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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 5, 2010

I’m really looking forward to how the team does today in Milwaukee. After the longest extra inning game in Col history and leaving everything they had on the field, they have to fly to Milwaukee and play today. I can’t imagine too many of our guys have their legs under them right now.  Brewers are “only” -115 to beat us tonight. Wow…..

Everyone is harping on the Bochy decision to replace Posey with Whitey and it’s a valid thing to be upset about but that’s just one of many decisions that managers make every game that didn’t happen to work out. Dumb? Well, the decision is something that would have never even entered my mind. But the reality is, we lost when we sent tired vet after tired vet up to hit and fail. Rowand, Uribe and Renteria don’t look like they can hit anything out of the infield these days. I love Uribe but he needs a rest. The problem is that Renteria needs a longer one.  True, he still clings to a .300+ batting average but look at the hits he’s getting. Of his 39 hits on the year he’s got 7 extra base hits. That’s pathetic. It’s July 5th, you can’t have only 7 extra base hits…. Enough with Renteria. I’d freaking rather see Emmanuel Burriss out there, at least he’d bring some speed and electricity to this sagging offense…..

We are in a very tough situation right now and while it would be nice to never see Whitey play, he’s not the reason this offense sucks right now. The majority of the position players can look at themselves and own that responsibility….

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  1. James said, on July 5, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    Yep, Jed, that is the difference between our staff and San Diego’s. The Ks do compensate somewhat. There are a couple of teams with better WHIPs, but worse ERAs.

  2. wswinb4igo said, on July 5, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    no doubt the biggest dissapointment….sandoval

  3. blade3colorado said, on July 5, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    Thank you wsw

  4. max808 said, on July 5, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    yeah, while everyone focuses on the usual suspects, Pablo quietly going 12 for 72 w/risp.

  5. stixwiz said, on July 5, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    Yup, Pablo has been close to putrid. Now right around league average in hitting, though still some good work with the glove. Would love to see him dropped to 7th or 8th in the order, but then who the hell would rise in the LU?

  6. eddacker415 said, on July 5, 2010 at 2:33 pm

    Ishi is playing for rancisco
    Let’s go Gents

  7. snarkk said, on July 5, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    I give Bonehead credit. He actually went out to the mound and got on Sanchy’s ass, and that brought him out of the funk, at least for now. Then, he called for the pickoff move that got the runner out. Chalk one up for Bonehead on that series of events. As for Panda, an inning ago the TV feed showed two fat dudes in the stands chowing on ice cream. One of ’em looked just like Panda. But, he lays off the high pitches….

  8. eddacker415 said, on July 5, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    and nobody got on in front of franchez. Damn

  9. zumarust said, on July 5, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    Corey Hart has the face of a Yeti.

  10. alleykat said, on July 5, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    19 game hitting streak for Hart.

  11. twinfan said, on July 5, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    Absolutely no doubt that Panda has been a huge disappointment but Bochy is right to finally put a halt to the tinkering and over analysis. The guy has been indecisive as much as swinging at bad pitches…

  12. snarkk said, on July 5, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    Giants gotta score on Bush on the 3rd time thru the order. The league has been crushing this dude…

  13. alleykat said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    MR. Disappointment knocks in Mr.Impressive, new ballgame 1-1.

  14. twinfan said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    Just your basic 6 inning 1 run 200 pitch outing from Dirttttty…

  15. Craig said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Unfuckingbelievable. Fuck renteria he is less than worthless

  16. alleykat said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Fuck you Renteria!!!!!!! You are totally worthless along with Rowand!!!!!!!!!!!!

  17. wswinb4igo said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    we could use the luck…

  18. Craig said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    Too funny. Thanks? Franchez did his best to fuck that up

  19. alleykat said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    What a gift.Taylor made DP.Can’t believe we could ketch a break for once.

  20. twinfan said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    Well, in a knock down drag out battle of the Doggy Dooda shortstops, the Brew guy pulls out a rousing victory… terrible inning in the field for Escobar..

  21. wswinb4igo said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:34 pm


  22. alleykat said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    Huff is just amazing.Great AB’s every time.

  23. dirtnrocksnreno said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    The ground attack is firing on all cylinders today.

  24. snarkk said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    We’ll take the runs instead of the DP. Thank Yew Brew Crew. Huff, hands down now MVP first half. Dude is nails on grinding the ABs. Hafta laugh at Kruk and Kuip. Extolling how Panda is close to solving the RH batting woes. On cue, he immediately strikes out on the high cheese, yet again…

  25. James said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    Nice AB by Torres, too, after the wasted sacrifice attempt. Put the pressure right back on the Brewers.

  26. stixwiz said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    Ahhh. That delicious Milwaukee bullpen. Too bad the Giants are in the NL West where 4 of the 5 BPs are anywhere from somewhat respectable to out and out awesome. Wonder what kinda bug got up Charlie Manuel’s ass against the Dagos. Oh well, at least he didn’t diss the Giants much for the AS team this go-round. Best news on him is that its more unlikely at this time that Philly will repeat in the WS than the Giants could appear. Now that’s unlikely!

  27. alleykat said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    Yeah that was laugable Snarrk.Of course they say that about Rowand after every AB how close he is too breaking out.

  28. twinfan said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    Although left handed, Panda’s two out RBI is still the hit of the game.

  29. Jed said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Has Huff become the heart-n-soul of this team?

  30. snarkk said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    I’m outta here. Itz upto the Pen now. Gotta shut this one down, start and win streak, and stop the bleedin…

  31. twinfan said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    As Casilla innings go, pretty humdrum…

  32. DaddyO said, on July 5, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    Posey oppo

  33. alleykat said, on July 5, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    Posey should hurt his wrist more often.

  34. Craig said, on July 5, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    It’s been hurt. Hr aside this is a real concern if he’s hurt it worse.

  35. DaddyO said, on July 5, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    I’m liking Ray as part of the Molina deal. The Rangers announcers had nothing but good things to say about him. But with Francisco and Feliz in the 8th and 9th innings, I guess they felt they could do without him more than they could do without Bengie. A former closer for the Orioles. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him gravitate to be the 8th inning guy for us.

  36. twinfan said, on July 5, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    He already is.

  37. wswinb4igo said, on July 5, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    If Sabean can get that kind of return for Molina, there may be hope for him yet…!

  38. DaddyO said, on July 5, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    I’ve read where the kid who went to AA is a solid pickup too. Former first rounder.

  39. wswinb4igo said, on July 5, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    why didn’t he let rowand stay in and play d and take out Huff whos gassed…

  40. stixwiz said, on July 5, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    Bit of hitting today was nice to see. Of course Bochy had to bat Row-Row for Pat the Bat and we all know how that turned out.

    Latest stats as of today on run producers: Small sample size, but best RP/AB ratio currently belongs to Travis at .366. Huff comes in a strong, steady second with his All-Star performance of .332. Torres is a reasonably respectable .260, although his playmaking skills make him far better than that stat. Sanchez is a tolerable ,253, Playing out of position for most of his ABs, Posey is at .237. Bringing up the tail-section of today’s run producers is none other than Pablo at .232, exactly 100 points lower than Huff the Magic Dragon.

  41. stixwiz said, on July 5, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    Spose it could be said that Drrrty was effectively wild today. Enough walkers for an old folks home, but not very much stick action from a team with a fair bit of pop playing in their own yard. He would be a big upgrade for everyone on their staff except Gallardo, just in case it was Showcase Day. Fielder didn’t show much, but then it ain’t easy facing Drrrty.

    Bullpen did a nice clean job. Casilla was almost as wild as Sanchez ,but with only one BB, got the job done. Runzler was calm with that nice big lead. And that guy pitching the 8th definitely stands out as a Ray of hope for the relief corps.

  42. stixwiz said, on July 5, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    42-40 looks one fuck of a lot better than 41-41. Nice to start out the second half of the season with a big, fat W. In fact this game was a real pick me up, as tired as some of those guys had to be. Huff was totally amazing. Mucho props! Pitching matchups through the rest of the series look pretty positive. Winning the first of a 4-gamer and then having the edge in SPs for the remaining three gives the whole thing a positive feel to it. A split does not look at all intimidating now and a series win becomes a distinct possibility.

  43. James said, on July 5, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    Stix, Torres’s runs scored totals aren’t what they should be because of the other poor numbers at the top of the order, save Huff. Franchez, after his gift RBI and run scored today, is at .222, based on PAs. W/o the gift, he was basically at his crummy career tuns produced average.

  44. zumarust said, on July 5, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    Someone on ExtraBaggs pointed out that there’s a Bochy bobblehead day on Aug. 14th, so probably guaranteeing Bochy wouldn’t be fired before Aug. 14th. But it is very doubtful Bochy would be fired mid-season anyway. That’s just not the Giants style these days. Bochy had a good day today. I think we all appreciated it when he got in J.Sanchez’s face about throwing strikes.

    • mrmrbill said, on July 5, 2010 at 9:33 pm

      zuma, that’s not a bobblehead. It’s a voodoo doll.

  45. twinfan said, on July 5, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    They had some good shots of him in the dugout. He did not look like he was in a good mood. My conjecture on what he told Sanchez was that if he kept walking guys, he’d pull him when his ERA hit 6 for the YEAR…

  46. twinfan said, on July 5, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    We’re going to go back up to Bea’s cabin again tomorrow, probably spend a lot more time there now. I’m finally able to get real physical exercise, after years really… Bea is a retired attorney, her daughter ( by coincidence) is a med student at UCSF. We have become quite close, nicely so…

  47. DaddyO said, on July 5, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    Ely lasted 2.2 innings for the Doyers. Marlins lead 6 – 4 through four.

  48. twinfan said, on July 5, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Think I heard they face three LHers in a row. Real test here, I think Bochy has to give Travis at least a couple of those starts. He seems to have little power againt lefties but at .267, he’s hardly lost.

  49. twinfan said, on July 5, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    Update on Brandon Belt: now 5 for 11 with 2 HRs at Richmond after leading the minor leagues in hitting at San Jose.

  50. delmardennis said, on July 5, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    Yes siree Bob. Wolf, Narveson and Parra in that order. Bochy *should* give Ishi at least two of those three. But I ain’t gonna hold my breath. Expect to see Whitey catch one with Buster going to first. Another will have Rowand in center moving Huff to first base. But Aubrey said on the post game he was scheduled to get a breather, hinted at tomorrow. I say Ishi starts tomorrow, if at all.

  51. delmardennis said, on July 5, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Uribe is 1 for his last 26. Shit, I don’t even think B-I-N-G-O has that number in its hopper. Add Renteria’s 1 for his last 19 and we’re kind of stuck at SS. Do we have to field a player at that position? Getting the middle of a donut outta that spot.

  52. wswinb4igo said, on July 5, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Dennis…thanks for the heads up to them at 15/1 to win the west…I just pressed that…interesting tho that they are less than that to win the NL pennant…only 12/1…If this offense can score like they should, this PS can go twice around and run off 10 in arow or 13 for 15….I like that 15/1 shot

  53. stixwiz said, on July 5, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    Great news on Belt, TF. Wasn’t sure how he would handle that E.L. pitching. Kieschnick, Ford & Co. certainly haven’t. Neal started out the same way but has been picking it up a bit lately. It will be interesting to watch Belt over the next few weeks. Will that league slow him down at some point or will he do another Panda on us? The stats of those two at SJ were fairly similar, at least in terms of OPS.

    Big difference from Sandoval is the build. This guy is a long, lanky Texan. July is still pretty young. Even though the Chi WS have interest in Prince Fielder, Belt’s performance at Richmond determines for me whether a shot should be made at a Drrrty for Prince swap. I’m still more inclined towards a speedy outfielder along the lines of what we suffered at the hands (and feet) of Dexter Fowler at Denver. But who says we must make a trade? I’m still more of a mind for change at the top.

    Not sure whether or not Brandon Crawford has it to be the Giants SS of the future. The way Renteria has been flopping and with Uribe desperately needing some quiet time, maybe if a trade is made it should be aimed at a shortstop. Can’t cite a probable candidate right off the top, but there has to be one who would be at least a decent fill-in for Uribe. One possible trade chip would be Fresno”s Brock Bond, who apparently is strictly a second baseman. Bond currently is sixth in the entire PCL in OBP. He has no power and no great speed, fields his position okay, but has a great batting eye as not only his OBP per se, but also his favorable BB-K ratio attests. If Freddy Sanchez wasn’t around for awhile i’d be tempted to give him a shot, that also would depend on the manager being someone who is not averse to giving youngsters a solid chance.

    It would appear that the team will be long one in the BP and short a player on the bench through this Milwaukee-Washington run. Which reliever gets Fresnoed during the Break?
    No way the team starts the next homestand with such an imbalance, but the road Trek makes it sensible for now.

  54. mrmrbill said, on July 5, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    Nice game! And a two-peat wouldn’t be bad, either.

  55. mrmrbill said, on July 5, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    The ‘Camp Panda’ thing was a fail … or temporary upgrade that has slid back. He’s fatter and less mobile than last year. His defensive range on stretch balls in play is worse. Need to put a ‘conditioning’ on that contract.

  56. willied said, on July 5, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    I hear this one all the time, that Bochy doesn’t know how to handle the kids…
    Like Frandsen, who had one late end of the season month of decent ball?
    Bowker, who had one short spell of power in one spring?
    Nate, who sucked for last two months of last season?
    Velez, who had how many chances to show what he could do at mlb level?
    Guzman? Travis Denker? Orty?
    Downs and Rohlinger? Are any of above mlb players, really?

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