtz, Belt

SATURDAY:

LA 7  SF 3

LP: Zito  HRs: None.

SUNDAY:

SF 4  LA 2

WP: Vogelsong   Save: Affeldt  HRs: Melky

Have at it.

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  1. DJLoo said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    Kent, Haller?

  2. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    I had Butler. Reggie Smith? Orel?

  3. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    Kent sounds right though.

  4. ewisco said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    edd, when you said that the queen and 007 jumped into the stadium, i laughed my ass off, thinking you pulled it out of your imagination. alas, you were merely documenting the actuality.

    • zumiee said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:31 pm

      Yeah, we’ve been flipping over there once in a while. It’s a very cool production. Great job on the event. I liked the whole steampunk industrial era stuff that was going on. It was big-time theater.

  5. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    Fuuuuuuck. He had his eyes closed.

  6. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    When exactly did the opening ceremonies turn into the first 15 minutes of a Bond movie?

  7. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    Dial a shot for DJ…

    • Bozo said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:48 pm

      Dial a shot? Now you’re talking clown, Unca.

  8. twinfan1 said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    The hope is that a player hits the same with RISP as he does in “regular” ABs, anything more is gravy.. Pagan isn’t counted on anymore than anyone else in that regard. And hitting w/RISP is not a figure that is dependant on batting order postion, except maybe the 8.

    • ewisco said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:44 pm

      color me naive, but i’m thinking that the guys in the middle need to hit with risp. one of the points for setting the lineup is that you figure the guys at the top will get on and the guys in the middle will drive them in. so you hope that the guys in the middle will hit better with risp than anyone else. otherwise, you replace them.

      • twinfan1 said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:11 pm

        As I said- the hope is that a guy hits his regular average with RISP. So obviously the better hitters should also hit better w/RISP- and at .256, Pagan’s actually IS one of the better ones. But it does not matter where one hits in the order as far as hitting their average w/RISP- for example, Theriot is hitting .191 w/RISP= he should be hitting .282, the same as his regular average. What the middle of the order hitters are expected to do more than the others- is drive in MORE runs with their chances.Pagan doesn’t have the extra base power one likes in the MOR.

  9. Macdog said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    From Baggs: “Charlie Culberson was pulled from tonight’s game in Fresno. Looks like Giants will be announcing a deal tonight.”

  10. pawliekokonuts said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    FLASH Scutaro for Culberson.

    • Macdog said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:49 pm

      Ha, just beat me to it.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:50 pm

      from Troy Renck tweet, Rox writer

  11. Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    No surprise we’re down 2-1 (notice, I didn’t use the word *deserve*.). We’ve had this sinkerballin’ fuck on the ropes all night and haven’t closed the deal on shit.

    • Bozo said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:56 pm

      Agreed. God damn it, this guy is nothing and he’s toying with our guys.

      Angry clowns are not a pretty sight.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:58 pm

        nor are happy clowns

      • Del Mar Dennis said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:03 pm

        Ever see the movie “The Devil’s Rejects?” That’s the angriest clown I’ve ever seen in my life. I wouldn’t dare tell him to go fuck off.

  12. Del Mar Dennis said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    At least I won’t have to put up with Burriss and his goddamn bunting any longer…

  13. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    Fucker’s tjhrown like 80 pitches and left 7 on base.

  14. pawliekokonuts said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    My limited knowledge of Marco Scutaro: great name, great defensive play in Game 162 last year, seemed to run not quite fast enough on a key play in the same game. Don’t look over your shoulder; run like f*ck, Marco, and just watch Flannery.

    • zumiee said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:00 pm

      I saw him play some games in Single A. It seems like a zillion years ago now.

  15. pawliekokonuts said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    This game is starting to piss me off, and I’m tired.

  16. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    Fuck this.

    • unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:02 pm

      Double fuck. Fucking Fifre started this shit.

      • DJLoo said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:09 pm

        That’s Fife, funny as it seems….

  17. TedSpe said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    twinfan said, on July 27, 2012 at 8:37 pm
    The hope is that a player hits the same with RISP as he does in “regular” ABs, anything more is gravy.. Pagan isn’t counted on anymore than anyone else in that regard. And hitting w/RISP is not a figure that is dependant on batting order postion, except maybe the 8.
    —————————————————————————————————-
    Exactamundo. If you’re a good hitter, you have a good RISP because you fell in a position to have a RISP. Same as a “clutch hitter”. No such thing. You can hit or you can’t hit.
    Period. Number of saves as well. You have a lot of saves when you’re in a save position. No more, no less

    • ewisco said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:11 pm

      i hear what you’re saying. not sure i’m buying. pagan in the early part of the season had the softest, meaning not hitting with risp, hitting streak i’ve seen. reminded me of al oliver, owwwh, .300, but not so much when there are ducks on the pond.

      not sure where you’re your going with saves. there is a difference between people who can pitch at the end of the game and those who don’t. i compare it to relays. the guy at the end is your best guy, the guy who can bring it home, make up a gap, whatever. the pressure is intense. not many people, good people, can handle that. a save is not a save.

      • twinfan1 said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:15 pm

        Al Oiver hit .309 w/RISP, .303 in regular ABs.

      • ewisco said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:16 pm

        as a giant?

      • twinfan1 said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:23 pm

        Career. But that’s the point when it’s said that it evens out- Nate was killer last year, at least the first half. Career he’s .272 RISP, ,270 regular. Like almost everybody- it evens out in the long run.

      • TedSpe said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:26 pm

        You mofos are arguing just to argue. A guy can hit .375 for a year. But if that .375 didn’t include RISP, that RISP can be .204 and that ain’t his fault. That;s the guys hitting in front of him. RISP depends on the guys in front of you. You can either hit or you can’t hit.
        And saves. If you have 78 save positions and you lead the league in saves with 47, you still blew 31 chances.
        Why do I have to explain this shit to youse?

    • twinfan1 said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:38 pm

      I’m not arguing, Ted. I’m trying to explain RISP. And sorry, but now you are wrong. RISP is an AVERAGE. If a hits .200 with RISP, it’s totally his doing. To round it off- 100 guys were in RISP when he batted- but he only got 20 hits. He is not penalized if no one is in scoring position ahead of him.

      • TedSpe said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:57 pm

        Yeah, you’re right. I just get annoyed with people that blame ballplayers for having bad RISP when they don’t understand the circumstances that apply to RISP.

  18. Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    I know it was only 2 five second clips, but Scully looks like he’s doing his HW. He had his glasses on, a pen in his hand, he was shuffling papers and kept looking to the left over and over again. He’s still bringin’ it. Either that, or he doesn’t know what the hell is happening or what he’s doing, it looked like that too. :)

    • ewisco said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:15 pm

      what a marvelous day for all concerned.

  19. Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Scutaro’s a baller, I like this pick up. He’s not going to do anything besides his job and stay out of the way of fucking shit up. His stats were a little high playing in Boston and, hey, probably in Col too. But he’s still stealing bags and hitting. He’s not done. The same could NOT be said about last year’s deadline acquisition (Cabrera). And I still can’t remember which one it was……..

  20. DJLoo said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Do you remember Scutaro’s walk-off grand slam in Oakland a few years ago off Mariano?

    • Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:26 pm

      absolutely. (I think it was with 2 outs, 2 strikes.He’s worse than Freddy at his best in SF and basically *Theriot with more power right now.” I’ll take that as some depth. Now we need a first baseman……

      • DJLoo said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:32 pm

        Just looked it up. It was actually a 2 out 3 run job not a GS. (4-15-07). I didn’t realize that he was still a regular.
        A decent pick-up for nothing I guess…

      • Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:37 pm

        Exactly: nothing. I remember the dumbfounded looks on everyone after he took down Mo. Felt like a grand slam.

  21. Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    very pissed off we didn’t hit this guy, he was *had-able*……

  22. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    Time to beat the Choad . . .

  23. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…………………………………………..

  24. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    Fuck this. I gotta watch the O;ympics?

    • sandog said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:35 pm

      I know things aren’t going well Chuck, but let’s not get crazy.

  25. DJLoo said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    Nice tits, nice catch….it’s like a variety show.

  26. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    Ted, you lose your mind tonight? Yoiur 9:26 post is backward pretzel logic. If someone blew 31 saves, they wouldn’t be a closer.

    If someone is hitting .204 with RISP, then, when guys are on base, he’s not getting hits. It has nothing to do with the other guys. He may not get getting that many opportunities, but then they are there, he’s failing.

    • tedspe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:13 pm

      Truth be told? Yes chuck. I think I’ve lost my mind tonight.

  27. Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    Belasario looks like a bloated version of Julian Tavarez…..

  28. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    Fuggly AB for Posey there . . .

  29. Macdog said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    Beltman!

  30. Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    Excellent. Now THAT is a hit that matters…….

  31. DJLoo said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    Book it: Pawlie sleeps – Giants rally

    • Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:54 pm

      I’d make this POTD if I didn’t think it would cause him to tear up a little bit while sipping his morning green tea. I’ve got no idea what PK drinks in the morning but I just assumed writers drink green tea instead of coffee.
      Maybe I’m just used to it. Most of the writers I know are from Marin. :)

      • TedSpe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:03 pm

        Too fucking funny.
        POTD. And we LUV pawlie

  32. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    aNGEL BABY!

  33. Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    I still think Belt’s moving his hands too much as he starts to address the ball. *Jazz hands in reverse*. But that’s a post for another time……

    • ewisco said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:55 pm

      you should have watched his front foot. he must have moved it 3 or 4 times.

  34. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    Redemption Song!!!

  35. Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    I’m a big fan of the wRC+ stat but that stat doesn’t mean shit. It’s just an indicator of something better (or worse) that *might* happen in the future. It helps you make fantasy baseball decisions.
    That broken bat line drive hit was worth a million wRC+ units…..

  36. TedSpe said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    test

    • Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:51 pm

      pass!

      • TedSpe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:01 pm

        Funny, Flav. Nah it’s just I lost my login for being a Stable Boy.
        I’ll figure it out. I better before Wednesday.

  37. ewisco said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    “watching” the rest on radio. ‘night lads.

  38. zumiee said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Yeah, that was an interesting slo-mo of Belt hitting. Seemed like a lot of “extra” movement going on.

    • Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:01 pm

      His hands always look like that. I noticed it a while back after I watched an Ike Davis at bat–Belt does the same thing……

  39. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Casilla’s not wasting shit. That;s way too much zone on those last 3.

  40. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Now, MISS the zone

  41. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    OK, enough missing…………

  42. TedSpe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    I miss Angela Mao Ying movies

    • unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:06 pm

      Are those like Yoko Ono albums?

      • TedSpe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:07 pm

        Kinda. Only…not

    • TedSpe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:06 pm

      This is a test

  43. zumiee said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    That was…..big time!

  44. tedspe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    Schwing

  45. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    End this bitch . . .

  46. tedspe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    I’m back in, baby YEAH!!!

    On the other hand…I have to watch a Nate AB

    • zumiee said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:14 pm

      There is no greater truth in baseball than Nate gets worse the more he plays.

    • tedspe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:16 pm

      Sort of a reverse Zen thingie

  47. zumiee said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    The time zone thing is a trip. People on the East Coast can watch live major league baseball at 1:20 AM right now.

  48. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    Like that Tubes album. The completion backwards principle.

  49. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    It’s still happy our in Hawaii

  50. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    Edd may catch the end of this . . .

  51. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    Fuck. Bad call. Home run.

  52. tedspe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    Uhm…oops

  53. Macdog said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    Fuck.

  54. Del Mar Dennis said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    But we traded for Scutaro.

  55. DJLoo said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    They better knock that fucker down tomorrow…

    • Del Mar Dennis said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:29 pm

      What the hell was Hanley exactly doing? Making like he was using binoculars or something?
      That was a new one.

  56. tedspe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    Oooookay. So. 2 outta 3?

  57. snarkk said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    Nah, HanRam won’t make any difference…

    • Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:34 pm

      on his fifth time through the LU, in an at bat he shouldn’t even have had, he finally got a hit, hitting a spinning, floating hanger—then he acted like a jackass.
      You know guys like that? I do, and they aren’t winners.

  58. Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    Hanley’s a 2nd rate pussy. His idea of winning a game (before it’s won) is to trot around the bases with some pussy gesture and smiling like a fucking circus clown for 10 minutes afterwards? He’s 1-5 tonight. He can keep celebrating his few success this year with gestures and whores (later) but he better stop acting like a low class out-of-towner if he wants to ever be a part of a pennant race.
    You’re not in Miami anymore, you fuck………

    • tedspe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:36 pm

      As crude as that was…poetry my friend. Pure poetry

    • snarkk said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:40 pm

      He did exactly what they got him for. You can carp on how he looks doing it, but the HR counts just the same…

      • Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 11:02 pm

        anyone could have hit that shitty pitch. Baseball is about producing over a long period of time. I’m betting that he drops back into his usual, casual under-producing shit spot in the tank. I don’t give a shit about a lucky swing on a shitty pitch. He was 0-4 before that gift.

    • shaman138 said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:44 pm

      The whole stupid doggies team have been acting smug and arrogant all night. I actually hate them so much more than I did three hours ago.

  59. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    Nothing like warm Melk

  60. shaman138 said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    I hate Hanley Ramirez. Hate. That home plate ump fucked us over the whole game.

    • tedspe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:37 pm

      See Flav’s 10:32 above. Poetry

    • shaman138 said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:39 pm

      And he just called two outside corners strikes
      Fuckhead.

  61. snarkk said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    Here is where not DLing Panda and being short a body really hurts. With Burriss on the bench. Yikes…

  62. tedspe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    Well…fuck.

  63. tedspe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    Anyways

  64. snarkk said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    Typical Giant/Dodger tilt. As expected, Gyros got handcuffed by an unknown, then rallied against the pen. But, Romo got screwed by the ump, and that left the door open. We desperately need another power bat, and that ain’t Scutaro. Night gents…

    • tedspe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:50 pm

      Yeah, snarkk, Romo got screwed all right. Night, sir.
      I miss Sandoval

  65. Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    I’m ok with this. We lost because we couldn’t finish off a shitty pitcher and then the umpire fucked us to give Hanley a free swing at a hanging spinner…..Hanley’s gonna eat that shit-eating grin. You hit .200 tonight you fuck and you respond with gestures and a 10 minute shit-eating grin? Can you imagine Buster Posey doing that? And he might turn out to prove me wrong about him, but his last few years he’s been nothing but a loser. LOSER. His team has lost, he’s been *the leader* and he’s failed expectations. That’s a loser.
    Shit eating grin = payback later…….

    • tedspe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:59 pm

      Flav, once in a while, as crass as it seems. you gotta give yourself POTD. Cuz this was one of them.
      Excellent

      • Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 11:17 pm

        thanks, but I’ve already exacta’d the POTD and it’s the first time I’ve ever given it to myself. Probably no room for the trifecta. But my point has been made so…,moving on.

      • Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 11:19 pm

        what the hell, go big or go home. That’s a saying that pussy Hanley might want to learn. WTF kind of a name is that anyway?

      • tedspe said, on July 27, 2012 at 11:56 pm

        hahahhaha Too fuckin funny. Just checked for the fuck of it.
        Excellent

  66. tedspe said, on July 27, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    Whence one loses to a fucketh opponent…one fucketh thus oppenent anon.
    In other words…Giants….2 outta 3
    L.A.
    Fucketh themeth

    (I guess Greeks *do*lispth)

    Goodnight lads

  67. DJLoo said, on July 27, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    Ted’s right, BF…Your 10:32 was even better than your 10:34. Put ‘em both up there. The first POTD coupled entry dead heat.

    • Flavor said, on July 27, 2012 at 11:15 pm

      done. And why are you still awake? lol. I’m hitting the sack, leaving early tomorrow.

  68. Berger said, on July 28, 2012 at 1:01 am

    We were tied, took Nate out, and lost. Any questions?

  69. Berger said, on July 28, 2012 at 1:07 am

    Flavor- I do not know how to find your email. Mine is fortyninerberger@yahoo.com. If you email me your cell # I will see you on Saturday. If not, fuck you! Especially since I am smoking a picnic roast.

    • Nipper said, on July 28, 2012 at 2:24 am

      Send the spam!

  70. eddacker said, on July 28, 2012 at 3:51 am

    the trifecta of POTDs I saw the goggles thing, what a *.

  71. twinfan1 said, on July 28, 2012 at 8:49 am

    wRC+ is not just a predictive tool- it is ( as Craig correctly noted when a poster used the “Runs Created” stat to show Belt’s productivity) an imroved version of “runs created”, and is park and league adjusted.It is a real time stat. Quite simply, it is an all encompassing measure of a player’s offensive contribution. The higher the number the better.


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