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Santangelo to the Nats……

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on January 8, 2011

FP has scored a broadcasting job with the Nationals. For some reason, everyone here hated FP. I wasn’t in that group, I enjoyed his energy and some of his takes on the game. He was far from perfect but I’d rather listen to him 1000 times before Bip Roberts.

Anyway, slow baseball news day so that’s all ya get…..

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  1. Giant Head said, on January 8, 2011 at 6:57 am

    Great, I am now stuck with him:). Better than Dibble I guess.

  2. TedSpe said, on January 8, 2011 at 8:15 am

    F(ucking) P(rick).

    • Nipper said, on January 8, 2011 at 9:47 am

      Just like you Ted.

  3. xootsuit said, on January 8, 2011 at 8:38 am

    Bip is one of those barely articulate guys who just keeps talking until something interesting flies out. I can understand why people get tired of his blather and miss the fine moments. But he was a very good player and he knows the game in ways Fucking Pathetic Santangelo never will, never could. I think FP is a classic low-level roider. I bet he wouldn’t have made it out of AAA without roids. Nonetheless, he talks about his time in the big leagues as if he were an ex-All Star.

  4. Flavor said, on January 8, 2011 at 9:11 am

    Didn’t Dibble call out Strasburg for “wussing” out and opting for TJ surgery instead of playing through it? What an idiot….

  5. twinfan said, on January 8, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Don’t care one way or the other about the studio heads.

    • Nipper said, on January 8, 2011 at 9:49 am

      Yeah who cares?

  6. zumarust said, on January 8, 2011 at 10:08 am

    I RARELY ever watch or listen to the Dan Patrick show. It’s on ESPN radio and is televised on DirectTV. But I did catch a few minutes the other day. Patrick was talking to another ESPN guy and they were both raving about how good a broadcaster Joe Buck is. It just illustrated the huge gap between the thinking “inside the loop” and “outside the loop.” Kind of like how in politics they’ll talk about how politicians can get stuck with “inside the Beltway” thinking, and lose touch with “real people.”
    The reason we get so much Joe Buck is because the broadcasting world thinks he is just super. They are oblivious to what an annoying twit he is.

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on January 9, 2011 at 4:42 pm

      I believe Patrick is w/ Fox and split w/ ESPN. Fox is typically even worse.

  7. zumarust said, on January 8, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Not sorry to see FP go. And he can take Eric Byrnes with him.

  8. unca chuck said, on January 8, 2011 at 10:32 am

    Shit. JT? Bip? FP? Aurillia? They all blow chunks. Aurillia congratulating himself last year for helping the kids on the team in 09 to help them with the west in 2010 was especially nauseating.

    Fuck ’em all. Mychael Urban? Really? Do you go by Myke? Or is it Myq?

    What a fucking hose.

  9. Kevin said, on January 8, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Look those guys get paid to talk baseball, I don’t really hate any of them. I love baseball talk and when I can’t be on a computer reading what you guys have to say I will listen to KNBR no matter who is doing the talking. They usually have callers so they will be entertaining at times. Just like the Splash. Except you get to hear why they should not be on the radio!!

  10. zumarust said, on January 8, 2011 at 11:06 am

    My problem with FP and Byrnes is they try to out-Tolbert Tolbert. Tolbert is a unique radio talent. He does his schtick without drawing all that much attention to himself somehow. With all his schtick, he still has a kind of “every man” aspect to him that works. Not so with FP and Byrnes. Their schtick makes you constantly aware of THEM. ‘Look at how clever I am.’ And that’s not even getting to some of the whacked-out takes on things that FP has.
    Another things about Tolbert- somehow, even though he was a pro athlete, he doesn’t make that his soapbox of superiority to the listener. In fact, it rarely comes up, unless somebody else brings it up. I think that’s what ultimately turned a lot of people off on Joe Morgan. It’s a fine line for a broadcaster. “Likability” is a subtle thing, and a very subjective thing. Everyone’s lists are going to be different.
    My KNBR lists…..
    Like: Miller, Fleming, Kruk, Kuip, Tolbert, Lurie, Ray Woodsen
    Don’t like: The morning show, Fitz and Brooks, Radnich, Damon Bruce, FP, Byrnes, Snow
    No opinion on: Mychal Urban

    • xootsuit said, on January 8, 2011 at 11:15 am

      I thought the morning show guys on KNBR did a pretty good job riding the playoff wave this year. I was surprised. They played well live, with crowds of fans who were coming from all over the place to be in SF for the games, and their enthusiasm genuinely increased as the great run kept on going. I found their stuff pretty entertaining as I drove to and from the gym in the early a.m.s. (Disclosure: one of those morning guys coaches a 13-14 yr old team in my local LLeague. He well may draft my kid after tryouts next month. I’ve heard he’s a really great guy. ;))

      • zumarust said, on January 8, 2011 at 11:43 am

        They have their moments, I agree. I give them all the kudos in the world for having to deal with those Singletary interviews. They were gracious and respectful, and he was a complete jerk to them on a weekly basis.

      • snarkk said, on January 8, 2011 at 12:59 pm

        I’m OK with those KNBR morning dudes. They have to sport some hijinks, that’s morning radio, it’s a broader audience on the drive. But, they, especially Murphy, interview more sports people than anybody else at KNBR. Murphy is an ex reporter, is clearly the smartest guy at KNBR, and asks good questions. The way Sing treated them every week on that 15 minute interview was shameful. I’m not sure I could have handled it without blowing my stack and screaming at him. But they had to bite their tongue. Sing, gawd what a tool…

  11. snarkk said, on January 8, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    On this FP dude, there has to be somebody more adult who can match verbs and nouns and take the WS Champs’ post-game show to a higher level. I’m glad to see him gone for several reasons. First, I like listening to post-game, and he’s ruined it for me to the point I wouldn’t listen. He’s a typical baseball ignoramus. Baseball players are great to watch play, but to hear them talk is another matter altogether, most of them. Kruk and Kuip are obviously not the norm. Bad grammar, low level knowledge of the world outside of baseball, and it shows in his opinions. No depth to this clown at all. I echo Xoot’s view, too. Santangaroid was a ‘roider, and the worst kind. He was a AAAA player, but with ‘roids, he took an end roster spot away for 7 or 8 years from guys that never juiced. And, he didn’t come clean until he got outed by the Mitchell Report, of course then he said it was only because he got injured. Right. He’s got the occasional nice bit of insight as an ex-player, but hell, which player doesn’t if he can speak at a 10th grade level? Then after a nugget of info, he goes off into some sophomoric tangent about how many men’s clubs he visited in the bigs. Friggin’ adios, the Nats can have you…

  12. snarkk said, on January 8, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    If Lombardi had dropped onto the sideline in the middle of just about every Niner game the last few years, this is what he would say:


    Maybe Harbaugh can end the confusion…

  13. blade3colorado said, on January 8, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    Columnists are obviously checking out the Flap for ideas . . . To wit:

    A Yahoo Sports columnist wrote about the Pittsburg Pirates 18 years long streak of futility of sub .500 ball and ended his column with this haiku:

    Pirates in haiku

    We yearn for the days
    When our players did cocaine
    At least they were good

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on January 9, 2011 at 4:45 pm

      plagiarizing yahoos — well, not plagiaring; besides imitation is flattery

  14. blade3colorado said, on January 8, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    Cubs signing of Garza is another mistake by a club that wrote the book on mistakes . . . The dude is a fly ball pitcher that will pay the price at Wrigley Field (50 something HRs allowed in the last two years).

    . . . And this doesn’t hurt the Rays, since James Shields, Wade Davis, Jeff Niemann, Jeremy Hellickson, and David Price will still be on the staff.

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on January 9, 2011 at 4:45 pm

      I dunno; almost looks as if the Rays are cleaning house a la Marlins

  15. same time i dont know u said, on January 8, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    im glad FP is leaving . He brought luck cause we won the world series with him as the post game but he really is horrible. I hope they get a good hire for sport phone now but they will probably give it to urban. ( urban isnt that bad but he thinks he’s hella cool , which he is not )

  16. xootsuit said, on January 8, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    East Oakland ghetto kid Marshawn Lynch sure made a name for himself today. That ability of his to stop moving forward and suddenly slide sideways to break a tackle — that was his signature at Cal.

    • xootsuit said, on January 8, 2011 at 4:59 pm

      Bet they don’t interview him, however.

  17. Rough Trade said, on January 8, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    I was dead wrong about the Saints turning it up come playoff time. I thought I was watching the 49er secondary today. Credit Seattle for some inspired play, but NO looked flat.

  18. unca chuck said, on January 8, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    RT, on offense, NO was fine. Their DBs were roasted way too many times. They couldn’t catch up.

    Hasselhof, who looked 3 years gone in the Niners game, played unbelievably.

  19. Rough Trade said, on January 8, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Their offensive line was manhandled by Seattle.

  20. unca chuck said, on January 8, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    Krukow when he started was fairly similar to FP. Albeit he had a legit career. Kuip really taught him the ropes well in pretty short order.

    The yahoo 7th grade humor look at me shit gets old fast. Same with Morgan. His I never did anything wrong act got old quick. He got better, but it took 10 years. Miller had a lot to do with that. Just took a while to sink in.

  21. stixwiz said, on January 8, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    Depth of winter here in the Northwoods. Sposta drop to thirty below zero overnight. Burning extra oak before i hit the sack. Cookstove been going all day with a slow-cooking stew on its second day and some homemade clam chowder simmering away. Finally got to carving on my ‘One Flap Down’ piece for the first time in months. Hoping the chowder has a sufficiently large flavor to match the recipient of the piece. Maybe it will get finished and shipped before that 30-odd day calendar on the Flap runs outta numbers.

    • TedSpe said, on January 8, 2011 at 9:18 pm

      Lovely post stix.

      And nipper, I must reply to your charming diatribe earlier insulting me. First off, here are examples of your usual pointless posts that always enhance the conversation:

      I agree with twin
      Tim Lincecum is a really good baseball pitcher
      twin’s right
      I think Renteria’s home run really helped the Giants win the World Series
      I’m on board with what twin said
      It’s 162 games. You can’t win all of them.
      twinfan tells the truth. Listen to him.
      Matt Cain is a really good baseball good pitcher
      You should listen to what twin says
      Willie Mays was a Giant
      twin’s right. Why argue?
      I like Posey
      twin says I only like Posey because he’s young and white
      I don’t like Posey

      In other words, sycophantic, idiotic (needs meds) nipper…
      Go fuck yourself
      If I say twin wants you to…will you?
      Or more importantly..
      Can you?

  22. TedSpe said, on January 8, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    you’re too polite to say what I just wrote. But you’ve pointed it out yourself. So please allow me to be…the crass one

  23. TedSpe said, on January 8, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    ….and twin,
    I apologize for including you so much in that rant but nipper is so afraid of your wrath that he’d agree with you if you said the sun was the moon.
    Watch out, my friend.
    He’d lick your ass and say “I love leftovers”
    Creepy motherfucker
    In other words…

  24. TedSpe said, on January 8, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Sorry, gentlemen
    I’m through.
    I apologize

  25. TedSpe said, on January 8, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    And nipper?
    Go away
    go fuck youself (which is what I should have just said in the first place. But this was too fun)

    • Nipper said, on January 10, 2011 at 11:29 pm

      Damn Ted, I just love your rant. It’s like a HR in the bottom of the Ninth. Thanks.

  26. twinfan said, on January 9, 2011 at 8:32 am

    Nipper goes through phases- he was a chief Soph apologist for awhile. But gee, I AM always right, the man is just speaking the truth šŸ˜‰
    My consult with the neurosurgen is tomorrow, should get surgery date then. I’ll soon be a REAL Flapper.

  27. Flavor said, on January 9, 2011 at 9:19 am

    Nipper is who he is as we all are. I appreciated him apologizing for being such a douche bag after I started this blog……

    • Nipper said, on January 10, 2011 at 11:31 pm

      Thanks Flavor. Over time I’ve appreciated your efforts. Lets face it, life is seldom perfect.

  28. PawlieKokonuts said, on January 9, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Renteria pretty gracious to the Giants after all:


  29. PawlieKokonuts said, on January 9, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    I heartily recommend Mike Lupica’s column about Dallas Green today over at the NY Daily News.

    • snarkk said, on January 9, 2011 at 6:03 pm

      Devastating for him and all family members of the victims of that piece of human trash that shot up that gathering. I won’t go political here on any of that speculation. I will only say this. I have a 9 year old daughter. If that happened to her, I would want 10 minutes in a locked room alone with that 22 year old POS coward, no weapons. I may not know which one, but I guarantee one of us would not come out of there alive…

  30. Flavor said, on January 9, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    Well, I don’t known how gracious that was. It was a “catch ya on the flip side” goodbye. Now that I look back on it I can see where Renteria is getting his “disrespectful” stance. The Giants go ahead and decline his 9 mil option and then sign Tejada for 6.5. Then they offer Rent 1 mil. After everything he did (and let’s face it, there is no more important player than Renteria to SF Giants history right now) I can see where he looked at that and said…..”hmmmmm”.

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on January 9, 2011 at 6:38 pm

      Well, that’s what I mean: Renteria *displayed* a lot less bitterness than I would’ve. His comments were decent and diplomatic, perhaps coached a bit. But as I said here last week, I’ve come to see his point. I see the Giants’ business stance (already paid him all that money, etc.): Burreel got $1m — but that was Burrell’s choice. The MYSTERY that no one is talking about and no one is deciphering is his injury status in the postseason. It is simply one of the most vexing things I’ve ever read in sports. It was USA Today, or some source, that said his biceps had torn through and it actually made him feel better. Hunh? [Calling Dr. Sport Dude.] But he fielded and threw and HIT [ahem] great. So, it healed by itself? I am thoroughly baffled. And I don’t say that to doubt Renteria’s veracity or will or anything, it is simply baffling. What really happened? I don’t have the moxie to do extensive research, but it is just plain strange.

      • Rough Trade said, on January 9, 2011 at 7:11 pm

        I thought he had biceps tendon surgery (tenotomy), which removes the affected part of the tendon? It’s no longer that uncommon a procedure and does not require a long recovery time.

  31. snarkk said, on January 9, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    The Giants are about as forthcoming with injury information as NHL teams. You usually don’t hear about injuries until way after the fact, unless they happen obviously right in front of you in a game. Even then, the injury info is usually vague. The first I heard that Rent had a torn bicep was off of a Fox broadcast, I think. Not on the KNBR radio, not on the Comcast TV coverage. So, when I heard that, it was WTF, and how long has he had that? Of course, the beat writers are so lame around here, they find out about secret injuries and procedures way later, and rarely bird dog any deeper info…

  32. unca chuck said, on January 9, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    Wasn’t it nice of Sarah Palin to take the crosshairs off of Gabrielle Giffords’ district?

    • snarkk said, on January 9, 2011 at 7:39 pm

      Even better that she and the Toddster offered their “sincere condolences” to the victims and their families. So sweet of them to have their PR flacks come up with that so quickly…

  33. Macdog said, on January 9, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    Thank you Packers. My dog and I are celebrating 50 years of Eagles football without a championship.

    • unca chuck said, on January 9, 2011 at 7:15 pm

      Sorry, Mac. They’ve been close a whole shitload of times.

      Frankly, I’d love it if the Niners could pry Kevin Kolb off the team.

      Vick? Good luck with him.

      • Macdog said, on January 9, 2011 at 8:41 pm

        I guess that didn’t come across right: The Eagles are one of the two teams I despise above all others, along with the Cowboys. Vick? Thank god we won’t be hearing these inane announcers with their redemption stories about that POS dog murderer.

  34. unca chuck said, on January 9, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    The thing about Rent is, they paid him 18 mill for less than a season’s worth of work on a 2 year deal. He played, what 150 games for 2 years?

    That alone would give me reservations about giving him another deal, other than a $1 mill, incentive type thing. The fact there really isn’t any option on the farm makes it look a little worse, but whatever. I loved loved loved what he did in the playoffs for the Giants, but they need to move on.

  35. Rough Trade said, on January 9, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    From the article below: “According to The Bill James Handbook, Renteria has been one of the worst defensive shortstops over the past three seasons. UZR is not as harsh, but still ranks Renteria as barely replacement level over his career.”


  36. unca chuck said, on January 9, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    Pawlie, having torn a tendon in my ankle, it hurts like a mofo. Tearing it completely off could make it feel better I suppose. Depending on how much muscle is attached, whatever.

    It’s not like the whole thing detached. Was it Romanowski that happened to?

  37. Sportdude said, on January 9, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Hi Pawlie and all,
    A partially torn biceps tendon hurts because it is inflamed, and thus gets pinched when you raise your arm, to throw a ball as an example, or swing a bat. Biceps (bi as in two) has 2 tendons attaching it to the shoulder. If the partial tear becomes full it usually hurts less, although you will lose some strength.
    I agree that it was odd that no one from Giants ever mentioned it..

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on January 10, 2011 at 11:48 am

      thank you for the succinct education, Sportsdude doctor type guy

  38. Unca Chuck said, on January 10, 2011 at 9:09 am

    Ahhh, now i remember. It was Ken Norton. His bicep was rolled up to the top of his arm like a venician blind. That kind of tear will slow ya down.

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