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Inside of a Month to Go

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on January 15, 2013

29 days….

And counting….

Downward.

This off season has been unusual for me. Very little Giants news to highlight or even be interested in. That’s what you get after you win a world series. Luckily for me, I’ve got the Niners to obsess about for at least another week (and likely longer). I haven’t had to turn the channel when hockey highlights come on but unfortunately that’s going to change soon. The Warriors are actually semi-engaging to watch this year. Stanford won the Rose Bowl. And hey, not that I care about it, but I heard Cal might graduate 50% of their football players this year. Come on, any trend upward with that number is something to celebrate! :) :) :)

So yeah, it’s been a pretty uplifting off season, considering how dark and cold it always is. And we’re inside of a month to go before P’s and C’s report to spring training. Ah, seem like just yesterday that I was searching for numbers in the low 90’s for the countdown….

 

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  1. blade3colorado said, on January 15, 2013 at 6:36 am

    Great post Flav (albeit, snarkk might take exception to the Cal remark. Ha.).

    • snarkk said, on January 15, 2013 at 11:22 am

      Well, at Cal they actually give grades lower than a B…

      • Alleykat said, on January 15, 2013 at 1:13 pm

        Yeah of course Joe is “King of alltime”
        Nobody will EVER TOP HIM!!
        Should have automactially said Joe Cool.
        Just going current time.
        Yeah i go Buster,2 rings MVP tops out right now.

  2. blade3colorado said, on January 15, 2013 at 6:39 am

    I revised a post on my blog from yesterday . . . I always thought Ferdinand Magellan had circled the world. Actually, no. Nor did Christopher Columbus (4 voyages back and forth across the Atlantic). Anywho, I am going to eat both of their lunches on this trip.

    http://aroundtheworldwithblade.wordpress.com/2013/01/14/interactive-world-map-provides-details-for-each-country-i-am-visiting/

  3. Bozo said, on January 15, 2013 at 6:50 am

    Once again, great job getting us through the winter months, Flav.

    • blade3colorado said, on January 15, 2013 at 6:54 am

      Ditto that Bozo!

  4. Alleykat said, on January 15, 2013 at 7:36 am

    3 Cheers for Magnus!!
    And of course a crushing in your face beat down of the Falcons this weekend!!!.
    49ers quest for 6 as they burn down Georgia.

  5. Bozo said, on January 15, 2013 at 7:51 am

    This might be more for the NY Finnerty’s crowd here, but others might enjoy it as well.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/14/sports/baseball/giants-left-their-hearts-at-coogans-bluff.html?ref=baseball&_r=1&

    • salty said, on January 15, 2013 at 9:09 am

      Makes me want to plan a trip to ny in Sept. Thanks for the link.

    • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:14 am

      Clown – excellent article…thanks much for sharing. Not sure who else read this, but there are two other very good articles linked in this article. Here are the links:

      http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/03/sports/baseball/03vecsey.html?_r=2&

      This second linked article is about Mike Murphy…another excellent read:

      http://abcnews.go.com/WN/san-francisco-giants-secret-weapon-mike-murphy-clubhouse/story?id=12067884

      One of the things I have always loved about this franchise is how they honor their history…and it is a long history.

      My daughter’s boyfriend is a Mets fan (also the pitching coach for Sacramento State)…would love to go back to NY for a trip and the Mets series.

      • Macdog said, on January 15, 2013 at 12:06 pm

        Clown and Chi: Thanx for those two excellent NYT articles.

      • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 1:13 pm

        My pleasure, Mac…John was the one who got the ball rolling…

  6. willedav said, on January 15, 2013 at 7:54 am

    so much cool stuff going on, with Niners rolling through to NFC title game again, college and HS b-ball in conference battles, hockey finally starting up (sharks TV announcers are great), and ST right around the corner.
    The retro post from Cristin the other day got me thinking…..TL and Zito are going to be paid approx. $35 mil btw them, so what do you expect to get for that? 25 Ws? I can handle Z at back end of rotation. I’m hoping Lincecum has re-dedicated himself to getting in top shape, and can take what he did in post season relief appearances to refine his mechanics and mental approach.
    Uncertain what the alternatives would be in worst case scenario that either or both of them struggle with control and become shaky 5 inning guys; in other words, both of them are #5 starters.

  7. Salty said, on January 15, 2013 at 7:56 am

    We’ve seen quite a turnaround with Bay Area sports teams. Go back to 2008, Giants won just 72 games, A’s 75, 49er’s were 7-9, Warriors 29-53 and Stanford finished 5-7 ( Harbaugh’s first year). Not only are they good, but they are young.

  8. Alleykat said, on January 15, 2013 at 8:22 am

    Colin Kaepernick…No suprise “Rockin the new cover of Sports Illustrated”
    Niners Baby!!!! All the way!!!!

  9. willedav said, on January 15, 2013 at 8:23 am

    Hey Bozo, I think yesterday was b-day of Allen Toussaint. Jazz radio station I listen to played he and elvis costello recording and one with AT and Trombone shorty from “St. Peter and 57th street.” I really dug the cd he did few years ago with a lot of monk stuff on it, bright mississippi.

    • Bozo said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:01 am

      Bright Mississippi is an awesome CD, Willie. About four years ago I got to chat with him while he was watching Shorty play (in the crowd, not backstage). Just a wonderful person IMO. One of the highlight for me at Jazz Fest is the many interviews they have (they do them up inside the Grandstand and even with a few hundred people it has a very intimate feel to it). The year after Snooks Eaglin died it was Mr Toussaint and George Porter Jr telling great stories about Snooks, Mr Toussaint had an electric piano and George had his bass with him so they also jammed a bit. A definite highlight reel moment, along with the Sonny Rollins interview a few years ago and the Marcia Ball interview by Harry Shearer during the Fest after Katrina.

      Willie, have you ever been to Jazz Fest? You should check out the line-ups. This years will be announced on Thursday, here’s the link if you’re interested http://www.nojazzfest.com/

      Cheers man

      • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:22 am

        John – I was in Nawlins with the Air Force a number of years ago (was there for two weeks), and was blessed with the opportunity to catch the entire French Quarter Festival (three days, I believe) and the opening day of the Jazz and Heritage Fest. Wish I would have been there for more of the Jazz Fest…but both were awesome experiences. Gail (my better half) and I have talked about a trip to the Big Easy (I have been four times)…she never. Would like to coincide it with the FQ fest and a part of the Jazz Fest. Are you going this year?

      • Bozo said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:51 am

        Chi, we will be going to Jazz Fest again this year (also Mardi Gras). Not sure if we’ll be able to do both weekends like we have in the past but we’ll see (every $250 I spend these days is one less load of dirt). FQ fest is great and still free but I doubt you’d recognize it now, it’s gotten huge, I mean like wall to wall people, huge.

        When you decide to go to NOLA again, let me know if you need or want any recommendations for your back pocket.

      • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 11:47 am

        Will do re: the recommendations and thanks on that note. Yeah, the crowds were not huge for the FQ fest (and again, this was probably 15 years ago). Almost exclusively local talent, and fairly small crowds. It was awesome…as was the one day of the Jazz Fest that I got to experience.

  10. twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Still not dead sure I’m right, but I think that the last year the Giants, Niners, and Warriors all made the postseason in the same year was the 1970/1971 season ( Niners and Warriors finished the 1970 season in ’71 of course). If the Warriors finish the job, it will mark 42 years). Almost as cool as those Niner dynasty years were for the team, they extended the holiday season in my house. Color me weird, but the Christmas decorations didn’t come down until the last Niner game- and goldurn if that didn’t take us almost until P&C day. I’m going to list the guys who I think are most key in bringing us what looks to be that first Trifecta since before a few of you were born and the rest of us were just aspiring Rock Stars. These are my 2012/2013 Bay Team All-Stars-it’s a personal list, of course- there’s room for everybody’s choices to join this listing.
    Giants: Sabes/Bochy, Posey,Pagan,Scooter,Panda, Cain,Vogelsong, MadBum,Zito,Romo, Affeldt, Casilla,.Co-Team MVPs-Bochy and Posey
    Niners: Harbaugh, Gore, Crabtree, Staley,the Smiths (Aldon,Justin, and Alex), Kap, Willis, Bowman, Goldson, C.J.
    Team MVPs: Jimbo,Gore,Justin,Aldon,Crabs,Our two All-Star QBs- and I nominate these two as the best duo in Football-hands down. There could be more MVPs- this is a terrific team.
    Warriors: Mark Jackson, Jerry West, Curry, Lee, Landry/Jack
    Co-MVPs: Jackson,Lee

    • twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 9:37 am

      Force me to make one choice for the team MVPs and it’s the 3 guys who run the show- Bochy, Harbaugh, Jackson. And for my Final Word (maybe) on the QB switch: IMO Smith was taking them to the Super Bowl anyway- but this will work out best for Alex as he finally gets the Muni tracks off his back and Kap is finishing the job in fine fashion as we go on to my call when Alex was the starter-a victory over Baltimore in the Super Bowl, 17-16.

      • Macdog said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:05 am

        Warriors made the playoffs in 1988-89, beating Utah in the 1st round and losing to Phoenix in 2nd round.

      • twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:16 am

        What I said was that all 3 had never done it the same season.”I think that the last year the Giants, Niners, and Warriors all made the postseason in the same year was the 1970/1971 season”
        The Giants were 4th in the NL West that season and did not make the playoffs.

      • unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:17 am

        The Giants didn’t make it in 88 though. Did the Dubs make it in 1989-90?

      • twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:25 am

        Hey, nuttin better than Chuck confirming my comment. Are we pals now?

      • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:26 am

        Read an interesting article earlier (some of you may have seen it) where the parallels were drawn between Walsh/Montana and Harbaugh/Kaepernick.

        http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/ostler/article/Echoes-of-past-in-Harbaugh-Kaepernick-4193970.php

        Interesting how both QBs took over the starting jobs in similar fashion…in their second year.

      • Macdog said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:29 am

        Although many of us would like to forget the outcome, the Giants did make it to the World Series in 1989.

      • twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:52 am

        Mac, I know that. The 1989/1990 Warriors were 37-45 and did not make the postseason. What I’ve been positing is that ALL three have not made it in the same season since the season of 1970.And now I see I’m wrong on that-the Giants were 3rd in the West- so as far as I see, it hasn’t happened until at least some year before 1970. Maybe never, I’ll keep looking but if Warriors do it this it might be a first.

      • twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 11:11 am

        Chi, I haven’t read the article but it’s not similar fashion at all- the Niners sucked after Joe took over in his second year, and sucked before he took over.They were 2-5 in the games he started. And sucked in Bill’s first year with Deberg. Niners were 19-5 with Jimbo and Smith in the regular season before Kap took over.

      • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 11:50 am

        Michael – Maybe no parallels re: winning, but certainly other similarities. Regardless, I thought it was a good read and simply wanted to throw it out there to see if anyone else would enjoy it…

      • twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 12:04 pm

        Well, not just winning, Also the proficiency about the QBs they replaced.And the fact that Joe didn’t get the job because Deberg was injured. In fact Smith was far better under Harbaugh than Deberg was under Walsh and Kap has thus far been way better than Joe was when he took over. In fact, just counting the time all of the 4 QBs played in their first two seasons with the new coach, Smith and Kap have both been better than Deberg or Montana- fact, not opinion.
        ( this is just confined to the first two seasons nder Walsh and Harbaugh, not an overall comparison. Joe was the greatest QB we’ve ever had, although not the best ever in the NFL. The WCO is QB friendly and he never played anything other than a WCO. Taking into account that factor I’d rate him behind Unitas and Otto Graham, although there’s a huge case for Otto, who took the Browns to 10 title games in 10 seasons and won 7 of them)

      • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 1:16 pm

        Points well taken, Twin. I was very young in Unitas’s day, so I don’t recall much of his career, and have no historical background on Graham. But 10 straight title games and winning 7 of those is very impressive.

        For my lifetime of watching the NFL, Montana is definitely the best that I recall seeing.

  11. dirtnrocksnomo said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:19 am

    Anyone else see the Romo (Mexico) and Vogglesong (USA) are gearing up to play the World Baseball Classic?After pitching so deep in the year I think this is a bad idea.

    • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:27 am

      Heard about it on KNBR. Also Affeldt for the Giants. Romo is “thinking about it” is what I heard, and the same is true of Pablo…thinking of playing for Venzuela.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:29 am

        While there is still the chance of injury, I am okay with position players participating but the pithcers should be resting their arms.

      • Salty said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:39 am

        They won’t be resting their arms though. If not the WBC, they would be pitching in ST games.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:50 am

        Okay, maybe I should rephrase that. Point being they won’t be going 100% in spring training and will be building up arm strength. I think the WBC is a bad idea for Giants pitchers.

      • blade3colorado said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:54 am

        I’m all for the WBC, as long as our players aren’t in it. Selfish? Yes. But I could give a rat’s ass. Players, especially pitchers (as Dirt alluded to) have a finite career and I want our players to expend their “odometer” on the Giants dime, not the WBC.

  12. chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:29 am

    To echo a few others…thanks Craig for doing such a kick-ass job at keeping this place alive and kicking during the off-season. I have been close to posting a thread a couple of times only to find that you have posted something engaging. I will still try to squeeze at least on in before the year really gears-up. But sincerely…thanks for keeping the Flap Flag flying.

    • Flavor said, on January 15, 2013 at 11:20 am

      no problem, Chi. We’ve almost made it through another long, dark winter!

  13. unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Posey turned down the opportunity to play for the US. Thank God.

    • blade3colorado said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:55 am

      I am happy about that.

  14. blade3colorado said, on January 15, 2013 at 11:06 am

    This goes hand in hand with Chi’s 10:29am post, Bozo’s 6:50am and my 6:54am post. Read this if you want to know how successful the Flap has been in 2012:

    http://oneflapdown77.com/2012/annual-report/

    Some highlights . . .

    Crunchy numbers

    About 55,000 tourists visit Liechtenstein every year. This blog was viewed about 270,000 times in 2012. If it were Liechtenstein, it would take about 5 years for that many people to see it. Your blog had more visits than a small country in Europe!

    In 2012, there were 364 new posts, growing the total archive of this blog to 974 posts. There were 440 pictures uploaded, taking up a total of 61 MB. That’s about a picture per day.

    The busiest day of the year was May 15th with 2,268 views. The most popular post that day was Left for Dead, Now Seizing Their Moment.

    Who were they?

    Your most commented on post in 2012 was Citizen Cain

    Even though I want a recount with regard to the most active posters (where the fuck am I????) . . . These were your 5 most active commenters:

    1 PawlieKokonuts 1643 comments
    2 Del Mar Dennis 1638 comments
    3 DJLoo 1539 comments
    4 Nipper 1204 comments
    5 Alleykat 623 comments

    WAY TO GO FLAV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 11:18 am

      I’m deeply insulted by those faulty numbers. I supppose it’s posibble that the first four had more comments than I made, although it’s highly unlikely. I’m absolutely positive they all had less time on their hands than I did to be “dead in wrong in public” ;-)

    • Flavor said, on January 15, 2013 at 11:19 am

      it’s not accurate, it’s just a bs thing wordpress puts out each year to try to summarize the blog activity. The 5 most active follows is wrong, too.

      • blade3colorado said, on January 15, 2013 at 11:23 am

        Flav, YOU ARE TOO MODEST. Since I started my blog, I have visited literally hundreds of blogs, trying to gain insight, tips, etc., to generating views and followers to my blog . . . To date, other than corporations and businesses that have WordPress blogs, you BLOW EVERYONE OUT OF THE WATER WITH REGARD TO PAGE VIEWS.

        If you wont blow your horn, us Flappers will handle the job. :-)

      • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 11:58 am

        The number of views, etc. is cool, as I think primarily, it shows that Craig has provided an avenue where Giants fans EVERYWHERE (Pawlie, Paul in Asia, Edd, Blade, etc…)…fans from all over the globe can meet to discuss one of our most passionate topics…GIANT BASEBALL.

        So while the numbers are cool, I am just really happy that this forum exists. I have said it before, and I am sure I will say it again…THANK YOU FLAVOR! This place is like a second extended family…it is wonderful to have so many knowledgeable Giants fans with whom to converse.

        Is it time for pitchers and catchers to report, yet?! ;-)

  15. twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 11:35 am

    After more research it appears that the Giants, Niners, and Warriors did it in 1971- actually I’d posted that before but I said 1970 this moring because I was distracted by porn ;-)

  16. Alleykat said, on January 15, 2013 at 11:37 am

    ?….Poll, If Colin Kaepernick takes us all the way to a SB victory,will he supplant Buster Posey on top of the SF Bay Area.Pedestal?

    • blade3colorado said, on January 15, 2013 at 11:40 am

      Actually, I had Hugh Hefner’s new ho on top of my pole . . . Oh wait! Wrong type of pole.

      • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 11:59 am

        LMAO…

      • Bozo said, on January 15, 2013 at 2:22 pm

        David Letterman was talking about a new ignition system for cars, where you don’t have to touch anything to get it started. He thought the new Mrs. Hef might be interested in that for getting something else started.

    • twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 11:53 am

      Kat:No.

    • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 12:00 pm

      Kat – Not in my book. I love the NFL and the Niners…but the Giants always have been, and always will be first in my heart.

      • Irish Kevin said, on January 15, 2013 at 12:02 pm

        You did not revere Joe Montana the way you do Buster?? say it ain’t so!!

      • blade3colorado said, on January 15, 2013 at 1:12 pm

        Agree with Kevin and Chuck. Joe Cool became “the man” in San Francisco and I don’t see anyone replacing him anytime soon. As much as I like Mays, I like Montana more (and that’s saying something . . . weird dichotomy because I like baseball more than football . . . except when it comes to Joe).

      • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 1:19 pm

        Kev – the question was “If Colin Kaepernick takes us all the way to a SB victory, will he supplant Buster Posey on top of the SF Bay Area Pedestal?” The question had NOTHING to do with Montana.

        I did revere Joe the way I have Buster and the past couple of years of Giant teams. But again, my passion in sports is baseball…specifically Giant baseball. I do love the Niners, but if I “had to” pick one…it would be the Giants.

      • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 1:22 pm

        Joe will always be my favorite all-time bay area sports figure. But from a team perspective…the Giants get the nod over the Niners. Like Blade…my love of baseball is stronger than that for football, but “Joe Cool” will always be number one as a player.

    • Irish Kevin said, on January 15, 2013 at 12:01 pm

      actually, he will probably join him there!

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on January 15, 2013 at 12:40 pm

      I was thinking about this same question this morning and despite my preference for baseball and the Giants I would say yes. Not in my mind but the larger bay area is what I think you mean.

  17. unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    I think Joe is #1 in bay area sports fans hearts (sure it’s subjective, but really). Mainly because that was the 1st major sports champiopship for the bay area. Plus he won 4 Super Bowls. The Dubs don’t really count as b-ball wasn’t really that big a deal in the 70s. At least not in the bay area. It was for me, but really, the Ice Capades bumped the Dubs back to the Cow Palace in ’75? please.

  18. unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    The very very very cool thing is Kappy and Posey are both young bucks and they have long exciting careers ahead of them in the Bay Area.

    Like Mike said, it wasn’t that long ago that the bay area sports landscape was like the dark side of the moon. A sea of darkness bereft of any hope amid the debacle of Dr John York and the Donohue/Teflon Mike Nolan/Aluminum Mike Singletary front office nightmares, and the crushingly banal home run chase of Barry Bonds at the cost of anything else on the Giants.

    Both teams are now energized with young talent, and both should be at or near the top for the foreseeable future.

    And, yes Flav. Thanks for keeping this up and putting up with all our shenanigans . . .

    • twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 1:05 pm

      It’s not dismissing what Kap has achieved to acknowlege that he is not the QB who was at the helm when the darkness was vanquished and once again we started livin’ on Bright Side of the Road…it’s his to finish up.

      • unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 1:17 pm

        Alex had an awful time here. He tried to do right and honor the original deal, renegotiate, and re-up when there were few options. There seemed to be some sort of gravitational vortex keeping Alex and the Niners together. He fought through talenless teams, injuries, lousy coaches, horrendous play calling, on and on til now.

        In the end, he’s going to have to make his bones somewhere else. 2010 was a surprising year for the team and for Alex. All should be thankful and part ways amicably come next March. The future is now.

      • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 1:34 pm

        I am very appreciative of what Alex brought to the table. Through all the bullshit (rotating door of o-coordinators EVERY year), and dumb-ass head coaches (Nolan, Singletary, etc.), he was always the team guy. Last year while all the shenanigans were getting ironed-out, he volunteered for and ran small player mini-camps and started putting Harbaugh’s playbook out there. And then he had a remarkable year under Harbaugh. But agree with Chuck, the future is now, and I do hope they part ways amicably.

      • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 1:35 pm

        Love me some Van Morrison…

      • twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 2:00 pm

        I didn’t say anything different than you guys did. Alex was the QB who brought the team back from the dark ages. Being able to do that after suffering through the dumbfucks who preceded Jimbo is remarkable in itself. As I said in an earlier post, parting ways is a Godsend for Smith. Kap is an exciting young QB and he’s the now. Whether he’s the future remains to be seen. He has all the talent in the world, also he has what is already emerging as an extremely aggressive persona in both the good and bad senses. If he doesn’t lose the bad that’s emerging we can start talking about the Tolzein Era. As tough as he is phsyically, no QB is going to last long taunting the defense.

      • twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 2:11 pm

        Not just the play that drew the flag, his whole celebration act is over the top for a QB who wants to be tying his own shoes when he’s 30 years old.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on January 15, 2013 at 2:16 pm

        What amazes me with CK is the pure athleticism. I remember seeing him at UNR and he was making defenses look like pop warner kids. I thought he might be slown down a bit in the NFL with everyone being bigger, stronger, faster but he still looks like a man among boys athletically. That suprised me.

        Twin, agree with you on the taunting and celebration act. He was doing the same thing at UNR but I didn’t pay much attention to it then.

  19. unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    Celebration act, Twin? He’s dowright stodgy compared to 3/4ths of the league. Or have you missed Ray Lewis’ Elaine dance every game he plays in? Or Richard Sherman’s incessant yapping? In fact the taunting call was ludicrous when you take into account the fact that every incomplete pass by Kappy was met with barking (and a head butt) and jawing from the DBs to evey WR in the area code. Kappy dropped the ball, and did . . . . what? Nothing.

    • unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 3:07 pm

      How about Rodgers discount double check? Or Cam Newton’s Superman thing? Or the other thousand-odd celebrations? Should they all be headhunted?

      • unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 3:09 pm

        Or fucking Tebowing for that matter?

      • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:21 pm

        Just because some of these clowns act up doesn’t mean it is cool. I would prefer to see Kaep tone it down. Again…let his play do the talking.

    • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:20 pm

      Well, he didn’t just “drop the ball.” He spun it into the ground (like spinning a top) and barked something. I agree with Michael and a few others…he needs to heed his coach and play with a “humble heart.” I would like to see him tone it down a bit…let your play do your talking. Jim Brown was the classic example…after scoring a TD he would simply hand the ball to the ref.

  20. blade3colorado said, on January 15, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Dirt and Twin will appreciate this . . . While I was in C and S America, I had a great Canon camera (Elph 1400SD) that fit in my pocket and was great for taking everywhere. However, my frickin’ Samsung tablet has a proprietary 30 pin connection, i.e., you’re fucked if you have a “normal” USB connection like the Canon does. Consequently, I would take my 7″ tablet – which is portable too for a laptop or 10 ” tablet – but frankly looks ridiculous when you are taking pictures with it. You almost look like you are using a small book to take pictures/video. Frequently, I took 2 pictures of the same thing because the Canon takes better resolution pictures.

    Fast forward last week, I ordered the USB adapter and although I am a bit pissed about paying $19 dollars for the SOB (Apple is another one that squeezes every last cent out of their products), I just got it today and it works perfect . . . Canon pictures download fast and correctly to the tablet. In any event, I wont be carrying the tablet with me on day trips too much, except for enjoying coffee that has WIFI. :-)

  21. Flavor said, on January 15, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    I thought the penalty on Kap was justified but I also didn’t think it was THAT egregious of a taunt. Guys still do sack celebrations but as long as it’s not directed toward the QB that’s ok? The whole was over-celebrations are handled in the NFL is fucking stupid, IMHO

    • pawliekokonuts said, on January 15, 2013 at 4:02 pm

      I agree, but can he be penalized for too many arm tattoos?

  22. unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    Well, that’s the problem. Some of these TD acts were getting a bit crazy, but since NFL Films and ESPN makes sure to include these in their highlight packages, and TV commercials glamorize them, then what’s the point of calling a penalty? ESPN dedicates whole shows to TD celebrations, and they had a series of commercials on the ‘correct’ way to do them. Was it the NE game where the refs took at least 6 minutes to decide whether there was an ‘excessive celebration’ on their last TD? Really? Does it matter that much? Jerry Glanville was right. it’s the No Fun League.

    Goldson got nailed for taunting a few weeks back after smacking Marshawn Lynch. Lynch first woofed at Goldson after running him over a few player earlier. I mean, really. These guys are hitting each other as hard as they can. A taunt draws a penalty? Richard Sherman spends his whole game dogging, yapping, and being a huge annoyance to every guy on the other team. That’s OK, but retaliating isn’t?

    • Flavor said, on January 15, 2013 at 3:54 pm

      Also, 2 gms ago some dude walked right up to Akers and was clearly taunting him (akers went after him)but just because it was words and not a physical action or “dance” or whatever he draws no penalty

  23. pawliekokonuts said, on January 15, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    No doubt in my mind whatsoever that Twin and several others have more comments than I do, over the course of 2012, not the, um, size, matters. Have always liked that Van Morrison song cited above. BULLETIN: Deo volente, translated as “if Allah graciously wills it,” Macdog and I will meet Saturday at the WS trophies viewing at Finnerty’s in NYC. That should be like some kind of fan orgy for me.

    • unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 4:07 pm

      Awesome.

    • twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 5:05 pm

      I’m hardly bragging to have more. I know yours are better, Pawlie, and the other top 5. Or 10. As I said, I have a lot of time on my hands.

    • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:25 pm

      That’s great!

  24. unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Yeah, either let the ticky tacky shit go or call all of it. Goldson’s deal was the same as the guy yapping at Akers. Calling all of it would be ludicrous, so just get over the fact that these games are played by guys who are amped beyond recognition. Give ‘em a warning and tell ‘em one more will be flagged.

  25. twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    Spiking the football the football at a prone defender is not a minor deal and is far different from celebrating success. He didn’t “drop it”, he spiked it with an excellent spinning flourish- I give it an 8.9 In any case, jawing has always been expected . And book this- Kap has already put himself on the Most Wanted list.T-Blowing? It put him on the most hated list immediately.And the non-thumpers hate his ass.
    Here’s the pic Chucked wanted to post. Without getting into whether it’s over the top, he looks like a fucking idiot.
    kap

    • unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 5:12 pm

      Whatever, Mike. Tebow may never set foot on a football field again. As a player that is. Msybe he’ll be a nice special teams coach.

      Kappy’s earning respect with every game he wins. Maybe Alex can come up with the ‘pulling splinters out of my ass’ move next year.

      • unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 5:13 pm

        And before you blow a gasket, it’s a joke.

      • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:28 pm

        Like I said earlier…just give the fucking ball to the ref. I don’t like the “Kaepernicking” at all. And if he keeps up with the shenanigans we saw against the Pack, he won’t be winning the respect of anyone outside of his team, and even that might be questioned. I have NEVER liked the celebration BS. No class….

    • unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 5:14 pm

      Well, did he spin it or spike it? Those are 2 distinctly different moves, Twin.

    • unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 5:42 pm

      But the discount double check is fine? Or the Tebow?

      Treading that line, Mike.

      • twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 6:12 pm

        They are not distinctly different moves-the intent is the same and he executed it with disdainful gusto. He was not celebrating success, he was taunting and throwing, tossing, spiking, forcefully spinning- call it any damn “move:you like.. he towered over a prone defender and whatevered the ball over the guy. What he did is not remotely the same as even his, T-Blow’s, and Aaron’s celebrations. That’s kinda why he got a much deserved taunting penalty, not the utterly stupid penalty for joyous celebration. See, I’m not “blowing a gasket”, I never do. You have received a measured response to your query and I even threw in the pic you couldn’t post. You’re welcome and I still consider you a fine man, great dancer, football blog Rock Star…

  26. Flavor said, on January 15, 2013 at 6:07 pm

    He didn’t spike the ball, he spun it. It was a ticky-tack taunt but it WAS a taunt because it was right near the defender, clearly directed at him. I wasn’t surprised he got penalized and it was stupid of him to hurt the team that way. If he keeps doing stupid shit, I’ll have an issue with it. But he’s young, let’s see if he learns from the penalty.
    And the bicep kissing shit should be reserved for body builders down at the beach in Santa Monica. It’s a gay look and he should ditch that, fast…..

    • salty said, on January 15, 2013 at 6:24 pm

      I chalk it up to youthful exuberance. It was his first playoff game and close until the 4th. Packers were also talking a lot of trash trying to intimidate him. Think he’ll dial the spin move back.

    • twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 6:38 pm

      He “spunkered” it then. And the troubling part is not one idtiotic indiscretion but a growing unpleasant attitude that has even been demonstrated towards a doting a press corps. He’s not the same kid as even when took over the job.Success does not become him. Chuck mocks the idea about retribution- but we all know it’s a violent game played by pumped up athletes. Greg Williams made some comments about Gore before the playoff game last year that were really just dumb metaphors for “hit ‘em hard” but he called for taking out Crabtree’s ACL -it was no joke. Teams will go after a guy just because he’s good, a kid with 8 whole games as a starter is asking for it with the attitude Kaepernick is displaying.

      • Flavor said, on January 15, 2013 at 6:46 pm

        Well they gotta catch him first if they wanna go after him.
        And you’re totally blowing that out of preportion, he’s not getting targeted for a single unsportsmanlike penalty and some gay-ass bicep smooches.
        I think success has become him quite well. He handles the press perfectly, never saying anything to them that could come back to bite him in the ass. And he continues to succeed and get better as the stage gets bigger.
        That’s almost the definition of “success becoming” him

    • chipower9 said, on January 15, 2013 at 10:29 pm

      Big or small…it WAS a taunt. It’s fucking classless…just stop…

  27. Bozo said, on January 15, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    Hold on a sec, I thought when Kaep spiked/spun the ball it was after two guys took him down and he got up before them, no? It also looked to me like he was jawing back at them but I haven’t looked around for a replay, so I could be wrong on it.
    Also, I always thought if you showed someone up AND backed it up the only one targeting you was the guy you showed up.

  28. Flavor said, on January 15, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    Kap doesn’t talk to the media and if that’s got some people irked, so be it. Fuck it, I’m all for him blowing off the media, if you’ve got something to say tweet it out. Social media has completely taken over mainstream media in terms of what I’m interested in hearing these guys say anyway.
    And these days a pro athlete almost never says anything in a set up main stream interview that I find interesting. They’re all softball questions with boring answers. Harbaugh’s answers are the best. He’s constantly fucking with the scribes and I love it.
    And watching David Shaw blow off the ESPN interview after the rose bowl, only to get ushered back and forced to answer her dumb ass questions was hilarious. She asked him nothing he answered with nothing.
    We all could have saved some time by just watching him run off from her and then turn attention to something else……..

    • twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 9:36 pm

      Well, social media has definitely overtaken the mainstream media in terms of popularity. Much of that is due to the hordes of children who vote 250 times for their American Idol favorite, the business infiltration using it for viral marketing, certainly not my source for reliable news or information. But we’re different generations with different ways of looking at things. I’m not old fashioned about much at all but I don’t admire Harbaugh for “fucking with the scribes”- because I don’t think he’s fucking with them as much as demonstrating his terrible social skills. I couldn’t care less about whether he’s forthcoming or skillful with media, he’s not forthcoming, honest, or gracious to anyone he doesn’t think he has to kiss up to. Tony LaRussa gushed about Jimbo as a coach and his media skills- saying that Jim doesn’t give a rat’s ass about how his personality is viewed- fair enough, go for i…., then Laussa added ” He’s there for his players to say, ‘I trust that guy and he’s there for us.’ ”
      Oops…

  29. Bozo said, on January 15, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    “Music meets baseball w/ hall of fame results.”

    Flan and Chuck Brodsky at the Freight and Salvage (in Berkeley). Wed. 1/23.

    For those that would still go to that club and want to see Tim sing/play.

    • xoot said, on January 15, 2013 at 9:06 pm

      Nice place for people who don’t like to drink while they listen to good music.

      • James said, on January 16, 2013 at 8:28 am

        You can buy beer and wine there now.

  30. twinfan1 said, on January 15, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    Why is Kap being trash talked suddenly a problem? Trashing talking is “normal” behavior during games. Greg Williams offered money to hurt Smith and they trash talked all game. Smith got even with his performance-as did Kap- but Alex skipped the act of glowering above a prone opponent and whatevering the ball at his feet. I don’t think I’m blowing anything out of proportion at all, I might be more critical of Kap than some because of the two-faced sleazy way Harbaugh made his switcheroo but it’s not unfair criticism. The Packers defense has been destroyed in the playoffs routinely and Capers gave Kap the edge, went man on the receivers and presumably thought Rodgers would lead his offense to 60 points-no prob.
    As far as his attitude towards the press- I don’t make things up. He may be decent enough in victory, he was a surly prick when Seattle thrashed us..
    http://tinyurl.com/a6jrlyv

    So while I am in awe as anyone of his talent, I’m properly postponing his HOF enshrinement for awhile. What’s bizarre is writers like Sando even contradict themselves as they grovel at Kap’s feet. Who actually moved the offense better? Smith-no contest. He led longer drives,slightly more yards per drive, more points per drive,better TD pct.per drive, more FG pct. per drive, better red zone performance, better goal to go performance, and lesser 3 and out pct. In short-the offense performed better, just not flashier under Smith.

    • Flavor said, on January 15, 2013 at 8:28 pm

      Harbaugh’s move has now been categorically heralded as a brilliant move. Of course, that’s using hindsight. Kap’s on the cover of SI this week. And we all know how that goes.
      It took a nutsack the size of Kansas to replace Smith with Kap at the time he did so. And it’s now clear that JH is much smarter than the dumbfuck fan who complained and whined about the switch. And I did some whining about it at the time so I’m talking about me, obviously.
      JH has and always will be about the team and whatever moves he has to make to create a better team. Bill Walsh operated the exact same way.

  31. dirtnrocksnomo said, on January 15, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    I’d think you want cockiness even arrogance at the QB position. Smith performed well and is a nice guy and that just set him up for the deep dicking from Harbaugh. I doubt CK would have taken the benching without a peep.

  32. unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    Jeezus, Mike. The drama. You’d think Kaepernick pulled a gun and shot someone..

    He rolls the dice a la Aubrey Huff,. He didn’t spike it., Just saw the replay. Ticky tack penalty.

    • twinfan1 said, on January 16, 2013 at 12:31 am

      I’ve seen the replay several times. It was a no brainer taunting call. BTW, anybody ever check out Jimbo on the sidelines? All coaches obviously don’t want calls going against them but the Niners have never commited a penalty. He goes postal a dozen times a game-not annoyed, not pissed: postal. What you think I’m doing when I’m really having a spot of tea, petting Zeke, dowloading an Audible book for Merna, sending my sister an E-Mail… in other words what I’m doing now. Some call it multi-tasking, I call it killing time. Nitey Nite.

  33. unca_chuck said, on January 15, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    You are biased in the extreme, Twin. You and NoFear are opposite sides of the same coin.

    Smith moved the offense better. no contest? Right. Kappy has more passing yards in less starts and has 4x yards on the ground than Smith. He gets sacked less, and has thrown fewer ints % wise. His TD passing % is lower than Smoith’s but he more than makes up for that with his rushing TDs. Fuck the numbers. right?

    Add in the playoff game, (9 Smith to 8 Kappy starts) and the disparity gets larger. Kappy’s completion % is lower, but passing yards are +400 for Kappy, yards on the ground are 6x for Kappy. An extra 550 yards is hardly equal.

  34. twinfan1 said, on January 16, 2013 at 12:17 am

    You’re using numbers that don’t show how the OFFENSE performed as a whole with Smith vs.Kap-what I showed is not arguable- “He led longer drives,slightly more yards per drive, more points per drive,better TD pct.per drive, more FG pct. per drive, better red zone performance, better goal to go performance, and lesser 3 and out pct. In short-the offense performed better, just not flashier under Smith.” Those numbers include everybody who runs and passes – they aren’t broken down by individual passing vs,running- theyshow how the offense performed under each guy-not their individual numbers. The playoff game is not relevant- it would have been a different game with Smith is all- remember that the mantra became “it’s a team game” only when Alex was 19-5. Suddenly it’s all about Kap. Fact is, in the regular season games, the only ones Smith was given the chance to participate in, he moved the offense bettter than Kap did.

    • unca_chuck said, on January 16, 2013 at 9:34 am

      In Kappy’s 8 starts, he’s is responsible for 19 TDs (12 passes, 7 runs) and 16 FGs = 162 points

      Smith? 13 passing TDs, 0 TD runs, and 14 FGs in his 9 games = 120 points

      • twinfan1 said, on January 16, 2013 at 9:47 am

        Team game, Chuck. Remember? The offense was better under Smith. Here’s how it works for you and the Spitter and Friends( That has the ring of a cool TV series): when the team had been 20-6 with Smith- it was a team game. Under Kap it reverted back to the QB’s team.

  35. Nipper said, on January 16, 2013 at 2:30 am

    Wake up Flappers! I’m hungry so I’m having breakfast early. It’s cold but what the heck. ST is around the corner and I feel better just thinking of spring.


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