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What Are the Odds?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on April 12, 2014

I couldn’t find a stat that told me how often an SF Giants pitcher has come to the plate with the bases loaded. I know it’s happened at least twice. :) Still, considering all of the times a pitcher has batted with the bases jacked, and exactly two of them have managed to hit a grand slam, it’s safe to say that it doesn’t happen very often. How many years have the Giants been in SF? 55? Multiply that by 162. Considering playoff games and the few they’ve played this year, lets say they’ve played about 9,000 games. I’ll say a pitcher comes to bat with the bases loaded maybe every third game. Sound about right? Divide 3k into 2 and you get 0.0006%.

So what we saw last night should be savored. It likely will never happen again, considering the DH will be hitting the NL sooner rather than later.

Some day, next to the hallowed Willie McCovey statue, I expect the Giants to build another one that looks a little like this:

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  1. James said, on April 12, 2014 at 11:11 am

    Re-posted from last thread:

    No one but BF gives a crap I’m sure, but here are your Giants pitchers total HR stats:

    1958-2014 : 100 HRs, 2 Grand slams
    All time: 319 HRs, 7 Grand slams

    2.2% of all HRs hit by Giants pitchers have been grand slams; 2% by SF Giants

    What % of HRs hit by all players are grand slams?

    Total HRs in MLB history: ~267,000
    Total Grand Slams in MLB history: ~6500

    About 2.4 % of all HRs are grand slams

    To the extent that a pitcher is going to run into a pitch and go yard at all, the Giants aren’t noteworthy one way or the other . . . especially after MadBum’s slam last night. SF was due . . . :-)

    • James said, on April 12, 2014 at 11:24 am

      Those stats just underscore how freakishly improbable Tony Cloninger’s game was.

  2. James said, on April 12, 2014 at 12:55 pm

    Since everyone finds this topic so fascinating, here are the 2013 stats for bases occupied:

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/split.cgi?t=b&team=SFG&year=2013#bases

    The Giants had 160 PAs with the bases loaded, or about one a game. So, it’s more like once every 10-12 games that a pitcher comes up with the bases loaded (they get pinch hit for a lot, hitters are crappier at the end of the order etc.).

    So you can say pitchers see the bases loaded ~15 times a year. 15 x 55 years = 825 total PAs with the bases loaded.

  3. snarkk said, on April 12, 2014 at 12:55 pm

    Is the MadBum’s snotrocket thing a nasal issue or some kind of nerves release mechanism?…

    • Bozo said, on April 12, 2014 at 1:45 pm

      I thought it was to put jalapeno juice on the ball.

    • CristinCristin said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:02 pm

      Pretty sure it’s a Hickory, NC thang.

  4. snarkk said, on April 12, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    Lurie brought up this morning the fact that despite the offense so far, this bench so far is smoking major pole at the plate. Nobody on the bench is doing much with the bat. I don’t know what the answer is, there’s nothing down below, really. Scutaro might as well be on the dark side of the moon, for all I know about where he fits into this picture, if ever. And, Abreu is pretty much similar to what we’ve got. It’s a puzzlement…

  5. zumiee said, on April 12, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    Bumgarner makes hitting look easy, but it’snot!

    • Flavor said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:54 pm

      Hey, I thought it was funny!

  6. zumiee said, on April 12, 2014 at 1:34 pm

    Bumgarner had one of the more unusual lines you ever see in a batting boxscore: 1 1 1 5.

  7. zumiee said, on April 12, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    Krukow set it all up well on the broadcast last night by, early in the game, talking about Bumgarner’s impressive exploits during batting practice.

    • WilcoJoe said, on April 12, 2014 at 1:55 pm

      About time someone made him look good.

      • zumiee said, on April 12, 2014 at 1:56 pm

        :)

  8. zumiee said, on April 12, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    Cainer can’t seem to get a 1-2-3 inning lately.

  9. zumiee said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:02 pm

    So, Shawn Estes hit a grandslam in 2000. I didn’t remember that. I do remember him stepping off 2nd base and getting tagged out in the 2000 playoffs. I remember THAT well.
    And Dusty not pinch-hitting for Gardner with the bases loaded in the 5th inning of the last playoff game. I guess Dusty thought Gardner might join the grandslam-hitting pitcher statistics.

    • unca_chuck said, on April 12, 2014 at 5:11 pm

      He shattered his ankle on that play.

      • Bozo said, on April 12, 2014 at 5:45 pm

        unca, I’m pretty sure he just twisted his ankle, and I seem to recall all he had to do was sit down on 2B.

  10. blade3colorado said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    Man, I love those sombreros.

    • zumiee said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:17 pm

      I loved Krukow’s comment about those sombreros last year. With awe in his voice, he said: “There’s 20,000 of those out in the world now, and we’re going to be seeing those the rest of our lives.”

      • blade3colorado said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:21 pm

        My Mom is keeping mine safe at her Sunnyvale home, so when I roll into town, I am ready to go Calvera (think Eli Wallach in Magnificent Seven) whenever the feeling washes over me.

  11. blade3colorado said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:11 pm

    That’s an excellent idea K (don’t know which one) had about the flat screen in the cove. DO IT BAER!

    • WilcoJoe said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:22 pm

      I was thinking the same thing. If there is way for Baer to make a nickel, it will happen.

  12. DJLoo said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    Can I get extra credit for this?

    DJLoo said, on April 6, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    Seems like the Giant pitchers rarely help themselves offensively in recent years.
    Wasn’t Bumgarner supposed to be a great hitter?
    Reply

  13. zumiee said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    Wow, Anderson was really dealing, but hurt his hand swinging the bat, and now he’s out.

    • WilcoJoe said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:23 pm

      Time to take advantage.

  14. blade3colorado said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    No idea what’s wrong with Anderson, but this is BIG insofar as the Rockies plan to improve their pitching staff. He was supposed to rescue their staff this season. This is major for them, especially with De La Rosa having problems.

  15. WilcoJoe said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    Stay hot Panda Sandoval!

  16. WilcoJoe said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    So much for taking advantage.

  17. DJLoo said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    I love Strong Mandate in the Arkansas Derby. Where’s DMD???

    • blade3colorado said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:39 pm

      The racist? He’s a frickin’ idiot and banned from this site.

      • DJLoo said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:00 pm

        I didn’t know that, Blade. Guess I missed it.

      • blade3colorado said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:02 pm

        Loo, what he said on this site is unprintable and disgusting. That being said, I hope he gets help.

      • ryan said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:05 pm

        yeah, you can’t be an idiot AND a racist here.

      • Flavor said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:13 pm

        you are allowed to be one of them, Ryan. I’ll let you guess which one.

  18. Flavor said, on April 12, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    I was surprised that the Rockies traded for Anderson. I mean, I like him, he’s talented and all, but he’s glass waiting to break. I guess all they saw was “ground ball pitcher”.

    • blade3colorado said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:01 pm

      Flav, the owner wont spend money. In Colorado, Anderson is like their Prince Fielder signing. Last year, it was Wilton Lopez. Seriously. Fast forward today, Lopez was sent to Colorado Springs for remedial training (as I predicted after his meltdown earlier this week).

      • Flavor said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:05 pm

        Not really the same thing. WL was signed as a set up guy possible closer down the road. They traded for Anderson to be a 1/2 starter

      • blade3colorado said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:40 pm

        No, I meant as their main acquisition last year. They didn’t spend more money on any other player.

  19. Flavor said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    Just a disgustingly awesome throw by Arenado. Imagine trying to make that throw.

    • James said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:23 pm

      It seems like he’s involved in half the putouts against SF every time they play the Rockies.

      • Flavor said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:25 pm

        I’m left handed but I might go down to the park later and try to make that throw, just to see how close I come. If I do, I’ll video tape it and upload it here later.

      • James said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:38 pm

        Love to see that!

  20. WilcoJoe said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    Well he had to battle thru a few innings, but all in all, a damn fine performance by Cainer.

  21. Flavor said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    what Zito has been up to:

  22. Flavor said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    this game is starting to irritate the fuck out of me.

    • Flavor said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:30 pm

      just as I say that,….B-Craw

  23. Flavor said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Fucking awful, Panda.

  24. Macdog said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Pablohhhh.

  25. blade3colorado said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    I’m not certain, but I think Chuck said, “Panda is slowly working that contract down to 5 figures.”

  26. James said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    Crawford has 3 doubles (two very well hit) on screw ups in the OF over the last 3 games. Campana, Trumbo, and Cargo.

    • Flavor said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:48 pm

      Morse got Trumbo with a cheapie, did Craw get one too and I missed it?

      • James said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:53 pm

        Bottom of the 4th on Thursday night. It hit off Trumbo’s glove, and is the most debatable as to whether or not to label it a screw up.

  27. Flavor said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    So who tabbed Latroy Hawkins closing for the Rockies in 2014 back in 2005 when he pitched for us?

  28. Flavor said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    Getting shut out by the entire shitty Rockies bullpen is is going to be an embarrassment I’m not sure I’m ready to own. Sanchez remaining.

  29. Flavor said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    Fuck. Latroy Hawkins being alive is a surprise to me much less him fucking closing for the Rockies. I summarily retract my “No Flaccid Bats Around here” thread.

  30. Macdog said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    1 RBI from the position players in two home games vs. Rox.

  31. blade3colorado said, on April 12, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    Humiliating loss.

  32. Flavor said, on April 12, 2014 at 4:00 pm

    If you aren’t rooting for Jimenez tomorrow in The Masters, then you aren’t old. Or you just don’t care about golf. One or the other.

  33. James said, on April 12, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    For me, it’s early enough that Cain’s good performance trumps the shitty loss.

    • blade3colorado said, on April 12, 2014 at 4:06 pm

      Good point James. This bodes well for the long view.

    • WilcoJoe said, on April 12, 2014 at 5:26 pm

      Agreed.

  34. Nipper said, on April 12, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    It’s a long season. This too shall pass.

  35. Roseboro said, on April 12, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    84 wins tops.

    • Flavor said, on April 12, 2014 at 4:49 pm

      Your win prediction is about 11 days late. If Cain shut out the Rockies 1-0 today instead of the other way around would you have posted this?

  36. unca_chuck said, on April 12, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    Blehhhhhhhh. Cain labored and willed his way through the slowest 1-0 game in memory. Maybe it just felt that way. The team flat sucked at the plate. Once Anderson left I had hope. Pablo’s double was followed by nothing. The ice man comets. Or the flaccid man?

    Latroy Hawkins name popped up on the board and I damn near spit my beer out. But at those prices . . .

    Glorious day, but what a draggggggg.

  37. unca_chuck said, on April 12, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    Good to see Cain pitch well, I will say that.


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