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Tanaka

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on January 21, 2014

This Friday is the deadline for Masahiro Tanaka to make his decision on his employer for 2014. There are five or 6 teams in contention (reportedly) with the Dodgers being the front runners. Arizona, the Cubs, the Yankees, Seattle and possibly the White Sox have made or are making an offer to him. He wants to live on the west coast and his wife is a wannabe pop star so you would think that all signs point to him signing with the Dodgers. Although the Cubs are offering the most money. It sucks that 2 of the 5 (or 6) teams interested are from our division.

Whoever gets him will be significantly upgrading their rotation.

Dead zone. Think I might go scour around for a new BBOTD to perk me up.

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  1. gianthead said, on January 21, 2014 at 6:31 am

    What have we come to that the Yankees cant overwhelm a free agent by money alone???

  2. Bozo said, on January 21, 2014 at 6:41 am

    I think the Angels are in the hunt as well. If he’s not a Giant, I hope he ends up in the AL.

    • Flavor said, on January 21, 2014 at 6:46 am

      As much as I loath the Seahawks I actually like the Mariners a little bit. He would put them over the top, I think, at least in terms of them winning that very competitive division.

      • Bozo said, on January 21, 2014 at 6:59 am

        The Mariners are spenders this year and that would be a great top of the rotation for them. He only had 37 AB (42 PA) in 175 games in Japan. I’m hoping he doesn’t want to hit and opts for the AL.

  3. Flavor said, on January 21, 2014 at 7:52 am

    And The Groper signs a minor league deal with the Phillies. He had a 3.06ERA with us last year. The real story behind the Giants jettisoning him has yet to be told.

    • snarkk said, on January 21, 2014 at 11:21 am

      As usual, the Giants beat “insiders” have said virtually nothing on this, whether they have the real info or not. The guy was nails for 1/2 a season as a starter, hell arguably our second best starter after MBum, then got hurt a little, was mound whisperer to Tim, then GONE, with no explanation. You’d think somebody noticed this guy pitched his ass off at the MLB level for half a season. Yeah, there’s gotta be a story, and nobody’s talkin’…

  4. willedav said, on January 21, 2014 at 7:59 am

    Less interested in who gets Tanaka than what happens with the rest of the FA SPs. Still plenty of guys out there for SF to pick up top quality arm for the rotation, and hopefully not have to give up more than 2 yrs deal.
    M’s were the darling couple years ago with the supposed genius Z guy as the new GM. They might be building something, but even with Tanaka would likely be chasing wild card in that division. Without him that chase is a lot more uphill.
    I’m skeptical Cano puts up numbers anywhere near what he did with the Yanks, and that Seattle can find someone to hit behind him. Lot of reports about his casual D and lack of hustle in NY; if he isn’t getting much to hit and team isn’t going anywhere, I can see this deal becoming Soriano like. He is going to be under a different type of focus and pressure there as a superstar; see how he handles it.

  5. Nipper said, on January 21, 2014 at 8:35 am

    Where’s Dennis? MLK day is over.

  6. unca_chuck said, on January 21, 2014 at 9:28 am

    Yeah, I think (hope?) the Angels swoop in and sign him.

  7. Macdog said, on January 21, 2014 at 9:41 am

    This one’s for WillieD. My daughter plays JV on the HS hoops team. Last week the varsity did the near-impossible: They were shut out for the entire 2nd half in a 27-14 loss. I wasn’t able to stay for the varsity game, so I’m not sure how this happened other than the “nothing would fall in” line literally was true. And it’s not like this is a bad team: They’re 6-4 (albeit in a weak division) and followed up with a 53-22 win. There’s not much size, so they take a lot of 3’s. And I’ve seen enough girls hoops games over the years to know anything’s possible. Still, a zero in the 2nd half really was a head-scratcher.

  8. blade3colorado said, on January 21, 2014 at 10:27 am

    Call me crazy or delusional, but I sort of find Richard Sherman to be a good person. I say “sort of,” only because I don’t know too much about him. However, I am reading more and more positive stories about him, as well as a few videos that substantiate this alternative perception. In short, the other side of Sherman is beginning to seep out of the media echo chamber.

    Yes, he comes from Compton, Los Angeles, but against tremendous odds, he not only survived living in that chaotic and dangerous environment, but was able to thrive, whereby he was able to attend Stanford University . . . and graduate. I also understand he dedicates himself to underprivileged kids growing up in the same environment he faced. He tells them, “If I can do it, you can do it.”

    I know most of you guys disagree with this, perhaps even more so because of the manner in which the 49ers lost Sunday. This doesn’t excuse his behavior in the aftermath of the Seattle win. However, I definitely don’t think he is a “thug,” as has been portrayed by some in the media, and other worse terms, which I find down right racist.

  9. willedav said, on January 21, 2014 at 11:18 am

    Hey, on the MLBTR site a blogger’s comment on Gaudin signing cracked me up.
    “…he’s a huge community presence type of guy too. There are dozens of hospitals in the Philly region for him to do personal visits and meet the patients.”

    • Bozo said, on January 21, 2014 at 11:45 am

      That cracked me up as well.

  10. unca_chuck said, on January 21, 2014 at 11:21 am

    Well, I didn’t really mind the screaming and posing, but the choker deal with Kaepernick, and the passive-aggressive bullshit with Crabtree was way past the line.

    If I’m a 49er, I try to put Sherms into a situation where I can level his ass. I thought the ‘You mad, bro?’ deal was funny, but unless he wants to become a carcature of himself, a la TO, he should tone that shit down. There’s nothing wrong with being a loudmouth, but constantly throwing opponents under the bus will get him singled out for pain.

    • blade3colorado said, on January 21, 2014 at 11:29 am

      Out of all the shit he pulled Sunday, dollars to donuts – the “choke” move will get him fined substantially in the next few days.

  11. snarkk said, on January 21, 2014 at 11:26 am

    Sherman’s an S disturber, period. Look at me, look at me. He baits guys, then when they go off on him, it’s “who me, I was just trying to congratulate the guy”. That’s weak. Too bad, he’s a very good player, and doesn’t need to do that stuff. TO territory down the road if he doesn’t tone it down. Bowman is far far more of a badass than Sherman, yet you don’t see that public garbage from Bowman. Who of those two gets more respect in the various locker rooms?…

    • unca_chuck said, on January 21, 2014 at 12:38 pm

      Locker room respect isn’t the point. Sherman gets all he needs from his teammates. And that’s all he’s really worried about. Thing is, though, someone WILL blast his ass to next month given the oportunity. Hence the targeting like I said.

      Say someone picks off a pass on the other side of the field from Sherman. If I’m Vernon Davis, I’m going cruise missile on Sherman no matter where he is on the field.

  12. Flavor said, on January 21, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    Sherman is a good guy and he’s very intelligent. And I agree with Snarkk, he is a shit disturber. Since he’s smarter than most he knows how to get under guy’s skin. And he’s as ego centric as they come. That doesn’t make him a thug or even a jerk. He’s an annoying shit disturber, plain and simple.

  13. Nipper said, on January 21, 2014 at 1:19 pm

    He was a shit disturber………if that’s the worst you can say about a guy that’s not too bad especially in today’s world.

    • unca_chuck said, on January 21, 2014 at 2:03 pm

      If the benchmark is Terrell Owens, then sure, Nipster. But you are talking about a HOF talent that may just be laughed out of the club for being a major league douchebag. It would serve him right, but in his heyday he was the best WR out there.

  14. James said, on January 21, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    The rant after the game was not a calculated outburst. No matter what else you want to say about Sherman, that “interview” was an uncontrolled lashing out from someone with pretty broad resentments and an outsized ego.

  15. salty said, on January 21, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    “Prime time” high stepped his way into the HOF.

  16. zumiee said, on January 21, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    Kershaw’s contract is pretty mindblowing. $30 million a season for a starting pitcher. That works out to about a million dollars per start. There’s no way fans can relate to that in any way.

    • wswin said, on January 21, 2014 at 3:55 pm

      I guess another way of looking at it could be with the payroll structure, the dodgers are willing to pay about 2 1/2 million per win. Could fans relate to that?

    • snarkk said, on January 21, 2014 at 4:21 pm

      Tiger made $78 million overall in 2012, or thereabouts. Assuming 25 tournaments, and 280 strokes per tournament, that’s 7000 strokes in front of fans, or a little over $11,000 per swing or putt. Hard to relate to that, too…

  17. DJLoo said, on January 21, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    It was that much worse because a female reporter had to deal with it. Wonder if anything would have been different if the interviewer was a lummox like Siragusa…

    • James said, on January 21, 2014 at 4:34 pm

      What, no mention of his “pretty broad resentments”?

  18. DJLoo said, on January 21, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    It’ll never happen, but the Giants should do the right thing and give Bumgarner something closer to what he deserves. At least throw in some easy to achieve incentive clauses.

    • Flavor said, on January 21, 2014 at 4:26 pm

      Does a pitcher not pitching to the size of his contract give back some of the $$$?

      • snarkk said, on January 21, 2014 at 4:36 pm

        Wow, that Zito refund will be a nice one…

  19. DJLoo said, on January 21, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    That’s not the point. It’s about doing the right thing and keeping your main guy happy. Why should Bumgarner be punished for Zito? You don’t fleece your friends.

    • snarkk said, on January 21, 2014 at 5:29 pm

      I’d agree with you in principle re: Bum. But, he had an agent, and he operates under a collective bargaining agreement with his union. It’s not like he had blinders on when he negotiated his deal. Dumbass representation, maybe, but if he blows out his elbow March 1 in Scotttsdale, his checks keep coming…

    • Flavor said, on January 21, 2014 at 5:37 pm

      Punished? How is he being punished? He signed a contract. Fucking honor it. Which he will. Good ol’ southern boys don’t bail on shit they sign.

      • SanDawg said, on January 21, 2014 at 6:38 pm

        I agree with Loo. Head off some potential problems down the road and take care of the guy. Tack on a couple of years with a nice bump. Reminds me of the deal Ricky Williams signed with the Saints that was terrible and led to problems. Yeah, I know Bum has more class than Ricky, but you can’t tell me that deal isn’t gnawing at him and won’t be an issue moving forward.

  20. blade3colorado said, on January 21, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    When these dudes give us a refund, I’ll consider Bumgarner’s contract:

    Aubrey Huff (2 yrs, $20 million + $2 million buyout for 2013, 2011-12)
    Aaron Rowand (5 yrs, $60 million, 2008-2012, released in September ’11)
    Ray Durham (second contract signed in 2006: 2 yrs, $14.5 million, 2007-08, traded in ’08)
    Armando Benitez (3 yrs, $21 million, 2005-07, traded in ’07)
    Edgardo Alfonzo (4 yrs, $26 million, 2003-05, traded in ’05)
    Marvin Benard (3 yrs, $11.1 million, 2001-03)
    Dave Roberts (3 yrs, $18 million: 2007-09, released in ’09)
    Matt Morris (3 yrs, $27 million: 2006-09, traded in ’07)
    Brett Tomko (2 yrs, $4.5 million: 2004-05)
    Rich Aurilia (second contract with the club: 2 yrs, $8 million: 2007-08)
    Miguel Tejada (1 yr, $6.5 million: 2011)
    Rennie Stennet (5 yrs, $3 million: 1980-84, released in ’82)
    Mark DeRosa (2 yrs, $12 million: 2010-11)

    • snarkk said, on January 21, 2014 at 5:36 pm

      I’d almost forgotten Matt Morris. Ouch. You had to remind me, blade? ;)

      • blade3colorado said, on January 21, 2014 at 5:39 pm

        Sheesh, the aura of the 2 World Series trophies made me forget another “screw the pooch” contract . . . Mark Portugal’s 3-year, $11 million deal with the Giants isn’t often remembered, but it was a lot of money at the time for a starter and he was a complete disaster. The Giants would’ve been better off putting that money towards keeping Clark.

      • snarkk said, on January 21, 2014 at 5:51 pm

        Of your list, it’s hard for me to get past Rohand as the worst, but I think on sheer idiocy in the face of overwhelming evidence NOT to do the deal, or at least NOT even close to the money they gave him, I’d go with the Tejada deal. He was taking out garbage with Balt and the Pads in 2010 before Sabes signed him for 2011, and NOBODY else wanted him, as I remember. Certainly not to the tune of $6.5 million. That was a joke signing, but Sabes panicked because he had nobody else for SS except Burriss and/or Fontenot and/or a totally green Crawford, right? Then Miggy dissed management in late August, or whenever that was, and got his ass canned. Wow. And, I can’t believe Miggy still actually got some game time (53 games) and got paid by KC Royals this past season. I assume he passed his PEDs test(s), since I didn’t hear otherwise…

      • snarkk said, on January 21, 2014 at 6:52 pm

        Yep, the Tejada deal sucked. Unless, I agreed with it… ;)

    • gianthead said, on January 21, 2014 at 6:19 pm

      The Bernard deal looks great

  21. Flavor said, on January 21, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    Stennett. Wow. What would be the interest on the refund, if he gave it to us?

  22. Flavor said, on January 21, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    Doug Baldwin just tweeted that if Crabs had simply shaken Sherman’s hand there would have been no issue. Someone who went to Stanford can’t be stupid enough to think anyone will buy that bullshit, can he?

    • snarkk said, on January 21, 2014 at 6:14 pm

      Apparently he is. If Sherman and buds were OK with his rant, they wouldn’t be backing up and making excuses for it now, after the fact and after he’s gotten crushed from just about everywhere for it. He’s an attention hound who’s been down this road several times before with outrageous comments about others, but he went over the line this time because it was a very ME ME ME rant right after a great team win. That’s why he’s trying to extricate himself from it somewhat. He could give a rat’s ass about dissin’ Crabby…

      • Flavor said, on January 21, 2014 at 6:28 pm

        Sherman actually talked Baldwin out of transferring from Stanford. Neither one of them like Harbs much, Baldwin hates him. Harbs is not a people person, I think we all know that. Anyway, not surprising that Bald’s is backing DICK.

      • snarkk said, on January 21, 2014 at 7:20 pm

        Sherman should have transferred to Cal. We’ve had a shitty defensive secondary since, oh, about forever…

  23. snarkk said, on January 21, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    Brett Pill now to play in S. Korea with the “KIA Tigers”. Not even Japan. And, morons on plenty of blogs were yelling that he should play ahead of Belt. Amazing…

    • blade3colorado said, on January 21, 2014 at 6:05 pm

      KIA???? Killed in action?

      • blade3colorado said, on January 21, 2014 at 6:06 pm

        Oh wait, that’s right, the car maker is from there. Duh.

  24. s said, on January 21, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    It was worth giving Portugal 11 mill just so we didn’t have to watch Barry face him. God, he owned Bonds.

    • Flavor said, on January 21, 2014 at 7:03 pm

      Diggity, why you just rollin’ with the “S” moniker. Brevity overdone?

  25. Bozo said, on January 22, 2014 at 5:22 am

    When Mark Portugal was with Houston he went something like 11-3 against the Giants. In 93 he was 2-0 with a 0.57 ERA against us, if we won those two games, we would have been in the WS that year. So having him not pitch against us wasn’t a bad idea. During his two shorten years with the Giants he was 15-13. In the 94 strike shorten year he had 21 starts and went 10-8 (he also hit .354 with 5 doubles and 8 RBIS not bad in the 9th slot), in 95 he was 5-5 and clearly on the way out, before we traded him to the Reds. He didn’t put up the numbers for us that he did in 93 with the Stros, but a disaster? Hell trading him, Burba and DLew to the Reds for Deion, now that was a disaster.


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