Designated on January 21st, March Scutaro was officially released yesterday. He is unlikely to sign with another team. I won’t say “sad end” because he got paid in spades after what he did for us in 2012. But I will say “disappointing ending” to yet another 2nd baseman for the Giants who have 2-baggers disappear the same way Spinal Tap loses drummers……
Joe Panik, please look both ways, a couple of times, before crossing streets today….
Absolutely zero baseball news to kick around. Pitchers and catchers report on Feb 18th. That’s 20 days, 14 hours, 15 minutes and 3 seconds, as soon as I hit the “publish button”….
Anniversary of the space shuttle exploding. Where were YOU?
I was at school in the library. We were huddled around a shitty tv watching it live. Probably a good event to miss in HD.
This got kicked around a little by you guys already but until I watched the video of him saying it, I didn’t really grasp how stupid Rob Manfred’s idea to increase offense in baseball really was. The number one idea he decided to float publicly: eliminate defensive shifts.
Whaaaaaattttt the fuuuuuuckkkkk?
While I do think that would work, why stop there? Why not make corner infielders use gloves on their throwing hand? Make Brandon Crawford wear concrete cleats. Outfielders are no longer allowed to throw. To get the ball in they need to transport it via catapult. Make it illegal for a runner to get thrown out trying to steal. I can already see Manfred giving me a knowing dude head nod for my ideas. You’re welcome, Idiot….
Some hitters can’t beat the shift? Boo freaking hoo. Learn how to hit. Guys like Will Clark laugh at hitters who can only hit the ball one direction.
And Manfred wants to help these poor guys out by eliminating shifts? I guess now that he and his owner cronies are no longer allowed to look the other way on steroid use this is the only idea they could muster to increase offense across baseball.
And by the way, more offense busts his other goal which is to shorten the time it takes to play an entire game.
But don’t let that stop you from implementing one of the dumbest ideas I’ve ever heard come out of a commissioner of a major sport….
PK with the trophy
Here’s a photo taken at Pawlie’s day with Willie and the Gang yesterday
Apparently, Panik was going through some type of dehydration issue….
And here is a picture of Boston’s new 300 pound….er, I mean, “100 million dollar man”. This was taken yesterday. I love the look of the kid behind Sandoval. He’s like, “Fuck. We’ve been had. Get the Dodgers on the phone stat to trade this dude”
At the trophy event, Willie Mays allowed how this World Series was the hardest, the one that had him worried. He is amazing rattling off player names and situations. He was asked about the greatest center fielder besides himself. He begged off, saying how he got crushed when he said he was the greatest. He didn’t want to get in trouble. (“Junior was pretty good.”) And he went on to say how it is just one position, it takes nine guys on the field to win. “I helped all the guys around me. It was for the team, not me.” He meant it, and he said that was the thing about the 2014 team.
I’ll share three little gems. 1.) When Mays was on deck for the 1951 Bobby Thomson homer, he said he did not realize at first that the game was over, that the homer won the game! “I had no idea. Stanky and Leo were hugging and jumping. ‘Get up there, fool!’ I said to myself. I just wanted to bat. I was a kid.” 2.) The passing of Ernie Banks was mentioned. Over and over again, Willie affirmed the take everyone has on Banks: just a nice guy, a kind man. Mays related how Banks came up to him the first time before a game, maybe in Chicago. Willie knew of him and Gene Baker. Banks introduced himself. “Yeah, I know who you are. We’re still gonna knock you down.” And as for “let’s play two,” Willie was, “C’mon, you gotta play one first.” 3.) Willie shared great memories, warm thoughts about Monte Irvin, left fielder. He is 95, living in Houston, the oldest African American ex-player. Irvin was supposed to come up before Jackie, Mays said, except he served in the military. In the beginning of Mays’s time in New York, Mays would visit Irvin and his wife Dee every other day in Paterson, NJ, to eat, get acclimated, etc. Irvin took him under his wing. Willie told a profound story of how he could walk around in Paterson at a park, by himself, untouched by fame. (To me, that’s the origin of the grouchy reputation. Fame is a killer, as Bob Dylan showed in the Scorcese movie “No Direction Home.”) Willie said, “I didn’t want to hurt Monte’s feelings. I was his roommate for three weeks. I told Dee, ‘I gotta get some sleep!'” instead of going back and forth to Paterson. You could tell how much Irvin meant, and it hints at a whole subtext of being black on a white team in a white society.
Sorry I missed DJLoo and Macdog down at Finnerty’s. What else could I do? What a day.
Let’s put to rest any stereotype that Willie Howard Mays Jr. is a grouch. Rather, he is a delightful storyteller, with crackling wit, evident kindness, and self-deprecating humility.
I managed to snag an invite to a private showing of the World Series trophy this morning at the New York Palace hotel. Dennis Z. and I braved a snowstorm and found our way to Manhattan from Dennis’s house about 70 miles northwest. The New York Giants Preservation Society (http://newyorkgiantspreservationsociety.com/) spearheaded the event, led by Gary Mintz. (Great job.) Pictures posed with the trophy. I did a 3 with one hand and a 5 with the other. Then on the other side of the second-floor landing, by the stairs, a tall fellow was being interviewed by MLB.com. Joe Panik. I thanked him, shook his hand, asked if he knew George Brown, who played with him at St. John’s. He did indeed. My daughter goes to HS with Brown’s sister. (My camera messed up for most of the event but I might have a video to share.) I went back a bit later and got an autograph for this daughter. Panik is well spoken, friendly, patient, mature beyond his years. Dennis and I skipped the free sumptuous breakfast this palatial place. Too excited. Soon, at the entrance to the Villard ballroom, a clutch of people stood around willie Mays. I got chills. A reverent aura surrounded him. (Pictures to come, somehow.) He was surrounded by what appeared to be a bodyguard and Giants staffers. As he walked in (I was behind), people stood, one by one, and clapped, all 55 guests. At the dais, Mays sat on one end, Panik in the middle. Bryan Srabian, standing, director of digital media of the Giants, served capably as MC. I’ll just share some notes, but first left me say Mays was truly funny. Folks at the table near me, and many others, exchanged comments that more or less said: “Who knew the guy was such a comedian?” You could really see how he kept his whole team loose. Plus, his recall of games and people and episodes was brilliant. Maybe a stat was off here or there (or not) but his recounting was lush with narrative detail. Humor and charm. I will “download” some recollections right here right now so that I don’t forget details. (It’s all notes for my otherwise-completed next book.) Forgive me if I run into a second thread. Most of the event involved audience Q and A.
The Flip. Someone asked Joe Panik about the double-play in Game 7. He said he knew how Bumgarner pitched (hard sink) and how the batter batted, so he positioned himself where he did. When it was hit, instinct took over. He knew there was no time, so he had to flip it to Crawford. Said you can’t practice that. The questioner lined it to Willie and The Catch, in 1954. Willie was funny: “What do you mean three? I only one one, in ’54. I didn’t win these. Then Willie playfully explained to Panik how you have to nurture the idea of a slogan, The Flip. I’m not explaining it right, but it was perceptive and amusing. All the while, Panik was deferential to Mays — and enjoying his stores, as we all did. [more to come]
Decent debate over the last 2 threads about how Petit will be used. Starter? Long guy? I think there’s the realistic way he will be used and then the *fantasy* way he will be used. Realistically he’s going to be a long guy who comes in after a starter gets blasted. He’ll try to stop the bleeding. For a team not projected to score many runs, we are likely to lose those games.
From a fantasy perspective (and I’m talking about *fan* fantasy, not fantasy baseball) Petit could be the long guy who takes the ball after one of our old pitchers (or Timmy) manage to make it through 4-5 innings and still holding the lead (let’s say it’s 3-2). He holds sway for a couple of innings and gets the ball to our 7-8-9 guys.
Of course, I think Timmy could do that job too.
Petit proved last post season what a weapon he can be that was more circumstances than it was a way he could be used regularly.
I’d love to see Bochy use Petit in his most effective role (bringing him in when one of the oldies hits 75-80 pitches and we still hold the lead) but I doubt that’s how he’ll get used…….
And now an all day VB tourney in freaking Discovery Bay. Bye.
Pete Rose is going to attend and play a public part in the 2015 all-star game. Wut?
He’s not allowed in the Hall of Fame but baseball is cool with making some dough off him at an all-star game?
Rose will do it, it’ll be a boon for his gambling habits. He’ll sign so many balls and jerseys he’ll have to switch to his left hand to sign. When that one quits he’ll stick the pen in his mouth and….you get the drift….
I’m fine with it, too. More Pete Rose at real, sanctioned baseball events is all good in my book. But all this does is continue to make the HOF look like a joke. Which it is……
The deal with the (L)astros looks to have fallen through. Apparently, Vogg’s read my thread a couple of days ago and said “on second thought, fuuuuuuuck that.” He’s now in negotiations with the Giants and I’m fine with that as you can never have enough starting pitchers on your staff not named “Kickham.”
So I may be jumping the gun here but welcome back, Voggy. We missed you?
:) :) :)
I’m not certain, but I think Saturday is the day the east coast gets overrun by the tsunami known as “Mac-a-Looza.” Head for higher ground. I’m hoping PK joins the flood too, just to push the party over the top. Please take pics and forward to me. Or dump them in the ‘bucket’ yourselves if you have authorization to do so.
And if today isn’t the day then just enjoy the pleasant weather than winter on the east coast is known for….
:) :) :)
in other news, the Giants have designated Marco Scutaro. So there’s that……
and in other other news, here are the updated odds to win this year’s WS. The Cubs? Do oddsmakers understand how difficult it is to actually win the WS? Let alone 3 in 5?
Voggy is about to sign a deal with the Astros and I don’t fault him for that since it took him so long to ensconce himself at the mlb level. Gotta get paid. But goddamn, what an awful way to end your career—as an Astro. And the deck is stacked against him. He’s going from a pitchers park to a hitters park. When you’re at the tail end of your career that’s only a good move if you’re a hitter. As high strung as he is, I can’t imagine he’s going to be too cool with a bunch of bumbling Astro kids playing defense behind him. And we all know that at this point in his career he seems to pitch much better in the post season than the regular season. I wonder how many post season games the Astros will play in 2015?
So long Voggy. I hope you’re getting a lot of guaranteed money…….
Scherzer, as all of you probably know, is off the table after signing a 7 year/210 million dollar deal with the Nats. This carries on a predictable theme where I would have been happy to have the player on my team but I’m relieved he signed somewhere else.
That leaves Big (regular season) Game James Shields as the final landmine to a miss this Winter…..
Casey McGehee and Nori Aoki better be really, REALLY good at baseball….
I find it hilariously ironic that The White Shark gets paid NOW (2years/7.5 mil) a day after he gets bounced to the bench. Anyone else think that’s funny?
I’m fine with keeping him around, he is serviceable and, if anything, appears to be a good luck charm. I’d rather have Aoki starting just in the hopes that he recaptures some production from 2012 but basically they’re 2 dudes of the same ilk combining to produce a fairly underwhelming starting outfielder….
Sorry I’ve been MIA, my daughter has risen to the club volleyball level and that means lots of driving and lots of volleyball all weekend long. I almost got in a fight with a family from a Samoan team from The City today. Didn’t start it, obviously……
I keep remembering what this dude did in 2012— 37 doubles, 30 steals. .288 batting average. Unfortunately he’s been on a slow decline since then. He’s 33, the steals are unlikely to come back much.
But what the hell, I’m down with this signing. We need depth and The White Shark just found his way back to his best look–the bench.
But ask yourself this: Panda and Morse out, Aoki and McGhee in.
Does that make us better? Or does it at least keep us competitive?
The last time I wrote something like that it was to the Letters to the Editor at the Chron back in 2007. I wrote it in reference to the Giants signing Bruce Bochy to be their manager. I still have that letter somewhere, I’ll try to find it…..
So that’s about the only thing positive I can find to say about the Niners new head coach hire…….
Speaking of Bochy, there were things in his managerial career that surprised me (I looked that up today). He’s barely over .500 for his career— 1618–1604. He’s only finished first in the NL West twice in his 8 year career with the Giants. And yet his playoff record (with the Giants) is 34-14. Impressive.
Krukow was on KNBR this morning in full-shill mode. He was asked what he would say to Giants fans who are questioning Sabean’s Winter-long hands sit and he replied simply: “Relax.”
He then went on to say he had confidence in Blanco due to the fact that he’s been a starting OF in the last 2 world series wins, that Juan Perez is still young and that he can use his success last year in the playoffs as a building block and that Casey McGehee is a “really good player.”His comments were making me laugh out loud alone in the car…….
But that got me to thinking, what is our greatest current area of need? Or put another way, where are we weakest?
Here’s the projected line up:
The Starting five project as Bum, Cain, Peavy, Lincecum and Huddy with Petit sprinkled in there somewhere…….
To me, the line up is the weakest link, especially when you factor in an injury that will happen. Because of Petit, the rotation could withstand one blow.
Yes, the rumors you heard are true. Travis Blackley does, in fact, have a minor league deal to join the Giants in spring training. And some of you thought Sabean would wait till the 2015 trade deadline to launch into activation mode.
Don’t you feel stupid now?
#sfgiants are now rumored to be interested in Dillon Gee. Interest and action are 2 different things. Here’s a link to Gee’s stats:
He’s ok, I’d take him on the team as insurance. But at 28 years old there will be competition for him and we all know what direction the flow chart takes us with Sabean when competition is involved…..
If you’re interested, please leave your national championship predictions in the thread below. I’m on Oregon winning 45-24
When Ben Zobrist went to the A’s for John Jaso it just reinforced what we already know about Sabean: he’s a lone wolf who doesn’t compete for players.
Say what you will about him, but he doesn’t repeat a unique move. He went all in on a monster deal for Zito and he hasn’t gone down that road again for a non-Giant free agent. He went all in on a mid season blue chip trade when he gave up Wheeler for Beltran and you get the feeling that he’ll never do that again.
But when it comes to more middling less interesting pick ups like Ben Zobrist, I feel like Sabean operates in “No Man’s Land.” Unsure of what to give up and not wanting to give up too much he ends up doing nothing and lets way too many doable deals go by without action. It’s the same reason, by the way, that he never gets a decent foreign player. Unsure of what they truly cost, he always loses…..
DJ Loo’s POTD has never felt more real to me as it does right now……
I can’t believe I’ve spent a second wondering about the possibility of getting Ben Zobrist. Of course we aren’t getting Zobrist. There are other teams interested. When does Sabean ever compete for a player via trade? The last one might have been Carlos Beltran. So while he’s done it, he doesn’t do it very often. He’s not into competing. Sabean is a lone wolf….
Makes it all the more remarkable that we got Hunter Pence for Tommy Joseph and Nate Schierholz. How the hell did he pull that off?
No new Giants news to speak of. If you want to know how long it’s been since we heard anything meaningful about the team, consider this: the last time we heard Giants news the current BBOTD was a sophomore in college. She’s still waiting….
Regarding the pitching, the Giants must be ready to go all-in on Yuzzie-Pet spot starts. Nothing else explains the lack of action.
It’s hard to stay positive about the upcoming year when all Sabean has done is bring back the old guys. We’ve seen how this has gone twice now. I don’t know if it’s bad luck of post-championship complacency, but bringing back the exact same team (and in this case it’s minus Pablo, plus McGehee) is not a recipe for repeating…..
Who will win this year’s Aubrey Huff Award? You know, the award given to the player who was an invaluable cog in our World Series machine only to do absolutely nada the following year.
Of course, Huff himself won the inaugural award back in 2011. Marco Scutaro won in 2013. Who will win in 2015?
Without further ado, I proudly present this year’s nominees:
1) Tim Hudson
2) Jake Peavy
3) Juan Perez
4) Travis Ishikawa
Sorry I couldn’t put this in voting form, wordpress seems to have either hid or done away with the voting feature.
Who are you voting for and why?
This will never happen, but I wish that Barry Bonds would come out publicly, denounce the Hall of Fame and the joke voters they employ, and request his name be taken off all future ballots. It’s time to send a strong message to the HOF that they are full of shit. Sitting around hand wringing and nervously wondering about your vote percentage seems like a waste of time–especially for a place that doesn’t want you no matter what percentage of votes you garner.
It doesn’t have to be Barry. It could be anyone who has been twisting in the wind waiting for these blowhard writers to allow them to kiss their ring. If enough of them denounced the hall and renounced their inclusion on the ballot we might finally see the Hall of Fame renamed to what it truly is: The Hall of Hypocrisy.
I couldn’t care less who gets voted in or not anymore…..
Unca here, again. I’m starting to see these all over the City. Is there a Flap graffiti artist out there?
Let’s move on from the Stuart Scott goodbyes and discuss something more Giant-centric and that would be the possible Ben Zobrist pick up. He would be a great fit for the team, mostly due to his positional flexibility. Unfortunately, other teams want him too. The Rays are looking for a huge haul– 1 top prospect and 1 mid prospect. If that’s true, for me, that’s a deal breaker. No way do I give up a top prospect for going-on-34-year-old Ben Zobrist.
Translated, they want Kyle Crick and maybe a Clayton Blackburn. Obviously, we would all include Blackburn in a deal because we see him more as our next Mike Kickham than our next Hunter Strickland.
Or do you see Hunter Strickland as a guy you’d give up for Zobrist?
I’d do that. Probably not much more. And that’s why he’s probably going somewhere else…..
I am deeply saddened to learn of the passing of Stuart Scott. I was never a huge fan of his persona on ESPN and like anyone with a shtick it got old from time to time. But he was one of those *friends* who I never actually knew. He was in my living room, every night, telling me about the day in sports with all the cliches he made famous. But over time, like a warm blanket, I started to appreciate how “cool the other side of the pillow” really was….
And watching him fight his cancer so publicly there was one word that rose above all others in describing his fight: inspiring.
In 2014, he won the Jimmy V Perseverance Award and his acceptance speech was the best one since Jimmy V himself. I’m embedding it below but here’s the line that we should all adopt as our mantra in life, whether we have cancer or not:
“When you die, that does not mean you lose to cancer. You beat cancer by how you lived, why you lived, and in the manner in which you lived. So Live. Live….”
RIP Stuart Scott.
And for the rest of us, go live today. Live.
As a member of the Baseball Bloggers Alliance I am required to participate in HOF voting. Surprisingly, the BBA voters do very well in predicting actual outcome. I’m not so sure about this year. :)
Here are the players we voted in this year as well as the % vote they received. You need 75% to get in.
John Smoltz: 89%
The players who fell short were Edgar Martinez (71%) and Curt Shithead (69%).
Remaining vote getters:
I can’t believe I was rooting for the Ducks last night. They’ve been a problem for the Cardinal for years. But it was a magnificent win over a despicable program. This vine gets my early vote for best vine of 2015. If you don’t lip read, he says, “Jamis, if you don’t calm the fuck down you’re going to the bench!”
As far as the Giants go, it’s still a long, slow Winter. I’m just hoping we don’t sign James Shields.
Got a lot to do today as I get ready for Pitbull’s New Year’s Revolution. With another year in the books, another championship year, it’s time to say goodbye to 2014 and welcome 2015…..
49 days till pitchers and catchers report. FYI: That’s also the same number of wins Jim Harbaugh had in SF.
Today is the 47 year anniversary of the Ice Bowl.
And that’s all I’ve got. And in case you missed the joke, I’m not really getting ready for Pitbull’s New Year’s Revolution. I think Pitbull’s an idiot.
How ever you choose to ring in the new year, enjoy yourself and don’t forget to take a moment to toast *3in5*—a reign that we might never seen again……
Now, I need to get back to scouring the internet for the next 2 weeks of BBOTD’s…. Muhuhuhahahaha!!!!!!!!
I really want your guys opinion on this because I think Bob Fitzgerald might be an idiot. A KNBR caller just threw out the following “Would you rather?” and Fitz basically thought it was too tough to call.
The caller said “Would you rather have the Bonds era or the World Series era?” Fitz went on and on about being a “regular season” guy and he leaned towards the Bonds era since he thought not only did you get the highs that Bonds brought the fans but he also felt like there were some teams (he noted ’93) that were significantly better than any of the 3 WS teams.
First of all, it doesn’t surprise me that Fitz is all about the regular season. He’s been broadcasting the Dub for 15 years and has never experienced what it’s like to win it all. So with the Warriors dominating this current regular season, this is his time to bask. In fact, this is the one and only time he’s had to bask. But still, he should know better.
I am all about Barry Bonds, he’s one of my favorite players of all time. But now that I have some perspective gifted to me by the “3in5 teams” there is no way I would trade the WS era for the Bonds era. NO FREAKING WAY. Not in a million years and it’s not even close (as it was for the pondering Fitz).
Thoughts? I would slap up a poll but I don’t think WordPress allows for that feature anymore. At least, I can’t find it anymore.
Also, regarding Harbaugh, I am 100% done with *Harbs talk*. Stop. He’s gone. The Bay Area media needs to move on. It’s like we’ve never had a coach leave before.
Shrouded in the darkness and cold of a post-Christmas/pre-New Year morning…..Juan Gutierrez has been resigned to a minor league deal. Not sure, but I think we’ve reached the bottom of the news barrel. And we all know what that means. It’s haiku time…
This one was written by Giants fan Steve Hermanos. It’s about Country Legend
Your expanding pants
Now accommodating balls
Big as tractor wheels
I forget when this started making the rounds on KNBR.I think it was mid October…..
Unca C here . . .
Found this restaurant 2 blocks from my office in the financial district . . .
I left the house early this morning to hit the gym—it was dark and cold. Heavy fog. I was like a *ghost into the fog*. Thank you, Counting Crows. Anyway, KNBR was re-playing the wild card game in Pittsburgh. The atrocious weather said it was not a good day for a baseball game. But it took all of one batter for me to get right back into it. Crawford had already hit his grand slam and Krukow was talking about Bumgarner “gaining confidence.” It was an odd thing to hear him say knowing the greatness that would unfold later.
KNBR is re-playing the entire post season starting now and running till the end of Christmas day. You out-of-towners should check to see if they’re also streaming it online. I’m going to have it on in the background whenever possible. I hadn’t realized how much I didn’t remember about that wild card game. I mean, I remember the Craw grand slam and….that’s about it. If pressed, I could recall Bum pitched the game, but I remember very few details. For instance, on my way back from the gym it was the 8th inning. The Giants were up 8-0. I was surprised to hear two straight runners got on because of back2back errors by Craw and Arias. No matter to Bumgarner who promptly struck out Jody Mercer and got MVP McCutchen to ground out meekly to shortstop.
I’m looking forward to hearing the rest of the post season games called by the home town broadcast team who always disappears come playoff time getting replaced by Joe Buck and Troy Aikman or whoever the fuck his broadcast partner is now. :)
It’s Christmas Eve and I am appreciating two things: 1) what I have and 2) memories of my life. Last night, one of our Flap friends *Denniszud* revealed some personal information that made me feel some of the pain he must be going through, especially at this time of year. Dennis, hang in there. Two flap up salute to you and Flap Nation has your back. I hope you know that.
Merry Christmas everyone….from the Flap Photo Bucket: denniszud in his best 1-flap down pose. lqtm
I’m ripping this off from the Merc but I think it’s too good to go unnoticed here if there are some Flappers who don’t read the Merc. They did a story on Jake Peavy, who bought a freaking real life cable car for his home in Alabama, and he disclosed this moment between him and Bum before Game 7:
“What Madison did (in Game 7), we’ve heard it time and time again, but I don’t even really have words to describe what he did in that stage and the moment he was in,” Peavy said. “I recall being in the outfield with Madison and talking about Jon Lester and him just wanting to be great. You’ve got to want to be great. You’ve got to have talent and ability but you’ve got to want to be great, and Madison has that.”
Peavy realized that when he was in the outfield with Bumgarner before Game 7.
“I guess I can probably say this now with it not sounding cocky or arrogant for Madison,” Peavy said. “I was sitting in the outfield with Madison and he was asking me how I thought the game was going to play out and he said, ‘If Huddy can get the ball to me, I can get it to Romo.’ I said to him, I said, ‘Madison, when you get the ball you’re not coming out of the game, pal. You’re the best guy we’ve got.’ And he goes, ‘Man, that’s exactly what I hoped you would say.’
“That’s exactly what he wanted. He just needed some confirmation and someone to believe in him as well. I told him: ‘You fight, big man. I think America would want to see you fight.’ What he did, it’s going to go down as the best ever.”
Just wild, awesome stuff. I’m so thankful for Peavy, Bumgarner, all of them. Our team is at the top once again and the haters can only stare at the ground, muttering to themselves, locked into a slow burn….
Just watch this. It’s so epic.
Honestly, my favorite moment of the vid is Rowand’s 2nd fist pump to the music at 5:09. That shit just got real. And who remembers who the 1st baseman was who caught the last out of the 2010 NLDS? I didn’t.
Wow. I declare December 19th, 2014 to be the most active December 19th The Flap has ever seen. A lot went down yesterday/last night. Let me try to re-cap.
1) The Giants got Casey McGehee. I’m all over this move. And the only way you aren’t all over this move too is if a) you were clamoring for Arias or Duvall to man third base next year or b) you have been championing the arrival of Kendry Flores and/or Luis Castillo to the big league level.
Since neither a nor b has occurred, ever, I trust that all of us are supportive of this pick up. True, CM doesn’t have a lot of power and his BABIP was high in the first half of last season contributing to an unsustainable batting average. He also has one too many e’s in his last name. But I’m moving past that or at least in process of doing so. :)
According to fangraphs.com he had a 2.0 WAR in 2014 and that’s fine. The Panda had a 3.0 WAR. He also had a better batting average and OBP than Sandoval. I’m not trying to suggest I’d rather have McGehee > Panda. But that food truck has left the yard. He’s a local kid who worked his ass off to get back to the big leagues (spent a year in Japan) and considering what our corner bag options were I will take Casey McGehee and appreciate Sabean for going 3 for 3 so far this off season (I support the Romo and Peavy deals, too).
2) Now, to the more interesting thread within last night’s thread. The manical brain of DJ Loo decided to go old school Flap triva on us and see if anyone recalled the blogger known as Cal_Stim25. That sent several of us into a dizzying journey deep into the annals of our foggy yesteryear. I actually didn’t try to google it because I thought he had posted on “Flap 1.0″ which is the blogger.com blog I started. Everything from blogger.com is dead/not accessible. Apparently James found some posts from him in 2010 which means he did post on this blog, or Flap 2.0. You can access any post made at this blog by clicking on the “Archives” to the right. You can also do it by punching the correct words into google. If you use the “search” feature to the right you can only search words used in main threads that I (or a stable boy) have written…..
The clues given by Loo were fantastic and the guesses from the Flappers *playing* were impressive. In the end, James won a prize that, fittingly, doesn’t exist yet. But fear not James, Loo is as legit as anyone when it comes to delivering gifts….
3) Regarding the Scott McClain bat that Twin gave me 5 or 6 years ago. I have been trying to coordinate with Snarkk for about a year to give him the bat because I know he would think it’s cool and I’ve enjoyed it long enough. We’ve come close a couple of times but it hasn’t happened yet. I tried finding a package to send it to him. Every time I walk into a UPS or a Western Union I look around casually for one. I have never found one. Giving it to him in person has been tough as we’ve most recently only gone to Giants games together and, shockingly, you aren’t allowed to bring a bat into a baseball game at AT&T Park. lqtm.
Currently the bat is in my office at work and I would say at least 75% of the people who enter pick the bat up and either explore it if it’s the first time they’ve seen it or hold on to it while we talk. It’s morphed into the center piece of my office. I usually keep it propped up against a wall or it just gets left on the couch. But I will pass it on to Snarkk when the right time presents itself.
Whew. Long thread (for December). Long re-cap (but fitting). Very cool December 19th, 2014 for us and probably no one else in the world.
Cal_Stim25, whatever keg party you are at today, we salute you…..
Pretty wild stuff coming out of San Diego. Not only did they add Kemp and Myers but they’ve also added Justin Upton and Derek Norris and reportedly are about to acquire Will Middlebrooks (part of ‘Kat just died a little bit).
The Giants, on the other hand have brought back Romo and Peavy. I like both moves.
Still, time is ticking and 2015 is starting to feel like 2014 without the post season.
But maybe that’s just the gray day talking…..
All I want for Christmas is an outfielder, a Max Sherzer and a 3rd baseman. In that order. We absolutely need a competent, major league outfielder. Not a platoon guy or someone converted to outfield. A legit outfielder. I don’t know who that is going to be but if the Padres can get creative enough to trade for Wil Myers AND Matt Kemp then I have to believe that Sabes has it in him to bring in a real outfielder in 2015. Blanco is going to need to play CF when Pagan hits the DL and when Pagan is playing we need a LF that isn’t Blanco who we know can’t play a full season at any position. I love Blanco, for all the same reasons you guys do. But we need an outfielder, badly.
Next, I want Sabean to sign Sherzer to a 6 year/150 million deal. I think it’s possible to get him for this *bargain price* with so many big market teams dropping out on him.
Thirdly, for 3rd, I want the Giants to trade a box of cigars for David Freese. Not only are cigars on the cheap now but Freese can perform at replacement level for the year and not make me wonder how Adam Duvall would do at the position.
How do you guys rank those 3 obvious needs?
Just killing time, but I thought we could kick around the “Justin Upton trade thing” making the rounds right now. I call it a *thing* and not a *rumor* because I don’t think the Giants would ever in a million years put together the right trade package that it would take to get J-Up.
There are at least 2 main reasons that he wouldn’t want to come to SF.
#1: His tweet from 3 years ago is fairly indicative of his feelings:
#2: He wouldn’t get to play with his brother anymore. Speaking of that, BJ Upton is one of the worst hitters in either league. Why would Atlanta trade Justin and keep The Human Swing Through? If anything, I’d take them both just to keep Justin’s spirits up. BJ could be Justin’s butler. He could drive him around to different strip joints. I dunno. And you’d think Atlanta would be happy to get rid of BJ who literally looks like he can’t see the ball when he swings. Check it out sometime, it’s pretty hilarious.
Someone should show J-Up how his 29 homeruns would have done at AT&T Park last year:
Regardless, it would be unbelievably risky for the Giants to package up 2-3 players (and it would be at least Crick and Panic) for a guy in his walk-year who, for all we know, doesn’t like SF for reasons other than the ball traveling like crap here. You would think he’d care about winning a championship but as this free agent season has shown us, ballplayers don’t seem too worried about winning. They just take the fattest dollar offer that gets put in front of them.
He doesn’t have a no-trade clause so if we traded for him he would have to play here. With what attitude, I don’t know…..
When Jed Lowrie gets 24 million dollars it’s time to take a step back and just let all the madness unfold. I think I would prefer the Giants going out and unearthing Brian Bocock from wherever he might be. Convert him to 3rd base. At least we’d have a solid glove over there. Not to mention we could fire up all the *bigcock* jokes the blog could handle…..
I just can’t support multi-year deals for players who I don’t really want anyway just to fill a hole we have for one year. And please God NO Asdrubal Cabrera.
If the Giants plugged Adam Duvall in at 3rd and The White Shark into LF and signed Max Sherzer would you guys feel confident about heading into 2015? And before everyone freaks out at such prospects don’t forget that the Giants won their last 2 World Series’ with Blanco playing regularly.
And so long to this guy. Short stay, good Giant
Why would any player who has market value accept a qualifying offer? Ten of the 12 have already signed big deals and the 2 guys who haven’t signed yet are named Sherzer and Shields.
I don’t even really understand why a team makes a qualifying offer if they know it’s going to be rejected. Draft picks are no longer given to the teams who give qualifying offers and lose the player to another team. Or maybe they are to team who lose a player who played the entire season with them? I’m unclear on the rules, if anyone has a good link I’d appreciate it.
Either way, since they always get rejected and the player always goes on to sign a giant multi-year deal with someone else, it all seems like a waste of time to me…..
Now that Melky is off the table, let’s look at the remaining top free agents. Do you see any of them wearing our uniform next year?
While I haven’t been too concerned about not getting a piece of this year’s free agent crop at some point we do need to fill some holes. One of these guys has to be an SF Giant next year, right?
I read this morning that Brandon Morrow has 6 offers on the table. I started hoping the Giants were one of the 6. I’ve always liked Morrow, even back when he was a Cal Bear. Electric stuff. But like most guys who throw too hard he can’t stay healthy. Still, I’ve wanted him on our team for years.
And then I re-thought it. Why would Sabean take a chance on a guy with his injury history. He wouldn’t. If he breaks down in June it’s just another huge hole to fill in the middle of the season. The Giants almost never have a starting pitcher break down in the middle of the season. There was Cain and that’s about all I can remember without my coffee yet.
So while I’d love to see Morrow on a make-good 1 year MLB deal I don’t see how that would come to pass. Again, Morrow is the type of guy a *0in5* team takes a flier on…..
James Shields is the next FA on the Giants radar and I genuinely hope they don’t get him. They aren’t going to get him, he’s got like 6 teams going after him. And when we he doesn’t sign with SF I will breath a sigh of relief. A guy like Shields is someone a *0in5* team takes a chance on. It would satiate the hungry fan base (for a short time).
Shields is going to have close to 2000 innings on his arm after next season. Do you really want a guy like that for 6 more years? He’s not dominant, he’d spend what is likely one of his last healthy seasons learning the NL (remember when Zito used that excuse?) and the bottom line is that we don’t want to deal with this guy….
That cliche “the best deal is the one you don’t make” is being overused but I think it’s an appropriate description so far for our off season. I’m not bummed about a single one of these guys we haven’t signed (including the Panda).
Preliminary feelings after finding out we lost out on Loser. Er, Lester….
Bobby Evans needs to tighten up his comments to the public. Telling us that Lester “didn’t give us a rose” was just about the lamest, limpest thing I’ve ever heard come out of SF Giants management PR.
Speaking of roses, I think we’re gonna come out smelling like one. No Lester, especially if he goes to the Cubs (#deadgiveaway), is going to be something we appreciate as the years go on and we go 4in6 or 4in7 or 5in…you get the point……
What I do not get is why we keep coming in 2nd place on these free agents. Maybe before 3in5 I could see the reasons. But I don’t get why players don’t want to come into this windfall win factory.
Whatever, I stopped trying to keep up with Sabean a long time ago. He’ll do what’s right. He almost always does……
And am I the only one who’s beyond impatient on what the 2014 ring is going to look like? I swear to God I think about that multiple times a day. #ringfetish
The Oakland A’s infield next season could very well be Ike Freaking Davis, Joey Wendel, Marcus Semien and Brett Lawie. I can’t even comprehend what Beane’s mindset is. The dude has had his run of success but that doesn’t mean it will always be that way. If you were even considering being a season ticket holder with the A’s why would you pay for this nonsense?
Niner talk time. I haven’t seen my Niner friends this pissed off about anything, ever, lol. I don’t think it’s Kaep and the dumbass squigley line his has shaven into his head. I don’t think it’s his petulant press interviews. I don’t even think it’s about how bad he and the team play. I don’t think it’s about Harbaugh or the OC or even all these losses. I think Niner fans just got so worked up and excited about recapturing the glory days, combined with coming so close over the last few years, that it’s just hard to watch it all come crashing down so quickly….without a Super Bowl.
Again, the Giants have gifted up something over the last 5 years that we should never, ever take for granted. It’s once in a lifetime stuff.
But that’s something you guys already new.
Now, back to Niner bashing…….
Football all day today, but I did have a quick SF Giants thought: I was happy to hear that the Giants are not in on Headley “at the 65 million dollar level.” If we signed Headley it would remind me of the Edgardo Alfonso signing back in ’03–with significantly more dough tied into it.
Niners/Raiders today. Winner will celebrate not being a piece of shit.
The Baseball Winter Meetings are approaching and I can’t imagine a more underwhelming event for Giants fans. Sabean doesn’t do his work at the Winter Meetings. And with San Diego falling out of the top 10 in “Cities with the Best Strip Clubs” it could make for a glum week for our leader. It’s close enough to Mexico for him to make a party of it but I’m not expecting much.
Do you see the Giants doing anything at the Winter Meetings this year?
I had a thought coming into work this morning. I can never again question anything Brian Sabean does. While I was one of the only Flappers to support the acquisition of Jake Peavy on the day of the trade….
…..I never envisioned that Giants team capable of even getting to the playoffs (much less winning another World Series).
In fact, just a day or so after the Peavy trade I penned these now famous words uttered by my elder statesman:
At that time, the Dodger trolls were out in force and even Flap Universe was predicting a sad sunset on our season.
Naturally, we won the World Series. And it all started with Brian Sabean. Well, you could make an argument that it all started with Dan Uggla sucking so badly that Sabes was forced into calling up a second baseman who he publicly discredited prior to the call up.
But whatever, that’s quibbling with genius. And since most of us don’t understand true genius, we don’t understand Brian Sabean. And the bottom line is that he knows more than we do. The proof is “3 in 5″. For Giants fans, that’s rad. For Giants blogs, not so much…..
Just a random screen shot of 2 unknown Giants fans hoopin’ and hollerin’ it up after Ishikawa’s bomb
I started kicking this around last night and this morning decided to list off as many reasons as I could think of for why a player would want to come to play in San Francisco. We’ve been conditioned to think that hitters are generally repelled by the idea of playing at AT&T but if after reading the list, wouldn’t pretty much ANY player want to come to SF?
1) 3 in 5. The obvious one. If you want to win, this is the place to be.
2) you get to play in maybe the best ball park in the league in front of a packed house every night.
3) no matter how bad you play the press will leave you alone.
4) team chemistry– by all accounts, it’s a fun clubhouse to be in
5) you play for the best manager in baseball. In addition, the coaches are all considered to be outstanding as well as “players coaches.”
6) San Francisco is a great city. Go back and look at Bryce Harper’s tweets after spending a few days here. If a douchbag like him can appreciate The City, anyone can.
7) no humidity and very few rain delays or rain outs
8) After winning a World Series, and you are a free agent, Sabean will likely shower you with a more lucrative contract than anyone else. After the Panda left I now can only use the word “likely”.
9) you walk right into one of the great rivalries in sports
The Cons List?
I dunno, maybe a liberally area like this might not be your scene.
That’s all the cons I could come up with.
thoughts? What am I missing?