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The Difference Between DeRosa and Tejada (and Rowand and Zito)

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on May 19, 2011

It bothered me last night to see the posts that made light of DeRosa going down mid at bat last night. It made me wonder why I don’t share the same feelings when I see a Tejada, Rowand or Zito dig. In fact, I lead the way on many of those *roast posts*…..

Watching DeRosa flinch in pain and leave the game, without even taking a swing, just magnified, for me, the pain and the struggle and the hard work that guy has put in over the last 2 years. So many set backs and how frustrating must it be for him to be forced out by something as peripheral to the body as a wrist? For a baseball player though, it’s a key part of the body.  It’s obvious that DeRosa loves the game and wants to be out on the field. It’s also obvious that his career is over and wouldn’t you rather end your career because you chose to rather than have it chosen for you? Watching him throw his helmet into the dugout was just sad to see.

I don’t doubt the effort from guys like Tejada, Rowand and Zito. And their is ultimate honor in effort. I think I just get so tired of watching them fail that I finally can’t take it anymore and vent my frustrations with blog posts making fun of their failure. With DeRosa, I never had to watch him fail (at least, not as many times as the other guys) so instead of getting tired of him I just feel for him that it all came to end end so quickly…..

But when it finally does end for guys like Miggy and Rowand and Zito I will force myself to take a moment and honor their commitment to this game. I often get focused with the results on the field, the box scores, the underlying sabermetric numbers— but there is no metric to measure how hard you work in the gym, or how many times you see a doctor, or how much it hurts to get injured and have to watch your friends play on the field without you…..

They’re saying DeRosa just has a strained wrist and who knows, maybe he comes off the DL and gets a few more at bats. But I think it’s obvious that it’s over for him. And right now I can honestly say that I regret every Noah Lowry post that I ever made especially the ones after he got hurt……

Hate a player’s performance, it’s part of being a fan, but don’t ever forget to honor their effort or their commitment to the game……..

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  1. Bozo said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    Make em pay Tejada, make em pay.

  2. DJLoo said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Debatable sac?

  3. Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    really surprised at how few fans are at this game. Forget the rivalry, no one is coming out to see the WS champion? The Dodgers are a mess right now and it’s actually not something to celebrate. A raucous Giants/Dodgers rivalry game is the tits, this game feels like a Pitt/KC inter league game…

    • Bozo said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:30 pm

      Gotta love the guy behind HP. Giants cap and orange tee.

  4. snarkk said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    Wow. There is nobody at this game. The upper deck is half full, at best…

  5. Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    that’s two hits and 2 major brush backs. I’d be surprised if Bum doesn’t hit someone next inning and it will probably totally fuck up his game……

    • TedSpe said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:40 pm

      He won’t

  6. Unca Chuck said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    The thing about the Giants is, really, who comes out to see pitching?

    Their road totals are very underwhelming. Your average fans comes out to see Pujols, not Timmy . . .

    • TedSpe said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:41 pm

      Chuck…I love you man but thinking great pitchers are not an attraction?
      Uhm…

  7. Unca Chuck said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    Well, they sure ain’t geting the numbers on the raod . . .

  8. Unca Chuck said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Or road . . .

  9. TedSpe said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    See Flav’s 8:26pm post above

  10. Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    their road totals are underwhelming? WTF are you talking about?

  11. twinfan said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    That ball seemed to be rolling still, not sure why Bum didn’t let it go. Or maybe I’m seeing things.

  12. TedSpe said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    I love him…but (twin’s favorite word):
    MadBum *does* look like an extra in DELIVERENCE.
    SQUEEEEL!!

    • TedSpe said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:50 pm

      Say, son. Ya’ll ever done time? Ya’ll gotta purty mouf

  13. stixwiz said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Barbara was able to summon up enough to K. Curly Joe when he needed to, but prior to that he was a full-blown mess controlwise with his second HBP plus that pair of walks. He’s over 90 pitches through five. Chances are better than fair that SF will get some more peeks at the LaBumbos BP. Perhaps the ownership mess and the attendant general breakdown in morale is starting to get to guys like Kershaw and Billingsley. We’ll take it.

  14. Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    this is overall. And the Giants are tied with Boston for 3rd..
    http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance/_/sort/allAvg

    • Unca Chuck said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:55 pm

      You are looking at overall attendance, not road attendance. Flav . . .

  15. Unca Chuck said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    I got 9th for SF on the road.

  16. snarkk said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Could be the highly increased police presence. Half the bleachers and upper deck denizens probably have outstanding warrants…

  17. DJLoo said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Every time I hear Juan Castro’s walk-up music I get a craving for a piece of Hyman Roth’s birthday cake.

    • TedSpe said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:58 pm

      I loved baseball ever since Arnold Rothstien fixed the World Series in 1919.

  18. Unca Chuck said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Not as bad as I thought, but not great. KC leads in road attendance?

    \\http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance/_/sort/awayAvg

  19. Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    9th in all of MLB. How is that *very underwhelming*? Kansas City is #1. So what have we learned from this lesson, Chuck?

    • Unca Chuck said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:58 pm

      We’re talking road attendance Flav. Not overall.

      You think people are thrilled about KC’s new batch of prospects?

      People come to see their team beat on a shitty one.

      • DJLoo said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:01 pm

        I think that’s worth repeating.

  20. Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    We are 3rd overall and will hit #1 by June 15 with all our home games……

  21. Bozo said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Way to go Hollywood.

  22. Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    “hey honey, Kansas City is in town, let’s go catch a game”
    “well, their pitching sucks but I’m down, I HAVE to go see Billy Butler and Alex Gordon hit!”

  23. willied said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    another nice piece of hitting from sanchez…sac works.

  24. Unca Chuck said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    We’re talking road attendance Flav. Not overall.

    You think people are thrilled about KC’s new batch of prospects?

    People come to see their team beat on a shitty one.

  25. snarkk said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Dynamic pricing. KC in town, tix price goes down?….

  26. DJLoo said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Maybe it’s because the Royals road tix are the cheapest.

    • TedSpe said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:04 pm

      Just like my girlfriend

      • UsedtobebigSarge said, on May 19, 2011 at 11:21 pm

        Well played

  27. twinfan said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    I think we need a whole thread tomorrow on road attendance..

  28. Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    I thought they came out to see Pujols as you originally argued. And you are full of shit, the average fan doesn’t come out to see a bunch of nobodies they’ve never heard of. Where is your *Pujols* in the KC line up?
    The fact is, it’s a small sample size and there’s no reason why KC is on top.Maybe it’s dynamic pricing? Maybe they played a bunch of good teams who get good home attendance regardless. maybe they played a bunch of team with stud SP’s that day. But that would invalidate your argument so that’s out, right Chuck?

  29. TedSpe said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    MadBum is *SO* fucking on tonight

    • DJLoo said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:09 pm

      Bum’s gonna be our #2 SP come playoff time.
      Hope were in it.

  30. stixwiz said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Ted: You beat me to the punch. Bumgarner threw a very NICE 6th, not letting that walk get to him, finally capping Uribe and then getting Giant-Killer Barajas. Tonight he’s pitching like a World Series winner.

    • TedSpe said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:16 pm

      Thanks, stix. But I just type faster then you

  31. Unca Chuck said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Whatever, Flav. One would think the WS champs would do better than 9th. Maybe they will as the season goes on. The G’s have played a lot of road division games. Shouldn’t that give the numbers a boost? I know the Washington games were deserted, but that’s because their team sucks ass.

    Teams like the Cranks and Boston will ALWAYS be the top draws on the road.

    These fuckers sure are coming inside a lot.

    • Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:13 pm

      who would you rather see the Giants play at home, San Diego or Cincinnati? Playing a division rival, at this point in the season, is meaningless to attendance unless it’s a major rivalry…..

  32. Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Unca Chuck said, on May 19, 2011 at 8:39 pm (Edit)

    Their road totals are very underwhelming. Your average fans comes out to see Pujols, not Timmy . . .

    Edited version:
    “Their road totals are very underwhelming. Your average fans comes out to see their team beat up on a shitty team”….

  33. Unca Chuck said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    I’m referring to KC.

  34. Unca Chuck said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    People go to games for sifferent reasons.

    • Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:15 pm

      I can live with this post and stop arguing now…..

  35. Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    I understood it, dude. My point is that you are arguing two totally different things to make your point (which you didn’t make)

    • DJLoo said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:16 pm

      Oh, what’s the fuckin’ sifference?

  36. DJLoo said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Hope she’s got a switchblade under that Panda hat.

    • TedSpe said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:18 pm

      Is she…swickable?

      • twinfan said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:23 pm

        Well, wasn’t she like, twelve?

      • TedSpe said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:25 pm

        God, I hope not, twin. Now you’re making me feel…lousy

  37. Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    Loo, got a lead on D’Antoni’s two whores? I kinda miss them……

    • TedSpe said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:20 pm

      We all do

  38. DJLoo said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Never spotted ’em again, Flav. Wasn’t that game like 80-80 at halftime?

  39. TedSpe said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    Tony Gwynne Jr.
    Worst…walk…up…music…ever

  40. Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    When he pitches like this you say, “dude looks like he could go 17-6 this year”….
    Loo, once again your memory has no equal. Nice call on nailing the Schmidt trivia, btw….

  41. snarkk said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Bum is at about 105 pitches. He’s free and EZ. I’d start him in the 9th, see if he can finish…

    • Macdog said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:51 pm

      Irate Yanks fans called into NYC sports radio today upset that Colon should’ve pitched the 9th last night instead of Mariano.

  42. twinfan said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    One way to avoid freaking out when you get in trouble is… not get in trouble. Stellar outing..

  43. twinfan said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Bochy has really extended all 4 guys this week…with, as we know, mixed results.

  44. twinfan said, on May 19, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    Belt with another HR… Surkamp, in Richmond, with another big effort… Gary Brown raking in San Jose…378 25 SB

  45. James said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Really too bad . . . can’t decide if I dislike Barajas or Henry Blanco more.

  46. mrmrbill said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    sad he’s not gonna get the CG SHO, but damn he turned it up to 11 tonight. Congrats, Bummie.

  47. mrmrbill said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    errr… Schultz. 🙂

  48. twinfan said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    Jesus Horatio Christ

  49. mrmrbill said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    Hippo, don’t fuck this up.

  50. Macdog said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    What Twin said.

  51. Macdog said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Nate gets the save!

    • willied said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:12 pm

      shares it with wotus.

  52. xootsuit said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Ugh! Noooooo!!!! Yesssssss!!! Alright!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh no not again!!!!!!! Come on now. . . . . Don’t fuck this up. Bum needs the win, not you, Wilson. My lord not again. Nail it down, dammt. Wow. Wow. I don’t believe it. I don’t believe it.

  53. mrmrbill said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Other Schultz!

  54. twinfan said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Wow- game over Bums if he doesn’t get that. Awesome.

  55. snarkk said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Had it in the bag all the way…

  56. Rough Trade said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Nate demonstrates his value. Wow, a beauty.

  57. Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Fabulously fantasticly torturistic………

  58. twinfan said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    If he plays it safe, 2 score, tie game. It’s not usually a play you want the guy to make- but Holy Moley- that’s #1 web gem in my book..

  59. stixwiz said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    One lousy out away from nailing the CG shutout and then the aria by the Drama Queen. Bases loaded and the lineout to Nate. Tonight the drama was all saved till the penultimate moment with 2 outs in the 9th. But you know what? Giants have the best 1-6 starter in MLB.

  60. Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    and that ball was caught well to his left. Just an unbelievable catch……

  61. Flavor said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Nice to see that Zito has shaved off that moo-stash. Gay 70’s porn must have wanted it back……..

  62. zumarust said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Ah, what can you say except….baseball! You gotta love it.

  63. stixwiz said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    After that catch, if the Giants Brass decides to unload an outfielder its not highly likely to be Schierholtz. Isn’t it nice how great rhymes with Nate?

    The road trip ended up in a .3-3 split. Good teams play .500 ball on the road and clean house at home. After the shellacking they took from the Twins today, i’m sure Oakland is not greatly looking forward to the weekend series on McCovey Cove. Vogelsong, Lincecum and Sanchez over the next 3. Giants hold onto their half game lead and now have six at home, with Florida coming in after the A’s.

  64. unca chuck said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    Good God. Nights like this, I miss Robb Nen . . .

    That ball gets by Nate, it’s ballgame the other way . . . helluva catch. . .

    Another psycho road trip from hell that ends up 3-3.

    That 11-4 loss seems like a long time ago.

  65. DJLoo said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    PLAY IT LOUD!!!!!

    http://tinyurl.com/4xgoqko

  66. twinfan said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Belt can now come up without dumping Nate, Rowand, or Burrell. Ford would go.

    • xootsuit said, on May 19, 2011 at 11:35 pm

      I think I suggested that last night.

      • twinfan said, on May 20, 2011 at 8:21 am

        If you did, I didn’t see it. Good for you, though.

  67. DJLoo said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    How the fuck do you guys go right to sleep after that?

    • zumarust said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:41 pm

      I don’t.

    • Macdog said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:47 pm

      Watch A’s Rewind?

    • TedSpe said, on May 20, 2011 at 12:55 am

      Drugs.
      Lotsa lotsa lotsa drugs

  68. zumarust said, on May 19, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    Obviously, I wanted the Phils to beat the Rockies tonight, but there is something hilarious about 45,000 Phillie fans watching old geezer Giambi take 3 homerun trots.

  69. TedSpe said, on May 19, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    And then…I woke up


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