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How to Avoid the Dreaded Curse of “Zito’s Law”….

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 13, 2010

Actually, that was a trick question, there’s no way to avoid it. The only question is how it will unfold in a game…

Zito’s Law: “Whe he pitches, dumb shit happens”

The theorems (with slight generalizations):

1) Zito will always get outpitched by the opposing pitcher. It could be just barely or obviously, but he will always get out-pitched

2) Our bats will go silent on days he pitches.

3) We will commit some dumbass defensive miscue at least twice  a game

4) Opponents hardest hit balls will always head in the direction of our slowest, least athletic players

5) If we ever manage to score a run, ZIto will automatically walk the first two batters of the next inning

6) The opponent’s game winning hit will always come from their worst hitter

There are probably some others, feel free to add them into the thread. Tuesday is Zito vs Kershaw. And let the law unfold…….

There seems to be some disagreement over who are leadoff hitter will be. As many have pointed out, it’s an overrated role since the leadoff hitter usually only leads off an inning once a game. But what’s not overrated is speed and defense. And I don’t see how we can keep running Burrell and Guillen out there with anyone other than Ford in CF. If they want to go with an outfield of Burrell/Rowand/Ross I could moderately dig that. Maybe Burrell/Ross/Schierholz– in that case I was thinking they could bat Franchez first since he got some experience but now that I heard he’s limping on a bad knee again that idea is probably off the shelf. Ross has almost no experience batting leadoff…….

It won’t happen but the best idea is to run Darren Ford out there. With no book on him he could easily get away with a successful 10 game run at the plate. And his speed and defense would allow Bochy to still go “Water Buffalo Defense” in the outfield…….

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  1. raymond said, on September 13, 2010 at 6:47 am

    I agree! ford is the best option if if he’s a minus with the bat…he’ll put pressure on the defense everytime he’s up even if he hits a infield grounder!

  2. DJLoo said, on September 13, 2010 at 7:21 am

    There’s really talk about Podsednik? Shit, I would think Rajai or Coco would be more realistic.

  3. Giant Head said, on September 13, 2010 at 7:26 am

    I will check back in yesterday’s comemnts if anyone commented on my idea to start Manny Burriss at leadoff and short…betetr than Velez at lead and I am not sold on Ford being able to take on major league pitching wehen he has never taken a swing…Franchez’ disability with his legs prevents him from being an adequate leadoff option.

    1) Burriss – SS
    2) Franchez – 2B
    3) Posey – C
    4) Burrell – LF
    5) Huff – RF
    6) Uribe – 3B
    7) Panda – 1B
    8) Rowand/Ross – CF

    • Giant Head said, on September 13, 2010 at 7:28 am

      especially with the lefty Kershaw tomorrow, this would be a potent lineup…I still think Huff should be hitting 5th…

      • vrrbrcrrr said, on September 13, 2010 at 2:36 pm

        Panda hasn’t been lefties well this year…

  4. DJLoo said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:00 am

    Twin will love this. I was wondering if there is any known connection between the use of any substance or medication (prescribed, legal, illegal or otherwise), and the onset of appendicitis.

    • willied said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:44 am

      Why you start this shit and get Twin fired up on an off day? What medications was Torres on that you know of? Seriously tho, might want to look into what happened with Stauffer, who had an appendectomy when he was here in mid-May. He talked about how afterwards you can’t do anything for a week or so because of danger internally of stitches coming undone, etc. He returned after about a month. His words, quoted in the Chron today, “After 3 weeks or so, I felt good to go. “

  5. Giant Head said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:06 am

    Twin made reference to Fontenot at leadoff…that i snot bad and he could play short obviously. He has veteran savy, plays defense pretty well and still can move around the bases. Of course, he probably should not start against Kershaw.

  6. JBat said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:26 am

    G’s need 5 of 6 on this homestand. The Rockies are making me nervous and they don’t need any help.

    • Giant Head said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:42 am

      I will take 4 off 6, I expect Colorado is going to sweep the finished Padres. That should put us in first with a one game lead over the Rockies when we take first two from the Bastardos.

      The Dagos will fall 2.5 games behind us and will landslide downward…our best hope is having Zito not start that first game in Colorado and for St. Louis to stay in their division and wild card hunt and taking apart the Rockies at home in the last 4 games of the season.

      If anyone hasn’t noticed, I dont think Ubaldo Jiminez has pitched more than 6 innings for the last month…will this Rockie bullpen keep it up?

  7. willied said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:36 am

    Please, enough of the idea Ford starts. That shit might happen if we were the Pirates and 30 games out, but not now. He doesn’t know jack shit about Kershaw or anyone else that has mlb talent level stuff. He doesn’t know our park or any other, and doesn’t know how our pitchers pitch opposing hitters, or how they hit, or how to play them. Give him a couple home games to get comfortable, play an inning or two, and then maybe. Coors, our first stop next week, isn’t an easy place to play either, lot of room to cover.

    The OF will sort itself out, and as Bochy said, “…it’s a great opportunity, and you move on.” I’m more interested in what happens to Bum. Zito Cain Sanchez vs. LA, then it’s his turn at home vs. Brewers. How much longer can they keep running him out there? Do you limit the pitch count? Take him out after 5, no matter if he is dealing like he has been? The days off we have each week provide some cushion…could you go 4 man to the end?

  8. Giant Head said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:38 am

    Welll I keep trying to post our fantasy league numbers and the site wont let me…is this a Blade conspiracy to hide the fact of the closing noose tightening on his lead???

    Flav, one poiunt behind, the Giant Heads are keeping close 3 points behind and Hillbillys are in the hunt, 5 points back…

  9. Kevin said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:42 am

    BF, to add to your list, if the Giants score a run Zito gives up a dinger to their 8th hitter, and is a Kuiper who only has one homer for the year!!

  10. Giant Head said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:48 am

    Of course, I forgot about Jimenez’ 8 inning loss to Timmy at home…he has pitched just 6 innings in 3 of his last 5 starts and the one where he pitched 8 and 7 innings, he lost.

    I just cant think they Rockies will bve able to sustain their pitching when we go into that series in 11 days…

  11. Big Flavor said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:51 am

    only because you asked to see it. Blade, this is going to end badly for you… 🙂
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    2. Flavor 8.5 9 6 11 7 7 9 9 11 9 86.5
    3. Giant Head 12 7 11 10 9 4 12 5 9 5.5 84.5
    4. Hillbilly Giants 5 8 10 2 11 11 3 11 10 11 82
    5. Tizzle 8.5 10.5 7 6 1.5 8 7 6 12 12 78.5
    6. NoTalent 6.5 6 5 9 3 10 11 12 3 5.5 71
    7. Clowns R Us 6.5 5 9 3 5 12 5 7 7.5 8 68
    8. Ferretball 3 3 4 12 1.5 6 10 8 7.5 10 65
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    • Giant Head said, on September 13, 2010 at 9:06 am

      thanks Flav and I agree:))))

  12. JBat said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:56 am

    I’d take four of six too, GH, but both the Dodgers and Brew Crew are mediocre. We need to capitalize on these games. There’s plenty of tough ones coming up. I’m hoping the Rockies will lose a few once the streak is snapped.

    Man, everything is so tight now. No team can really afford a loss. I hope the Giants don’t let down after the big weekend series and the road trip.

    • Giant Head said, on September 13, 2010 at 9:07 am

      JBat, check out my prediction and that is based on going 4 of 6 this week…I have the Rockies going 5-1 this week…

  13. Giant Head said, on September 13, 2010 at 9:00 am

    If the Rockies hold serve on their rotation it would be:

    1) Lincecum-De La Rosa (advantage Giants)
    2) Zito – Francis (push)
    3) Cain-Chacin (advantage Giants)

    Something tells me that they would skip Francis’ turn in order to get Jimenez to pitch that last game on Sunday against Sanchez. So may be more likely to see:

    1) Lincecum-De La Rosa (Giants advantage)
    2) Zito-Francis (push)
    3) Cain-Jimenez (what a great matchup…but push)

    But what we should do is skip Zito and go with:

    1) Lincecum-De La Rosa (Giants advantage)
    2) Cain-Francis (big Giant advantage)
    3) Sanchez-Jimenez (push, but still a great matchup)

  14. Giant Head said, on September 13, 2010 at 9:06 am

    I officially predict and I have been pretty good of late that we will be .5 game ahead of the Rockies when that series starts.

    If we can take two of three, we would get a 1.5 game small cushion. They will cut it to a game beating the Dodgers on the 27th on the way to sweeping the Dodgers and we take the first two agaisnt Arizona.

    So the Rockies will be a game out when they go into St. Louis and we have one more against AZ and three against SD. We win those first two as Colorado splits, will give us a 2 game lead with two to play. We win that Saturday game against the Padres and we clinch the NL West! Rockies could even win those last two in St. Louis and they wont catch us!!!

  15. stixwiz said, on September 13, 2010 at 9:16 am

    Sometimes when a key player goes down some of his teammates will draw on previously untapped reserves to make up the deficit. Teams with a lot of character and indomitable spirit do tend to evoke that extra measure. One guy whom i kinda expect to pick it up a bit during the homestand anyway is Pablo. As a road warrior he has been the dumps this season. His favorite bamboo grove is located on the shores of China Basin. Gritty, grizzled veterans like Huff, Burrell, Uribe, Guillen and maybe even the RentMan, hungry for success, may also ratchet it up a notch or two.

    Specifically filling Torres’ spikes may get complicated. Personally, i think it may be Nate’s time to shine. His future with the team going into the next season may demand that. He has the tools. I’d feel a lot better about him in Center than Rowand. Maybe Ross on certain matchups. Ford maybe in piecework situations.

    The pitching is there. If Zito has any pride and sense of honor regarding his humongous salary, he will turn in a couple of quality starts out of his last four. Barry does that and the Division is virtually guaranteed. Bumgarner is a big ol country boy and should be able to stretch it out a bit more. But if the team has like a three run lead after five (or deficit) he should be pulled. Should the team get a two or three game Divisional lead, it might be possible to let him sit. Chances are, he wouldn’t like that, though. Relief corps matched well with that of the Pads over the last 4. No big worries there.

  16. zumarust said, on September 13, 2010 at 9:28 am

    That’s a bummer talking about Zito. And on a MONDAY, no less. (grin)

  17. zumarust said, on September 13, 2010 at 9:29 am

    My opinion about Rowand- play him this week or release him. It’s stupid to have a 12 million dollar back-up centerfielder that you CAN’T EVEN USE when the starting centerfielder goes down.

  18. James said, on September 13, 2010 at 9:56 am

    Michael defended Guillen’s ABs. All I see is exactly what his stats from the last few years tell us: an aging hacker who no longer has sufficient skills to overcome his lack of patience at the plate for any significant stretch of playing time. He is no better than Rowand or Nate or Ross. Any one of the 4 (including Guillen) could go on a tear over the next couple of weeks. It’s a crap shoot. In any case, batting Guillen ahead of Burrell is a grotesque insult, even if it’s only a minor strategic error.

  19. DJLoo said, on September 13, 2010 at 10:09 am

    Torres’ misfortune assures Rowand a spot on the post-season roster (if).
    Ishikawa might not be so lucky…

  20. Giant Head said, on September 13, 2010 at 10:41 am

    If we get to the post-season, I could see us going 11 pitchers, 4 starters, 6 in the pen and 14 position players. We would liekly have a starting 8 if Torres is 100% of:

    Starters: Torres, Burrell, Guillen, Huff, Franchez, Uribe, Panda and Posey.

    Bench: Ishikawa, Whiteside, Renteria, Schierholtz, Ross and Rowand…

  21. 3bagger said, on September 13, 2010 at 10:48 am

    The Giants have been on a roll lately, while Torres has been struggling at the plate. So, it’s his defense we’ll miss most right now. As much as I don’t think Boch will do it, the situation calls for Ford to get a shot in center. If he can take a walk, get an infield hit, or maybe reach on an error because of his speed just once a game, that’s all we need. And if he can cover the gaps to allow Burrell to stay in left, Boch can continue to throw Guillen out in right, although I’d rather see Ross or even Nate at this point.

  22. TedSpe said, on September 13, 2010 at 10:50 am

    Ross? Sure. Nate? Not so much.

    • 3bagger said, on September 13, 2010 at 10:53 am

      If there is a question about Ford’s D, Nate might be the guy to have in right so Ford can concentrate on the LF gap. If For’s D skills match his speed, then I’d go with Ross.

  23. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 11:26 am

    I’m not even going to discuss the drug induced theory that Ford is the best option…
    On the Splash Xoot proposed that one Google Adderall and Appendicitis, presumably with the notion that a revelation would be discovered. Really, I worry about Xoot. I have done a lot of internet searches on medical issues, as you might imagine. As anyone who has done the same can attest, just about anything can be caused by just about anything. So to answer Looigi’s question, Torres could have come down with acute appendicitis because he is a cocaine addict, an alcoholic, had a huge turd blocking whatever huge turds block… I suspect Looigi’s real question is about steroids. The answer is:
    No, people take steroids and people get appendicitis. One doesn’t cause the other.
    Next fucking idiot, yer up…

  24. TedSpe said, on September 13, 2010 at 11:32 am

    Actually, I read somewhre appendicitis *does* cause steroid use.
    (buh-dum-dum)

  25. Kevin said, on September 13, 2010 at 11:48 am

    Speaking of Fucking Idiots, Fishwrap and Barryforever were predictable as ever!!

  26. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 11:58 am

    Yeah, those are a couple of the guys ( with Stan and the Sopher) who declare how great the Splash is without yours truly. Quite the endorsement, really… hey, in Googling Xooter’s lead I found that if you can wrangle a prescription for Adderall and Ritalin, you can snort them and approximate a coke high!!!
    Love that Google!

  27. James said, on September 13, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    “. . . Torres has been struggling at the plate. So, it’s his defense we’ll miss most right now.” This assumes that Torres would have continued to struggle. With all of the line up shuffling of inadequate players during the last couple of years, it seems like we’ve forgotten how to appreciate what it means to have a few very good regulars.

    • 3bagger said, on September 13, 2010 at 12:55 pm

      That’s why I said “right now.”

  28. xootsuit said, on September 13, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    Hey, just trying to educate without pontificating (try it sometime). Side effects for adderall and straterra (another adhd drug) include appendicitis. Side effects also include stomach pains that mimic appendicitis. Now that would be a bitch.

    • mrmrbill said, on September 13, 2010 at 12:58 pm

      Although searching for the two does return a result (as most anything will), there doesn’t appear to a connection on any bona-fide medical sites, and only a cursory connection at best, on a couple sham sites.

    • Giant Head said, on September 13, 2010 at 1:53 pm

      then why did he not have the appendicitis earlier? Seems a stretch to connect the two….at least it is not a scientific connection.

  29. snarkk said, on September 13, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    What’s this about Ford never having any MLB at bats? I wouldn’t call many of Rohand’s recent ABs akin to “major league” quality…

  30. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    Another question is why the adderall and/or PEDs that fueled Andres’ great year suddenly quit working..

    • DJLoo said, on September 13, 2010 at 12:42 pm

      Maybe when you stop taking them you get appendicitis…

  31. 3bagger said, on September 13, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    So Mike, what would you do about the leadoff spot?

  32. alleykat said, on September 13, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    What happened to Torres is a fluke.What is happening to Sanchez is not.Wonder why he was removed in the 7th? His knee is flaring up again.Surprised?? Hell fucking no.

    And Gimp Guillen is becoming a serious liability in right.And now Baggs is alluding that he only signed because he was promised certain things by our brain trust.Everyone knew the guy had no wheels…No NL club in his right mind would have gone after the guy.Why the fuck do you promise him a certain amount of playing time?

    • 3bagger said, on September 13, 2010 at 12:39 pm

      Unless it’s in his contract, fuck promises.

      • Giant Head said, on September 13, 2010 at 1:55 pm

        Torres’ injury should void any private assurances management may have given Guillen….

  33. xootsuit said, on September 13, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Freddy Sanchez’s surgically repaired knee has been hobbling him for a while now and it was a twist to that knee (on a pretty simple play, where he had to stop moving toward the bag and lean the other way to grab a grounder) that got him pulled from the game yesterday. Baggarly says he nontheless looked pretty spry running to catch his plane after the game, but . . . . Fontenot and Ross are going to have step up big time to approximate replacing Torres and FSanchez. Not impossible, of course.

    • James said, on September 13, 2010 at 12:59 pm

      Ross has a much bigger job than Fontenot.

      • Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 1:05 pm

        No shit.

      • James said, on September 13, 2010 at 1:12 pm

        The injunction to step up “big time” spurred the promulgation of the prima facie

  34. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    If Fontenot has to replace Freddy,he is the #1..
    Looigi, if you’re serious, your brain got unzipped.. drop it with your slander.

  35. 3bagger said, on September 13, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    Bochy said he expects Franchez to play tomorrow. So then what do you do with the #1 spot.

    • Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 1:00 pm

      Flip a coin: Fruckie or Ross.

  36. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    2 of 6400 patients taking adderall got appendicitis…
    2754 of 6400 people who saw an attorney got fleeced of their life savings..

    • 3bagger said, on September 13, 2010 at 1:09 pm

      I wish we had the thumbs up button for this post.

  37. alleykat said, on September 13, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    All one needs to know is Aaron Rownads 13.6 MM total a year.That is enough to send all of us over the Denny ledge.No more AB’s for this guy down the stretch.How this guy walks into the locker room with any self respect is beyond me.Should give 70% of his salary to charity.

    One look at his batting stance is all you need to know.That stance is somewhere between Brokeback Bathroom Stall and a Jerry Lewis Telethon.

  38. Giant Head said, on September 13, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    how about two more years at that salary…now I am ready to jump…

  39. Kevin said, on September 13, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    Rent a wreck is looking much better at the plate. I have been wondering why he is out there anymore. He and Rowand should be bench mates. I think Bochy should look at those two when they enter the club house and say “Grab some Pine Meat”.

  40. delmardennis said, on September 13, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    The “Denny Ledge” is full. After yesterdays Niner game, it is literally SRO. Not to fret however. A few more losses like that, and the ledge will be free and clear. That is of course if Aaron Rowand batting lead off doesn’t make me jump sooner.

  41. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    I keep telling you dudes, the comma between pine and meat is essential unless you’re making pesto..

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on September 13, 2010 at 5:59 pm

      Yay, Twin comes through for the beloved and typically absent vocative comma.

  42. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    Xoot, seroiously: can we have a cease fire? I sincerely apologize for any offense to you.

  43. delmardennis said, on September 13, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    This date in Giants History, 1965: Mays hit #500 off of Houston’s Don Nottebart.
    In 1964, Loo wanted to trade both Marichal and Mays for Nottebart.

  44. TedSpe said, on September 13, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    You’re right.

    • TedSpe said, on September 13, 2010 at 2:25 pm

      I meant that for Michael’s “Pine Meat” post. I have no idea who Loo wanted to trade

  45. Macdog said, on September 13, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    Is anyone else having a hard time figuring out who to root for tonight between Pads-Rox? Obviously a Rockies win puts the Giants in first, but they’re scaring the shit out of me and they need to start losing, so I may be leaning toward the Pads. What a way to start what’s going to be a wild final three weeks.

  46. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    I take that last post back. The diaper stuff is totally John in Walnut Creek. (Xoot is joining Yogi and Hawk in using my health in his responses.) Lowlife.

    • xootsuit said, on September 13, 2010 at 3:01 pm

      Well, I deleted from the Splash the reply that offended you. I had no stake in it. Frankly, when posts get puerile it’s a bit tough to tell who’s worse than who. I mean whom. Most people have their llimits. Health jokes? Some might be ok, I suppose, but why take a chance? No good reason. So that one’s gone.

      • delmardennis said, on September 13, 2010 at 3:03 pm

        So is this one.

  47. TedSpe said, on September 13, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    The diaper stuff?

    • Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 3:14 pm

      On the Splash, appropriately. Where trolls and idiots can pick up on it.

  48. 3bagger said, on September 13, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    I’m with you Macdog. The Rox are a greater threat. I’m rooting for SD, especially since we get them to end the season at home and have to play the Rox on the road.

    • Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 3:20 pm

      Well, it somewhat depends on how we do, best is probably 2 of 3 for the Pads. Then, getting to Colorado with more than a 3 game lead would be nice…

  49. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    Ok, didn’t see Xoot’s last response. It’s over.

  50. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Honorary POTG for Panda for the flattening of the Sherpa, who’d been a mite too chirpy…

    • Bozo said, on September 13, 2010 at 6:10 pm

      I second that (flattening) motion.

  51. zumarust said, on September 13, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    I’m tempted to root for the Rockies, just because it’s fun watching San Diego’s balloon fizzle away its air. Plus, there’s a strong chance the Rockies will make the playoffs anyway, so why not eliminate San Diego. The Giants and Rockies both make the playoffs, and Atlanta and San Diego watch on TV.

    • delmardennis said, on September 13, 2010 at 4:08 pm

      Rooting for your wife’s Braves to miss the post-season? That can’t be good for domestic relations.

      • zumarust said, on September 13, 2010 at 4:35 pm

        Ssshhhhh. Let’s keep that on the down-low. (grin)
        Actually, we’re both realistic that it could come down to only one or the other’s team making the playoffs. If the Giants don’t make it, but the Braves do, I’ll be happy for her. She’s a very loyal Braves fan, and follows the team closely.

      • 3bagger said, on September 13, 2010 at 4:45 pm

        They’re doing a nice job beating up on the Nationals right now. The Giants are only 2 behind the Phillies for best record in the NL. It might be a stretch, but it sure would be great to take home field advantage throught the postseason.

  52. dirtnrocksnreno said, on September 13, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    I liked seeing Sandoval steamrool Torrealba yesterday too. A little more elbow would have made it better. Torrealba was a good sport about it but the way he approached afterwards Sandoval had me wondering for a split second there. If that was one of SF’s resident red asses like Burrell or Huff it might have been taken differently.

    Torrealba has what 5 dingers this year? 2 or 3 are against SF. Dude thrives on his hate for Sabean.

    • 3bagger said, on September 13, 2010 at 4:47 pm

      As do so many. I actually saw a post on extrabaggs yesterday with someone blaming Sabean and the medical staff for signing Torres with appendicitis. Really.

      • TedSpe said, on September 13, 2010 at 4:57 pm

        They *had* to have been kidding

  53. zumarust said, on September 13, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    The Nationals pitcher walks two Braves, then balks in a run. The Nationals stink.

    • mrmrbill said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:20 pm

      I thought Armando Benitez retired? 😉

  54. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    I’m watching Rocks/Pads now. MLB TV is worth almost any price. Well, my night life choices aren’t what they once were so it’s an EZ choice for me. Tejada with a 2-run monster off Francis in the first..

  55. PawlieKokonuts said, on September 13, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    In other news: Yanks-Rays scoreless; quite a duel; Reds seems to turn it on in binges; Phils, too. Rollins out w/ hamstring, which can be really a factor.

    I want the Rockies and the Padres to both lose, but that’s me: existential dilemmas that make Kierkegaard cringe.

  56. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    Blade, I sent you an E-Mail…

  57. zumarust said, on September 13, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    Gonzalez with a HUGE baserunning gaffe in the Rockies game. And then later the homeplate ump does a “Crawford” to two Rockies hitters in a row. Not going the Rockies way.

  58. zumarust said, on September 13, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    Eck-wipe out at the plate!

    • zumarust said, on September 13, 2010 at 6:34 pm

      Cunningham I should say. He looked like Eck-wipe.

  59. bigflavor said, on September 13, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    Hey XOOT– it seems you tried to post a couple of things today that went into my SPAM filter. Often, if you guys put a link into a post, it will automatically go to spam. There’s nothing I can do about it, just try to post it in a different way I guess……

  60. DJLoo said, on September 13, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    More often than not, the wild card creates interest and excitement, but when it does the opposite, it really blows. Yanks and Rays dead even in the loss column, began a 3 game “showdown” tonight that means virtually nothing to to the players and their fans. And imagine the 6 team scramble we’d have in the NL if there were no divisions or WC.

  61. wswinb4igo said, on September 13, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    I could never root for the rockies….ever since they couldn’t beat atl 1 friggin time for us…besides the ball park and the humidor thing is so full o shit..

  62. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    5-4 SD , Tulip hit a 3 run HR, bottom 6 now.

  63. bigflavor said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    I could give less than 2 shits about how the Rockies/Padres series shakes out. It’s a 3 game series, the only way one team gets even moderately fucked is if they lose all three. I’m not rooting for either team, I just care about us winning as many games as we can win before Colorado comes to town on the 24th……

    • wswinb4igo said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:10 pm

      we go there flav…they don’t come here

  64. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    Well, it’s a night off. Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me for watching.

  65. snark said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    I see in Baggs’ latest blog that Franchez is nursing his repaired knee, but at least penciled to start tomorrow. Also, Baggs muses the knee has bothered him all year, and may need another clean up in the offseason. I said at least 6 weeks ago that Franchez looked like he was always limping, and that his bad knee probably wasn’t healed, a partial reason for the off and on lackluster performance most of the year….

  66. bigflavor said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    WSWIN– got it. either way, that’s a series that’s going to be electric. Same place Mr Electric himself got his now defunct nickname, right? Freddy kinda fell off the map in TOronto this year…..
    Twin Im not begrudging you for watching the game, I’m watching it too. I just don’t give a shit who wins…..

  67. bigflavor said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    It’s funny, Sabean’s two big “splash” signings were shit this year, DeRosa and Sanchez— different degrees of shit obviously, since one of them played most of the year. BUt still, it’s hard to find anyone who thinks the Franchez signing was a good one (when he signed the deal or now). Sabean did all his damage on the cheap: Uribe, Huff, Torres, Burrell—

    • mrmrbill said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:31 pm

      “We’ll make it up in volume.”

  68. wswinb4igo said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    The rox win so often at home…have to root for the visitors…

  69. TedSpe said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    I’m watching it too. I just don’t give a shit who wins…..
    ——————————————-
    Yeeeeeeeah. Kinda in the same boat

  70. bigflavor said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    ted. Sweet. Two guys that don’t give a shit. POTD.

    • mrmrbill said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:37 pm

      I was leaning towards the Pads just slightly, to break up the Rox recent oncoming momentum. That said, I don’t really give a shit either. Not a full one — maybe half a corn niblet.

    • TedSpe said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:46 pm

      Excellent, dude

      • TedSpe said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:51 pm

        That post was meant for Flav.
        I’m really fucking up on these “reply” posts. Some troll’s going to say:
        “I hate all negros!!!
        Someone else (meaning Flav) will say:
        “Ooookay. You’re gone, asshole!!”
        And I’ll post:
        “Fucking A right!!”
        And of course..mine will be right under the first post

  71. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Well, it would be cool, however insignificant, to open the HS in first place…
    Fruckie has been limping all fucking year. Good call, Snarkkles, you caught it 6 weeks ago..

    • snarkk said, on September 13, 2010 at 9:01 pm

      Yeah, it was more like 2 months, and where was your diagnostic post earlier? Nowhere, just posts ripping for bad performance and lack of effort. I was the only one that said he might still be hurt, and got ripped by everybody. Now, Baggs comes out with the story that supports what I said all along…

  72. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    His lackluster performance? This is who he is now.

  73. bigflavor said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    agreed. There’s nothing lackluster about Franchez. If anything he’s a “fake hustle” guy, I hate guys like that. He’s just a dude on the downside of his career, his body is creaky (probably from years of fake hustle) and next year will look a lot like this year (if we are lucky)…….

  74. Michael said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    It should be added, however, that he’s still a signifcant upgrade on last year. Our second base production in 2009:
    .236 BA .281 OBP .611 OPS
    This year:
    .281 .337 .725
    And he is fine in the field.

  75. bigflavor said, on September 13, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    “fake hustle”– that’s a great description. It defines a lot of shit. And it hides a lot of shit. What are you hiding, “fake hustle” guy? haha. LQTM. I fucking hate fake hustle guys.


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