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Wild Card Picks Are In

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 1, 2013

I’m only human, if I imputed any of this incorrectly just re-send your email and I’ll change it. Good luck to all!

Salty: Pirates and Tampa

Rooster: Pirates and Cleveland

AllyKat: Reds and Tampa Bay

Denny: Reds and Tampa Bay

ChiPower: Pirates and Cleveland

Snarkk: Pirates and Cleveland

SanDawg: Pirates and Cleveland

Unca Chuck: Pirates and Tampa Bay

Pawlie: Pirates and tampa Bay

Blade: Reds and Cleveland

MacDog: Pirates and Cleveland

Wilcoe Joe: Pirates and Tampa Bay

BoxHead: Reds and Cleveland

Sidewinder: Pirates and Cleveland

Manny: Pirates and Tampa Bay

Bird Dog: Pirates and Cleveland

Irish Kevin: Pirates and Cleveland

WesFromRoseville: Pirates and Cleveland

SportsDude: Pirates and Tampa Bay

Flavor: Reds and Tampa Bay

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  1. Flavor said, on October 1, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    When a gold glover like Phillips blows a routine play like that, you know it’s not your night. The baseball Gods have taken over

    • Rooster said, on October 1, 2013 at 6:48 pm

      Reds not looking at all like the team I watched sweep the Dodgers in early September.

      • Flavor said, on October 1, 2013 at 6:52 pm

        I hope you also feel like the Dodgers didn’t look like the same team that got swept by the Reds when they got bent over by the shitty Rockies in the last 2 games of the season. They were meek and hapless against them. 1 run in 2 games.

  2. WilcoJoe said, on October 1, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    Flav, I don’t think I sent you my AL pick yet, but yeah, TB will do.

    • Flavor said, on October 1, 2013 at 6:49 pm

      If you want Cle let me know. I was uploading the picks quickly after I got hm from work

      • Alleykat said, on October 1, 2013 at 6:54 pm

        Can i change mine to Pittsburgh as well? :-) just kidding,but not really.

      • WilcoJoe said, on October 1, 2013 at 7:13 pm

        No, let’s go with TB.

      • Flavor said, on October 1, 2013 at 7:32 pm

        No prob Joe, will change it later tonight (on my ph now)

      • Flavor said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:10 pm

        And now I see you meant to keep it TB. Go Rays

  3. twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    capon- dodgers got a tough draw. very evenly matched pitching staffs, wih two dominant closers. your ace is your advantage. as with verlander in the ws against us, if the braves beat kershaw once they’ll win the series. imo the bums can’t win the series unless they win 2 games with kershaw. he has a strange record against them- 4 career games, 2.45 era, no wins, no losses.

    • Rooster said, on October 1, 2013 at 7:54 pm

      Well – even if the Braves take the 1st game, I could see Greinke taking the 2nd, Ryu winning the 3rd (In LA – he’s been better @ home than on the road), and Kershaw bouncing back to win game 4 – but yeah the ATL a good team, looking forward to it.

  4. Flavor said, on October 1, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    I had thought the Reds would have come out like tits on fire for this game after last year’s playoff debacle. I guess 162 reg season games in between dulled that fire.
    Dusty is an alarmingly bad manager in the playoffs. I’m not talking about his decisions tonight, these guys are just sleep walking through the game– but maybe that’s part of what I’m talking about.
    Still, considering his playoff ultimate failures, he’s putting together a pretty bad playoff manager resume.

  5. Flavor said, on October 1, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    One of Bud’s great moves was this 1 game playoff. START the playoffs with a game 7? Brilliant. And as it always should have stayed, division winners secure a clear advantage because of the wild card games

    • twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:02 pm

      as you know, we disagree on the one game wc playoff. but not enough for me to argue it. as long as my picks win, i’m ok with it ;-)
      cleveland is my pick tomorrow. two kids on the hill. salazar can be overpowering- has hit 100 mph. cobb a ground ball specialist- best in baseball percentage- 72 plus percentage. very even offensively. ditto relievers.
      going with home team.

  6. Rooster said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    Ryan Ludwick always reminds me of Ferris Bueller’s best friend in “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off” – don’t know the actors name but, Ludwick looks just like him.

    • Flavor said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:12 pm

      I don’t know his name either but he was also on Spin City.

    • twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:24 pm

      cameron…played by alan ruck

      ruck

      • Flavor said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:30 pm

        aging well, looks like the same guy from FBDO

      • Rooster said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:34 pm

        Yep – that’s the dude alright – – Ryan Ludwick!

  7. Bozo said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    Just a reminder, the Giants had a few highlights this year. Good luck to all in the contest and get em next year Giants.

    http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=31036169&partnerId=as_sf_20131002_12621134

    • Winder said, on October 1, 2013 at 10:08 pm

      Thanks

  8. Rooster said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    I’ll be rooting for the Pirates to take out St. Loo, can’t say I will pick them to win the series, but I would like to see them take out the Cards.

  9. Flavor said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    One main way that inexperienced teams like the Pirates and the Indians benefit from winning a wild card game–it’s like cramming for a final in college–they go from zero post season experience to banking a Game 7 to their resume before they even have to play a Game 1 against the big, bad division winners. They (Pitt and maybe Cle) gain a huge amount of tense playoff experience with WC wins…..

  10. willedav said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    Did I see those numbers right for Choo vs. LHP? .215 OB for a lead off guy? .265 slugging with zero HRs?
    Those are freakin Crawford numbers.
    I know I’m being redundant, but why in ell would a guy who can’t hit lefties in his own bandbox yard come to ATT?

    • Flavor said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:56 pm

      excellent point. If it’s *good enough* for Crawford it should be *good enough* for Choo. Both should sit vs lefties.

    • twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 9:01 pm

      as i said below, he was still .347 obp against lhers.

      • twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 9:03 pm

        crawford had a .261 obp against the lhers.

  11. willedav said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    I always kinda dug the Tribe–used to see them a lot on TV during ST games with Giants in Arizona going way back.
    When my friends kids were little and collecting baseball cards, I distinctly remember one I admired of Julio Franco (one of my heroes)in road blues as a 2b, bent over in the throwing motion with the blue Tribe hat complete with grinning indian.
    They bought me a Tribe shirt I wore out during my softball days–white with not quite full length long blue sleeves and the grinning Indian in red over the heart. After a game when I got 3 opposite field dink hits in a losing effort, one of the guys on opposing team as we’re shaking hands said, “Nice hittin Cleveland.”

  12. twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    well, with pence signed, he isn’t coming. he’s been up and down against lhers- a lot of guys are like that. he has a .340 lifetime obp against lhers. and he wouldn’t be expected to hit hr’s here. just get on base- which he does better than any lead off hitter we’ve had a loooonnnnng time. .413 in the one hole career. .423 this year.
    even at .215 ba he had a .347 obp against the lefties.

  13. twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    but hell with *those* stats- if mijares is non-tendered and petit doesn’t make the team next year, we lose two 40dd divas..

    • Alleykat said, on October 1, 2013 at 9:30 pm

      Can the Flap really afford to lose 2, 40 DD women off our roster?
      Hell know!,cut the players,but keep their wives around!!!

  14. twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    night all.

  15. snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    Good for the Pirates. Their fans were craving a victory, and got one. I dunno why Dusty kept Cueto in even as long as he did. Cueto looked like he didn’t have it almost from the get go, he was pitching up all the time, hell, you’ve got a bunch of pitchers ready to go in to pitch in a do or die game, why not use ‘em? Bochy probably would have pulled him after the two homers and the dropped ball on the mound. Plus, Cincy position guys played like they were coming off a bender. That 4th run on the double to left — looked to me like Ludwick out there quit on it, it was only 1/2 way up the wall, he could have caught it. Weird…

    • blade3colorado said, on October 2, 2013 at 6:44 am

      I said the same thing in the previous thread. Dusty manages by “feel” and has no use for saber stats, etc. As I said in the previous thread, Cueto should have been pulled after the 2nd home run. Idiot.

  16. snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    Maybe I’m a little tight on this, but isn’t it kind of premature to celebrate with champagne when you win the WC play in game? And, didn’t the Rays champagne it up yesterday when they won the play in to the play in? I’m down with celebrating, but seems like beer should be the max type of celebration level before you even get to the Division playoff…

    • blade3colorado said, on October 2, 2013 at 6:47 am

      You frickin’ “mossback.”

      Just kidding, as I agree with your point . . . I just wanted to turn the tables and use that cool word you used in the previous thread (by the by, does “Silver Back” as in old male gorilla work? . . . Just wondering).
      :-)

  17. snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    2014 Draft Order. Giants moved down to 14th, thanks to their late spurt of success. They missed ending up in the bottom 10, so they’ll have to give up their first round pick if they sign a qualifying Free Agent from some other team…

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/as-regular-season-ends-draft-order-takes-shape?ymd=20131001&content_id=62265338&vkey=news_mlb

  18. snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    Oracle, just read your earlier prediction on tonite’s tilt. You had that wired exactly. Cueto out before the 5th, and 6-2 Bucs. The vapors at Delphi must be strong right now. Congrats. You better go play the MegaMillions…

  19. Macdog said, on October 1, 2013 at 10:50 pm

    Quickie breakdown after Game 1: 15 of 20 picked the Bucs. Of the 15, 10 picked Pirates-Tribe, 5 picked Pirates-Rays.

  20. chipower9 said, on October 1, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    I can’t believe how many of you jackasses stole my picks! WTF… ;-)

    Yeah Bucs! Would love to see Pittsburgh go all the way. Not saying they’re my pick throughout, but would love to see them do it.

    In case you haven’t seen it…this is a really nice recap of the season…

    http://tinyurl.com/o5mztou

    • blade3colorado said, on October 2, 2013 at 6:48 am

      I wish all you dick heads would have “stolen” my Reds pick. Sheesh, I might still have a chance to win that PC. :-(

  21. Flavor said, on October 2, 2013 at 5:41 am

    I’m going to leave this thread up today, tomorrow I’ll put up the standings after today’s WC game. Are you 2-0? 1-1? 0-2? We’ll know after the Indians game!And again, if I fucked up and gave you the wrong team, re-send your original email to me.

  22. PawlieKokonuts said, on October 2, 2013 at 6:37 am

    I know I’m not being a good poker player and tipping my hand, but… WAIT. STOP, Pawlie. Okay. I’m getting better. Must be the influence of Yankee Stadium Game Mystery Woman.

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on October 2, 2013 at 7:51 am

      I will say this much: I believe the Giants proved twice that being hot at the right time is a critical factor to postseason success. The Pirates were hot, the Reds cold. Nuff said, girls.

  23. Nipper said, on October 2, 2013 at 8:29 am

    One game wild card is bullshit.

  24. unca_chuck said, on October 2, 2013 at 9:10 am

    Wow, Zume. Didn’t know the depressing deal around Badfinger. I remember them being somehow tied to a Beatles reunion in the mid 70s, but that’s about it. Up there with Tommy Bolin in good things gone very wrong.

    1-0. Woo hoo . . .

    • James said, on October 2, 2013 at 9:45 am

      Tommy Bolin . . . I never sold my copy of “Teaser,” which is kind of amazing because so few others like him survived the great punk rock purge of my record collection.

      • unca_chuck said, on October 2, 2013 at 11:26 am

        Yeah. Great album. Still have the vinyl version myself. Along with Private Eyes.

  25. Alleykat said, on October 2, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Tommy Bolin…No relation to Giants Pitcher Bob Bolin from the 60’s..Just thought you girls needed to know..:-)

  26. twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 10:30 am

    snarkk, you’re right, i did nail last night’s game. so i’m declaring myself the winner of the contest. like many of us, i do my best thinking while sitting on mr. crapper’s invention ( could it be true that it was an invention born of neccessity, when mrs, crapper threatened him with eviction for using the kitchen sink?) .. but i digress- it was while i was debating whether merna would go for skyler moving in with us ( skyler was banging on the door) that i noticed that we needed another computer for the bathroom…
    well, on skyler- the answer was a rather adamant no- not unless she has a barrel of cash at the door with her- and no kids. on the second bathroom pc- that selfish selfish woman already resents having to take sponge baths in the mud room to keep the monitor from misting up and making my porn difficult to watch. she’s already nixed a touch screen cuz she thinks i’ll use it as a nipple button. geez.
    so-thanks to mickey’s mistress, i don’t get the second pc for mr. johnson’s room.. one of you guys will get it after all…

  27. twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 10:44 am

    as to the final ‘breaking bad’ episode, i was hoping walter would wake up with skyler, realize it was all a dream and turn on the tube to the final ‘newhart’ episode of bob waking up with suzanne pleshette and realizing that…
    well, ‘it’s complicated’….spoiler alert- george utley guns down larry, darryl, and darryl in the long lost ‘director’s cut’ of ‘newhart’…

  28. blade3colorado said, on October 2, 2013 at 10:46 am

    I finally watched a Breaking Bad episode (Pilot). I can predict where this is going already. :-)

    • snarkk said, on October 2, 2013 at 11:24 am

      No you can’t. ;)
      And, the ride, not the destination, is the attraction. The early series actually have sprinkled in some of the best episodes of all, IMO…

    • twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 11:36 am

      where’s it going ?

      • snarkk said, on October 2, 2013 at 11:48 am

        I can’t say, remember? ;)
        I will say I’ve looked back at some of the earlier episodes again. After seeing the whole thing, it’s amazing how they tied a lot of things together and referenced later some earlier things that when you first saw them, didn’t register as having much meaning. These writers must have had a computer database to keep the continuity so smooth and the plot lines so relational. I’ve never been so smitten with a TV show. Impeccable acting helped, for sure…

      • twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 12:04 pm

        i was asking steve.

      • blade3colorado said, on October 2, 2013 at 12:06 pm

        For starters, the show has been on 5 seasons, right? Logic says minimally, he makes a miraculous comeback from Lung Cancer (hey, it’s TV). Second, his wife will eventually discover what he is up to and probably leave him. No idea what season this happens, but eventually they are estranged. Regarding his new found . . . umm, occupation. Obviously, he becomes a Drug Kingpin, where everyone is trying to hone in on his state of the art designer meth lab (Shit, I should have paid attention in chemistry), including the Mexican mafia and other nefarious gang lords.

        What else? Oh yeah, dollars to donuts – he kills a lot of people and justifies it in his mind as only a drug dealer can . . . Last, but not least – his imbecilic racist brother in law (the cop) eventually begins to put AB and C together – albeit, he is such an idiot – that it takes him many seasons to accomplish this.

        More, but I think you get my drift . . . I should have been a Hollywood writer. :-)

      • snarkk said, on October 2, 2013 at 12:30 pm

        blade, you’ll have to follow it and the characters to see how right or wrong you are. Contrary to most TV shows which are crapola, this one is extremely well done. For me and just about all the BB fans, it’s like a good book that you can’t put down chapter after chapter…

      • twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 12:41 pm

        blade, you probably get a prize for nailing a few of the several dozen key developments in the series. i’m serious- good job. spoiler alert- his brother in law is the best man in the series, kinda not shady, like morality wise ;-)

  29. Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2013 at 11:27 am

    I reference to Pawlie’s comments on teams getting hot at the right time…the Tribe closed the season with 10 Ws.

    And in regards to that YankMee Stadium Mystery Woman…was SHE hot???

    • snarkk said, on October 2, 2013 at 11:53 am

      Yeah, hotness helps going into the post-season. That’s why I’m on the fence about Pittsburgh/Cards. Bucs came in fairly hot, Cards OK. Pirates should have some momentum from last night. Bucs won season series 10-9, a lot of close games. On paper it seems Cards should be favored; stronger hitting, home field. Pirates are 3-6 at Busch, Cards are 3-7 at PNC. Bucs, though, remind somewhat of the 2010 Giants. Pitching is strong. This is a tough call…

  30. Alleykat said, on October 2, 2013 at 11:57 am

    Should of known not to go with the Reds.and especially Idiot Mr.Hunches Baker!!
    Especially after 93, when his Toothpick pointed toward Salomon Torres the last game of the season against the dogpile costing us a chance to play Atlanta in a 1game division.elimination.game.
    Hope.you choke on your toothpicks dipshit!!

    • blade3colorado said, on October 2, 2013 at 12:36 pm

      I am kicking myself too AK. I had misgivings before the game (which I posted here) and should have gone with my intuition.

    • Irish Kevin said, on October 2, 2013 at 12:37 pm

      Alley, tells us again how you feel about “Idiot Mr. Hunches Baker”, I don’t think your “Dipshit” comment came across strong enough.

  31. blade3colorado said, on October 2, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    Breaking Bad – Yeah, the acting is pretty good and overall, I liked the show. Now that I have the link, I will probably watch an episode every day. Also, I know what the title means now (based upon the pilot).

  32. zumiee said, on October 2, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    “great punk rock purge of my record collection.”

    I know what you mean, James. I bought my first punk/new wave album, The Clash’s “London Calling” the same day I bought Styx’s “Paradise Theater.” I listened to the Clash album first, then listened to the Styx album. The Clash album made the Styx album sound like the Partridge Family.
    But I pretty much hung on to all the ’60s stuff in my collection, until I eventually got rid of all my vinyl albums anyway. I moved a lot in the 1980s, and boxes of vinyl albums are heavy, and then my record player broke down, and CDs were coming out…..
    Yeah, I wish there was a way I could have saved some vinyl, but oh well.

    • snarkk said, on October 2, 2013 at 12:59 pm

      Between Mrs. Snarkk and I, we’ve got about 450 vinyl albums packed away, dating back to old Beatles stuff, Doors, Van the Man (Tupelo Honey), Linda Rondstadt (all ’70s stuff), Bad Company, Zepellin, Stones, Talking Heads — the usual oldies but goodies, and some Jazz stuff, and Blues standards like Howlin’ Wolf and Buddy Guy that I like…

      • twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 1:58 pm

        ion makes usb turntables that play and convert your vinyl collection to digital . i have an older model, ttusb5, but it’s compatible with 7( not sure about 8) and i converted a few dozen vinyl albums to my computer, several of which i burned to cd and dvd. you can get it for about 50 bucks on amazon. i’ve been happy with the quality. here’s the model on the ion website, they also have newer models. i think all are compatible with macs and some are designed for designed for ipads.

        http://www.ionaudio.com/products/details/ttusb05

      • snarkk said, on October 2, 2013 at 2:00 pm

        I still have my old Marantz turntable. Pretty sure it works. Just don’t have space for it in the “entertainment center”. Too many kids vids and such. Maybe someday I’ll get it back in gear and pull out the vinyls..

      • twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 2:14 pm

        does it convert them to digital? i always liked the ‘reality’ of the vinyl recordings but i wanted the extra security of a digital back up. most of them were my dad’s jazz collection and some big band stuff from merna’s mom.

      • snarkk said, on October 2, 2013 at 2:18 pm

        I have no idea whether it can do that. I don’t know why not with a proper converter or whatever. This turntable is 30+ years old, but low miles, IMO. It worked like a charm when I boxed it up years ago…

      • Alleykat said, on October 2, 2013 at 2:32 pm

        Yeah i have that many maybe more Snarkk.
        Still spin them at home on my old marantz turntable.
        Beatles,Who,Led,AC DC,Johnny and Edgar Winter,Jethro Tull,ELO,Montrose,Pat Travers,Robin Trower,Emerson Lake&Palmer,Wishbone.Ash,Yes,Allman.Bros,38special,MoodyBlues,Rush,Styx,Jimmy.Buffet and on and on!!
        Then a fuckin warped album that I need to toss at Johnny “Toothpick Dipshit Baker” entitled…”Hunches with Cueto”

      • twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 2:41 pm

        i doubt that it can do that- here’s a good article on some options for converting. but maybe you just want to dust the old marantz and lay back and enjoy your collection without converting- i stlll listen to most of mine on the turntable, as i still like a little snap crackle pop ;-)

        http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/digitizing-your-record-collection/

  33. blade3colorado said, on October 2, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    “blade, you probably get a prize for nailing a few of the several dozen key developments in the series. i’m serious- good job.”

    Can I get a “do over” on my Reds selection? I really, really, really want a new PC. :-(

  34. zumiee said, on October 2, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    I agree with Snarkk about how silly the early round champagne celebrations are. I wonder if any of the players ever feel a little sheepish when they see the clean-up crew start to come in. I’m sure that’s a lot of fun cleaning up after a team wins the “Wild Card play-in” game.

    • zumiee said, on October 2, 2013 at 12:58 pm

      It’s so weird. Where’s the NFL and NBA attitude of “You haven’t accomplished your ultimate mission yet. Why are you celebrating so much?”

  35. PawlieKokonuts said, on October 2, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Chipower, regarding your 11:27am: was Yankee Stadium Game Mystery Woman (YSGMW) hot? She still IS hot. Which is half the mystery, cuz why would she be with me?

    • chipower9 said, on October 2, 2013 at 3:14 pm

      Very cool…you know, that she was hot. And don’t sell yourself short Mr. Kokonuts.

  36. twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    the bucs hadn’t been to the postseason since 1992 and some of the guys have been there when it appeared that ownership would never spend the money for them to ever get to the playoffs. a little over the top celebration was just fine, imo.

  37. unca_chuck said, on October 2, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    You took the rods right out of my keyboard, Twin. i was gonna say the same thing. A team like the Buccos, who haven’t won a PS game since the Bush I administration should get a pass on the celebration. I hope they keep rolling.

    • twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 2:08 pm

      speaking of keyboards, i just washed my logitech washable keyboard for the first time and IT’S TWUE, IT’S TWUE!!! it does wash in warm water easily. bonus- lotsta crispy snacks emerge during the initial brushing between the keys…

    • snarkk said, on October 2, 2013 at 3:10 pm

      Looks like Zum and I are in the mossback club frowning together on over the top champagne celebrations for winning play in games. Next, for the NCAA basketball tourney, the Monday night play-in 65th teams or whatever winners will be getting blow jobs from the school’s Welcome Wagon girls for winning the privilege of getting slaughtered by the #1 seed on Thursday. Unless, maybe that’s happening now on their recruiting visit…

      • twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 4:40 pm

        i don’t ‘smile’ on over the top champagne celebrations, the circumstances are different for all of them, the buc’s celebration after years of not even getting a chance to celebrate much beyond not losing 95 games, was totally appropriate, it would be very bizarre if they hadn’t popped the bubbly and act silly and dance about, good for them.

  38. snarkk said, on October 2, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    Kat, you didn’t lose a bet on the Reds, did you? I like Dusty a lot, he did good things with the Giants.
    But, I would be hard pressed to bet on his team in a one game playoff, particularly on the road. He’s proved he’s not a particularly good big game manager…

    • chipower9 said, on October 2, 2013 at 3:17 pm

      No shit…Aneheim comes to mind. Regardless, I am still a big Johnny B fan.

    • Alleykat said, on October 2, 2013 at 3:59 pm

      No Bet loss Snarkk.I leave that up to Pete Rose.
      No im just pissed that he started Cueto,who only had 10-11 starts all year with injuries and left him in there as there lightin him up and their carrying like 18 pitchers in this 1 game.Use your freakin pitchers before it got out of hand dumbshit.

      • snarkk said, on October 2, 2013 at 4:31 pm

        I’m with ya on that. Dusty’s getting hammered by the fans on the blogs in Cincy, but looks like GM Jockety is bringing him back to manage the last year on his deal…

  39. twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    dusty is best at what all good managers are good at- managing people. and he’s as cool as the other side of the pillow. i think read somewhere that he chills in his office with some good tunes before big games, probably on vinyl ;-)
    i loved dusty when he was here. sly dude, too.

  40. snarkk said, on October 2, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    I’m afraid game 6 of the 2002 WS, 7th inning, was as close as Dusty will ever get to winning a WS. As much as I enjoyed the 2010 Giants first one, I easily could have been down with celebrating it earlier in 2002. That was a very good team, PEDs and all, and though not as fun as the 2010 team, hell, a win then would have been great. Not to be, and now we have two, so it worked out, just a little late…

    • twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 3:40 pm

      ortiz didn’t want to stay in the game-imo- and *three* good relievers conspired to lose game 6. unless one buys the jinx theory about giving the ball to ortiz, dusty didn’t blow that… maybe i blew it by asking le central’s chef to make a special cassoulet for us for the day of the parade that i was sure to come…

  41. unca_chuck said, on October 2, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    Yeah, hard to fault Dusty for game 6 as he had used the Rodriguez-Worrell-Nen deal most of the season.

    Game 7 is a different matter, I did not want to see Livan out there in any way shape or form.

    • snarkk said, on October 2, 2013 at 4:35 pm

      Amen. The whole team wanted Reuter out there on short rest over Livan. And, so did I and rest of the Giants fandom. Handling the pitching is Dusty’s achilles heel. He’s great at getting the players to play — in the regular season…

  42. Flavor said, on October 2, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    There were a lot of things I liked about Dusty. I loved how he related to the players. You don’t name your son after your CF unless you’re super connected with your players. I enjoyed having Darrin around and in the dugout, I’d love to know if he still spends time in the dugout. I absolutely loved how he’d argue with the umps. Calm, but with an attitude and the more pissed he got the less eye contact he would make– dude was always in control on those exchanges.
    And I thought he did his best managing with the Giants.
    But the Reds were flatter than Kansas. He has to play a role in that failure, especially as such a “player’s manager”.

  43. twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    well, one of things about being a ‘player’s manager’ is expecting adult professionals to take personal responsibility for their preformance. bochy didn’t get his guys ‘up’ for those championships, he treated them like men and they responded. and i’m not sure that the reds were ‘flat’, they were beaten by good pitcher on his game-imo. i do question starting a guy who had pitched 2 games in 3 months, which i alluded to before the game.

  44. snarkk said, on October 2, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    Bochy is far better than Dusty at handling pitching, and usually knowing when to take them out. More aggressive, especially at crunch time in playoffs. Dusty is better at handling players, IMO, and younger players. No way Dusty would have ripped Belt in public multiple times. Dusty’s managed three diverse teams into the playoffs on multiple occasions — Giants, Cubs and Reds. He can manage, I just don’t think he can get it done to win a WS…

    • twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 5:07 pm

      well, bochy was about popular around these parts as rush limbaugh, i think he polled somwhere between davenport and dave bristol. no way we were ever winning anything under bonehead/botchy. dusty might still get one or two…

      • snarkk said, on October 2, 2013 at 5:14 pm

        Dusty’s 64 and in better than last year, but somewhat problematic health. One year left on his deal in Cincy, he’s done there no later than end of next season. After, he might catch on somewhere else for a season or two, but I doubt with a contender…

      • Flavor said, on October 2, 2013 at 5:34 pm

        again, agreed. Snarkk, you are speaking great wisdom tonight, at least from where I sit. Dusty’s time has passed, for many reasons. He’s a baseball guy so he doesn’t really have anything else to go do he might get another gig or even stick with the Reds (though I can’t imagine why they would do that, they need a spark and a new direction in that town). If they let him go, I can’t imagine he’d get a prime gig anywhere and he’s not gonna go manage the freaking Marlins so…..what does he do?

      • twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 5:39 pm

        his age and possible heath issues ( his problems often are treated successfully and don’t present future problems) make it more likely that he’d land a gig with a good ballclub, i doubt he’d want to undertake a rebuilding project. and he’s respected among baseball people. if wants to manage and his health allows, he’ll always get a job with a good ball club, imo. of course that depends on openings- managers heading good teams are not canned much. a retirement, a good club playing poorly, a gm or owner for whom ‘good’ is not enough..

    • Flavor said, on October 2, 2013 at 5:09 pm

      Snarkk–agreed.

  45. Flavor said, on October 2, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    “snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 9:53 pm (Edit)
    Maybe I’m a little tight on this, but isn’t it kind of premature to celebrate with champagne when you win the WC play in game? And, didn’t the Rays champagne it up yesterday when they won the play in to the play in? I’m down with celebrating, but seems like beer should be the max type of celebration level before you even get to the Division playoff…”
    I completely and 100% agree with this post. I get the Pirates failure thing, those fans should be partying their brains out. But the players are just *guys* who just got there. Their champagne celebration was totally over the top, in my opinion. The players weren’t celebrating for or with the fans in the locker room. That was a bunch of guys that looked like they’d reached the top of the mountain. Fuck that. And Hurdle is hardly the guy to guide them to the REAL top of the mountain.

    • twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 5:53 pm

      i’m not clear on how joyfully a team celebrates a victory is something for outsiders to judge ,unless they scare the horses. a lot of folks thought that fielder’s chorus line celebrating a completely meaningless regular season win was humorous. every team jumps around on every walk off as if they were greeting maz after he won the series,,,i don’t understand the condemning of a harmless, joyous celebration by the guys who did it.. just my opinion.

  46. Flavor said, on October 2, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    Twin, I just read that you nailed the score last night cold. That is fantastic and nearly impossible to do. I still remember my 6-0 prediction of the A’s to beat the Giants back in 2008 that was also awesome.

    • twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 5:42 pm

      i didn’t even think about it until i read snarrk’s post this morning. i was busy jumping into winnie’s pool..ever notice how warm and comforting a piss in a pool feels?

      • Flavor said, on October 2, 2013 at 5:55 pm

        you’ll remember it forever. It’s impossible to do. It’s like nailing the odds on lightning. You like the odds on lightning?

      • twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 6:06 pm

        i remember nailing ishikawa’s first big league hr-5 minutes before he hit it. some dimwit on the splash said it was an easy call.

  47. Bozo said, on October 2, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    Hey, I loved Dusty but had to crack up when my Aunt in Ohio, who is in her 90s, told me “Dusty is a pretty good manager, but he leaves the pitchers in too damn long”. It totally caught me off guard, I could only reply that I’d heard that before.

    • Flavor said, on October 2, 2013 at 6:03 pm

      Dusty’s playoff failures have reached the debt ceiling. In today’s game, you don’t keep giving a guy all these prime-plus jobs if you aren’t delivering the goods. Ron Washington is treading into that territory, by the way……

    • snarkk said, on October 2, 2013 at 6:04 pm

      Cincy should hire your Aunt as bench coach…

  48. snarkk said, on October 2, 2013 at 6:13 pm

    In Dusty’s defense, the Reds really didn’t do anything at mid-season to goose the club’s potential. The Bucs brought in Marlon Byrd to shore up a woeful RF. He’s definitely helped down the stretch and smoked that HR last night…

  49. blade3colorado said, on October 2, 2013 at 6:24 pm

    Fuck, already down 3-0, and 0-2 overall in the “Quest For PC” sweepstakes. Pfffttt!

    If the Indians don’t score here, I’m watching Breaking Bad, episode 3 of season 1. ;-)

  50. Alleykat said, on October 2, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    Can’t lose whem i have Spencer Tracy as my manager tonight.
    Tampa Bay doesnt fuck around and leave a pitcher in to long like Toothpick did last night.
    They had a dude warming up,just before the killer DP Cobb induced.
    Dusty would still be chokin on his toothpick leaving in Cueto to get rocked more.

  51. twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    it’s funny that way- if kipnis gets a hit, the professor left cobb in too long.

  52. twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    if the score holds, salty, chuck, pawlie, wilcojoe, manny, and sportdude are 2-0.

    • Alleykat said, on October 2, 2013 at 8:13 pm

      And bringing up the rear in a valliant but futile effort will be ..uhh sorry Blade and Boxhead at O-2

  53. twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    swisher is 2 for 18 1 hr against peralta

  54. twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    nite all.

  55. Rooster said, on October 2, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    The Tribe came into this game having won 10 in a row – guess that throws a wrench into the whole “It’s important to finish the regular season strong” theory.

  56. James said, on October 2, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    For those with collections in 4 or 5 digits, this guide is the best:

    http://birdhouse.org/blog/2011/02/20/digitizing-lps/

    I’m unsure if I can name all the remaining playoff teams. Is Bill James still advising the Red Sox? If so, “Go Sox!”

  57. James said, on October 2, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    I had no idea Dan Uggla had such an historic season. That is utterly hilarious. He tied Rob Deer, but had a lower OPS. I may have to root for the Braves.

    • James said, on October 2, 2013 at 9:33 pm

      Dan off the playoff roster?! Never mind.

  58. unca_chuck said, on October 3, 2013 at 9:33 am

    That record thing is excellent, James. I’m down to about 150 records as I lost a bunch in a garage flood. I had around 500 records.

    That kind of undertaking would be crazy but fun . . .


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