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What a Game

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 11, 2010

No disrespect to Eric Hinske, but his HR was about a 7 on the Clutch Scale…….Anyone can run into one—the ball was right there to be whacked. And it wasn’t like he had the pressure of being the *final out* or anything. Franchez and Huff? their singles were a 10 on the Clutch Scale. I still have no idea how freddy made contact with that pitch. His previous swings weren’t even close, he was doing a “skinny Panda” impersonation up there. But somehow, someway, he hits a ball that bounces it’s way along a path of destiny. And then The Long Thong does something equally clutch with his muscle job into right field. I listened to that entire game on the radio and it was easily more dramatic listening to Miller’s call.

And Brooks Conrad, Goddamn, how can you not feel for that guy. The Atlanta fans had to direct their frustration somewhere but booing that dude as mercilessly as they did showed me no class at all. He’s over there totally out of position filling in for Prado doing the best he could in a position he isn’t used to. For me, he’s probably my favorite non-Giant right now, maybe second to Mike Quade…….

So here we are, somehow, someway, leading this series 2-1. I guess Bum is going today and I think that’s the right call as opposed to Lincecum. I don’t know if he’ll get it done I just know that when the dust settles in this series SOMEONE will have gotten it done. This is a team of glory or destiny, take your pick…….

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  1. 8Giant Head said, on October 11, 2010 at 6:51 am

    I will have to say it, Flav you made the call of the Century with your post yesterday that this is a team that will come back.

    My life with this team in the playoffs just goes back to 1987. We have never comeback from any in-game tragedy as we did yesterday. We had magical moments but never can I remember us coming back after giving up crucial leads. Did not do it in Florida in 1993, did not do it in Games 6 and 7 in the World Series or the other times in ceucial games like the last game of the season in ’93 or when we choked away a 7 run lead in 1998 the last day in Colorado and then we we forced to play that one game playoff in Chicago.

    It has been all torture for decades but this may be a team of destiny.

    Teams of destiny are the ones that others don’t want to play. Anything can happen in the Phillies series.

    The Bum will win today and we will shellack Lowe 7-2 and hopefully I win that god-damned computer 🙂

  2. dirtnrocksnrneno said, on October 11, 2010 at 7:23 am

    Glory or Destiny?

    When it comes to this club, is there a difference?

  3. xootsuit said, on October 11, 2010 at 7:35 am

    I don’t know if it’s destiny or that sort of luck that only gutsy efforts deserve, and, in my experience, often grab. But it’s cool. This team has something fine.

    The Atl fans are obnoxious. The flaccid foam hatchets and childish chants are bad; the aggressive booing is arrogant and dumb. How did they respond to SF’s “Po-sey is bet-ter!”?? They booed Posey. Single syllable grunt. Very clever. And the contumely they heaped on Brooks Conrad (looked more like William Conrad out there, btw) showed no regard for the game. Their team has a hole in it because of injury. That’s a tough fact. That’s something as fans they should understand and respond to. That’s what they’re booing and they don’t even know it. Instead, they attack the poor guy doing his best to fill the hole, playing a position he can’t really play. Those fans deserve to lose.

  4. Kevin said, on October 11, 2010 at 8:21 am

    From the previous post, BF you asked where was everyone in 1989, well I was right here in Sac Town, Between the time I left my office and climbed into my car their was an earth quake and I didn’t even know it. so when I turned on KNBR for the ride home I was cussing out my radio cause all I got was static!! Then I got home and turned on the TV and there was the shot of the field with players and their families down on the field holding each other. I watched the series but it was not as an emotional loss as 2002. I think it was because of all the death from the Quake. Cars being crushed by the upper deck of the Bay Bridge and all. 20 years and they still don’t have a new bridge!! how pathetic is that.

    • Bozo said, on October 11, 2010 at 9:02 am

      I was at the Stick in the upper boxes at the time (although my actual seat was the last seat in the stadium). During the playoffs a buddy of mine (he had worked the season as an additional photographer) had gotten 2 together but I had to sneak into the section, the seats in front of his were not being used. That section had the overflow of the box that Montana ended up in, Ed Montague was there with his kids (it was the first NL playoff game he hadn’t worked in years, very nice guy). When game 3 finally resumed Ruthe Stein from the Chronicle finally showed up to kick me out of the seat.

      When the earthquake hit people were stunned for a bit, then a huge cheer went up. reality didn’t hit until the Blimp started sending back images of the Bay Bridge. The power was completely knocked out. We left when they started picking up the bases. We took all sorts of backstreets through Hunter’s Point to get home, Third was just so backed up. Without a city of lights, that night was the only time I ever seen that many stars in SF.

  5. Bozo said, on October 11, 2010 at 8:42 am

    I’m trying to decide what to get Conrad for Christmas, I’m thinking maybe a nice fruit basket or something. The error in right field shouldn’t have been an error in my opinion. Over the shoulder looking back in the sun, having to go for it because your right fielder is still counting his body parts. Tough error that one (I know he got a glove on it, but still) The booing was overboard but in some ways I do understand their frustration. I booed Candy Maldonado for years (I know I’m an ass but fuck Candy).

    It was a very gutty performance from the Giants. I can’t help but root for these guys, not just as a Giants team, but each guy individually. I know every team wants to win but these guys almost seem to will it. I don’t know if it’s true, but it seems each guy is rooting for the other guy. You’re taking my spot in the line-up today, so get er done. That kinda thing is cool. Win or lose these guys are going to do it as a team.

    • ewisco said, on October 11, 2010 at 11:14 am

      Candy sucks. never forgiven for the debacle in st. lou. then he picks up 2 mil from toronto and i pretty much stopped paying into baseball.

  6. max808 said, on October 11, 2010 at 8:58 am

    I really thought his name was Butch.

    I admit to giving up after Romo coughed up the hr. I turned off the tv, slammed a few doors and went outside to vent. I couldn’t stomach watching them lose again. But I still had the laptop open and so snuck a peek in the top of the 9th. Ishikawa up. Yeah right. fat chance. Checked back a few minutes later expecting it to be over. Now 2 on 2 out. Shit. Hop back upstairs and put the TV back on and thought ok, torture me some more. Had to leave after the final out and it was just as well. The neighbors were out front with their kids. In my car, I could roll the windows down and let it rip.
    Damn sweet win. Made up for the stomach grinder on Fri.

  7. xootsuit said, on October 11, 2010 at 9:27 am

    Booing your own team’s players is something some fans like to do, under certain fairly common circumstances, and some don’t, just about ever, but I don’t think either camp should be sure they’re “right.” I still doubt whether the boos helped drive Benito and AJ out of town, but I sure didn’t object when thousands decided to voice their views so clearly. Same thing these days with Zito. But Brooks Conrad’s failure is a whole different deal. I think.

    • xootsuit said, on October 11, 2010 at 9:36 am

      sorry. Benitez.

    • Bozo said, on October 11, 2010 at 10:07 am

      Xoot, I didn’t say I was right in booing Candy, I was just saying I did boo the guy and am probably an ass for it. In later years, I would just clap and say prove me wrong at a player I was pissed at.

      I agree Conrad’s failure is a different deal and the Braves probably won’t be able to use the guy now except for pinch hitting duties, I’m pretty sure the guy has a major case of the yips now.
      Remember when we had Russ Davis? After that kid announced him as Roooose Davis, the crowd would just yell Roooose instead of booing him. I think the guy retired after that.

      • Kevin said, on October 11, 2010 at 10:16 am

        So does anyone think that if Sunday’s game was at AT&T would Romo have been Booed??

      • xootsuit said, on October 11, 2010 at 10:25 am

        Boz, I didn’t intend to criticize you. Just the opposite. You obviously see both sides of the deal. Boo when you feel like booing. Sounds like you’ve got your good reasons. I just meant to suggest that those of us who aren’t joining in very likely aren’t disagreeing with you.

        Now, Romo. There’s a good example. That guy’s made great contributions all year long and he’s one reason the Giants in the PS. Boo him now? I would be surprised if very many fans went that way.

  8. stixwiz said, on October 11, 2010 at 9:54 am

    Glory? Destiny? Eastcoast writers don’t think so. Yahoo’s Steve Henson lauds the Phillies like the second coming of J.C., canned milk or sliced bread and virtually promises that they will SHAME and HUMILIATE other NL teams they face in the Postseason. Rest of the gang is all boo-hooing for the poor, injured Braves (like they didn’t dominate the league in the 90’s with their sick chanting and their foam tommyhawks) because of their many injured players and because of their fill-in infielder making crucial errors.

    Giants have paid their dues over the years, winning and winning and winning and then going down to sour and agonizing defeat at the penultimate moment. How bout losing Dave Dravecky and Mike Matheny, critical elements to possible big winners? How bout Selig and the boys essentially driving Bonds outta baseball because they needed a properly hued scapegoat for their own steroidal sins.

    Giants have been whipping boys damned well enough. Bout time for Lady Luck to break out in a full-faced grin and for the Baseball Gods to shine like the Summer Solstice sun. This team has endured sufficient torture and so have we, the Giants fans.

    Hitch up the horses. Rev up the engines. Fly the black and orange banners of October. Time for the Halloween Machine to rock and roll.

    • Bozo said, on October 11, 2010 at 10:11 am

      Another classic stix. Bravo.

  9. Kevin said, on October 11, 2010 at 10:21 am

    Nice one Stix, that TBS announcer who is suppose to call the game unbiazed, is definitley rooting for the Braves, what a chump!!

  10. wswinb4igo said, on October 11, 2010 at 10:26 am

    Michael’s act of challenging posters to post their opinions on moves being made at the time they are is bull shit. There is NO WAY of being proved right. For instance, I say he shouldn’t have removed Dirty when he did. If Romo retires Hinske, Michael assumes that’s the right move. He assumed it was the right move when Lopez retired Heyward in the 7th with no threat to the lead in the 2nd game.

    Let’s see, Dirty is dominating, set to face Glaus who hasn’t done a thing since June, or Romo against their best PH….um, um,

    • zumarust said, on October 11, 2010 at 10:59 am

      I think everyone’s made their philosophy on this clear. Can we move on?

  11. zumarust said, on October 11, 2010 at 10:43 am

    I want to clarify something I said about the Texas Rangers fans. I’m not saying they have to be fascist Nebraska Cornhusker fans, all wearing the same color, like Midwestern robot sheep. But there should be some sense of community in what they’re wearing. That was a ridiculous Jackson Pollock mess of a crowd. In fact, it didn’t look like a home crowd. It just looked like people had been dressed by a random explosion of red and blue clothing. It made the game sort of unpleasant to look at.

  12. Kevin said, on October 11, 2010 at 10:43 am

    What postion exactly does Conrad play? Is he a utility OF, or IF, or neither? I have not seen/heard what his natural postion on the field is.

  13. Unca Chuck said, on October 11, 2010 at 10:53 am

    3rd base . . .

  14. max808 said, on October 11, 2010 at 10:54 am

    I was wondering the same Kevin. Kuiper gave me the impression he was not a 2nd baseman at all, but that is where he’s played the most throughout his career in the minors and in the show.

  15. Unca Chuck said, on October 11, 2010 at 10:56 am

    WSW, that move happens about 95% of the time. Why? Becasue that’s Romo’s role. In a close game, pitcher (not named Timmy) over 100 pitches, 8th inning, you bring in your 8th inning guy.

    • wswinb4igo said, on October 11, 2010 at 11:07 am

      Chuck…95% of the time, Bochy’s moves are correct, and I defend them…The other 5% or so, I will call him out….this was a 5%er…

      Zum…it’s the 1st I’ve mentioned of michael’s calling out tactics…you can always move on.

      • Unca Chuck said, on October 11, 2010 at 11:29 am

        WSW, Bochy has 2 options.

        1. Keep Sanchez in.

        2. Bring in Romo.

      • snarkk said, on October 11, 2010 at 11:29 am

        Call it at you see it WSW. This is an open blog, until BF says otherwise. As for being called “liars” and such for making opinions known, it is meaningless blather. We don’t need to have a notary witness our posts or record our opinions…

      • Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 12:03 pm

        No one is preventing him from posting a dumb ass opinion. Were you blocked from posting the dumbest one of the year: Burrell was not an upgrade on Bowker? No, you were allowed to make an ass of yourself. He is allowed that same right.

      • snarkk said, on October 11, 2010 at 12:15 pm

        Nice try. Take a nap, get ready for tonite. But before you do, blog your prediction of when you’ll fall asleep, we’ll need you to memorialize that…

  16. max808 said, on October 11, 2010 at 10:58 am

    Actually i’m wrong about that. Majors he’s played 20 more games at 3rd..

    915 games at 2nd in the minors
    76 games at 3rd

    42 games at 3rd in the majors
    22 at 2nd

  17. Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 11:09 am

    Listen up,WSW: if you thought going to Romo was wrong, you thougt so when it hppened. FACT is, you’re a fucking liar: you didn’t think it was wrong until it didn’t work. THAT is the point.
    What I have very patiently ppointed to you and the other B’ers is that the move working or not working is not what determines whether the strategy was sound. “If Romo retires Hinske, Michael assumes that’s the right move”. Wrongo Bongo, it was the right move even though Romo DIDN’T get him, you ignorant shit. Just as Lopez wasn’t the right decision BECAUSE he got him. God, you’re stupid.

  18. Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 11:16 am

    I’ll try to make it even simpler: Bochy inserted Romo into a situation in which Romo had routinely succeeded ( I provided the numbers last night). THAT is the benchmark for judging the decision, Room Fuckwad.

    • wswinb4igo said, on October 11, 2010 at 12:03 pm

      My point is there is never a way of knowing….I’d rather watch it unfold than to jinx it, or rush to the keypad to make an opinion known….The point yesterday was to pitch to Glaus…Dirty the first choice, Lopez the 2nd to keep Glaus at the plate. Not give a chance to Cox to PH his best PH…you foolish fuck

      • Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 12:26 pm

        And wouldn’t ya know-not having Glaus fucked Bobby in the end… you don’t “get” shit.

      • wswinb4igo said, on October 11, 2010 at 12:28 pm

        he didn’t want him in the game asswipe or he wouldve started…

      • Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 12:32 pm

        Ah, you didn’t want to jinx it! I recall Huff thanking you on the postgame..
        Well, we know who wears the “I’m with Stupid” T-shirt in your family.

      • Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 12:37 pm

        You want a ventilator or the iron lung? He would have used him in the 9th for defense as he did Friday . The Lord giveth and…

      • wswinb4igo said, on October 11, 2010 at 12:38 pm

        Michael…you havn’t addressed the point yet….KEEP GLAUS at the plate. No didpute huh bigmouth mr know it all

      • Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 1:03 pm

        “No didpute huh bigmouth ”
        Jesus, you don’t even have an excuse…
        The point was addressed repeatedly, turd for brains: to show Bochy made the wrong decision WHEN HE MADE IT, YOU have to show there wasn’t justification for the decision, not that it didn’t subsequently work. Of COURSE we don’t know what would have happened if Sanchez or Lopez had pitched to Glaus, you seem to think that’s the justification. Bochy used a guy who had been successful in the role he selected him for. That ends the sane discussion on this topic.

      • wswinb4igo said, on October 11, 2010 at 1:24 pm

        you are really some kind of a jerk….a one way street….if you ask Bochy, if you cant get your LH v LH match up, or RH v RH match up, who do you want to pitch to? Glaus or Hinske? Who would he choose you dumb ass fuck

  19. zumarust said, on October 11, 2010 at 11:20 am

    I might try the Splash for a while….

  20. Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 11:24 am

    I’ll be educating over there today, as well. Multibitchslapping.

    • wswinb4igo said, on October 11, 2010 at 12:11 pm

      stay here and Learn from me, before you think you can educate anybody else…

  21. Unca Chuck said, on October 11, 2010 at 11:25 am

    Have to relate what happened yesterday. I was taking my daughter to Walnut Creek to meet my other daughter for dinner, and send daughter 2 back to SF state. I turn off the TV when Hinskie is up to bat. Load the wife and son into the car, start driving, and almost hit a tree when Miller says the Giants are down 2-1 when the inning ends. I completely missed the HR.

    Son is bummed, wife is bummed, daughter is pissed. I’m furious as there are only 3 outs left. One quick out. Ishi gets the walk, and Torres strikes out. I’m thinking, shit, here comes Timmy tomorrow. Sanchez falls behind quickly 0-2. Next pitch, I say ‘ballgame.” Thankfully, Fruckie doesn’t swing. Fruck singles, and Krukow immediately says, “That was the best at-bat of his life.” I couldn’t help but laugh, and hope just a little bit more.

    Giants baseball IS tourture. I loved listening to the locals on the radio, rather than having to put up with Stockton (errah! SanCHEZ! SanDOvail!) and Brenly.

    Still, when Huff hit the line drive to RF, the lag between the sound of the bat hitting the ball, and Miller saying the ball hit the ground was excruciating. The call on Posey’s hit was late as well in calling Sanchez safe at the plate. But it was pandemonium in the car as we were hurtling down I-80. My other daughter was texting my wife as all this was hapening, and then Krukow and Kuip mentioned their kids texting them as all this was happening. It was surreal, unbelievable, and crazy, all at the same time.

    Driving home for the Niner game, the radio was very spotty, and i kept losing the signal. I head the 1st 2 drives, then didn’t hear much til the FG, fumble, and Nedney’s miss to end the half. Missed the stupidest play of Smith’s career, missed the boos on the next drive, but heard the 2 TDs in the 4th, and the last drive. I was thinking 2 miracles in one day? No such luck. The Niners are truly snakebit. Every phase of the team played A) well, and B) Horrible.

    Their problem? They are -10 in turnovers. 9 ints, 6 fumbles. 15 turnovers. Far and away the worst in the NFL. Gore, 2 fumbles. Smith 2 ints, and the dumbest play of his life.

  22. Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 11:33 am

    They threw Fruckie a slider after those deadful hacks at the fastball. Even Brenly called that immediately.

  23. Kevin said, on October 11, 2010 at 11:40 am

    Well, how much better would Conrad have been at 3rd handling hot grounders there?? I don’t know, he may not have deserved the boo’s but he certainly should be a better fielder that what we have seen. IMO

  24. Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    If they finish it off today, as the series has gone thus far the front runners are those with 12runs and Max with 9. Max wins if they win and score 1 or 2. The “12 runners” are Kevin, 3Bagger, and Blade.

  25. Kevin said, on October 11, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    This is from a Poster on the Taliking Chop blogg a Braves blogg, this guy could have been writing about the Giants IMO

    this team has a fighting chance
    alot of what the Braves have done this year has been done on guts and heart. Intangibles becuase our tangibles have been weak at best all year. This team is not a mega scoring team. Our strongest asset has been our pitching with the starting and back end being the strongest. We were built to win with pitching and we have. We were never meant to be a 10 run team. We have been doing what we’re built to do. Win close games and play everyone tough. Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose. We made it to the wild card and we haven’t been swept. We still have a chance to win and I don’t care who Bobby puts on the field, I believe in this team and I believe they can play the game they were built to play. They can beat the Giants tonight at home and they can beat Lincecum in SF. Not because they are more talented, but because they are a team built on great pitching, guts and heart. Injuries aside, we’re not the deepest team. Got it… Our guys can do this and they will. Just watch.

    by Klemson Krash on Oct 11, 2010 9:41 AM EDT

  26. Kevin said, on October 11, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    Of course talking about beating Lincecum in SF is BS, but what the hell the guy believes in his team.

  27. Kevin said, on October 11, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    Everyone needs to check this out if you have not seen it, this is cool


  28. Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    “he didn’t want him in the game asswipe or he wouldve started…”
    Yes, Conrad instead of Glaus worked out quite well for Bobby…

    • wswinb4igo said, on October 11, 2010 at 1:21 pm

      not having him at the plate did…

      • Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 1:59 pm

        I love it when the dumb fucks prove MY point. As this post shows, it was only the result, not the decision that WSW has a problem with. The decision wasn’t argued at the time for one reason: no one had a problem with it.
        But let’s look at WSW’s other option:
        Javier Lopez against RHers:
        111 AB .306 BA against
        Romo against LHers:
        79 AB .241 BA against ( 1 HR)
        At best I give it a push. Considering going with Romo got Glaus out of the game: decided edge Romo. Ok, the drooler in Row 3, next question.

  29. Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    Same LU for us, Glaus at third, Infante 2nd for the Braves.

  30. SanDog said, on October 11, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    “Skinny Panda” —that’s gold, Flav. Not be confused with those Skinny Cow healthy ice cream sando’s I used to find in the freezer from time to time.
    I feel horrible for Conrad, too. He went to Monte Vista High—right around the corner from my house. (Not San Ramon/Danville Monte Vista—-Spring Valley Monte Vista—as in “Grand Theft Auto–Spring Valley edition”

    I gotta great feeling about Bum tonight.

  31. TedSpe said, on October 11, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    It’s really quite simple. In baseball, the right strategic decisions can backfire on you. It still doesn’t make it wrong. Like Romo himself said, “That’s the reason I love and hate this sport”

  32. snarkk said, on October 11, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    Here’s a clip of Fontenot scoring from 3rd yesterday on the Conrad error. As I said yesterday, the iso at the video end shows Fontenot 1/3 of the way down the line on his toes dancing as he watches Conrad/Heyward approach the ball. He was nowhere near the bag when Conrad dropped it. The pop was too short for him to score on a sac fly, so he played it correctly, and scored easily because he was already way down the line ready to run on a drop, and sure enough — Conrad flubbed it. http://tinyurl.com/284fo9b

  33. Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    1/3 is absolute bullshit-I was wrong, he WAS off the bag but even with the coache’s box. He easly retreats to tag if it’s caught.

    • Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 2:32 pm

      It was not too short with the infielder’s back to the infield and with the pitcher due next, Flannery would have sent him.. He would have scored easily.

      • snarkk said, on October 11, 2010 at 2:39 pm

        Michael said, on October 10, 2010 at 2:43 pm
        There’s a clear view on “Postseason TV”. Of course, you need ten bucks to get it.

        Michael said, on October 10, 2010 at 2:49 pm
        If he was 25 feet down the line when the ball dropped, he would walked home. Now drop it, Snarkklefuck. You’re into the Ralph’s Scotch way early.

        First I was a fuckwad for saying he was down the line when Conrad dropped it. Now that the video shows I was right, as I said many times, I’m wrong anyway on how far down the line he was. He “easily retreats to tag” is laughable on such a short pop from where he is down the line standing beyond Flannery and the box towards home. And where is that “clear view”?

        And you have the audacity to rip everybody else. You have NO credibility, zero, zilch…

  34. dirtnrocksnreno said, on October 11, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    Fuck the east coast media. SF can beat Philly. If these supposed scribes paid attention to anthing west of the Mississipi they might have noticed that SF beat Halliday along with a number of staff aces this year.

    The scouts take on Wilson killed me though “more guts than stuff”. What the fuck have these douchebags been watching? Last I checked 95 MPH cheese is pretty good stuff. The one with the guts is the guy digging in the box.

    Time to wrap up this series tonight and send ATL packing.
    Go Giants!

  35. Kevin said, on October 11, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    Got to agree with Mike, he was not that far off the base that he did not have time to go back and tag up,

  36. Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    The question on whether he would have been sent depended on who caught the ball, of course. Snarkklefuck says he played it right being 30 feet down the line. #1-he wasn’t, #2: if he had been Snarrklefuck is wrong that he played it correctly. Snarkk exaggerated how far down the line he was, I erred in that he was not on the bag. But as Kevin saw, he was ( as I corrected) EVEN with the coaches box and directly NEXT to Flannery.

    • snarkk said, on October 11, 2010 at 3:05 pm

      Oops, I “erred”, but I was still right, anyway, sort of, just because I said so, even tho I said there was other video showing I was right when there was no such thing, move along, pay no attention to the man behind the screen. You just make shit up as you go along, and call it fact, and those that disagree are liars, idiots, rubes, fuckwads. Evidence bites, doesn’t it?…

      • Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 3:12 pm

        My original post was that he would have scored had the ball been caught.You have now provided the video that shows I was right. I confess to not watching the video until last night. But I knew you were lying as to where Fontenot was so I called your bluff. The video shows clearly that you DID lie. So, as always: I was right, and Snarkk is scum. We’ll now resume today’s action.

      • snarkk said, on October 11, 2010 at 3:32 pm

        I said the Runt was down the line when Conrad fluffed it. You disparaged me to no end and that he was standing “on the bag”, and there was other video that showed that. You said that when you really hadn’t even seen any video, not to mention there is NO video that shows he’s standing on the bag. Now you’re saying the issue was how far down the line was he. We can argue how far down he was, but not that he WAS well down the line. Nice try at misdirection, it won’t work. You’re caught redhanded in your own fakery and bluster…

      • Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 3:40 pm

        You repeatedly said 1/3 of the way, 30 feet, 25 feet.Yours was the original sin.You clearly lied, as eye witnesses have confirmed. I did confess to exaggerating to call your bluff. And it worked. Like a smart cop, I fudged to get a slime ball to break. And now you’ve provided the evidence needed. I wish they were all this easy. Book ’em, Ferret. Prevarication 1..

      • snarkk said, on October 11, 2010 at 3:45 pm

        Yeah, I was the one that lied. That’s rich. You would have been a good Nixon speechwriter…

  37. Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    What the Snarkfucker and the rest of room B are going to do is follow my lead and now move on from yesterday-there’s lline up bashing to be done, now get on it STAT.

    • snarkk said, on October 11, 2010 at 3:35 pm

      Yeah, I made stuff up. So move on now, people….

  38. Unca Chuck said, on October 11, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    If Heyward catches the ball, he’s in a much better position to throw, but I guess he was still trying to figure out if he still had all his teeth in his head. He was wobbly from smacking the wall on Font’s drive moments earlier.

    It looked like Font was 5 feet off the bag. Certainly not 35′.

    It didn’t matter either way, and the play at home wasn’t close, but I really wonder what would have happened had he caught it. I still don’t think Conrad gets him out on the tag play given the direction he was running . . .

    Shouldn’t Font have been standing on 3rd in case of tha catch? Assuming a drop is a risk, but I guess he wasn’t far enough off the bag to affect the tag-up.

    Anyhow, Go Bummie! Gio Giants! The video is awesome…

  39. max808 said, on October 11, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Good shot of Lincecum practically doing cartwheels when Ishi scored.

  40. Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    Video also shows Ishi crossing home plate standing as the catcher was dropping the throw about five feet up the first base line. Clearly, no throw makes it close, as Snarkklefuck alleged. The man is patholgical.

    • snarkk said, on October 11, 2010 at 5:03 pm

      Matter of opinion whether good throw makes it close. Not “clear” at all. “Clear” as in Font was standing on the 3rd base bag? Yeah, right…

  41. Kevin said, on October 11, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Oh and one more thing, Fontenot clearly took a step back to third and then broke for the plate when he saw the drop.

    • Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 3:33 pm

      Absolutely, he was already retreating. In his zeal to show ME wrong, Snarkklefuck provided the evidence of his own mistakes. This guy could get a jaywalker the death sentence.

    • snarkk said, on October 11, 2010 at 3:34 pm

      Duh. Conrad gets his glove on the ball, so Font had to start back to third if the catch is made. But, he dropped it, so Font broke for home. You working for Oracle?…

  42. snarkk said, on October 11, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    Back to baseball. Glauss is supposedly on third tonite. I’d like to see at least a few bunt attempts for a hit, like Rent did so well in SF. Glauss moves like a stick figure…

  43. Unca Chuck said, on October 11, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    It’s 5 feet Snarkk. Not 35 feet. Font scroes eiither way.

    The ONLY way that play is close is if Heyward catches the ball. he was at least moving in the right direction. If he was still woozy from the previous play is likely, but for whatever reason, Conrad took the play.

    No way he throws out Font moving backwards . . .

    Move along.

    • snarkk said, on October 11, 2010 at 3:59 pm

      Chuck, I didn’t start this bullshit. But, I will not tolerate someone telling me I am fucking FOS saying that someone is not on the bag, when I’m looking straight at the video showing he’s NOT ON THE BAG. Then, I’m accused of lying about how far OFF the bag he was in an obvious attempt at misdirection. I will not tolerate this bullshit any more, and I will call this tool on his bullshit on every occasion that I can prove it…

      • Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:09 pm

        You lied first,nyah nyah. And you DID start it. Nothing was directed at you, my first post said he would have scored easily. YOU attacked, you lying scuzzball fuck. YOU are the asswipe attempting misdirection. You are the one who will be called out at every turn.

  44. Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    I lied To Catch a Thief. It worked. Yes, now we may move on…
    As I pointed out while Snarkklefuck was still slandering Renteria, Edgar is an excellent bunter. It’s not as easy as the ignorant would make it. Faking the bunt works far more often as a tool to get the third baseman to play farther in. But sure, worth a try from Andres or Fruckie perhaps. Just don’t go postal if they don’t.

    • snarkk said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:08 pm

      You lied, and were caught. Now, you’re making up stuff to cover it up. Very Nixonian. And, I never slandered Rent. You slandered Franchez by calling him a Pussy, and I had his back. Yesterday, he’s a hero…

      • Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:20 pm

        Bochy had to threaten him before he’d play this spring and BRIBE him before he’d play the final weekend of the regular season. “Pussy” is kind. And thanks for that slider or it’s Timmy going down 1-2…

  45. Kevin said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    It also appears that Heyward was going to get there in time. but for whatever reason does not call off Conrad. And we are all argueing over this video for what reason?? The Giants won that is all that should matter. Snarkk, I didn’t know you and Mike were having a serious arguements over this. I was just pointing out what the video shows. I was not trying to make you look bad.

  46. delmardennis said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    Did you Know? Over the past three post-seasons, covering 12 different match ups, the team that won Game 1 of the LDS went on to win the series each time. And not once were any of those teams even forced to a Game 5. Sounds like tonight’s game is in the bag and I don’t even have to watch. Good. Because I can’t take any more of this shit.

    Our lineup stinks on ice. The ice on a fishing boat heading slow to China.

    • delmardennis said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:14 pm

      Hey, what about Texas this year? They’re being forced to Game 5. Goddamn Giants media notes made a faux pas. Bastards better not have jinxed us. You know me and jinxes. I hope we come out in our orange jerseys tonight. [that should reverse it]

  47. DJLoo said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    Pkeasant Tap died, Dennis…

    • DJLoo said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:10 pm

      Pleasant Tap.

      • delmardennis said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:24 pm

        I saw that, Loo. Shoot, two weeks ago we lost Real Quiet in that freak paddock accident.
        ‘Tap was a half bro to Go for Gin, one of my few Derby winners.

  48. xootsuit said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Hey, he was only “fudging,” like a “good” cop. He claimed, repeatedly, that Fontenot was standing on the bag because he wanted to taunt someone into saying, uh, no tf, he wasn’t standing on the bag. Snap! The trap shot shut.

    Oh, yeah, well, how far off the bag was he, bright boy? Huh? I’ve got you now. Was it five feet? Thirty feet?

    Uh, the issue was whether he was standing on the bag to tag up ,or if he was down the line — at all.

    No, sonny, that’s not the issue. We’ll tell you what the issue is, right Gogogiants?

    Right, lieutenant.

    Now, once again, how far off the bag was he — exactly?

    He wasn’t standing on the bag, asswipe.

    Oh, asswipe, is it? Let him see what a quality piece of hose that is you’re swinging there, Gogo. Just once, for emphasis.

    Michael! Michael! Wake up! It’s time for you medication and the Giants will be on soon.

    Oh, ok. Wow. I’ll tell you. I was having the most wonderful dream. . . .

    • Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:22 pm

      No,issue was Snarkk’s lie. See above.

    • Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:28 pm

      I do apologize for giving Yogi your address. As you may have noticed on the Splash ( as YogiBarrister), he’s now totally insane. I’m sure he’s harmless, though. Ok, I hope he is.. er, there’s a decent chnace. Alright, alright, I already told you: he’s paid his debt. Recidivism is rare. Well, unlikely.. er, 50-50…

    • snarkk said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:33 pm

      Nice call, Xooty…

  49. Michael said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    Directed to the board:
    “Michael said, on October 10, 2010 at 2:21 pm
    Fontenot would have scored even if he caught it..
    Huff is killng them.”
    Snarkklefuck replied:
    “snarkk said, on October 10, 2010 at 2:24 pm
    Bullshit. Fontenot was 1/3 way down the line when the ball was caught/dropped. He wasn’t even in the same zip code as the bag to tag up. Look at the replays before you say something idiotic…”
    Lied AND started the attack.

    • snarkk said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:41 pm

      Michael said, on October 10, 2010 at 2:31 pm
      Fontenot was standing on the bag.

      snarkk said, on October 10, 2010 at 2:33 pm
      Look at the replay. You’re totally FOS. Maybe you’re watching a replay of the Rays/Rangers…

      Michael said, on October 10, 2010 at 2:34 pm
      I did, he initially broke but was standing on the bag ready to tag.

      Michael said, on October 10, 2010 at 2:37 pm
      And don’t start with me. If I’m talking to you, I’ll say “Snarkklefuck”..

      2:34. A blatant falsehood.
      2:37. Nixonian attempt at misdirection to not follow up on the previous fakery….

  50. Flavor said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    new thread for THE GAME

  51. dirtnrocksnreno said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    Is this argument the agony of victory? Who fucking cares? He scored. Giants win!

  52. alleykat said, on October 11, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    God Stockton is such an idiot.The Giants haven’t got much production from Torres and Sanchez? Well all Sanchez did in the 9th was get a key hit to keep the rally going,then scored the winning run.Fuck you Stockton!

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