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Dr Timmy or Mr Lincecum?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on May 17, 2014

Which Timmy will we see today? Do we get dominant, pitching into the 8th inning with 11k’s Timmy? Or do we get 5 innings of laboring, casting-off-sliders Timmy?

Wind is blowing out at 14mph tonight….

It’s possible that this is just who he is now. No longer capable of dominant performances for 30+ starts a year, but able to hump up on night’s he’s feelin’ it.

This would not be a good weekend for Timmy and Voggy to lose their location…..

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  1. dirtnrocksnomo said, on May 17, 2014 at 9:16 am

    The L last night was a bummer but it’s nice to have hope of a comeback when the other team scores more than 3 runs. I’m going with Lincecum giving up 4 runs over 5 2/3. Paging Dr Timmy. Dr Timmy, white courtesy phone….

    • James said, on May 17, 2014 at 9:23 am

      Dirt, those numbers put him at about the 1 minute mark:

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on May 17, 2014 at 2:37 pm

        Haha, good one James. Hard to believe that Lincecum used to take the mound and people considered it an automatic W. For the most part anyways.

  2. snarkk said, on May 17, 2014 at 9:32 am

    Timmy better find some command tonight. These Marlins are mashers. Apprehensive I am…

  3. snarkk said, on May 17, 2014 at 9:38 am

    Mark Jackson back to ESPN. 5 openings for NBA head coaches, he heads back to the microphone with no interviews? Hmmm…

  4. blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2014 at 9:44 am

    Well, in Fantasy circles, Timmy is a great “streaming” option today, albeit, in all the leagues I am in, he was picked up on the waiver wire when I checked this morning. The pitcher’s projected “Game Score,” from Bill James’ original formula, which accounts for past history (three years’ worth as well as past 21 days), opponent and ballpark – a “Game Score” of 50 typically is typically regarded as a quality start and Timmy is rated a 53.

    One site (ESPN) had this to say about Lincecum’s chances today:

    “Tim Lincecum has not been very good this year, as evidenced by his 4.78 ERA and 1.55 WHIP in eight starts, but he can be valuable if you know when to pick your spots with him. He was a fine streaming option in his last start against the Atlanta Braves (7 2/3 innings of one-run ball, with 11 strikeouts), and that’s the case again Saturday against the Miami Marlins. The Marlins offense has surprised some people this season, posting a .320 wOBA mark that ranks eighth in baseball. However, the team’s offense has struggled mightily on the road, posting a .285 wOBA, the fourth-lowest mark in baseball. Plus, the Marlins have struck out 23 percent of the time this season (bottom-five in the majors), so the former Cy Young award winner shouldn’t have trouble racking up the K’s here. Still a free agent in about 60 percent of ESPN leagues, Lincecum is a strong streaming option this weekend.”

    In my opinion, Timmy wins today. :-)

    • James said, on May 17, 2014 at 10:31 am

      The science has advanced so far, it just dazzles old timers like me. ;-) Yet OPS still can’t make the ATT scoreboard. Of course they do post the OBP and SP. Maybe it’s the Giants respecting their fans, keeping our math skills sharp between the kiss cam and kayak race spectacles.

  5. stickman said, on May 17, 2014 at 10:12 am

    Been figuring we see a split series. Had Hudson been up to it we probably would have walked off with a “W” last night. Against hard-hitting teams like Miami, Petit is just adequate at best as a spot starter. Last night he simply could not get out of trouble and Casilla proved mortal. So we take one of these next two. Which one is anybody’s guess. Last Season the Fish owned SF at McCovey Cove. A split this go-round would be a decided improvement over that disaster.

  6. blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2014 at 10:31 am

    Call me crazy, but I am going to insert Colvin into my daily $15K Sat MLB Squeeze Fan Duel lineup today (Prizes: include 1st: $2,000, 2nd: $1,000) . . . Sho’ me da money Tyler!*

    * It will be my luck that Bochy sits him today and I’ll be scrambling to find a replacement before the 5:05pm entry deadline.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on May 17, 2014 at 2:38 pm

      Hope you’re scrambling,blade.

      Pagan CF
      Pence RF
      Sandoval 3B
      Morse 1B
      Sanchez C
      Blanco LF
      Hicks 2B
      Crawford SS
      Lincecum RHP

      • blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2014 at 3:51 pm

        Thanks Dirt . . . You have a fixed “fictional” salary cap and I really had to scrape the barrel to come up with Colvin, so getting a replacement at his bottom feeder level was difficult . . . but not impossible. In fact, Delmon Young was available at the same $2200 salary (again, this is what Fan Duel sets his salary at) and ironically, his SABER stats for this evening’s game against Danny Duffy of Kansas is outstanding. In short, I am glad I had to move Colvin based upon his stats vs. Young.

        Flavor, thank you as well . . . got the text.

  7. James said, on May 17, 2014 at 11:53 am

    I guess Michael Sam is instead wisely holding out for a segment on Episode 8 of Ken Burns’ inevitable documentary on gay history and life in America.

  8. Bozo said, on May 17, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    Big Flavor. always ahead of his peers.

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/athletics/baseball-wonders-why-pitchers-elbows-keep-tearing

  9. blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    No idea why Bochy is sitting Posey. He rakes against pitchers like Koehler (Batting .353 in 17 ABs vs. hard throwing right handed pitchers this year). Head scratcher.

    • snarkk said, on May 17, 2014 at 4:01 pm

      They don’t want Posey getting beat up catching Lincecum in a night game tonight with a day game tomorrow. The wussification of Posey continues…

      • blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2014 at 4:05 pm

        Snarkk, I’m hanging low this evening, so I will check on the San Jose Giants schedule later and get back with you. Any other Flappers wanting to attend a San Jose Giants game some time next week, give me a shout. I will post the game we are tentatively going to here at the Flap. I know Zumiee and Chi expressed interest, but more the merrier as the saying goes . . .

      • zumiee said, on May 17, 2014 at 4:26 pm

        The Giants said at the beginning of the season they were going to give Posey more true days off this season, and they’re sticking with that. They feel it’ll make him stronger in August and September. It’s tough to lose his bat from the lineup, but they’re sticking with it.

  10. Flavor said, on May 17, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    With Fielder sitting, Hunter takes over current MLB consecutive games played streak (tonight is 215)

    • blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2014 at 4:30 pm

      Just my take, but Fielder is kaput, finished, dead, done, doomed and any other related synonyms you can think of. Both Detroit and Texas made monumental mistakes in opening up the vault for him. Yeah, they are saying that Fielder has been bothered by neck soreness all season, but I don’t totally buy it. What happened last season? All of his hitting stats have gone down the last few years. He should have been raking in the middle of that Texas line up and playing at their band box stadium, yet his season has been putrid. You have to salute him for playing that streak of 505 games, but I think it’s all down hill for the most part going forward.

      • Flavor said, on May 17, 2014 at 4:31 pm

        agreed. His size has to be having an effect on him too. He makes Pablo (fat, not today’s version) look like Freddie Patek (or what my minds eye imagines Loo to look like).

      • blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2014 at 4:34 pm

        LOL. :-)

    • DJLoo said, on May 17, 2014 at 4:36 pm

      Consecutive game streaks are nothing but albatrosses to the player, manager, and team. Pence should take a day off here and there for the good of everyone.

      • snarkk said, on May 17, 2014 at 5:18 pm

        Absolutely agree. The other day when blade and I were at the park for the 10-4 win, Pence goes out to field in the 9th with the team up by 6. Why? Somebody could have taken RF for an inning. What if the $90 Million Pence separates a shoulder running into the arcade wall in the last inning of a laugher? Nonsensical IMO…

      • blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2014 at 5:22 pm

        Yes, I recall us discussing this. Good point LOO, Snarkk.

  11. zumiee said, on May 17, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    Bochy gaffed on that double-switch last night. It didn’t make any sense bringing in Adrianza so he could bat in the 9th spot to lead off the bottom of the 9th inning, with Sanchez still available to pinch-hit. Then Bochy pinch-hit Sanchez for Adrianza anyway, which just used up Adrianza for no reason. It ended up not being a big deal, because the game didn’t go extra innings, but it could have been a big deal. When Miller questioned the whole thing, Krukow tried to cover for Bochy a little by saying that Bochy probably changed his mind and decided not to let Adrianza bat when the Marlin one-run lead became a two-run lead, but that makes even less sense, since Sanchez could tie the game with one swing of the bat, and Krukow knows that. It should have been Sanchez to bat in the 9th spot no matter what, all the way. It wouldn’t have killed Krukow to be a little critical of Bochy in that situation. Bochy’s a great manager, but nobody’s perfect.

    • Flavor said, on May 17, 2014 at 4:34 pm

      he made a bunch of bonehead moves last year too but all in all, especially considering the other managers out there (it’s not that I dislike the Dodgers, I really do think Mattingly is a bad manager) I still consider him the best manager in baseball…..

      • DJLoo said, on May 17, 2014 at 4:52 pm

        It must be hard to stay completely focused all game every single day. Think of yourselves at your jobs…

      • Flavor said, on May 17, 2014 at 5:05 pm

        noticing you didn’t use yourself as an example. :)

      • snarkk said, on May 17, 2014 at 5:19 pm

        That’s what Wotus is for, stopping Bochy from making a dumb move. When a rare one is made, it’s passed by the agreement of two coaches, not just Bochy…

      • Nipper said, on May 17, 2014 at 6:29 pm

        job?

  12. unca_chuck said, on May 17, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    Am I the only one that gets the who reference in the thread title?

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on May 17, 2014 at 5:59 pm

      No

  13. zumiee said, on May 17, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    Remarkable event in Arizona: Kershaw got PASTED tonight. Knocked out of the game in the second inning, giving up 7 earned runs. His ERA is now over 4.

    • Flavor said, on May 17, 2014 at 6:19 pm

      it’s unreal. Maybe the back is still bothering him. He has NEVER had an outing like this

    • Nipper said, on May 17, 2014 at 6:29 pm

      Sounds just great to me.

      • Flavor said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:37 pm

        Nip– you keep it real. I know you miss Twin, I think we all do, but your blog persona never changes. Something to be said for that.

  14. paulinasia said, on May 17, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    Yeah, Chuck and Dirt, when I first read the title of Craig’s thread, Quadrophenia is what immediately came to mind… Timmy: “When I’m pilled, you don’t notice him”… hah. Let Timmy smoke indeed…. :-)

  15. blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    Snarkk, Zum, and anyone else who wants to see the SJ Giants play Visalia . . . I am leaning toward Friday (7pm start time) or Saturday (5pm start time). I’m easy regarding either one . . .

    • zumiee said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:13 pm

      Unfortunately, Blade, it turns out it’s not going to work out for me to go. I had a bunch of previous commitments that I couldn’t get changed. Sorry about that.

      • blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:41 pm

        No biggie Zum . . . I know I told you at the game I would try to do it the following week, but I didn’t realize that I would be gone by Tuesday. LOL. :-)

  16. paulinasia said, on May 17, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    Well, since not much is happening in the game or here… and not that anybody cares, but when The Who did their Quadrophenia tour in the US in the Fall of ’73, I was a junior in high school. I slept in line overnight outside the old Spectrum in Philly for tickets. 5th row center. Great show. C’mon, G’s, get some hits.

  17. willedav said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    wow, Stanton has absolutely crushed two balls tonite. Giants best smash turned into 1-3 put out.

    Kinda funny that as soon as Kruk was raving about a pitch from Huff, Stanton explodes on the next one.

  18. zumiee said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    Blanco’s approach just sometimes doesn’t make sense to me. Runners on first and third and he’s up there swinging like Babe Ruth and striking out. It just doesn’t work for him. He’s hit a few homeruns in the past, but it really shouldn’t be his approach. Last night he flared one to leftfield for a big hit; that ought to be his approach, most of the time. Mix in a few bunt basehit attempts, that’ll get the thirdbaseman creeping in, then slap it by him. Dee Gordon’s doing that really well. Brett Butler made a living doing that, too.

    • unca_chuck said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:28 pm

      I thought the same damn thing. Think slapping a base hit, not tying the score. Pagan better be OK . . .

  19. zumiee said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    I’m a big Who fan, but have not listened to Quadrophenia as much as some of the other albums. Great, great band. I got to see them in concert a few times; although not during their prime, they were still putting on an awesome show.

  20. zumiee said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    After roughing up Kershaw, the D-Backs later tagged Withrow for 4 runs. That ain’t easy to do.

    • Flavor said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:35 pm

      clearly, they had some pent up offense to release.

  21. unca_chuck said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    Man, I wore that album out a couple times. Saw ‘em in 76, 80, and 82. The day on the green with teh Clash was incredible. The Who and the Dead weren’t bad either.

  22. unca_chuck said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    This game turned to shit after Hicks missed 1st base on the double. Can’t really believe they overturned the non-call.

  23. unca_chuck said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    And keeps getting shittier.

  24. blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    WTF is Kruk jabbering about? That was an error on Pence all the way. Even Pence would be the first to admit he fucked up on that fly. Sheesh, the homerism of K & K is bad.

  25. paulinasia said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    Just looks like one of those dead-ass kind of games that happen periodically. As long as it’s only *periodically*. Don’t want to see a losing streak, need to pick it up tomorrow…

    • blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:42 pm

      Yeah, no energy to the team this evening.

  26. unca_chuck said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    Yeah. Got to get the split. At least the Dogs and sherpas are losing . . .

  27. paulinasia said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    Last thread I mentioned all of the shut-outs last night for home teams, 6 of ‘em, I think. This game would’ve fit right in.

  28. Macdog said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    There isn’t a fan base I know of that doesn’t think the Marlins are a big pain in the ass.

  29. willedav said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    Maybe Hector shoves both Blanco and Colvin to the bench…Posey at 1b and Morse in LF

  30. zumiee said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    Not catching breaks tonight.

    • zumiee said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:57 pm

      Dodgers and Rockies both losing are breaks, certainly, though.

  31. willedav said, on May 17, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    Dang that’s messed up. Guy on 3b, all you have to do is hit the ball in the air. Instead two balls that don’t leave the IF. Craw leads team in sac flies, and he’s also near top of team rbi lead.

  32. zumiee said, on May 17, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    I didn’t like Posey’s AB because he kept getting jammed. There was an AB last night where he got the bat sawed off. He needs to lay off pitches that are off the plate inside.

  33. zumiee said, on May 17, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    On the other hand, flip over to the Dodger game and SMILE. :) :) :)

  34. zumiee said, on May 17, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    Nice first day for La Russa, after getting hired for the D-Backs front office.

    • unca_chuck said, on May 17, 2014 at 10:52 pm

      Speaking of guys I never ever liked . . .

      • Nipper said, on May 18, 2014 at 8:04 am

        ARF!

      • blade3colorado said, on May 18, 2014 at 11:32 am

        Put me down for two of what you’re having Chuck . . . Can’t stand La Russa either. Two faced, hypocritical, lying sack of shit. Nipper alluded to one of his only good qualities, he does a lot of work for animal rights and the humane society. He still sucks though in my book. So, just got back from the gym with Flavor and he did his 2 curls and jetted off somewhere. Grin . . . Regardless of his light weight lifting regimen, he did save my bacon with regard to Fan Duel today. I was starting a catcher (Ruiz) who apparently is sitting today. Glad I had the smart phone at the gym . . . Totally spent after a 2 hour work out, but am glad I did it. Thanks Flavor!
        :-)

  35. willedav said, on May 18, 2014 at 7:44 am

    Cain Petit Lincecum all lit up, mostly early, by marlins so far this weekend. Hmmnn..Marlins had been terrible on road all year, now have 3 out of 4 after getaway day W in LA. They gotta feel good going into today.

    On the Hicks play, aren’t batters headed for extra bases taught to swing wide as you approach 1b and then hit inside of the bag? Just looked weird where his right foot was going by the outside of 1b. Fatal error as it turned out.

    • snarkk said, on May 18, 2014 at 11:47 am

      Lincecum gave up 3 in 6, not great, but he wasn’t creamed. This is what you get with him these days. Cain gave up 4 early. I don’t see a lot of difference between Cain and Lincecum these days. You can’t win if you don’t score….

  36. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2014 at 8:13 am

    I don’t think he missed the bag conclusively though.

  37. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2014 at 8:14 am

    Woulda really sucked to lose a home run on that.

  38. pete said, on May 18, 2014 at 9:19 am

    Fish like it here. Think they have won 12 of last 14 at phone.

  39. snarkk said, on May 18, 2014 at 11:53 am

    Pagan out with jammed shoulder, had an MRI, no conclusions on it yet.
    Scutaro in Miami to have “blood spinning” procedure, per Pavlovic. For what and injected where, no details, as usual. Bochy said eventually they might use him as PH. Sounds like he’s gone for the season, I’d guess he MIGHT show up in September…

  40. snarkk said, on May 18, 2014 at 11:55 am

    Sacramento River Cats turning into Giants?

    http://www.sfgate.com/athletics/article/Triple-A-River-Cats-want-to-switch-to-Giants-5486909.php

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on May 18, 2014 at 1:03 pm

      I’ve always thought this would make sense for the Giants. Or even Reno as there are a bunch of Giants fans there and the stadium is great. As the article mentions this would really be sticking it to Oakland. I can see Baer doing something like this, taking more Northern Ca and Bay Area fan territory.

    • chipower9 said, on May 18, 2014 at 1:50 pm

      Get it done…would love to see the Cats become Giants affiliates. Living less than an hour from Sacto, I have always wanted to see the Giants AAA club in Sac.

    • blade3colorado said, on May 18, 2014 at 2:01 pm

      Added bonus would be getting rid of Fresno. You have to watch the first two minutes of this video . . . It says all you need to know about FRESNO. :-)

  41. snarkk said, on May 18, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    Larussa must have gotten tired of answering replay review questions, and/or attending ARF events where he was taking photos with lots of mutts…

  42. dirtnrocksnomo said, on May 18, 2014 at 12:57 pm

    Quote from Belt over at the Merc regarding his hand in a cast. I laughed.

    “There are three things that are really tough to do when you have no dominant hand, I’m not telling you one of them,” Belt said. “The other two are brushing your teeth and putting on your socks and shoes.”

    As a kid I broke three fingers and some of the bones in my hand in a bike crash on my way to play baseball. It sucked.

  43. zumiee said, on May 18, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    Small ball! It has its place, too! :)

  44. zumiee said, on May 18, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    No Stanton in their lineup? I’m not sure why the young guy needs a day off, but I’m not complaining.

  45. zumiee said, on May 18, 2014 at 1:38 pm

    Alright, SF starting pitching, I gave you a vote of confidence the other day; let’s get a shut-down inning here!

  46. chipower9 said, on May 18, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    Good start so far. Keep the pedal to the metal, and get a split with the Fish and winning home stand before heading to Mt. Sherpa…

  47. willedav said, on May 18, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    meanwhile Pacers up by 18 at home mid-3rd Q.

  48. snarkk said, on May 18, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    Blanco tends to strike out looking a lot…

  49. Flavor said, on May 18, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    just flipped on game, Panda bomb. Nice. Sorry I didn’t put up a thread today, been super busy.

  50. Macdog said, on May 18, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    Pablo!

  51. Flavor said, on May 18, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    Another Voggy Resurrection? How many does this make for him? Double digits yet?

  52. Flavor said, on May 18, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    I’d like to see a gif on that Mathis catch. He somehow caught that with his mitt turned the wrong way.

  53. Flavor said, on May 18, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    fun stat of the day: Jason Schmidt got paid $15 million per win as a Dodger….

    • blade3colorado said, on May 18, 2014 at 4:47 pm

      Fun stat of the day: I took Justin Masterson for my Fan Duel tournament today and in the entire history of Fan Duel, I don’t think a pitcher has ever had a negative score such as his (-1.67) based upon his putrid 7 earned runs in 4.1 innings, with 1 S0. OK, I jest, e.g., anyone who took Kershaw yesterday knows that feeling and more . . . I know there have been worse scores (the aforementioned Kershaw), but I have never had one for a pitcher in Fan Duel. Hilarious. :-)

      • Flavor said, on May 18, 2014 at 5:07 pm

        I was wondering how that happened. I told you that Ruiz wasn’t playing, you went to change your LU and came back and said you had taken Masterson. Didn’t make sense, thought I’d heard you wrong….
        Hey, Voggy got 17 pts. You’ll recall I was pro Voggy with you this morning.

      • blade3colorado said, on May 18, 2014 at 5:41 pm

        Yeah, total brain fart . . . I wanted to do a gym workout, so after I deleted Ruiz, I added Molina, but had to delete my 1st pitcher selection, to fit within the salary cap. Too many frickin’ decisions with a smart phone that I hate using when evaluating fan duel players.

        Anywho, my light weight $2 daily tournaments pale in comparison to the volume of tournaments you are playing each day . . . Consequently, I flushed that money down the toilet when I decided I needed a workout.

  54. Macdog said, on May 18, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    A little too much drama that inning.

  55. Flavor said, on May 18, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    Morse hits the ball so hard you can’t even see it leave the bat

  56. Bozo said, on May 18, 2014 at 4:14 pm

    Groovin on a Sunday Afternoon. Good win, Giants.

  57. snarkk said, on May 18, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    Looks like Voggy’s back.
    Good salvage of a split against a pain in the butt team…

    • wswins said, on May 18, 2014 at 4:54 pm

      Takes a big man to admit when he’s wrong…wtg snarkk. all in all a good split is right.

      • snarkk said, on May 18, 2014 at 5:01 pm

        Can’t argue with 5 good starts in a row. Will it last? Who knows? He looked done to me last year and his first few this season. But, he’s done something to pick up his velocity and movement. 7 shutout frames with 6 Ks and 1 BB, I’ll take that to the bank against a tough hitting club…

    • blade3colorado said, on May 18, 2014 at 5:43 pm

      Technically, I see no admission from snarkk that he was wrong about Voggy. LOL


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