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Getting Our Ass Handed to Us

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 12, 2014

These Nats are more than a little annoying. But there’s really not two ways to read this, they are kicking our ass, straight up. Outscoring us 17-6. And in our home park, that’s a little embarrassing. It could just be a bad stretch of games that all good (and bad) teams have over the course of 162. But it doesn’t seem to be a coincidence since it’s coming vs a team considered by many to be one of the top teams in the National League.

Today is a fairly big game. Getting swept at home in a 4 game series should not happen. We’ve got Huddy going up against someone named *Treinen*. So, we *steal* one, right?

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Ugh, is hockey over yet? And now soccer is starting? Where’s the fast forward button?

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  1. Bozo said, on June 12, 2014 at 6:49 am

    Ain’t no thing. Get em today and again in August back here (yes, I’m going to a couple of those games).

    “Where were YOU 20 years ago today?” – Well I was still in SF either at Carl and Willard (block up from Kezar) or 10th ave and Lawton.

  2. dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 12, 2014 at 8:03 am

    With the exception of Stl, the Giants got fat on the teams they should beat. Running into the Nationals has been a bit sobering. Got to save some face today.

    20 years ago today I was running this little deli/pizza place next to the Crow’s Nest in the Santa Cruz harbor. I would come in at 6AM and cook breakfast sandwiches on this crappy little camping stove and do all the food prep between orders. Around 8 some of the local women from the AVP tour would come down and hit the court, which was two steps outside the restaurant door. The view was fantastic. I lived up the street in that village surrounding the harbor. My roommate was a master lothario and unparalleled wing man. They were the best of times, they were the worst of times…..

    Who am I kidding? I still daydream about that moment in time.

    • wswins said, on June 12, 2014 at 11:30 am

      Giants have the best record in the majors against teams that are 500 or better…look it up

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 12, 2014 at 11:53 am

        Yeah, okay thanks. Don’t be a douche.

      • Chipower9 said, on June 12, 2014 at 12:22 pm

        I didn’t interpret the answer as “being a douche,” just factual.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 12, 2014 at 12:26 pm

        I don’t see where I claimed they haven’t performed well against teams that are .500 or better. The recent streak that was torn off was against the Cubs, Cards, Reds and Mets hence the Stl reference. That’s all factual too but you know, we could all look it up. The interwebs are fancy like that. I just learned of them.

      • wswins said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:30 pm

        here’s my douche reply….would love this blog being based on fact rather than opinion.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:40 pm

        So you’re denying that the Cubs, Reds and Mets are sub .500 teams? ’cause dagnabit, I looked it up. Even thought I didn’t need to.

      • wswins said, on June 12, 2014 at 6:59 pm

        Uh no. I’m saying they’re now 21-10 against teams playing 500+ and 22-14 against sub 500 teams.

  3. UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 8:53 am

    Ahhh, the Crow’s Nest. Can’t count how many times I staggered out of there. Or the Aptos Club, Sea Breeze, Cafe Rio, Sir Froggy’s, the Windjammer, the Med, and countless other bars down there. And that’s leaving out Capitola entirely. . . but that was 30 years ago. . .

    In ’94 I had a 4 year old girl and a 2 year old girl. Living in a condo in San Mateo. In other words, I was insane.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 12, 2014 at 9:05 am

      Yeah, the Crow’s Nest is alright. Sort of on it’s last legs these days. I spent a lot of time at Castaways and Brady’s Yacht Club. Worked at the Pizza My Heart in Capitola for a stint.

      • UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 9:11 am

        Hah! Yeah, the Capitola one I’ve been to about a zillion times. Shit, that opened in the late 70’s didn’t it?

        At least the Shadowbrook is hanging in there. I think. Been a while since I’ve been there.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 12, 2014 at 9:24 am

        Yeah, I think that was the original shop. My first job in Santa Cruz was there and my last one was at the Pacific Ave spot. At that time they had 3 or 4 restaurants and I would do all the prep in the morning and then drive the van around town delivering the goods to all the locations. In between foraging for hippy lettuce of course.

  4. UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 8:57 am

    Yeah, for being dinged up, we ran through a lot of good teams. The Nats just kicked our ass. If they win today, that would be suck. Huddy losing to their no-name guy would hurt. In the grand scheme of the race, we are still pretty far ahead, and can get back to padding the lead by wasting the sherpas..

  5. Bozo said, on June 12, 2014 at 9:53 am

    I liked what Baggs said yesterday, when he was asked what’s wrong with the Giants this series? “The 1927 Yankees lost 44 games. It’s baseball.”

  6. SanDawg said, on June 12, 2014 at 10:43 am

    I saw this Treinen guy pitch in person versus the Pads last week and he throws 95. Granted, there’s a lot more to pitching that that, but he’s got a good arm and this ain’t gonna be easy.

  7. Chipower9 said, on June 12, 2014 at 11:00 am

    Pablo back in the line-up after a bout with the flu yesterday…

    1. Angel Pagan (S) CF
    2. Hunter Pence (R) RF
    3. Buster Posey (R) C
    4. Pablo Sandoval (S) 3B
    5. Michael Morse (R) 1B
    6. Tyler Colvin (L) LF
    7. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
    8. Ehire Adrianza (S) 2B
    9. Tim Hudson (R) P

  8. UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 11:03 am

    Better to lose these now rather than October. Gives us something to point to later . . .

    Hey, I don’t know. I got nuthin’.

  9. Chipower9 said, on June 12, 2014 at 11:10 am

    Not tripping on this series. As I mentioned late on the previous thread, the Nats are gathering some steam, but they were 3 over .500 coming in, and not exactly world beaters. Don’t get me wrong…they ARE a good team. I think overall, their pitching tops ours. And they are getting hot even while missing two of their top players (Gonzalez and Harper).

    I don’t see this game as a “must win” (must win is when you are facing elimination), but it sure as hell would be nice to get at least one, and forgoe getting swept at home.

    20 years ago – I was living in Camino, married, and raising my kids (would make them 8 and 10 at the time). I was a few years removed from a four month deployment to Saudi Arabia, and was managing a group of business analysts (primary function softwawe requirements). Life was good. Life is good.

    Go Giants!

  10. Flavor said, on June 12, 2014 at 11:14 am

    DIRT– I was at Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk that day, too. We had walked down that peer, I think we were drinking beers in a bar down there. Saw the OJ slow ride on the tv in the bar.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 12, 2014 at 11:58 am

      Oh, man. Total disconnect on the whole OJ 20 years later part. I always thought AC had more to do with it than people think. I mean, I get being there for your boy and all but why the hell else would you pilot that bronco if you weren’t involved somehow?

      • UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 12:41 pm

        Kardashian is the one who covered for him.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 12, 2014 at 12:45 pm

        So karma put Bruce Jenner with his family after he passed? WTF happened to Jenner’s grill. Sweet jebus.

  11. Irish Kevin said, on June 12, 2014 at 11:15 am

    Was at the game lase night. I knew it was not going to be pretty when Matt walked the first 3 batters. So the Giants are 2 1/2 months into the season and this is the second 3 game losing streak they have had and of course there is a chance they could be swept today. The sky is falling the sky is falling. well maybe not. there is roughly 100 games left, the Giants are probably going to have going to lose a few more games/series/losing streaks between now and oh say October. Nothing like the grind of a 162 game season. Nothing like the torture of watching the ups and downs of your team. Fun times.
    20 years ago I started my carreer with the State, CalPERS to be exact. My new baby girl was not quite 1 years old yet. but she owned me.

  12. zumiee said, on June 12, 2014 at 11:39 am

    Maybe a positive that comes out of this series is that it lights a fire under Sabean regarding doing something about the secondbase situation. Hicks has done some nice things, but he seems to be running out of gas. The Giants would love for Adrianza to show something more. Maybe today he does that. Or maybe they push the Panik button. Or maybe they deal for somebody.
    —-
    20 years ago, I was experiencing the first summer after completing a year at the job I still have today. It was the first time I had a job that paid a decent salary, and had healthcare benefits. I pondered whether to buy a new car. I ended up hanging onto the old car for another couple of years before getting my first brand new car. Ah, that new car smell! :)

  13. zumiee said, on June 12, 2014 at 11:51 am

    The OJ murders were sad on so many levels. OJ got away with murder; we all got to see how the wealthy make a mockery of the judicial system; and it turned the cable news channels into the wasteland they are today.
    And, of course, the biggest thing was that two families lost precious loved ones in a horrific slaughter.
    The determination of the Goldman father led to the chain of events that finally put OJ in prison.

    • UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 12:48 pm

      What put OJ in prison was him and his posse trying to steal back his Heismann trophy in Vegas.

  14. snarkk said, on June 12, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    With Adrianza in there, Hicks’ strikeouts must be wearing a bit thin on Bochy. Adrianza is another guy that seems to me should be bunting and slapping as much as possible, per my Blanco rants. If he hits it in the air, that ain’t good, unless it’s a bloop hit. He did hit one or two HRs in ST, though, I think. I just think you can’t have a starting position player hitting well below .200 for an entire season, eventually that is going to catch up to you as far as the team production goes…

  15. Macdog said, on June 12, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    Chapman finishes off another Reds win over the Bums. Now the Giants gotta salvage one vs. the Nats. Fer chrissakes, even the Padres won a game against this team.

  16. SanDawg said, on June 12, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    I was working as a long-term substitute teacher when the OJ story broke. It was days before my first wedding. I remember a friend of mine telling me OJ’s wife had been killed and I really didn’t give it much thought. Then, a day or 2 later, I can still clearly remember reading the LA Times at my desk after school and it became obvious that OJ had done it. I was bummed as I had always liked OJ as a player and as a celebrity. Back then, I had such a complex about LA having everything better than SF and OJ was someone I could point to and say here is a stud that came from SF. But after reading that, I was done with OJ. We had the rehearsal dinner for my wedding at Anthony’s in La Jolla and the Bronco scene on the freeway unfolded while we were leaving the dining room. We all just stood in the bar all dressed up watching that whole deal. I gotta admit I was hoping OJ would shoot himself and just put an end to it. I’m still of that mind on these mass shootings. I hate seeing the killer grinning in the courtroom during these mass murder trials. I’d much rather see these nuts kill themselves or get killed at the scene of the crime. I don’t know if I could have endured all the Goldman’s went through to see justice finally be done. I give them a ton of credit for that as well.

  17. blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    Too bad you didn’t ask where I was 30 years ago, as it makes much more interesting reading . . . Some of the tamer stuff I was involved with: 1. Dating an escort (whom had celebrity clients, including John Cougar Mellencamp); 2. A drug dealer friend from LA and I took regular chartered flights to Lake Tahoe, where we would give the pilot a couple hundred dollars to gamble with, buy a steak, etc., while we gambled for the evening. We would usually do an all nighter and then afterwards. return to San Jose. Once, the pilot asked, “Do you guys smell something burning?” Our response? “Umm, no” . . . Actually, we were free basing in the back of the 6 seat prop plane; and 3. Too many threesomes, foursomes, and moresomes to count. Shit, as I have said here once or twice before, I should write my bio about my 20s because Hollywood would knock down the door for the film rights (seriously). Amazing that I survived. :-)

    Twenty years ago? Down right boring, but far healthier (e.g., I started working out again, since I had turned into a fat slob of over 225 lbs. – No more drinking, drugging, and only healthy food. Job wise, I had just quit my job working for a Navy Admiral at the Naval Postgraduate School and I took a job as the occupational safety and health manager at Shasta Dam. In short, the wife (not the escort. LOL) and I were happily married . . . Easily, a 180 degrees from my life ten years earlier. Ha.

  18. Macdog said, on June 12, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    I remember exactly where I was the night of the OJ craziness: At St. Rose HS in Belmar, NJ, watching Bobby Hurley play in the Jersey Shore Basketball League, his first game of organized ball since his horrific accident in Sacramento.

  19. Flavor said, on June 12, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    Henry Schulman ‏@hankschulman 4m
    Last time Expos/Nats swept a four-gamer in SF was 1975. Losing Ps were Falcone, Montefusco, Barr and Caldwell. #SFGiants

  20. snarkk said, on June 12, 2014 at 12:54 pm

    20 years ago I was in DC. I don’t remember even seeing the OJ escape try or paying attention to it other than maybe seeing it on the late news. I assume OJ is still directing his effort to find the real killers from his Nevada jail cell. I also admire the Goldman family for dogging his ass for years and years. If I were in their shoes, I would dog his ass in as many legal ways as I could for as long as I could. Making the rest of his life miserable would be my hobby…

  21. gianthead said, on June 12, 2014 at 12:56 pm

    At first I thought you were going for the date of the start of the baseball strike…but yes, that OJ chase (which I was just telling my 14 year old all about it and having to admit he ended his career with the Niners:() was one of the two or three most surreal moments of pop culture in my adult life if not the most surreal.

    I was at a bar on Capitol Hill watching the NBA Championship (I had to look this up, the game was Rockets vs. Knicks so MJ was doing his minor league public service tour) and then in the middle of the game, they break in with the car chase.

    I think it is 90% likely OJ did it, but back in ’94 and during the trial in ’95, I made a pretty good argument it was OJ’s oldest son who may have done it. Apparently someone wrote a book a couple of years ago making the argument. Apparently his son, now 44 and 24 at the time of the murder, has issues of schizophrenia. Remember how he went running through the police barriers when OJ and the Bronco pulled into the Brentwood home at the end of the chase?

    Reasons this could be plausible beyond the potential schizophrenia, the son may have had access to OJ’s old clothes like shoes and gloves. After the murder, he could have sought refuge in OJ’s compound, hence the knock in the back of Kato’s guest house from someone jumping over the fence. When the limo picked up OJ and testimony from other passengers on the flight, OJ never had a cut on his finger, putting into question the circumstantial argument that he cut himself in the knife murders. And finally, may have been the reason OJ stayed silent to protect his son from prison.

    But of course OJ seems one egotistical bastard and may not buy he would not have fingered his son and pointed to the mental issues leading to the murders…Screw OJ…

  22. UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    Something funny is one of my first jobs was working at the car wash near the train tracks in San Mateo in the summer of 1978. RIght across from Taco Bell.

    One day this brand new burgundy Loncoln Continental pulls in. Out hops OJ Simpson, and a young blonde chick. Since the Niners had traded for him, and he was a local guy as well, we all kinda knew he was married to his high school sweet heart or some shit. Seemed a little risky to be cruising with some blondie, but he was the man back then. Mighta been divorced by then. Gave my buddy $10.00 for cleaning his white walls.

    Always wondered if that was Nicole he was with . . .

    • blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:06 pm

      Good guess Chuck . . . It could have been Nicole, since he met Nicole when he was married. In other words, he was already cheating on his wife when he met Nicole.

  23. gianthead said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    Chuck Wikipedia says they met in ’77….I figured it was a hooker at first hearing your story:) But must have been her

  24. snarkk said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    OJ’s assaultive and menancing behavior in Nevada that got him arrested and jailed there goes a ways towards showing he was/is capable of some pretty nefarious things. Doesn’t prove he was a murderer, but proves he was far from a Hertz choirboy running happily through airport terminals. What drove him from a football hero and TV personality to being who he became seems the real question. Maybe underneath all that football veneer was always a sociopath, the football just kept it under wraps. When the football was gone, the real OJ appeared? Anyway, I doubt he’ll be mentioned much, if at all, in the Levi Stadium Niner HOF facility…

    • gianthead said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:14 pm

      I think there is also a factor with superstars like OJ and even the MJs of the world that think they are above everything and dont necessarily have to play at the level of mortals. I think that sort of psychosis can also allow them to do unethical, immoral, illegal and criminal acts and in their own mind think the rules don’t apply to them. I also think these type of personalities are not that far off from Charles Manson-type of psychopaths that could completely wipe away any thoughts in their minds they were complicit in heinous acts.

  25. gianthead said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:09 pm

    Ahhhh Pizza My Heart…fond high school memories of grabbing a slice of Pepperoni (could not have been more than $2) with my best friend over the summers when we spend the day roaming Santa Cruz. Record and book stores and then down to the Boardwalk…

    We used the volleyball courts at the Crow’s Nest though my college years and in Capitola of course. The son of one of my parent’s tenants in Santa Cruz broke his neck as a lifeguard in Capitola diving into shallow water…poor guy. I think he made a slow recovery and avoided paralysis.

  26. gianthead said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    and screw the Nats…people are getting even cockier today about them…

  27. dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    Covin with the triple!

  28. snarkk said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    OJ Simpson is in the pro football HOF. The dude has been convicted of felony assault, and by all likelihood got away with a double murder. He’s still in that HOF. Bonds did some ‘roids, like many of his contemporaries in his time in MLB, and for that won’t get into the baseball HOF. Weird…

    • UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:34 pm

      I think it was the order that this shit happened that makes it how it is.

      • gianthead said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:35 pm

        Bonds certainly has that above it all attitude…

  29. gianthead said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:19 pm

    ahhh Blade could I have lived your life 80s life for at least a little while…my life has been so conventional and boring in comparison:) And screw you, I am about 255 pounds…lol! But as I tell my wife, 6’2″ and 255 lbs, I am built like the average NFL linebacker….

    • blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:27 pm

      I wont say I didn’t have any fun, but burning both ends of the candle almost killed me GH. By the by, you have 2 inches on me in height, so yeah, your weight was better distributed then mine was. Before I stopped drinking and doing drugs – kids don’t do this at home – I went on a watermelon and beer diet for about 2 months. I hardly ate anything else. I lost a lot of weight, but it almost put me in a hospital. Dumb.

      • gianthead said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:32 pm

        yeah, not doing that watermelon beer diet…I am just on the No Steaks with Eric Cantor Diet…

      • UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:35 pm

        Hah! Saw that last night on the Daily show. Cantor spent more on steaks than his teabagger opponent did total.

      • snarkk said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:40 pm

        Eric Cantor — did that dude actually DO anything for the American people? Ever? His entire adult life was sucking up to lobbyists and other legislators so he could become a leader of legislators who suck up to lobbyists and other legislators. His colleagues took about 10 minutes to contemplate what happened to him, then moved immediately on to horsetrading to see who will succeed him, before his political corpse got cold. He raised $5 million for a campaign against a nobody (apparently didn’t spend near all of it) and lost. Talk about fiddlin’ while Rome burns. What a weasel…

  30. blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:20 pm

    There was a place called the Dream Inn, just north of the Boardwalk, where friends and I rented a room on the top floor during the 4th of July (not certain if it was 1982 or 1983). Probably illegal now, but we were firing bottle rockets and all sorts of other fireworks that evening from our balcony, while getting bonzoed with drugs/alcohol. Earlier, we had gone to the Catalyst, listened to music and picked up on some women – that we eventually convinced to come back to our hotel room. What a night!

    Ironically, this brings up memories of all night high school parties at 4-mile beach, a few miles up the road from Santa Cruz. Only had a sleeping bag back then. :-)

    • gianthead said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:34 pm

      We did a few nights in the Davenport beaches, but it was an easy escape to my parent’s house in Davenport itself…would get frickin unbearably cold about 2-3 am…

      • blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:41 pm

        In 1972, those puffy Michelin style down jackets came out . . . big, big clothing accessory item in high school (especially for beach parties in the Santa Cruz area). I kid Flavor about teenage boys showing up at his house with a van to date his daughter, but in my circle of friends, if you had a panel van back then, you had it made. These bedrooms on wheels were especially popular at beach parties back then. I guess they use those “boxy” looking SUV/cars now. Hilarious. New isn’t always better. :-)

    • UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:42 pm

      We used to do the same thing down at Manressa beach down near La Selva . . . . Shit, last show I saw at the Catalyst was Journey before Steve Perry joined the band. WHen they sounded much more like Santana rather than Kansas.

      4th of July was always a madhouse. A friend of mine’s parents had a glorified tree house on 0.5 of an acre on the road to Pfeiffer State beach in Big Sur. Pretty much illegal, but it had running (cold) water. No electricity, but close to the River Ranch, the beach, Nepenthe’s, and the gorge. We’d usually spend 3 days in Chinatown stocking up on explosives to set off on Carmel beach. Used to be a mondo party down there on the 4th.

      • UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:45 pm

        Late 70s was about derby jackets and Vietnam surplus stuff.

        R.E.D. surplus on B Street . . .

      • blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:47 pm

        Loved Manressa beach! Lot of good times there.

      • blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:50 pm

        Yeah, in high school (70s) – army fatigue jackets were in. In our Senior photo, just about everyone looks like Che Guevara.

      • gianthead said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:54 pm

        blade, you should see the looks of horror I get when people see my old high school pictures with long hair and whispery mustache. These east coasters and Midwesterners all probably born after the 80s cannot understand that was basically how everyone looked growing up in Bay Area in the late 70s/early 80s…

  31. gianthead said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    isn’t Flav on the edge of his seat with Croatia taking the early lead on Brazil????? Of course Brazil has tied it…

  32. gianthead said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    all the stories of the glory years (of course Blade takes the cake with his ala Ozzy Osbourne 80s lifestyle) puts it that much more in perspective that none of my kids and none that are friends of my kids and suspect none of your kids could handle half if not a quarter of the shit we did and got away with…the kids today could not handle it. We got away with so much in high school with cops. At least a dozen times caught with booze and not once ever busted…

    • UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:59 pm

      Not exactly Babe Ruth up to bat . . .

    • blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:02 pm

      Did anyone here have an “open campus” in high school? This was allowed for a short period of time in the early 70s (to the best of my knowledge). Essentially, you could leave the high school campus area after your classes were over. Our high school had this policy and my senior classes were set up perfectly for this, as I had overloaded with courses my Junior year. In short, I ensured all my credits were up to date and I only had government, PE and Algebra as requirements for my entire school year as a senior!

      Most of the students got high at the adjacent park or went home (again, partying while their parents were at work). LOL. Of course, I fucked up and was failing algebra and the teacher informed me that I would definitely fail and not graduate from High School, unless I buckled down. FUCK! I was forced to stay after school and do extra work. Damn, did I hate math (and still do. That’s what frickin’ calculators are for).

  33. Chipower9 said, on June 12, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    Giants have their boots on the Nats’ throats…need a hit here to add on.

  34. UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    Up to Huddy? I’m not feeling great about Angel lately.

  35. Chipower9 said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    Yeah, like Blade, if you go back 35 years, then I have some very similar stories. All-night parties with coke (hell, you name the drug, it was there), booze, and 200 pound tanks of nitrous oxide. In one house in which I lived in Sacto, I had the master bedroom. The walk-in closet had mirrored doors…we would pull a door, lay it across my bed, and there would be huge lines of coke 6 feet long. I seriously look back at those times and am amazed I lived to talk about it. Those partying shenanigans go back to my daze in high school (emphasis on HIGH), too.

    • blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:03 pm

      I knew at least one of you fuckers did coke. LOL. :-)

  36. Chipower9 said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:02 pm

    Fuck! Bases juiced and they cannot claw out one more run….

  37. UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:02 pm

    Oh joy.

  38. UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:05 pm

    Adtianza is really chapping my hide.

  39. blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    I have a great idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Actually the credit goes to GH. Flavor you need to have a “Teenage/20s Flapper” photo page with our mugs adorning this page. Like GH, I had hair down to my shoulders, with the obligatory puka shell necklace, blah, blah, blah. :-)

    • Chipower9 said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:12 pm

      LMAO. Yeah, I could drum up some picts for that page. That would be fucking hilraious. Puka shells? I can’t talk shit, cuz I rocked them for a while, too.

      • blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:14 pm

        I am ashamed to admit it, but I also rocked paisley shirts and bell bottom jeans/corduroys. The horror! The horror!

      • blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:15 pm

        Oh, can’t forget the porn mustache. :-)

      • Irish Kevin said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:24 pm

        Ah yes bell bottoms and cordoroy, remember them well. But I also remember my Levi’s!! The only jeans you could wear as a teenager. If you showed up wearing Wranglers you were banned from hanging out.

  40. Chipower9 said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    BOO YAH! Craw with the DP! Just what the fucking doctor ordered.

  41. zumiee said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:17 pm

    Bochy’s disdain of the squeezeplay can be frustrating sometimes.

  42. UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:17 pm

    Wow. Looks like Huudy’s got all the runs he’s gonna get.

  43. UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    No shit.

  44. Irish Kevin said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    spent most of my summers up Guernville way, Russian river area. very nice.

  45. UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    Weird. THat was supposed to be under Zumiee’s post.

  46. zumiee said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    Regarding the OJ trial, the lousy job the prosecution did can’t be excused. They became a textbook for future law students about what NOT to do in court. For example, it doesn’t take Einstein to know that blood-soaked leather gloves that have been drying on the ground for hours are not going to fit like un-blood-soaked gloves that have not been lying on the ground for hours. Plus, OJ was allowed to wear a plastic glove under the other glove in the demonstration! And even if the demonstration had somehow worked, it wouldn’t have proven anything. The defense would have just said: oh, that size fits millions of people. Just a really ill-advised, high-risk, low-reward decision by the prosecution.
    And that’s only one example of a lousy job they did. There are lots of others.

  47. zumiee said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:32 pm

    I’m generally liberal politically, but liberals can over-reach, too. My high school had a smoking section for students on the campus. It seems unbelievable now, post-Reagan, post-reactionary era.

  48. UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    Right. I think the prosecution felt that the evidence was so overwhelming, they got either complacent or cocky about it. By the time the glove debacle happened, they were on their heels and scrambling. The rest was history.

    The evidence was overwhelming but you never know with juries.

    • zumiee said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:42 pm

      Yes, one of things that came out of the trial was a reminder that less can be more with juries. Juries can have limited attention spans or ability to process lots of information. In fact, one of the goals of the defense in jury selection is to have the least educated jury they can get.

  49. UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Hey. That worls . . .

  50. Macdog said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Balk! That’ll work.

  51. zumiee said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    HanRam not available for the Dodgers in their loss today. He got some kind of shot in his shoulder. Cortisone? Cortisone, I learned today, is actually a steroid, but not an ANABOLIC steroid. And I don’t really know what that means. I haven’t learned that part yet.
    Cortisone has been used in sports for decades, of course. But, technically, you’d have to call it a performance enhancing drug, but one that is allowed. I guess, technically, aspirin could be seen as a PED, if the player has a headache.

  52. Macdog said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    Some Dodgers fans never learn: http://tinyurl.com/kpl2rtm

    • blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:55 pm

      Wow! Fits the profile of these mass murderers. Need to watch this guy carefully.

    • snarkk said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:39 pm

      That dude is seriously messed up…

  53. UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:45 pm

    As far as I cantell, cortizone doesn’t build muscle, it masks pain.

    Back to Adrainza . . .

  54. zumiee said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    Keep matriculating around the bases, boys!

  55. Chipower9 said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    How is that for a “slap hit” by Tiburone Blanco, snarkk? Blanco has been catching some shit the past few days (rightfully so). Nice AB to drive in a run.

    • snarkk said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:08 pm

      I like slap hits; cool! He should be hitting .280 by slapping all the time…

  56. UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    Another doink to LF for Pagan.

    • zumiee said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:56 pm

      Yeah, there’s less lower body to his swing lately. I hope his leg(s) gets better soon.

  57. blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    No biggie Crazy Horse . . . Ya saved the game earlier.

  58. zumiee said, on June 12, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    Krukow: “It’s not a bad thing that Hudson struck out. Keeps him out of a double-play.”
    That’s not exactly a ringing endorsement for the National League to keep out the DH.
    I don’t favor the DH, but there are times once in a while…….

  59. zumiee said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    I heard F.P. interviewed on Tolbert’s show on KNBR. Seemed like a lot of macho posturing from F.P. He wanted everyone to know how tough he was as a player. His career couldn’t have been more marginal. Who cares about his baseball career? He’s got a broadcasting career, cool. But I don’t really care one way or the other. On the MLB package, I generally tune into the other team’s broadcasters if it’s a Nats game. As other’s here have said, the Nats broadcasting crew ain’t that great.

    • UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:11 pm

      Yeah, without the steroids, he’s a AAAer.

    • UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:15 pm

      That was like Rich Aurillia taking credit for helping the Giants win the WS back in 2010. What, was he in ST for a week? Thanks, Richie, but shut it.

    • blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:18 pm

      Zum, who is “F.P.?”

      • snarkk said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:34 pm

        FP (Frank Paul) Santangello. Was on the Giants for one season back in 1999 or some such. Career journeyman. Also with the A’s at one point, I think. Expos, Dodgers, some others. He was in the Mitchell Report as having used ‘roids. He admitted it, said it was only for injury recovery. Right. As Chuck says, without ‘roids, he’s probably a career AAAA dude. He was a fill in guy on KNBR talk shows for a coupla years, then got the gig as second banana on the Nats TV broadcasts. I never thought much of him as a broadcaster — seems to me he has a pretty juvenile sensibility. He got along well with Eric Byrnes — they tag teamed some on KNBR. Listening to those two talk risked losing brain cells without use of alcohol. Haven’t heard Byrnes lately on KNBR — thank Keereist…

      • blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:52 pm

        Thanks!

      • wswins said, on June 12, 2014 at 7:05 pm

        Byrnes is on mlb network….

    • UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:29 pm

      FP Santangelo. Oe of the fighting hydrants. Marvin Benard, FP, Bobby Estaleja (sp?), and a couple other little dudes who ended up getting implicated in the Giants steroid investigation around 2002. Benito Santiago was part of that as well.

  60. blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    I’m looking forward to Kershaw taking on the Snakes tomorrow. Get in your WayBack Machine and go back to that Saturday about a month ago, where Kershaw suffered a rare implosion, getting yanked in the second inning after allowing seven earned runs on six hits – including three triples – in what escalated to an eventual 18-7 beatdown at the hands of the Diamondbacks. Hopefully, the Snakes can make lightening strike twice.

  61. snarkk said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    When Bochy took Adrianza out for Blanco in the 6th with Morse at third — what more do we need to know? Adrianza needs to get waived, and BFD if he gets picked up. That’s a downright embarrassing lack of confidence by the manager in even making contact…

    • Chipower9 said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:35 pm

      snarkk – you see my 1:45 post (link to an article about Panik)? In the article Adrianza is mentioned, and it is specifically said that the Giant’s brain trust (can they really be referred to in this manner on this topic???) does not want to subject Adrianza to waivers. I am with you…whoop-di-FUCKING-DO…so what if he is designated and gets picked-up. I just do not get it.

      • snarkk said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:45 pm

        No, I don’t get it either. Pulling a batter out in the middle of the game for a PH with a man on third and one out is flat embarrassing. He’s NOT going to get much playing time up here with the big club. So, his bat is NOT going to get better riding pine in the bigs. Dump him to AAA to get the ABs he needs to get better with the stick. If he gets picked up by somebody, then phhtttt, whatever….

      • Chipower9 said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:57 pm

        You’re preaching to the choir. On the flip-side of that article, I don’t see bringing Panik up now as a good move, either. He needs to continue to play most every day. I don’t want to see him until rosters expand.

        I DO see 2nd as a position that needs to be upgraded (many discussions on this the past few days about whether the Giants need to upgrade 2nd or add a SP, and which should be the priority).

      • Bozo said, on June 12, 2014 at 4:20 pm

        Baggs mentioned that the Giants feel Adrianza and Arias are the only backups to SS if Crawford gets hurt.

      • Bozo said, on June 12, 2014 at 4:26 pm

        Doesn’t say much for Abreu and Ciriaco, but that’s what Baggs thought. Ehire did make a nice play up the middle that may have saved a run today but that was about it. Tough to bunt with the guy when the bases are loaded but the K was better than a double play. *shrug*

      • snarkk said, on June 12, 2014 at 5:02 pm

        I get that Adrianza is a back up to SS for Craw if he gets hurt, I’ve noted that before. But, Arias can do that. Worrying about 3 guys getting hurt for the same position is a little much, IMO. Adrianza just seems overwhelmed and just lucky if he happens to get a hit. So, I think they’d survive if Adrianza goes, and they bring up somebody who can swing the wood, whatever the position, primarily for PH purposes. Lack of capable alternative help in AAA in this regard is frustrating…

      • Bozo said, on June 12, 2014 at 6:19 pm

        I understand your point snarkk, I just don’t agree that Arias is a viable backup at SS. Third, I’m OK with, First, I’m sorta OK with, Second, I’m starting to get hinky, SS for more than one game and I’m downright sweating out my precious bodily fluids. I don’t want to really get into it, but Ehire is the 25th guy like Noonan, Tanaka, Burriss, Velez or maybe even the king of the 25th slot, Bowker. In my mind it shouldn’t matter if the last guy on your bench can only contribute glove work if your starter goes down, he’s the last guy on your bench. Shit man, it wasn’t too long ago that some folks wanted Crawford out to see what Adrianza could do. The Giants will make a move when they feel safe doing it, or are forced into it, let it ride.

  62. dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    Hope today’s game is a sign of Colvin heating up.

  63. Chipower9 said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    FUCK YEAH. Only one game, but time for the Giants to administer an ASS-WHOOPIN’ of their own. Don’t want the Natty Nats getting too full of themselves.

  64. UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    yay! Glasd to take one. Didn’t lose but 1 game in the standings, so that’s cool.

  65. snarkk said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    Solid game. Good offensive comeback against a lower tier opposing pitcher. Huddy is back on track — 7 frames, 7 hits, one UNearned run…

  66. Chipower9 said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    Nice win. Hudson proves to be the stopper. Bring on the Sherpas and let’s see the G-men get another win streak going.

    Bumbinos (and Grienke) lost today.

  67. blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    I sat Santana today on one of my FL teams. Correct call as he got lit up at the Cape Sherpa launching pad. They ought to blow up that stadium, dig a mile deep hole, build a new stadium and have fans take elevators down to the games. Presto! Normal baseball.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 12, 2014 at 4:14 pm

      lqtm. Can’t say I’ve thought of that but hey why not?

      • blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 4:22 pm

        Dirt, a few years ago I wrote Woody Paige (Around The Horn), telling him the same thing, after a column he wrote in the Denver Post criticizing baseball at Coors. He thought it was an excellent idea (albeit, he did it in an email and not in the comment section of the Denver Post. LOL. A very nice guy (albeit, a bit pompous, especially in regard to his Broncos, whom he loves) . . . He has thoughtfully responded back to all my emails. Ironically, the dude is terrible at editing his own writing (thank God for editors), as his email correspondence was atrocious for its grammar and spelling mistakes.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 13, 2014 at 7:53 am

        I’ve seen Paige on some of those ESPN talking head shows. He’s a funny guy. I bit off I guess that what makes him funny. Can’t say I have read to much of his stuff. That’s pretty cool of him to respond to you.

    • snarkk said, on June 12, 2014 at 4:21 pm

      Cool. They could probably send men to Mars for less than that would cost, but hey, sounds good. Maybe they’ll strike oil or gold while building it…

  68. snarkk said, on June 12, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    Win today tastes better after a short losing streak. Wake up call after a long streak of everything going right, regardless that the guys are down to earth and aren’t reserving playoff hotel rooms yet. Especially good game since they got 7 without any HRs. Crawford is really picking it up with the stick…

  69. snarkk said, on June 12, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    If today’s game is any indication, if Brazil does not get through to the WC final, it won’t be for lack of trying by the refs…

  70. stickman said, on June 12, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    That vintage Hudson Terraplane sure is a smooth drive. 7-2 now with the best ERA in baseball. What’s that old adage about good pitchers and good hitters? Goes to show that when your starter is cruising pretty soon your hitters can get to bruising.

    Current power outage was overcome by the little guys again. Boppers didn’t do much. Crawford, Colvin and Hector (one AB for him) provided a big chunk of the fireworks, though Pence and Morse contributed plenty too. Buster currently remains a bust and Belt is still out of action.

    A three game losing streak is about enough for this bunch ~ particularly with Hudson as our stopper. Now its time for Timmy to get some vengeance on having to pitch on occasion in the Box of Rox and show the Sherpas tomorrow night. Be nice if we sweep em at home even if they are more than ten games back. Some of us remember ’93 and how Colorado got seasonally swept by the Braves. Had they taken one from them SF would have been a winner that year. No pity called for in this series. Let’s go get em.

  71. Nipper said, on June 12, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    Thank Goodness for Hudson.

  72. blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    Speaking of the Sherpas, apparently they got in a pretty good brouhaha with the Atlanta Braves today, with Weiss taking a baseball bat to the dugout wall.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/tempers-flare-rockies-beat-braves-221957925–mlb.html

  73. blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    Not certain Willie is lurking around here – Did you see the Heat/Spur 7 point sequence (by the Spurs) where the score was 48-33? Started off with Lebron being stuffed defensively under the basket (he looked silly), then the scoring sequence began . . . 2 point jump shot by Kawhi Leonard, then a 3 point jump shot by Patty Mills and last, but not least, an emphatic rebound dunk (in the same motion) by Leonard over 3-4 Heat players seemingly standing around. Score 55-36, Spurs over the Heat at the half . . . Just my opinion, but this series is OVER. Heat have no answers.

  74. unca_chuck said, on June 12, 2014 at 10:53 pm

    Quite the fun game to watch. I can dig the Spurs. The heat just make me ill.

    Talk now is Mark Jackson taking over the Cavaliers and him wooing LeBron.

  75. Nipper said, on June 13, 2014 at 6:06 am

    HEAT suck big time. Miami fans disgusted. Popovich is schooling HEAT.

  76. Chipower9 said, on June 13, 2014 at 7:47 am

    As mentioned previously, the Natty Nats do have a good team (probably the best pitching in the NL), but I am not tripping on this series. Giants were due to hit a bump (only 2nd time they have lost three in a row this year), and the Nats came in on a roll. Whatevah.

    Bring on the Sherpas and let’s see the G-men rip-off another winning streak.

    De La Rosa against Timmy tonight. Jorge is 1-0 with a ND against the Giants this year. Time to tag a GIANT loss on his ass.

    I’ll try to follow on my phone. We’re hitting a local winery for live music and brick oven fired pizzas tonight. Make it an awesome Friday Flappers!

  77. willedav said, on June 13, 2014 at 8:18 am

    Agreed, Chi. Bum lost a pitchers duel 2-1, Vogs and Cain put SF behind early couple times. Cain game was hard to watch, but one hit either way (Arias GIDP, Hicks K, Crawford and Blanco smashes caught) could have made difference.

    As to Spurs, Nip is right, Pop schooling them. His team responded to Game 2 L with better D and more unselfish play and adjustment to LU of less Splitter and more Diaw and Mills. I told a guy before game that LBron wasn’t getting enough help and sure enough rest of his team disappeared. Leonard (San Diego St kid) m my fav player on either team. Still 1 to get and road team has won 3 of 4.

  78. snarkk said, on June 13, 2014 at 8:58 am

    Is Heat singular or plural?
    The Heat ARE sucking or the Heat IS sucking?…

  79. willedav said, on June 13, 2014 at 9:07 am

    Didn’t realize but according to Chron “This Date in Baseball” it’s 2 years ago Cain’s perfecto. Great grab by Blanco, but mostly I remember was it Arias at 3b with final play, kinda shaky legs, but got the all imp out #27.


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