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So Far Sandoval Sucks

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on April 29, 2014

Anyone think that The Panda is starting to regret turning down the 3 year/40 million the Giants offered him? From the other side, do you think the Giants would still make that offer today? If so, would he still reject it?

The Giants knew their offer was just a starting point but Panda’s stubborn agent wouldn’t come off the idiotic number he started with (I think it was north of 100 million but don’t feel like looking that up). So when NumNuts refused to budge the Giants said *go fuck yourself* and  now we are where we are. “LimboLand.”

And nearly 100 at bats into the season, Sandoval looks like a guy plugging along full steam ahead on a Six Figure contract drive. And while I normally wouldn’t give a shit about someone I don’t know who screwed themselves out of 40 million offered to them I do have an obvious interest in hoping he starts to hit the baseball again.

It’s still only April.

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  1. dirtnrocksnomo said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:06 am

    Sandoval is obviously pressing. If I was the Giants I would still put that offer out there. If I was Sandoval I would consider taking it. He’s still young enough that 3 years from now he could get something even bigger than the $100M+ he’s reportedly seeking. Dude picked a bad year to get off the flack seed oil.

  2. stickman said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:26 am

    This is the damndest team to figure out. Ace pitcher gets pounded by Walk Away Rene and WS MVP can’t hit for shit ~ and that when he should be tearing the horsehide off the pill in his walk year. Go figure. My thought on Pablo remains that his eye-surgery messed up his vision worse than it was. Add the stress and pressure of playing for a big contract and he’s toast. And now BB9 is in the most intense slump of his career.

    Guess yesterday’s game is one of those 60 or so most every team manages to lose. Nothing else seems to make sense considering 3 GDP’s and being blasted by a guy who probably was more shocked than anyone else on the field that he hit one out vs Bumgarner.

  3. Alleykat said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:27 am

    Yeah he’s definitely pressing,and Bochy’s Press conference stated just that about him and Belt.
    But what the fuck is he supposed to do? Put a shittier hitter in Arias over there who’s hitting a buck and change.

  4. snarkk said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:42 am

    Maybe it’s not in his DNA, but if I were Pablo, I would vow not to swing at shit above the letters. Period. Just.Don’t.Swing. Start there, and look for the rest of the pitches to drive. He probably also leads the team in hitting into double plays. But, focus on one thing at a time, so I guess he can still swing at stuff at toe level…

  5. unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:06 am

    Timmy sorta did the same thing, and he ended up doing alright for himself, contract-wise.

    The only encouraging thing was he at least hit a ball on the screws yesterday. A loud out is better than a popup. Pence was a a similar funnk not too long ago. so there’s hope,

  6. SanDawg said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:09 am

    Yes, I think the Giants still offer 3/40 today, but its getting to the point where it is a fair question.

    Great to see several of you at the game the other night. Its so cool that its easy to have a nice conversation with anyone who shows up to any of these Flap events.
    The deal with Flavor not being able to find the Club level was pretty hilarious. I mean, he seemed totally baffled as to whether we needed to go up, down, right, or left. Obviously, I was equally lost, but I’m not Big Flavor! I compared it to Spinal Tap not being able to find the stage in Cleveland and a random fan appreciated the Tap reference—which was funny.

    Bumgarner is 2 for 6 in the Quality Start category—the worst ratio in the rotation.

    Finally, StickMan and StixWiz are NOT the same guy. I see the similarities and they both post insightful stuff. For starters, while Stickman goes into some detail, StixWiz consistently wrote super long posts. Plus, StixWiz occasionally posted mashed-potato recipes—-which I printed and my family enjoys immensely.
    I think Stickman may be another San Diego guy, but don’t quote me on that one. He is an old poster who has come back to the fold—and I agree it has been good to have him back. I won’t be surprised if StixWiz makes a glorious return at some point as well.

    • snarkk said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:35 am

      Agree with you Dawg, there appear to be two Sticks/Stix. Bum gives up a 5 spot? That’s not good, but S happens. Maybe he’s still finding his motion. Hope so. Channeling James — this team can’t go to the playoffs if the rotation has an over 4 ERA. I was hoping for an improvement to a 3.75 or maybe a little better this year, down from the 4.00 last season. Still doable, but maybe there’s a new arm in the rotation at mid-season…

  7. zumiee said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:51 am

    Pablo’s situation really is surprising. He lost weight before the season, and he’s in a contract year; so just about everyone assumed he would have a strong season. All the cards were lined up for that.
    He needs an adjustment in hitting strategy. “See ball, hit ball” isn’t enough anymore. I know I’m not saying anything new that Pablo hasn’t heard before, but players need to adjust as they get older.

  8. Chipower9 said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:51 am

    I think the Giants would make that 3/40 offer again. And at this juncture…I think Pablo would be a fucking idiot to not take it. The counter from his agent was that they wanted “Pence-like money” or something to that effect (so yes, basically 5/100).

    Sucks to have your “ace” up for the first game of the series, at home, and against one of your division rivals who just took 2 of 3 from you. Gaints definitely need to take the next two/series before that 10 game roady. At least they get a day off before hitting the road, because the next off day is not until May 19th.

    I think the month of May is going to tell us quite a bit about this team. Certain guys not hitting (Pablo, Posey, Pence, etc.) is tough, but they have managed to grind out a winning record. Agree with James and others…the starters MUST get it going…that is the most disconcerting aspect of the team right now, IMO.

  9. zumiee said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:55 am

    Pablo has so much power, it’s frustrating to see him lunge after stuff, out on his front foot. When he lets the pitch get deep, he can really rake.

    • Chipower9 said, on April 29, 2014 at 10:54 am

      Zum – maybe you can call BamBam and share your observations, and let him know there is major concern in Flap Nation. (grin)

  10. James said, on April 29, 2014 at 10:20 am

    The 2012-13 Sandoval may be as good as it gets from here on out. That should be enough for the 2014 offense to do its part.

  11. blade3colorado said, on April 29, 2014 at 10:22 am

    Interesting article which came out today from Jon Heyman of CBS – about Panda, which summarizes the impasse between him and the Giants.

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24539024/panda-seeking-100m-plus-is-testing-giants-record-for-keeping-stars

    Personally, I hope the Giants are firm and don’t over pay. Despite my feelings, it seems that Sandoval has all the cards and he’ll get that $100 gazillion dollar contract he wants when the season ends. Too many deep pocket clubs, including the Dodgers that will show him the money when all is said and done.

    Nevertheless, what ever happened to the principal of merit?

    • Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 10:30 am

      if he keeps hitting a buck sixty (or whatever it is) he ain’t getting no hundred million.

      • Chipower9 said, on April 29, 2014 at 10:56 am

        I would hope the fuck not, but if some team is stupid enough to do so (after a FULL SEASON of sucktitude)…then giddy-up…let them spend their coin foolishly (as long as it is not the Giants throwing that kind of money around foolishly).

    • Chipower9 said, on April 29, 2014 at 10:57 am

      I agree Blade (on the principle of merit comment). You perform, you get acknowledged/paid. That’s the way it should be…

    • Chipower9 said, on April 29, 2014 at 11:11 am

      Good read on the Pablo negotiations (or lack there of). Thanks for sharing, Steve.

    • blade3colorado said, on April 29, 2014 at 11:28 am

      You’re welcome Chi.

  12. gianthead said, on April 29, 2014 at 11:15 am

    I thought 5 years at $75 was a fair price in the off-season. With him struggling, if they put that on the table, I think it is very hard for him to turn down. He may get the Red Sox or Yankees fighting for him, but if the dodgers resign Hanley, he will be playing 3b not short long-term.

    I cant remember the consensus on the Flap whether we think Buster can handle 3rd. I think he would be competent and more so at 3rd than 1b. Then opens up catcher for Hector if he can rake full time and saves Buster’s knees.

    • gianthead said, on April 29, 2014 at 11:24 am

      And if I were Sabean I would say that is my offer and I am done talking. If you can get more, congrats and thanks. If you come back to me after the season ends, we start the conversation at 1 or 2 year deals…

  13. Irish Kevin said, on April 29, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    Hmm…what to do with Pablo?? I think if he continues to hit poorly all the way to the AllStar Break (heaven forbid). He caves to the pressure and signs a contract. There is no way in hell Bochy leaves him in there after the Allstar break if he is still struggling. 2010 all over again for Pablo.

  14. blade3colorado said, on April 29, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    Glad to hear that Sterling got a lifetime ban, $2.5 million fine – the maximum, and steps are being taken to force him to sell the team (3/4 votes necessary from all NBA owners).

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on April 29, 2014 at 12:34 pm

      I agree with Silver’s decision. I assume he consulted with whomever are the most influential owners before this decision but getting it past the other owners is another question.

      • blade3colorado said, on April 29, 2014 at 12:48 pm

        I’ve only heard one owner disagree with Sterling being forced to sell his team. Specifically, Mark Cuban saying, “But regardless of your background, regardless of the history they have, if we’re taking something somebody said in their home and we’re trying to turn it into something that leads to you being forced to divest property in any way, shape or form, that’s not the United States of America. I don’t want to be part of that.”

        Of course, after Silver’s decision, Cuban Tweeted this, “I agree 100% with Commissioner Silvers findings and the actions taken against Donald Sterling.”

        Obviously, Cuban is not consistently taking his Dissociative identity disorder (or multiple personality disorder) medication. :-)

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on April 29, 2014 at 1:15 pm

        Yeah, I heard that Cuban had said that. I can agree that people, specifically owners of teams, shouldn’t have such drastic actions taken against what they believe to be private statements but once it’s out there you can’t really put it back in the bottle. Sterling has been known as a scumbag for quite some time. His underhanded dealings with African American and Latinos in LA is a matter of record. The NBA should have seen this coming. I can only assume they were hoping he’d take the dirt nap before something like this came out.

  15. Alleykat said, on April 29, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    Put Sterling on the Shark Tank and see if he can pitch black jelly beans ..

  16. unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    Cuban usually doesn’t toe the corporate line. He’s had more than his share of feuds and fines with Stern, but it’s kinda hard to side with Sterling in this and not looke like a total douche.

    This should hopefully forestall any shenanigans (read: rioting) in LA tonight.

  17. Irish Kevin said, on April 29, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    Lets face it, racisim is not going away. The first time I remember is when Jimmy the Greek made his comments about blacks and how they breed bigger and stronger males. He was gone from the NFL analyst job. After that the hits just kept on coming. I forget who the golfer was that made some not so cool comments when Tiger won the open and received the green jacket. Lets face it, America is the melting pot of the world. The best advice I have heard is don’t say stupid things into a microphone.

    • Alleykat said, on April 29, 2014 at 3:10 pm

      Dirt,That would be Fuzzy Zoeller
      And he said: “Guess we’re gonna have fried chicken and collared greens and watermelon” for our prestigious dinner!

      • Alleykat said, on April 29, 2014 at 3:45 pm

        Should of been for Kevin..
        Long freakin day!!!

  18. blade3colorado said, on April 29, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    Dirt (or anyone one else), what’s your take on Jason Whitlock’s column, who maintains that Donald Sterling is only a symptom of a larger problem that needs to be addressed. In short, he DISAGREES with the NBA’s action against Sterling. Not certain I agree with him, but it is thought provoking . . .

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10857268/removing-donald-sterling-la-clippers-owner-fix-our-culture

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on April 29, 2014 at 4:06 pm

      I generally think that Whitlock is a good writer and admire his willingness to speak openly and directly about race and the issues that surround it but in this case I don’t think his article is particularly enlightening. We’re all, especially the power structure in the NBA, responsible for the culture that enables a turd like Sterling? Yeah. That’s true but the NBA is just like every business in America. It isn’t obligated to give anyone a seat at the table. We’ve seen Jordan be able to get into the ownership club and if it turns out that Johnson gets the Clippers well, that would be the ultimate irony.

      The biggest thing in my mind about this whole fiasco is the apparent unwillingness of the players to take a moral stand and boycott the games themselves. I agree that it isn’t their fault and they shouldn’t suffer as they obviously would financially not to mention sacrificing their shot at a title but it that is what it would take to create the real change that Whitlock discusses.

      • blade3colorado said, on April 29, 2014 at 4:30 pm

        Yeah, I like Whitlock too. He usually doesn’t follow the herd. However, I don’t think he is being realistic, primarily because a basketball related racial incident is never going to be the “fuse” that begins a change in our racial attitude and culture. Frankly, I’m not certain anything will ever be a catalyst for that type of change, as even the 1960s civil rights movement failed to eliminate discrimination . . . Don’t get me wrong, things are much better today versus back then and certainly better then things were during slavery. However, I think discrimination is alive and well all over this country, except it is discreet and more subtle.

        I digress though – I agree with your point about the players Dirt. I am scratching my head trying to figure out why these players are so shallow . . . Especially when you consider the sacrifices that their parents and grandparents made in the 1960s and 1950s. I think Jim Brown is spot on when he says Michael Jordan and other players today only care about “getting theirs” and fuck the rest of the world. Sad.

      • unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 4:31 pm

        This is the crux of the biscuit.

        “Instead, the mainstream fanned the flames, enraging the angry black mob looking for a quick solution, a sacrificial lamb — and now, by the end of the week, we’ll be back to business as usual, pretending the stoning of Sterling harmed the culture that created him.”

        Blaming this on the media is bullshit. Is there a good old boys network in the NBA? Yes, but it is the most diverse ownership group of all the pro sports. Yeah, Sterling’s an anachronism. He got caught with his pants down, figuratively of course. The problem with this is it WAS private talk, but there’s no way to unleak it. Like Matt Ronmey’s 49% speech, once the genie’s out, there’s no going back. Is it unfair? Sure. But a guy like Sterling has been casting racial slurs around for years. He was nailed by the DOJ for discriminatory rental practices among many other episodes.

        The reality of this is, if Silver did little to nothing, there would be rioting in the streets of LA at the Staples Center tonight. Which is very close to South Central. This really is nothing more than window dressing, but the ramiofications will coalesce over time. The new reality for Sterling is sponsors are pulling out of supporting the Clippers. I think you can cross off the Clippers as a landing place for free agents. And who knows how the fans will respond to this. This will hurt his bottom line, and lower the value of the team. But not in any significant way. So, he’ll just ride this bitch out.

        I really don’t think the owners will force him to sell. It sets a bad precedent for the rest of them. And if they do, he will litigate the shit out of it til he dies.

        But the main reason for the Sterling/Silver deal here is to avoid riots at the Staples Center.

        Expect a BIG police presence at the place tonight.

      • blade3colorado said, on April 29, 2014 at 5:11 pm

        Chuck, spot on regarding your “what if” rioting scenario – had Silver not meted out timely and maximum punishment before tonight’s game. Yeah, I have no doubt that rioting in South Central L.A. would have occurred this evening.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on April 29, 2014 at 7:23 pm

        Blade, I agree with Brown on that point. It is interesting to me that he spoke out as an owner after not standing for anything but money as a player (not that I blame him).

    • Irish Kevin said, on April 29, 2014 at 4:49 pm

      That is an interesting take from a African American. The point that I took from the article is that racism is still here and that as long as white men rule, racism will not be going away anytime soon. I will bet money that someday down the road the Dallas Cowboy owner will make some derogatory remark and be crucified in the press. I will confess that in the privacy of my own vehicle that I have made racist remarks about the drivers that cut me off or caused me to break hard. So what do we do with our racism. Well, Germany had it. Are there still some Germans that hate the Jews?? Probably. If some rich German industrialist made a comment about Jews what would happen in the world mob court? individually it is much easier to accept someone. But as a group, very difficult. sad but true.

      • unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 5:39 pm

        Actually for all the loathing I have for Jerry Jones, he came up playing football and was a pretty good offensive lineman in college. I don;t think he’s racist at all.

  19. Bozo said, on April 29, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    Sterling bought the team for millions it’s now worth billions, why would you want to reward the fuck by making him sell?

    Panda will go to an AL team if the Giants don’t sign him. I would like Buster to be the catcher for a few more years, so I’m thinking the Giants should offer Pablo a two year deal (3rd year option) at $40 mil now and see if he takes it.

    Baseball is a marathon not a sprint. It’s just the end of April, no worries here.

    Back to Festing.

  20. unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    If Panda feels the same way (re marathon vs sprint) then there’s absolutely no reason for him to sign a shitty deal now.

  21. paulinasia said, on April 29, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    So, we’ve got a rich old white guy who owns a basketball team and is living the high life and telling his mistress to not bring “them” (African-Americans) to the games. And then there’s that other rich old white guy cattle rancher out west, talking about the problem with “Negroes”. We know about these two guys because they’re rich old white guys who either the network media or social media will cover…. because they’re rich old white guys. Think of all the other rich old white guys or, even worse, poor old white guys (likely watching Fox News), who aren’t being covered who feel the same way. Hate to say it, but racism isn’t “old”, as Kemp said the other day… it’s current. And also hate to say it, but I wonder if it’s even more prevalent than we thought because “whiteys” are slowly losing their majority status in the US. Will it get better or will it get worse the more the US becomes “less white”? Most people I know in life do not think this way. Probably the same with all of you. So, who the f–k are all these imbeciles? Really hope it’s a small minority of Americans.

    • unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 5:42 pm

      Right. It’s like Nixon’s ‘silent majority’ who supported the Vietnam war.

      You really hope they stay silent, but aren’t the majority.

    • paulinasia said, on April 29, 2014 at 5:51 pm

      Or like Falwell’s “Moral Majority”, who were neither moral nor the majority…

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on April 29, 2014 at 7:25 pm

      It’s not a small minority of American though Paul.

  22. Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    I actually like the idea of NOT making him sell. The main thing Sterling cares about, besides cashing revenue sharing checks, is going to the games and having everyone kiss his ring (figuratively). If you ban him for life and never let him into another NBA game again it might literally kill him.
    Something I was wondering today (and then found out later on the internet that others have wondered about it too). If Magic ultimately buys the team doesn’t it look a little shady that this girlfriend chick, who is a friend of Magic’s, records all this with obvious baiting questions and then Sterling gets forced to sell the team…..to Magic?

    • unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 5:40 pm

      Diabolical. Half a billion though.

      • Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 6:40 pm

        oh, that team will sell for 1 billion.book it. He bought it for 12 mil

    • paulinasia said, on April 29, 2014 at 5:44 pm

      Or, like that bet between the brokerage brothers in Trading Places, make him sell it for $1.

  23. paulinasia said, on April 29, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    Re: Pablo, Stickman said earlier that he wonders if Sandoval’s eye surgery messed things up more than it corrected. “See the ball, hit the ball” wouldn’t work anymore if he can’t actually see the ball… I’d guess it is more likely that he’s pressing. Maybe Pablo would be the exception to the “contract year” axiom and maybe he’d actually perform better feeling signed and secure. Whatever; it’s puzzling, and the team does need his bat.

  24. Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    Kareem had a pretty epic take on this in his blog today:
    “Man, what a winding road she led him down to get all of that out,” he mocked. “She was like a sexy nanny playing ‘pin the fried chicken on the Sambo.’ She blindfolded him and spun him around until he was just blathering all sorts of incoherent racist sound bites that had the news media peeing themselves with glee.”
    That is just a fantastic paragraph.

    • paulinasia said, on April 29, 2014 at 6:01 pm

      Agree.

  25. Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    Cain scratched with a cut on his finger, Petit to go

  26. zumiee said, on April 29, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    Baggs says Cain cut his finger on a knife.
    Another reminder that a lot of baseball players aren’t rocket scientists.

    • blade3colorado said, on April 29, 2014 at 6:51 pm

      Or chefs.

      • zumiee said, on April 29, 2014 at 6:53 pm

        He “affeldted” himself.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on April 29, 2014 at 7:06 pm

        yes, Affeldted…Loo can chime in on this. Years ago, the Mets’ Bobby Ojeda did a number on his pitching hand via electric hedge clippers. Can’t these guys hire folks to get injured on their behalf? (Kidding. I’m kidding. Or as Don Rickles would say to Carson, Johnny, we kid.)

  27. Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    goddamn I wish both teams had done this tonight. It woulda been epic.

    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/thompson/2014/04/29/warriors-had-the-blueprint-for-a-dramatic-boycott-ready-to-go/

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on April 29, 2014 at 7:25 pm

      Me too. I imagine JJ Reddick and D Lee are feeling like Peter Norman.

  28. pawliekokonuts said, on April 29, 2014 at 7:03 pm

    It’s only April, and as RHP T.S. Eliot famously said, April is the cruelest month.

  29. pawliekokonuts said, on April 29, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    Just back from seeing/hearing author Neil Gaiman. Delightful.

  30. Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    Ron Washington just dumbfucked his way out of a challenge in the A’s game. No WAY were they gonna overturn that. I’d like to know the % of wins on challenges so far. It seems like it’s 60% or so. And the way a manager used to come out spewing a venomous argument in the direction of the umpire like he’s 100% correct on the call he’s arguing, well, replay is making them look a little stupid if you ask me…..

  31. snarkk said, on April 29, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    Can somebody tell me why a guy with a $20M a year contract ($600K per start) is wielding a knife while cutting meat or sandwiches or an apple a few hours before his start? Isn’t there a clubhouse chef dude whose job it is to do that? I don’t understand this bullshit of pitchers making millions who make a living with their hands and fingers wielding knives during the season, hell, in the clubhouse before a game. Does Buddy Guy cut a ration of salami with a butcher knife right before a gig, does Dr. John play a rousing game of mumbly peg with roadies before going on stage? WTF?…

    • Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 7:34 pm

      fantastic point. Also, why do any of them ever get behind a wheel of a car after boozing all night? Just hire a driver for the year. What’s that cost, 80K or so? Beats a DUI or killing someone while DUI

    • James said, on April 29, 2014 at 7:36 pm

      Ah but what torment that bottom of the first was for Poor Matty, the Great Unsupported One.

      • James said, on April 29, 2014 at 7:38 pm

        I love that (Edit) link . . . .

  32. Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    I think the Dubs lose by 20 tonight…..

    • willedav said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:03 pm

      every game is different. I do think owners close ranks and say Sterling has to go. He’s too much of an embarrassment and distraction from the product especially at playoff time. Right or wrong they can’t be seen to support anything less I don’t think.

  33. DJLoo said, on April 29, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Do you think SNL does a a little comedy sketch on Sterling this week?

  34. Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    how great would it be if Sterling made it past security and just stumbled on to the court mid first Q hollering incoherently ala Dennis Hopper in Hoosiers? That would be my SNL skit and it would be epic and I’d be fired that night. He kinda looks like a fat, older Hopper, he could pull it off….

    • DJLoo said, on April 29, 2014 at 7:56 pm

      Outstanding!

  35. DJLoo said, on April 29, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    Crazy Horse will lead off the ASG.
    Book it.

  36. DJLoo said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    I have yet to see a shot of Baer in his seat actually watching the game.

    • Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:08 pm

      he’s got a fetish that will probably not start going viral in the fetish underworld: hand shaking.

  37. zumiee said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    Cain is none too pleased to be missing the game. Earlier in the game, he flipped a bird at a camera close-up. He wasn’t smiling, and he wasn’t trying to be funny. I wonder if he’ll catch any flak for his birdy.

    • Alleykat said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:20 pm

      He’s probably more pissed on how it my effect his golf game.

  38. Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    So all of a sudden the Giants are stacked with stud SP? Voggy back on track, Petit rocking it, Huddy, Cain, Bummy, Timmy….Who’s got it better than us? NOOOOOOOOOObo…um….nevermind.

  39. Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    Cainer’s finger to us all…

    • zumiee said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:30 pm

      I was wrong- there is a little bit of a smile there. :)

      • Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:31 pm

        not much. And I agree with you. Not sure what he was thinking there, it wasn’t funny and you don’t flip off a fanbase watching the game on tv with kids watching.

      • SanDawg said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:47 pm

        Kind of reminds me of the time he doffed his cap at Shea walking off the field shortly after drilling David Wright in the head. I think he claimed he was paying respect to a group of Giant fans that traveled to the game, but it came off at least looking like a total prick move.

  40. Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    Tomorrow’s thread: Timmy or Petity? Vote with your heart, not your brain.

    • zumiee said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:36 pm

      I’m lovin’ Petit’s game tonight. Pitches are generally down in the strikezone. He’s working quickly. Excellent National League ball.

  41. zumiee said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    I can only lqtm at Morse’s walk-up music. A-ha? Seriously? I get that it’s meant to be ironic, but still….
    The best walk-up music of any current player, IMO, is the music used by Van Slyke of the Dodgers. Led Zep’s “When The Levee Breaks.” Pretty cool choice.

    • James said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:51 pm

      Too bad he ain’t a Van Dyke.

      • zumiee said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:54 pm

        :)

  42. zumiee said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    Pawlie, very cool you got to go to a Neil Gaiman event. I’ve read several of his books.

  43. SanDawg said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    Down here, Denorfia uses “Metal Health” by Quiet Riot, which I dig. Bad band, but a cool heavy riff IMO.

    Zum–that bookstore on Clement in SF I recommend you check out is called Green Apple Books. And that poorly written, but entertaining book I mentioned is called Baseball Legends and Legacies by Gary Hall.

    • Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:55 pm

      I still remember walking through the halls of Jordan Junior High blasting “Metal Health” on my Sony Walkman thinking I was the baddest motherfucker in the world…….

      • SanDawg said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:59 pm

        I thought you were the baddest motherfucker in the world too until you couldn’t find the Club Level at ATT…

      • SanDawg said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:59 pm

        Hello Cleveland!!

      • Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:05 pm

        Ouch. Yet I still continue to live, I am still Big Flavor…Conspiracy?

      • SanDawg said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:08 pm

        The fact that we’ve milked quite a few laughs about the incident just adds to your legend.

    • zumiee said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:57 pm

      Thanks, SanDawg! I’ll jot all that down.

    • James said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:59 pm

      Green Apple is excellent. Recently scored a nice remaindered compilation of BOMP magazine there. Miss Adobe Books on 16th. 2 buck chuck and just a huge mess of books.

  44. unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    NBA reffing is absolutely a joke. The Dubs are playing tough but they can’t overcome the zebras. Lee gets a foul for boxing out on a rebound, and DeAndre Jordan hits both his arms on a layup and no foul. Green had 2 imaginary fouls in the firest 4 mibnutes, which led to the Clips taking a 12 point lead.

  45. Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    I don’t listen to this music anymore, but I loved this song as a kid. It’s an epic song, it should have 10 million views, not a 100K

  46. DJLoo said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    Don’t knock that A-ha song. It’s an ’80’s classic.

    Ellis Burks once admitted this was his favorite song:

    • Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:07 pm

      when I couldn’t navigate me and San Diggity to the Club level at the game, I felt like this singer…without a keyboard. Or a band.

    • blade3colorado said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:08 pm

      That song is worse then being sentenced to Guantanamo.

  47. zumiee said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    Well, I shouldn’t comment on music. I know I can be an insufferable snob when it comes to what I think is good in music.

    • SanDawg said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:12 pm

      Give me your unvarnished, snobbish opinion on Ween, Zumie. The buddy I drove out to Modesto with the day after the game subjected me to Ween the entire way up and again on the way back to SFO. I gotta admit I was starting to dig their stuff after a few spins.
      Any Ween fans out there?

      • zumiee said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:19 pm

        I can appreciate Ween, although I never bought any of their stuff. I could have liked their music more had I heard it at a different time. I was really into the Seattle grunge music at that time, and by comparison Ween seemed kind of light-weight to me. Although I wouldn’t think that way now. I was also really into Radiohead at that time, too, and other overly self-consciously serious music. :)

  48. James said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    Machi, with no chance for the W, should have told ‘em to find another arm tonight.

  49. unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    The thing I never got was ‘Quiet’ in their name. Who wants a quiet riot?

    And if you give them props you have to give props to the band that they owed their success to:

    Slade

  50. zumiee said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    Music-related news: did you all catch the news that Paul Simon and wife Edie Brickell were both arrested in a domestic dispute? They apparently got in a shoving match at home, and Edie’s mom called 911. That marriage always seemed kind of strange anyway. They’re telling the media everything’s fine between them.

    • SanDawg said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:14 pm

      I say we fine him $2.5 mill and bar him from ever performing again!

    • Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:15 pm

      I did see that. No details given till this post. Thanks. Yeah, and throw Steve Martin into the mix (I truly think he loves making music with Edie Brickell more than anything else he’s ever done in his life) and you have some unusual troubled waters traveling under that weird bridge………

  51. unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    He married Edie Brickell?

    • Flavor said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:16 pm

      haha, like 2o years ago

  52. unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    No shit.

    Again the refs are doing all they can to keep the Clips ahead.

  53. unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    Wow. Nice play by Crawfish.

  54. unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    I can’t watch these guys. The Dubs are amazinly ignoring Curry and they are playinglazy as fuck.

  55. unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    Yet somehow they stick around.

  56. pawliekokonuts said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:32 pm

    Petit earn a starting slot?

    • unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:41 pm

      Not with Vogie’s last start. TImmy’s getting more rope.

  57. blade3colorado said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    Loved her debut album with the Bohemians, Shooting Rubberbands at the Stars,including her hit single “What I Am” . . . Fast forward after her debut album, nothing, pfffttt, zero, nada hits. Very disappointing.

  58. unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:43 pm

    And the Dubs take the lead! For 8 seconds.

  59. unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    Good to see the Giants take care of things. Matty misses out on some nice run support.

  60. snarkk said, on April 29, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    Maybe Cain should cut another finger before his next start…

  61. snarkk said, on April 29, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    I was going through the above posts and saw that vid of Cain with the FU finger. WTF was that all about — trying to show his cut? Cain’s getting a little chippy, it seems. Not cool on TV, especially for the supposed squeaky clean staff “Horse”. I can’t remember any SF pitcher doing that knowingly into a camera…

  62. unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    Jeeesus. Dubs go into vapor lock. 4 turnovers with under 4 minutes. That’s how you cut into the lead.

    • snarkk said, on April 29, 2014 at 10:18 pm

      Dubs commit entirely too many turnovers, Curry is a main culprit. Doing it all season. He’s got 8 tonight, and weirdly the team’s only got 12 total. Don’t know how many points the Clips have off the TOs…

      • unca_chuck said, on April 29, 2014 at 10:22 pm

        Yup. Clips did a great job of not letting him get free.

      • snarkk said, on April 29, 2014 at 10:25 pm

        I only saw the first half. Dubs were running the break the whole game on Sunday at Oracle, this one they were doing half court sets. Curry’s not going to get shots that way, and Jordan is a huge factor with no Bogut in a half court game…


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