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David Price: SF Giant

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 8, 2013

Of course, that’s just *the dream*. But after I saw a few weird tweets last night at 2am about the Giants being the *front runners* to land Jose Abreu my mind started wandering towards hot stove fantasies.

Chapter 1 of *the dream*: The Giants sign Abreu, probably overpaying but whatever. This is a guy who could realistically be compared to a right handed Ryan Howard.  I haven’t researched this for a second, but let’s say the Giants land him with a 5 year/60 million dollar deal. He’ll get more than Cespy and Puke mostly because of their success at the mlb level and the fact that Abreu comes with a good deal of hype.  I have no idea what Abreu will get but if he costs more or less, I’m all for it.

Now we have a legit power hitting first baseman who we can plug into the clean up spot.

Chapter 2 of *the dream*:  The Giants trade Brandon Belt, Kyle Crick and Sergio Romo for David Price. Now please don’t tell me this is an overpay. This is what Price will cost and possibly more if all the Rays want are 3 top prospects, which is likely (and we simply don’t have 3 top prospects to pay for Price). But this trade gives them an upgrade replacement for Loney at 1B (he’ll leave for a multi year deal like all their 1-year wonders do), a HUGE upgrade at closer, and another top pitching prospect that the Rays love to stockpile.

Chapter 3 of *the dream*: David Price becomes our ace, Abreu hits 44 bombs in 2014 and we win “3 in Five”.

Thoughts?

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update: opening mail and just discovered Twin’s Andres Torres signed pic that he sent me. Here it is. Rad.

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  1. twinfan1 said, on October 8, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    you’ll notice i chose yungo batting from the right side. and passed on this one

    torres

    • chipower9 said, on October 9, 2013 at 10:27 am

      Must have been a tough decision, but I think you made the right choice…

  2. Alleykat said, on October 8, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    Im more for giving the Rays Crick,Blackburn and Panda.The ST pitching would be awesome with 2 stud leftys and Cain and hopefully Timmeh back.Nothing like 2 Cy Young winners in the rotation
    That’s only if with sign Abreu,give him a 3B glove and he hit’s like Miguel Cabera,cause his D at third would suck like Cabera but his offense would compensate.Belt would help him alot on his shit throws to1st.Are we can still use Belt in LF some,not my choice though.
    Rays get 2 quality starters for the future and a DH /1B in Panda.

  3. paulinasia said, on October 8, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    I’m down with dream 1 and 2… 1 probably being more realistic (definitely should sign Abreu, fuck the payroll), and they will need Price. Very down with dream 3. Need a dream 4, though.. still need a leftfielder, unless a
    Price deal doesn’t include Belt, I guess…. Well, Sox go to the ALCS, and if I was a *predictor*, I’d say your two current winners (Sox and Dogs) will play in the Series. I actually think that would be a great Series. Meanwhile, I’ll still hope the Bucs or Cards can knock off LA, but I doubt it. And of course, now that I’ve *predicted* that as the Series match-up, it’ll be another Tigers/Cards snoozer or A’s/Bucs thriller…. :-)

  4. snarkk said, on October 8, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    I’m buying into the hype. Crick doesn’t get dealt for anybody. Crick stays, he gets a rotation spot in June 2014 after a kick ass AA stint. Keep Belt, he plays LF. I’ll go with your Abreu shot in the dark at first. Pick up Price as a FA after next season…

  5. snarkk said, on October 8, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    BTW, I’m going to the A’s v. Tigers game Thurs. night. I don’t give an S, really, about the A’s. But, this should be good baseball theater with Verlander and Colon/Gray out there…

  6. snarkk said, on October 8, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    Check this out, I had not seen this — the Braves dissed their own HOFer. Assclowns deserved to lose…

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24051152/report-braves-boycotted-chipper-jones-first-pitch-in-nlds-game-1

    • willedav said, on October 9, 2013 at 7:41 am

      Jones isn’t exactly blameless here for predicting they’d lose, but Braves appear to be a dysfunctional bunch. I read a story couple weeks ago on MLBTR I think that said with contract obligations due to some guys they might not be able to extend some of their younger players through arb eligible years. Which would potentially leave them open to trading same, akin to what Oakland does.
      Anything interesting over there SF might be able to cherry pick?

  7. Micah said, on October 9, 2013 at 8:44 am

    Chapter 4 = Sign Kendrys Morales for right handed pop and move Belt to left. The Giants potentially give up picks but they’ve got 7 positions locked up for 2 years minimum. It leaves more money to pick up an arm

  8. willedav said, on October 9, 2013 at 9:01 am

    LA-Boston would be the epitome of unwatchability for me. In “West by West” (a good read) the Logo admits he still can’t go back there or even wear anything green. Friday I have to entertain a sales rep from LA who called to schedule appt. and said immediately, “Go dodgers!” She’s a sweet gal, but I warned her not to wear anything blue if she wanted to get in the door.

    Anyone see the letter from Baer to the fanbase (saw it in the Merc online)? Lot of excuses right behind the thank yous for those who continued to show up and spend money/buy gear, even if increasing numbers of them were disguised as empty seats. Baer and the bean counters had to be encouraged, and part of his job I guess is to keep them pumped up with fluff.

  9. Flavor said, on October 9, 2013 at 9:16 am

    The Braves are a dysfunctional bunch but what the fuck is wrong with Chipper Jones being such a dumbass? What type of a dope goes on a radio show and predicts the Braves will lose? What type of response did he expect from the fanbase or the players? That dude is a God in that town, now he’s predicting a Braves loss? That’s just idiocy of the highest order. If he felt like the braves were going to lose just don’t offer up any prediction at all, ya dope.

    • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 10:32 am

      I take the opposite view. The current players obviously could take the high road and ignore what he said, catch his “first pitch”, and go out and suck it up to win the series to prove him wrong. But, no. Assclowns that a lot of baseball players are, that are butt hurt by the slightest perceived slight, they had to “show up” Jones in return for something that meant very little, something that happened off the field. Was he wrong to say that on the radio? Hey, he could have not said it, but he’s not a player anymore. And, he was right…

      • WilcoJoe said, on October 9, 2013 at 6:59 pm

        The Braves fans are still pissed he named his firstborn Shea instead of the more popular Fulton or Turner.

  10. Chipower9 said, on October 9, 2013 at 10:27 am

    I am down with Abreu. Payroll would have to go up. I shared a link a few days back that showed where the Giants were with money for next year, and it is tight. Signing a starter and OFer at around 12 each is problematic without an increase. So, to add Abreu and Price, they would have to either lower payroll obligations (via a trade) or increase payroll.
    No way on Crick. If Crick is a must to get a deal done, then no deal. I am down with Kickham or one of the other young arms, but not Crick.

    • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 10:37 am

      Chi, if they spend a ton on Abreu, they better be right, because bringing him in will be a major facelift. They had a guy like that before and dumped him, now Guzman of the iron glove is with San Diego. At this point Kickham will generate dustbunnies in return. But, Crick? Agreed, no way I let him go for anything. Unless the deal involves Giancarlo Stanton…

    • twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 11:12 am

      what did you show for payroll obligations for 2014 ? i don’t see it as that tight. they were at 84 million, with pence it went up to 102 mill. that includes zito’s buy out.

  11. Irish Kevin said, on October 9, 2013 at 10:39 am

    Okay so Let me get this straight, Abreu plays first, Belt, goes to left field. So when Bochy gives Buster his “Day Off” and he goes to play first base, what happens to Abreu?? Cause I just don’t see Bochy sitting Buster, even though I think he should sit him.

    • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 11:04 am

      Good question.
      The best answer IMO is that since he apparently gets tired at his advanced age of 26, he has to really sit on his days off, available to PH. If they got Abreu, and he becomes a fixture, not a bust, then my plan of moving Buster out of catcher develops sooner and means he has to go to third. Which means Panda has to be traded…

    • twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 11:59 am

      the problem with trading panda is that if he shows up like he ate a panda, he won’t fetch enough to make him worth trading. and he sticks to his diet and shows up in good shape, he’s still worth more than they’d get…
      and moving a gg caliber first baseman to lf is just WRONG. no, belt is not just our best position player trade chip, he’s our only position player trade chip. he’s a *must go* if we sign abreu. i’ll be keeping a running total on payroll as i make my crafty moves. i inherit former gm sabean’s 102 million 2014 payroll obligations- counting pence and zito’s buyout. abreu will bring it to 114 million. 10 million for the arbs, vogie at a reduced scale, and minimal non-obligatory raises-total up to 124,000,000. with the abreu signing it’s obvious that we’re to raise the payroll. my assistant, dear sabes, and i have determined that we’ll bump it to 160 million- leaving a net 42 million for 2 starting pitchers ( subtract 6 million for romo/belt ), utility guy, reliever, and a short term lfer. back here with those after poop duty.

  12. Nipper said, on October 9, 2013 at 11:04 am

    Atlanta teams no matter the sport seldom win anything.

  13. twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 11:08 am

    i like price but maybe even belt/romo/crick is too little to get him- using the shields deal as the barometer. but i’m in on abreu, and still see belt and romo as our best trade chips. i have to think about my revised aquistion priorities- hey, air gm-ing is a not a process that can be rushed, not with backyard poop scooping, preserving the late peach crop, and power napping to be done. i think i’ll mull it over during poop patrol..

  14. Flavor said, on October 9, 2013 at 11:45 am

    I don’t want Belt playing left field, it would be a waste of his skills. He has trade value, package him for a stud SP (assuming we land Abreu.
    And Snarkk, I wasn’t putting all of that on Chipper. The pussy-players who boycotted him share some blame with their reaction. But Chipper played with a bunch of those guys, it’s probably a little too fresh for them to tolerate one of their own predicting they’ll lose.
    And really, what would the harm have been in just saying you think the Braves will win, even if that’s not how you feel. It would make a bunch of the fans who revere you happy and it probably means you get an upgrade over the mascot to catch your pitch.
    And here’ the other thing: if he did this as a network guy totally removed from the Braves org I could support it a little more. But he’s still at the yard, tossing out first pitches, accepting all the adulation that comes with that. You keep doing shit like that and you are nearly required to maintain “homer-ship” to the org and the fans…..

    • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 12:10 pm

      I don’t profess to know anything about inside Braves organizational stuff. I don’t care about that franchise one whit. Maybe Chipper had a “chip” on his shoulder from past dealings with management that helped him decide to publicize his prognostication…

  15. twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    i have a problem with anyone named ‘chipper’. he’s gonna have to change it back to ‘larry’ as he gets older anyway. he’ll get real cranky when the nurses start with the inevitable ‘you’re not looking too chipper today, chipper’….’hey, you’re looking mighty chipper tonight, chipper’…’mr. jones, not feeling very…..’
    so just do it now. here’s the deal- in every english speaking country except ours, no one is allowed to use the ‘chipper’ nickname once they start shaving..

  16. snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    One big reason I want to keep Belt at 1B or even LF, is that for his assumed increase in contributions next year, he’s cheap, and will be for a while. If you want to package/trade him for an established starter or a LFer with the commensurate salary of an established player, the dreaded Giants “budget” will rear it’s ugly head to cut back elsewhere. Trading Panda for an established player is an exchange of high salaries…

    • chipower9 said, on October 9, 2013 at 12:25 pm

      I agree. As mentioned earlier, the Giants are already up against some financial contraints (especially if they resign Tim). In the scenario of trading Belt, Crick and Romo, Romo is the only guy with significant salary, and the loss of these pieces will not offset, financially, the addition or either Price or Abreu.

    • twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 12:49 pm

      i don’t see the financial constraints you’ve mentioned- they’re at 102 million for 2014 counting pence and zito’s buy out. but i’m not trading for price and probably not keeping tim. and posey isn’t going to third base, btw. there two positions he could play adequately besides catching- 1st base and left field. in left field it’s burrell-esque style adequate. imvho.
      they have plenty of money to afford that top line starting pitcher with the 6 million that goes away with belt/romo. forget crick or anybody else other that pill person or similar. i’m budgeting a net 10 million for that pitcher after the belt/romo subtraction. so now i have 112, 124 with abreu. and 36 to spend on peanut butter cups or more players.

      • chipower9 said, on October 9, 2013 at 1:00 pm

        The article I mentioned (link provided) accounts for about 10 mil raises for the arb elig players, and also bringing back Lopez at about mil. The way the article lays it out, they have about 24 mil for a bat and 2 starters.

  17. chipower9 said, on October 9, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    Twin – in reference to your 11:12 response to my post on payroll, here is the article I have referenced that breaks-down the Giant’s finanaces. I think it does a pretty good job of doing so.

    http://tinyurl.com/krjnov8

    • twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 1:11 pm

      chi- this is better and easier, i think. http://tinyurl.com/l8amnw4

      and no way they’re not bumping the payroll. they stand at almost an even 100 million with pence. the 10 million on those misc. salaries is also what i have. if the budget is less than 160 million i’d be shocked and pissed. sabean and baer both know that they have to spend more to have any chance of keeping up with the bums. we’ll never match their payroll but- sorry, sabes doubters- he’s waaaaaay smarter than little ned.

      • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 1:46 pm

        Well, dumb little ned has the Doghairs in the NLCS so far. Meanwhile whip-smart Sabes had the 6th highest payroll Gyros finish with a 70s-like 76Ws and self-admitted on KNBR he had no fallback plan when Pagan went down. Cashman had a higher payroll than ned and couldn’t put the Yanks even into the WCard, and Beane has the A’s in the division series again with a payroll $100M less than Sabean’s…

      • chipower9 said, on October 9, 2013 at 2:51 pm

        Dumb little Ned also had a LOT MORE coin with which to work. Sabean admitted that they did not have the depth, but for the payroll they had, I am not sure they could have done better than they did. I take Sabean and crew (Evans, Tidrow, etc.) over Colleti ANY DAY. Fuck the Bums and Fuck Ned Colleti.

      • twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 2:53 pm

        you’re total trashing of the gm who just got us 2 ws after more than 50 years of trying, is way of the top. give sabes the reins after the ‘magical’ group took over and the bums would have won 120 games this year. and your love affair with beanehead is as absurd as your trashing of sabean just one removed from the second title.

      • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 2:58 pm

        I’m not trashing Sabean, I’m just not genuflecting before him. I’m on record as congratulating him on the two championships. That doesn’t, IMO, innoculate him from criticism from future screwups, like this past season. And, what I’ve pointed out about the other GMs are statements of fact…

      • twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 3:19 pm

        my 2:53 was for snarkk, obviously. the guy still pulls up shit on sabes from years ago and dismisses 2012 as if it were ancient history- like, uh, the bums last title..
        and when faced with the fact that he, like the rest of us, LOVED the team that we had this year, snarkk goes with, and i paraphrase- ‘well, sabean’s the gm, i’m just a ‘lil ole country lawyer, jim ;-)
        the fact of the matter is that even sabes is second guessing himself- but he had every reason to think that this was a good team. and sorry-it goes a little deeper than a frigging lf platoon. players who we, and the team, had every reason to believe would play well didn’t come through.

      • twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 3:31 pm

        you have missed as many ‘statements of fact’ on those gms as you have on sabes. you excuse beanie for no titles because of the low payroll that his group has conspired to maintain while also neglecting the zero titles for the bums with a competive payroll. dude- sabean has been more successful than either of the two, and that’s not even close to arguable.

      • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 3:48 pm

        I’m not excusing Beane for no titles. Said no such thing, because it’s not the point. I’m pointing out that with annual payrolls near the bottom of the MLB heap, he’s done very well. And, he’s got them to two division series in a row. That’s fact. That is an objectively admirable job. It’s not as good as two WS in 3 years, agreed. But, it’s great given the payroll he has to work with. Not recognizing that accomplishment seems silly. What A’s ownership does to cause the low payroll is immaterial to the fact that two division titles have been won under those conditions, and in a division where there are payroll behemoths (TX and Angels)…

      • twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 4:10 pm

        billy was as surprised as everybody else that the guys did as well as they did last year. they haven’t been an ‘unlikely’ playoff team as much as billy’s ‘what the fuck i have done’ team. this was supposed to happen once they found their way to san jose.

      • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 4:33 pm

        Maybe he was surprised, there’s plenty of that to go around. I think we know Sabes was surprised at getting Cody Ross after claiming him, and what Cody Ross did for the 2010 drive to the title. And, the Dodgers and others knew Puig would be good, but nobody could have seen the huge impact he had immediately on the team…

  18. zumiee said, on October 9, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    What’s Zumiee reading these days? Oh, glad you asked. :)
    I’ve been reading Stephen King’s “Under the Dome,” the 1,000-page novel that the TV show is based on. The TV show is laughably bad, and a must-see hate-watch; but the book is good. It can be hard to define what’s good about King, except maybe to say that he has strong insight into “American character,” the good and bad. He’s more influenced by New England character, but that’s a big part of American character. Freedom and pursuit of happiness, tainted with moments of disillusion, mixed with a blind eye to our own hypocrisies.

    • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 1:08 pm

      All I’m reading these days is articles about this gov’t shutdown and threatened debt default. Plenty of hypocrisy tainted with lots of delusion…

    • Rooster said, on October 9, 2013 at 1:23 pm

      Zoom – I read “Under the Dome” a long while back and I too, enjoyed it – I have not watched a single episode of the show, the bits and pieces I did see, before flipping to something else, were, uh, well, less than riveting let’s just say. Is that show still going? My only curiosity about the show was how they would handle the end of the story – not very well is my guess.
      Curious – have you read King’s “Dark Tower” series? It’s not *typical* Stephen King writing, but I think it is some of his best work – albeit a veeeery long undertaking – including from the 1st book “The Dark Tower / The Gunslinger” published in 1982 all the way through to the last installment “The Dark Tower VII” published in 2004 – they are all here in my library.
      If you have yet to read them, I highly recommend them – some really good stuff.

      • Nipper said, on October 9, 2013 at 3:01 pm

        A rooster can read? When can one find the time?

    • twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 2:54 pm

      the hypocrisy is totally from the republicans.

      • Nipper said, on October 9, 2013 at 3:02 pm

        Damn I hate both parties.

  19. snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    Aldon Smith charged with felony possession of illegal assault rifles.
    What a maroon…

    http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/49er-Aldon-Smith-hit-with-felony-gun-charges-4882140.php

    • Nipper said, on October 9, 2013 at 3:03 pm

      HE’S GONE

    • Flavor said, on October 9, 2013 at 4:54 pm

      what’s up with the DA digging this up now? Looks like a pub stunt for them to me. What took them so long?

      • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:03 pm

        I suspect some new facts or crystallized facts and witnesses showed up because of lawsuits recently filed by guys that got shot at the party – suits against Aldon and Delanie Walker, though they didn’t do the shooting of the victims…

  20. twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    i’m going to change my mind on price and give them belt,romo, blackburn, and arias. that’s 14 million net for price( he’s at that now, he’s super two, so i’m being generous and giving him what timmy got this year- 20 million). so now i’m down to 18 million and i have price, abreu, and lopez. i’ve lost belt and romo and the prospects. staying are blanco, sanchez, perez, and tony abreu among the reserves so we need one utility guy, a number 4 starter, and a health risk lfer. jason vargas for 7 mill for the 4 spot. leaves me 11 million ( vogie, petit, surkamp, kickham,maybe escobar fight it out for the 5). i’m taking corey hart as my health risk left fielder at 5 million, signing jason bay to a minor league deal, and if neither of them work out, it’s blanco/perez. now i have 6 million for a top botch utility guy. not getting uribe for that, bloomquist doesn’t have the pop we need…the utilty infielder is a toughie. so i’m pulling arias out of that trade- he’s better than the available free agent utilty infielders. i’m doubling his pay, so now i’m down to 5 million. let’s a get another reliever- Boone Logan- 5 mill.
    we’re done.
    1. pagan cf
    2. scooter 2b
    3. posey c
    4. abreu 1b
    5. pence rf
    6. panda 3b
    7. hart or ?
    8. crawford

    reserves- blanco, perez, sanchez, abreu, arias

    starting pitchers- price, madbum, cain, vargas, one of: vogie/petit/surkamp/escobar/kickham
    relief pitchers- one of the prospective 5th starters, affeldt, lopez, logan, hembree, casilla, one of machi, kontos, rosario, dunning, cody hall.
    with arias out of the price trade, i’m adding their choice of brown, quiche, or peguero, plus martin agosta.

    go buccos..

    • Flavor said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:01 pm

      first of all, Boone Logan sucks. You have to watch him pitch regularly. He’d make you miss Mijares who is awful, especially with inherited runners.
      Secondly, you’re not paying enough for Price….
      And Hart is a huge pussy who gets hurt all the time. He doesn’t have a spot on my team.
      But I appreciate how you broke it all down.

  21. salty said, on October 9, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    I’d be cool with Hart …
    But I’m not fully there with the Abreu pursuit. The defense was atrocious this year and now they are going to trade a GG in Belt for a ? At 1b to pair with a 38yr old 2b? Scary.

    • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 4:29 pm

      I’d be up more for a hard hitting outfielder. Aren’t there any more Puig types out there in Cuba? If Abreu’s glove is as iron as I’ve read, he better hit a ton. Because you’ve degraded the D at 1b and in LF (with Belt) for the sake of a supposed big upgrade in power at 1b. The Cuban gov’t is soon going to open up ALL their Cuban baseball players to get snatched by other countries’ leagues, including MLB, obviously with conditions. http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/28/world/americas/cuba-athletes-abroad/index.html So, why not wait a bit and see if we can snag an OFer so we don’t F up several positions defensively?…

      • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 4:44 pm

        I’ll tell ya, if the Cubans actually do open up their players to be taken by other countries, but the US gov’t forbids MLB teams from taking them because the players’ US dollar salaries will be taxed by the Cuban gov’t, I for one am going to be PO’d…

  22. salty said, on October 9, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    What about Kelly Johnson as a utility guy? Does have pop and can play LF.

    • Flavor said, on October 9, 2013 at 4:46 pm

      eh, he’s a left handed hitter who only hits about .235 these days. That average would probably go down, as would his already declining HR numbers, if he had to hit at ATT as a left hander.

      • twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 4:59 pm

        i looked at him because he does have pop. but yeah- .225 last year, .235 this year.

  23. zumiee said, on October 9, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    Rooster, the “Dome” TV series actually got great Nielsen ratings, and is going to be back for a second season, next summer I think. The TV show’s a mess, so I’m guessing some people are watching it just to laugh at it, like I do.
    The book is far superior. But King is an executive producer on the TV show, so he bears at least a little of the blame for the quality of the show. He could have spoken up at some point, and asked why the show is so silly.
    Supposedly he will be writing the first episode of Season 2, so maybe he can take the show up a few notches.
    I haven’t read any of the Dark Tower series. I’m sure I’ll get around to it eventually.
    Ironically, I got back into reading some King because of his baseball book about the 2004 Red Sox season. The book was so entertaining that it made me want to give some more of his stuff a try.

    • zumiee said, on October 9, 2013 at 4:44 pm

      There is one thing that is quality in the TV show. It has Dean Norris, from “Breaking Bad,” in it. He does a real good job as Big Jim Rennie.

    • unca_chuck said, on October 9, 2013 at 4:48 pm

      Have you read The Stand, Zumie? That and the Shining are 2 of his better books. I just started reading Dr. Sleep. It’s a sequel to The Shining. 30 years later.

      • zumiee said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:08 pm

        I haven’t read those yet. Off the top of my head- I’ve read the Red Sox book: “Faithful,” “11/22/63,” “The Green Mile,” and some of his novellas: “Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption,” “The Body,” and a few others.

  24. unca_chuck said, on October 9, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    The only thing I know about Under the Dome TV show is Hank is in it. . .Haven’t watched a second of it.

    • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 4:55 pm

      Bryan Cranston, aka Walter White, is now prepping to play LBJ on Broadway. Skyler as Ladybird – now, that would be mind blowing. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/culture/la-et-cm-bryan-cranston-lbj-play-broadaway-20131007,0,5075554.story

      • zumiee said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:16 pm

        That would be really cool to see. Interest in LBJ is very high, with a new book from Robert Caro out. Caro is writing what many consider the definitive biographical series on LBJ. I haven’t read any of those books yet, although I have seen some interviews with Caro on TV, and he’s a very engaging speaker. He’s an East Coaster, from Brooklyn, I think, and yet he ended up going to the hardscrabble parts of Texas to research LBJ. The Texans weren’t quite sure what to make of Caro.

      • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:33 pm

        I’ve been through Johnson City, TX. Not much to it. The stories about LBJ are legion. Talk about corrupt. Boy Howdy. Johnson would make these Congressmen today look like choirboys. I’ll guarantee one thing, if he were majority leader today in the Senate, this default nonsense would not happen. He had a file on everybody, including Hoover. Johnson didn’t woo Ladybird for her stunning looks. Her family had dough, which he used with his political influence to parley into buying a radio and TV station mini-empire that made them rich…

    • zumiee said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:11 pm

      Hank (Dean Norris) is, by far, the best actor in the “Dome.” He plays the morally-challenged leader of a drug empire in the “Dome.” How’s that for a flip from “Breaking Bad”? :)

  25. snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    Wow, Melvin is starting Sonny Gray in game 5 vs. Verlander. If Gray gets hammered, Melvin will be in for some big time second guessing, even though Colon has a horrific record vs. Detroit. I’m going. I hope this one will be a real nail biter. Maybe Beane can rent Panda to go up against Verlander. If Detroit clubs ‘em early, there’s always the “Pink” concert next door…

    • Flavor said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:19 pm

      Gray is sick. I posted before the Sat night game that I was truly excited to watch that epic pitching match up and it turned into exactly that. Starting Colon would remind me a little of Dusty starting Livan. I know Colon has had a very good year but it’s the end of the year, he’s old and fat and just got hammered by Detroit.
      I’d go with Gray every time, I think it’s a brilliant, gutsy call

      • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:24 pm

        Gray does have some nasty nasty stuff. Great curve ball. Kind of a young Lincecum. I like the Livan analogy. Melvin better play some smarter situational sets than yesterday. If the A’s get bases loaded and no outs again, that would be a killer. I’ve got a seat in the upper level, above first base. The last A’s game I saw I went with a my daughter’s girl scout troop — maybe 10,000 people there, tops on a weekend afternoon about 2 years ago. I assume this crowd will be a little more “energetic”…

      • Flavor said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:30 pm

        cool that you’re going. I no longer hate the A’s, I’m even rooting for them, though with little passion. And I wouldn’t go to a game unless I had a free ticket. Cross your fingers that the sewer lines flow free and clear! :)

      • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:35 pm

        I’ll empty my bladder before getting on the BART.
        I may wear boots just in case I have to grab a beer and the mens room backs up…

      • Flavor said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:49 pm

        I went to a Raiders game years ago (AFC Championship vs San Diego, my buddy lured me there cause he had a luxury box spot for me) and when I went to take a piss close to halftime I had to wade through a 1 inch layer of piss on the floor. I had on running shoes so that sucked. When I asked my buddy about it he pointed to all the guys in the can wearing high tops. He said, “all the season ticket holders wear high tops because of the piss level on the floor.”
        And it had nothing to do with the lines backing up it was just neanderthal Raider fans pissing all over the floor in the bathroom because they didn’t want to wait in line.
        Disgusting group, those Raider fans.

      • twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:53 pm

        well, i thought that burnett and colon should be the starters in the deciders. i know that the vets got hit hard but i still like the old farts in the ‘or there’s no tomorrow’ games..if the bucs get beat tonight, i’m going for the a’s just because. let’s see- i like balfour, cespedes, moss, gray, and the manager.

      • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 6:08 pm

        Lovely about the Raider’s game bathroom. Maybe I’ll wear my flyfishing waders…

      • Flavor said, on October 9, 2013 at 6:17 pm

        “fly fishing waders” –now THAT is gold.

  26. snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    If you’ve got a hankerin’ for some more Flemm, he’s on the Bucs/Cards radio broadcast doing PBP…

  27. twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    here are the guys who have picked both lds series’ winners . none of them picked both wc games .and nobody got both the winning teams right in the lds *and* both of the number of games it would take.
    rooster- 1 of 2 wc, bums in 4, red sox in 5….salty-1 of 2 wc, dodgers in 4, red sox in 3…chi- 1 of 2 wc, bums in 5, red sox in 4 …birddog- 1 of 2 wc, bums in 4, boston in 5….boxhead…0 of 2 wc, dodgers in 4, red sox in 5….denny- 1 of 2 wc, bums in 5, red sox in 5

    so i’m guessing that that group are the leaders and it’s almost a tie among them.

  28. zumiee said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    Snarkk, that article that you posted about Aldon Smith was a trip. It was like an episode of “Breaking Bad” or “The Wire.” What a surreal night at the Aldon Smith pad. And yet, you get the sense that somewhere deep down, Aldon wanted some drama to happen. Like Aaron Hernandez, he had a desire to show his “street cred” at some point, for some reason. Why a multimillionaire athlete craves that kind of “street cred” will forever mystify fans.

    • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:29 pm

      The kid needs to straighten up quick, Zum. Else, he’ll be in jail or dead. Seriously. DUIs, weed, handguns, AND assault rifles. Yeah, all we need now is a meth lab in the back of his house. What I can’t figure out is WTF Delanie Walker was doing there firing off a handgun? He’s supposedly a stand up guy, intelligent, an adult…

      • unca_chuck said, on October 9, 2013 at 6:13 pm

        So was Glenn Coffee. They found a gun in his car as well.

      • twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 7:28 pm

        those women drivers trying to parallel park must be stopped..

      • Nipper said, on October 9, 2013 at 7:48 pm

        No gun under your pillow at night? You got guts.

  29. Flavor said, on October 9, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    Looks like Twin’s sketched out some possibilities above regarding the contest and the semi-current standings. I’ve got a running tally too and will post the standings tomorrow morning with the A’s/Tigers game to be decided tomorrow night (I’ll include everyone’s pick for that game tomorrow in the standings)

  30. Flavor said, on October 9, 2013 at 6:20 pm

    God I hate the Cardinals. Even though I picked them in the contest, I would LOVE to see some comeback/walkoff magic from the Bucs tonight.

    • snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 6:25 pm

      If the Bucs lose, I’ll be oh for 3 in predicting the division series. Just call me Nostradoofus…

    • twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 6:36 pm

      i’ve picked both division series that are over. i also nailed the number of games it would take, the winning and losing pitchers, number of hrs and total basehits, length of the national anthems, hot dogs sold, and exact attendance.
      mickey will confirm this. he will if he wants dinner this week..

      • Nipper said, on October 9, 2013 at 7:43 pm

        meow….

  31. Rooster said, on October 9, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    Yeah, unca – “The Stand” is one of his better ones, and if you like short stories King is a master of ‘em – His 1st collection of them in his book Nightshift (20 stories) ended up having more than half of them adapted to the screen – including Children of the Corn, the Lawnmower Man, and Maximum Overdrive (based on “Trucks”), and Jerusalems Lot (which was a prelude to his longer novel ‘Salems Lot that is another of his better novels) – – most of the film adaptations were kind of corny which is a recurring theme when King’s writing gets translated to the screen – a shame because these stories always reminded me of old classic Rod Serling Twighlight Zone episodes.

  32. Rooster said, on October 9, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    It hit the bag! – how often does that happen? HUGE for the Bucs right there.

    • Rooster said, on October 9, 2013 at 7:11 pm

      Well, it could have been huge until Martin just grounded weakly to short – maybe not huge but one run out of it – have to start the comeback somewheres

  33. twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    it’s up to the a’s to save us, i guess. otherwise it’s shaping up to be ‘what’s on the amc channel’ this fall..

    • James said, on October 9, 2013 at 9:20 pm

      Don Siegel’s “The Lineup” has been languishing in the queue for a couple of weeks now. How many idiotic bouncy house celebrations not performed by your own team can a man tolerate?

  34. twinfan1 said, on October 9, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    goodnight, guys. say, who wants my pallet of my tuna squeezers instead of the pc? there’s a thousand on a pallet. if you do as well as i did you’ll make $20.13 in 5 years… minus expenses.

  35. snarkk said, on October 9, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    The Cards back in the NLCS pisses me off. Not because I hate the Cards, but because here they are back knocking at the door to the Pennant, showing bona fides as a consistent contender, with the Giants doing a face plant. Embarrassing. Not the way Giants fans envisioned this…

  36. Flavor said, on October 9, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    Standings are updated.


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