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When Champions Shine

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 3, 2011

This trip provided us a great reminder that we are the World Champions. I’d forgotten about how cool Aubry Huff’s HR trots are. They’ve got like this understated jazzy flair–almost the exact opposite of my main man Jeff Leonard. He’ll give a little gentle bat flip, he pauses before touching a bag and then speeds up as he touches it–almost imperceptible. For a moment, it’s like watching old film from the 30’s. Anyway, I hope those three BOMBS are enough to get him going. And bombs are really going to have to be the cornerstone of how we generate runs this year. We were never a small ball team. Not last year, not this year. And we don’t need to lead the league in HR’s but we do need to hit them to win games consistently. St Louis got an SF Giant Slap Down this week………

Without further adieu I give you….The Flap Fantasy Baseball Standings (There’s been a lot of movement since I last posted the standings. As Edd warned us this morning on the message board, “baseball is a long season….” Muhuahahahahaha!!!!!)

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  1. blade3colorado said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:28 am

    My FL team is reminding me of what’s probably going to happen today in the stock market (grin). You heard it here before the opening bell – expect a loss of over 200 points in the DOW (at least today). SELL, SELL, SELL . . . If only I could do that with the Tim Stauffer’s of the world.

  2. xootsuit said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:57 am

    Huff has a little stutter-step he sometimes uses on his trot to be sure he hits the bag with his foot in a certain way. No big deal. There’s something about his bearing, when things are going right, that’s cool. I keep thinking of characters Clint Eastwood portrays.

    In some ways, Freddy’s HR was the most impressive. I don’t think you turn on a 98-99 mph FB like that if your shoulder’s bothering you.

  3. stixwiz said, on June 3, 2011 at 7:32 am

    Recall that when i tuned into the game last night around the fifth inning that some of the Flappers were remarking on how the St. Louis starter had a no-no going up to the point of Huff’s first man-on bomb. Though it had improved from last season, Giants still had some tendencies towards not hitting even so-so or outright bad pitchers.

    Maybe that changed mid-game last night. Pitching may be the name of the game and defense keeps it solid, but the sticks is what ultimately gets you there. Could be last night’s explosion against the Cards changed the dynamics a bit. Primary hitting problem all season had been lack of production from the two main producer spots, the 3-hole and cleanup. Ten RBI’s by Freddy and Aubrey would have covered a full week’s worth of production from those spots back in April and May.

    Nice to see that the bats are back.

  4. TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 7:57 am

    H.R. Huffnstuf,
    Who’s your friend when things get rough?
    H.R. Huffnstuf
    Can’t do a little cause he can’t do enough.

  5. willied said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:10 am

    Imminent return of Panda, Huff ross torres rolling, that’s bad news for the rox and the rest of the league. given what SF has been through so far, they should be 5 games back at least. Instead there are only two teams in the NL with more Ws, and one of those they just spanked in their own yard.
    @MrBill…I used to make deliveries for my co when we owned a store on 4th St. in downtown rafael. there was a great place for burritos one block down on 3rd and I think it was lincoln, where the light is near the tracks before the fwy underpass.

  6. dirtnrocksnreno said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:13 am

    I thought Flav might just take yesterdays post, switch out Nate for Sanchez and change a few sentences. All that chaos and he still gets the W but the bazarro world stat to me is Sanchez hitting .261.

    Having him on my FL I am biased but Franchez has been lighting it up at the plate and with the glove.

  7. willied said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:37 am

    Pitcher’s weather, as Kruk likes to say, probably the norm for this weekend too. Tonite should be Stick-like…track could be “cloudy and sloppy.”
    And our headline boy from the day before goes 0-5 in the middle of the LU. The more things change….

  8. Rough Trade said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:45 am

    Barring any major injury (KOW) they should win the division. Awfully early, but I caught myself already looking ahead to the postseason, wondering if they have enough firepower for another run. Three keys are missing from last yr; Posey Uribe and Renteria. On the other side of the ledger, they have a rejuvenated Pablo. Hopefully anyway. That leaves them shy about 20 hrs and a couple of clutch performers. The candidates are Nate, Burrell and Tejada. Some tough decisions lie ahead.

  9. Unca Chuck said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:47 am

    Sabean’s on the warpath, Cousins is getting death threats, and Ray Ratto thinks Sabes’ comments are way out of line and that Posey is dictating to the team and the world that he’s the most important Giant.

    Well, the comments were pretty harsh, but Ratto is satying Sabes will be fined for saying his piece.

    Is it true that Posey won’t take Cousins’ phone calls?

    • xootsuit said, on June 3, 2011 at 9:08 am

      Ray Ratto gets physically fatter by the day in direct proportion to his shrinking profile professionally. He got fired from the chron; now he’s screaming for attention from his tiny insignificant corner of the journalistic universe. Fucking Bip Roberts makes more sense than Ratto does these days.

      btw, I’ll bet a lot of ballplayers get death threats we never hear about. You know Bonds did. “It’s part of the game.”

      • Unca Chuck said, on June 3, 2011 at 9:13 am

        Yeah, and we heard about them . . .

      • xootsuit said, on June 3, 2011 at 9:44 am

        About some of them, starting after the Robert DeNiro Wesley Snipes movie. Jeezus.

  10. Unca Chuck said, on June 3, 2011 at 9:01 am

    Yeah, Willied, as quickly as these guys pounded runs across the plate, it can vaporize just as fast.

    They get Juan Nicasio tonight. The guy who replaced De La Rosa. He’s a hard-throwing rookie who shut the Cards down last week in his only big league start.

  11. twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 9:14 am

    Snarkkles said: “At least I make a prediction, and admit it’s a shot in the dark”
    Not quite, Ex-Lax. You predicted a 2-5 road trp, I predicted 4-3. They are “shots in the dark” only because you were wrong, I was right.
    Anyway, no fan picks their team to tank a road trip for “shits and grins”.
    “To do do something for no reason than to have a laugh”…
    As to Sabean’s remarks, so what if they were harsh, and so what if Posey chooses not to return Cousins’ calls. I’m sick to death of the “part of the game” argument. As BP’s Clay Cavenport noted:
    “There are also voices out there who seem to believe that the rules of baseball were carried from Mt. Sinai by a some 19th-century Moses, and that we shouldn’t change them just for this. If you will look at the history of 19th century baseball, though, you will find that rules were changed almost every year, on matters both more and less substantial than the issue we’re looking at here. No one should ever shy away from changing a rule (or, for that matter, a law), if it is the right thing to do, simply because it has always been done some other way. ” And the undeniable fact is that catchers do need to be protected and equally undeniable is the fact that Cousins made no attempt to reach home plate. It was a dirty play whether it was ilegal or not.Cousins can suffer the harsh words, it seems that will be his only punishment.

    • xootsuit said, on June 3, 2011 at 9:50 am

      Reruns of the play seem unavoidable. Now when I see it, I’m focusing more and more on the way Cousins went out of his way to aim and slam Posey’s right shoulder. On a scale of 1 to 10, Cousins’s choice was at least an 8. A 10 would’ve been a smash to the face and head, and a broken neck. The malice in Cousins’s hit is obvious. He deserves whatever shit rains down on him now.

    • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 11:56 am

      You got the 4-3 right. Cool. How much money did you win?
      I wish it were 7-0…

  12. Del Mar Dennis said, on June 3, 2011 at 9:27 am

    Sabean’s gonna get a reprimand (phone call) from Joe Torre re his comments on Cousins.
    Hopefully he’ll be busy on the other line trying to trade for Reyes.

    • Rough Trade said, on June 3, 2011 at 10:01 am

      But Del Mar, you posted on June 1, 2011 at 8:49 pm

      “And some of you guys were doubting this kid. Shame on you. Crawford’s our SS the rest of the way.
      Get used to it.”

  13. Del Mar Dennis said, on June 3, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Anyone wanna take a guess if the apology will come before or after tonight’s first pitch?
    Since an O/U is not involved, Senator Doomin’ Denny from California will abstain.
    I yield my remaining two minutes to the Flap floor…

    • Unca Chuck said, on June 3, 2011 at 10:44 am

      Sabes ain’t apologizing . . .

      • Del Mar Dennis said, on June 3, 2011 at 10:52 am

        He’s getting a call from the league office. Torre’s not calling to ask about Sabean’s golf game. He’s apologizing.

  14. TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 10:13 am

    Doomin’s Denny, you’re not *that* bad. A *true* Doomer would say something like:
    Dr. Jack Kevorkian passed away. Shit. There go my plans for this weekend.

    • Del Mar Dennis said, on June 3, 2011 at 10:21 am

      I want my deposit back.

  15. twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 10:16 am

    Where in the order should Huff bat tonight?

    • TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 10:31 am

      I’d sit him for a game

  16. twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 10:34 am

    Same play almost, different uniforms. Buster was luckier than Stingley.
    tatum

  17. Unca Chuck said, on June 3, 2011 at 11:12 am

    The stupid thing about all this ‘part of the game’ shit is by that theory, the Ginats should retaiate in full force. Pull a little Pedro Martinez action next time they face Cousins. . .

    Cain beaning Cousins is within the ‘part of the game’ paramters. Shit, Ross gets bile and anger and calls for retaliation for flipping his bat after a home run.

    Take out a star player for the season? Well, why not? Drill Cousins in the earhole. If he dies as a result, too bad. Part of the game. Better yet, drill ont of their stars, say HamRam.

    • TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 11:23 am

      I doubt Cousins will play in any game against the Giants for at least 2 years

      • twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 11:26 am

        Cousins is hitting .159. Good chance this is his 15 minutes.

      • TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 11:37 am

        Good point. What a shitty legacy

  18. TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 11:18 am

    R.I.P. James Arness

  19. Del Mar Dennis said, on June 3, 2011 at 11:34 am

    That wild RP, Cleto, earned himself a trip back to the minors after last night’s effort.
    If the Tin Man and I had a heart, we might feel bad for ’em.

  20. mrmrbill said, on June 3, 2011 at 11:39 am

    Well, Ratto knows as much about sports — as the Indian from the Village People knows about music. I wouldn’t sweat it.

  21. snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Sabean is getting broadsided nationally from just about everyone. He has a right to be angry and pissed. But, he used very poor judgment to use the words he did. You can’t personally target a ballplayer like that. Using words like “malicious” and essentially calling for Cousins to be out of the league went way, way over the line, especially for a person in high management. He came off like a big bully, and brought disrespect onto the Giants organization, where before there was empathy due to Buster’s injury. I’ll bet Bow Tie is laying into him this morning. I would not be surprised to see a fine coming down from the Budster’s office, and it would be deserved…

    • twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 12:42 pm

      Posey was “targeted”, Cousins has been called out for it. I agree that Sabean’s words were unfortunate and he probably will be fined. But making his remarks a bigger issue than what Cousins did is typical bullshit.
      Some variation on the McCarver Rule and what Bochy proposed needs to be implemented.
      Empathy for Posey? Outside of SF nearly all sentiment was in favor of Cousins. And only because it’s SF.

  22. twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    All of those Comcast “insiders” sat at their round table last year and Sophed it up to the very end.No playoffs, no division, no pennant, no World Series. Only Urban called it ( at the beginning of the season, BTW). Wonder if Ratto punched him in the throat?
    Sportswriters don’t mind lying if it will further their take. Yesterday Jenkins wrote that Cousins would been almost surely out if he’d slid. The oppposite was true ,as Posey had lost the ball.
    But it’s not relevant- you can’t justify assault because it’s the only method that will let you have your way. And that is the true bottom line-Cousins assaulted Posey because he saw it it as the only way he could score.

  23. xootsuit said, on June 3, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    I bet everything Sabean said on the radio program was pre-approved by Larry Baer.

    • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 12:54 pm

      I doubt it. Baer is too smart for that. Baer would have anticipated the intense anti-Giants blow back it is generating all over the country. If he did approve it, he was more of a doofus than Sabean in saying it…

      • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 1:05 pm

        I heard it. All of it. If you want to believe Baer approved it, wrote it, edited it, whatever, go ahead. Doesn’t mean I have to. If Baer was involved, like I said, it doesn’t show well for his professionalism. The Giants as an organization are getting skewered nationally because of this. It is an embarrassment…

      • xootsuit said, on June 3, 2011 at 1:21 pm

        Sabean delivered a prepared statement at the start of the radio program. He did it well, so that it didn’t sound canned. But he carefully modified “malicious” that time around. In any event, the hit was malicious. Cousins intended to hit Posey as hard as possible on the right side of his body to prevent Posey from making the play. Cousins understood that his hit was going to inflict some degree of injury and he deliberately made the hit.

    • xootsuit said, on June 3, 2011 at 12:58 pm

      In saying what? Have you actually llistened to the radio broadcast? I actually think some of the stuff Sabean said late in the interview was ad libbed and off script. The opening statement he gave could have been read off a legal dept. memorandum.

      • xootsuit said, on June 3, 2011 at 12:59 pm

        I mean — now that I’ve listened to the broadcast audio, that’s what I’m concluding. After you get around to doing your homework, check back.

  24. twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    He obviously knew that his statement would insure that Cousins would not appear against them again, so it’s completely arguable that he saved the young man from 95 MPH to the temple.An unwritten rule in baseball is that a pitcher is expected to hit a batter in certain circumstances or be shunned by his teammates. This would certainly apply here. It’s part of the game…

    • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 12:57 pm

      The Giants could have put one in the ear of Hanley Ramirez or Stanton the next day, the last game of that series. They didn’t…

  25. zumarust said, on June 3, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    The longball this week brought victories. The return of Sandoval will upgrade thirdbase. I’m guessing Burriss gets sent down. But what about the return of Font? Crawford’s grandslam may have saved the Giants season. Tough decision there for the Giants.

  26. twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    Do you have a point? Cousins blew up Posey, not Ramirez or Stanton.

    • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 1:11 pm

      Cousins didn’t bat the next game, doofus, the Marlins obviously kept him under wraps. You’re supposed to be all knowing about baseball. The unwritten rule is you hurt our best guy, we hurt yours. The Giants had the opportunity the very next day to make that point in the old baseball way, yet they did not. If they were that pissed, and thought that Cousins “assaulted” Posey, then they should have gotten their “justice” the very next day…

      • zumarust said, on June 3, 2011 at 1:16 pm

        Not necessarily. The unwritten rules leave room for variation. That’s why Sabean made the “long memory” comment. The next time Cousins bats against the Giants, he will get thrown at, very likely.
        Perhaps the bigger problem for Cousins is that there is now one less MLB baseball organization that will ever hire him. He has slightly less options in his baseball future now.

      • twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 1:21 pm

        “Cousins didn’t bat the next game, doofus” That’s the point, shitferbrains. This was not a fucking bat flip. You don’t retaliate against anyone but the player who caused the injry.

      • xootsuit said, on June 3, 2011 at 1:22 pm

        fewer. Fewer options now. (Just trying to lighten up.)

  27. Rough Trade said, on June 3, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    This gets everyone talking about the issue and the issue of protecting catchers. If that was Sabean’s intention, a fine is a small price to pay.

    • zumarust said, on June 3, 2011 at 1:20 pm

      Selig has all the progressive foresight and vision of a piece of dog poop.

      • Unca Chuck said, on June 3, 2011 at 1:30 pm

        Right. Wait for the catastrophic injury before we revisit this.

        Let’s not get started on maple bats. Even after a runner coming down 3rd base had a lung punctured when a shard of a maple bat speared him . . .

      • Rough Trade said, on June 3, 2011 at 1:39 pm

        It’s not up to Selig. The power lies with the owners and players union.

      • Unca Chuck said, on June 3, 2011 at 1:53 pm

        Bullshit. The fact that he kowtows to them is a big part of the problem.

      • Rough Trade said, on June 3, 2011 at 2:16 pm

        “Baseball Rules Committee has the power to change the rules, but in order for the changes to be implemented in MLB, the Players Association must approve them.”

  28. twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    Who could possibly justify slugging Snarkles because PickledGringo was outta line? Uh, wait..

    • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 1:47 pm

      Get real. Star players not involved in the alleged bad behavior have been targeted since dirt by the aggrieved team to make the tit for tat retaliatory move. If you deny that, you’re just FOS, as usual…

  29. eddacker said, on June 3, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    I love a good fight.
    But I cannot see; where does this one end?
    Perhaps you could move this shit to room B and we could talk baseball?
    but then again, go on,

    • blade3colorado said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:07 pm

      Good post Ed.

  30. Sierra Nevada said, on June 3, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    I like what Sabean is doing. There is a lot of anger in the Giants clubhouse and he is making himself the lightning rod so that none of the players have to. Remember that Sabes is a very smart guy, no way he came out with those comments without thinking.

    The thing to remember is that Cousins’ hit crossed the line. If the powers that be in mlb don’t take a proactive stance on this issue, out of control shit is just going to keep reverberating throughout the league. What Sabean is trying to force the league to acknowledge: Either the adults in charge are going to step up and make changes or the testosterone-fueled competitive motherfuckers on the field are going to take matters into their own hands.

    • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 2:31 pm

      If you believe Cousins crossed a line or “the” line, or whatever line it was, fine. Then JT crossed it when he hit Pudge in Miami in 2003. Look at the video. Pudge had the ball in hand from Conine’s throw when JT was still 15 feet from the plate. Pudge was not blocking the plate, he was on the 3rd base side of the plate, and there was a lane for JT to slide on the field side of the plate. JT blew him up 5 feet backward, even with arms extended to try to dislodge the ball. JT made no attempt at a slide. Nobody at that time callied that an “assault”. The yelling then was why didn’t Selipe pinch run for JT…

      • xootsuit said, on June 3, 2011 at 2:39 pm

        Pudge was squared up and ready. Posey was fumbling for the ball. (Re-read his account of the hit, if you don’t remember the part about how suddenly Cousins was on him.) JT’s hit was far less likely to cause serious harm. Otherwise, the plays are similar. Degree of recklessness is what’s important. Cousins’s hit on the right side of an unprepared catcher was horrifically reckless. JT’s direct hit, not at all.

      • TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 2:48 pm

        Plus…JT was out
        (I don’t know the relevance either)

      • Sierra Nevada said, on June 3, 2011 at 3:22 pm

        Two things snarkk.

        First, I sincerely hope that a rule change addresses all collision plays at the plate, and gives the players a chance to both compete intensely and avoid obviously shitty plays like Cousins, and gives the umps clear guidance to call shitheads like Cousins out, and allows the league to dole out punishment so that players don’t have to do dumb retaliatory shit. If that means that a guy like JT would have been called out and reviled for his play back in the day, then that is cool with me.

        Second, if you can’t see that Cousins play was dirty, then you are a dumbass.

      • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 3:30 pm

        I’m cool with looking at a new rule.
        As to not seeing a dirty play, I’m joined by most of the rest of the country. The blogs and opinon guys across the country don’t see dirty, don’t see malice, don’t see assault. I saw an unfortunate, unlucky result for the Giants. I wish it hadn’t happened. I guess most of the rest of the country’s baseball fans are dumbasses…

  31. eddacker said, on June 3, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    Speaking of baseball tonight, I just saw the forecast in the Chrondonicle and tonights game could be rained out as well as tomorrow’s.
    What is the word there now?

    • xootsuit said, on June 3, 2011 at 2:32 pm

      Cloudy and threatening rain now. Supposed to be light rain starting soon, but not heavy until 10 pm or so. Tomorrow morning is going to see heavy rain, tapering down to drizzle about game time.

  32. Sierra Nevada said, on June 3, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    As far as the “star players” getting hit goes: that is part of the problem that needs to be addressed in a rule change. A star in today’s game would never make the shitty play that Cousins did, maybe 40 years ago but not today. Too much future earnings at stake. Even a hothead like Tulo would never make that play because he knows that there is a significant chance that his career, and his earnings, could be impacted by injury on the play or by the retaliation in kind.

    As things now stand, the fact that Cousins’ dirty play is legal means teams can put scrubs in a PR in those situations. The fact that the Giants will probably never see Cousins in a game again removes the “fear of retaliation factor.” Cousins can get up, dust himself off, and try to weasel out with an apology, and the Marlins will pay no price because, even if the Giants do manage to retaliate against Cousins, the Marlins lose nothing but a worthless player anyway.

    Fucking change the rules, and this problem goes away.

  33. stixwiz said, on June 3, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    My two cents: Immediately after the hit and for several days afterwards the Giants as a team, management and most of the fan-base was essentially in a state of shock. That’s why there was no immediate retaliation or some heavy chin-music on a Marlins’ star the next day.

    Sabean is going fishing with his comments when he cites “long memory”. He seems more a poker player than a chess-master with this move. Brian raised the bid and Budster has to call or counter. Marlins are hoping it can get settled at that level. To quote Dylan:
    “The wheel’s still in spin”.

  34. SanDawg said, on June 3, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Thank God we won the world series last year, or remembering the JT/Pudge collision would have sent me into another 3 day funk.
    I was at a wedding reception in downtown SF when that all went down. I’m a pretty mellow guy, but I was screaming for JT to ABSOLUTELY DESTROY Pudge as he came down the 3rd base line. It was quite a sight I’m sure—me in my suit going nuts as if the fate of the world depended on him scoring that run while the other guests casually watched the game. Of course I went on to get completely shitfaced at the reception. Between all of the cocktails and Indian food, my stomach was an absolute mess and later I ended up spending a good 45 minutes on the can at Lefty O’Doul’s—a record for me in a public facility that will never be broken.

    Ex #2 laughs about all that now. She wasn’t laughing then.

    • TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 3:39 pm

      So *you* were the guy in there that whole time

  35. twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    Initially my thoughts were to not demonize Cousins but condemn the practice. But after reviewing the video, I think it’s clear the hit was malicious in nature. Watch the final shoulder thrust- the intent was to do harm or AT BEST, wanton disregard ( overwhelming lack of care for the rights or wellbeing of another.)
    of the nearly certain consequences.

    • Sierra Nevada said, on June 3, 2011 at 3:45 pm

      In calling Snarkk a dumbass, I am not talking about looking at the play and making a snap judgement. I am talking about what you did Twin. You took your time, reviewed the clip, and changed your judgement. I went through the same process myself. When I first saw the play, my thought was “That sucks, too bad shit like that happens.” After looking at replays and particularly the freeze frames of where Posey was set up and how Cousins came in, I changed my mind. No way shit like that should be allowed to go down at the plate.

      Snarkk, wrapping yourself in the majority opinion, when the majority is not inclined to look at something and change their views based on evidence, is also a dumbass move.

      You calling out Sabean for his efforts to make the league a better and safer product, from the comfort of erroneous mass opinion, well there are even worse names for that.

      • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 4:02 pm

        Whatever. You are clearly in the minority. That in itself is not necessarily the maker of wrong on an issue, but it is in this case. As for defending Sabean’s comments, go ahead. The nation is almost universally hammering him on them. The comments were bush, and bullying. Neukom should disavow them as the head of the franchise. They’re bringing embarrassment to a class organization on a national stage, and it was totally unnecessary…

  36. Del Mar Dennis said, on June 3, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    Juan Marichal hit Johnny Roseboro over the head with a bat and he’s in the HOF.
    Scott Cousins ran over our catcher and people want him dead. Enjoy tonight’s game and try to keep things in perspective.

    Torres CF, Burriss 3B, Sanchez 2B, Huff 1B, Schierholtz RF, Ross LF, Crawford SS, Whiteside C, Cain P

    • Sierra Nevada said, on June 3, 2011 at 3:49 pm

      Give up the self righteous bullshit dude. There are assholes on both sides of every issue. I seem remember reading a post where you joked about killing president Obama. Fuck you.

      • Del Mar Dennis said, on June 3, 2011 at 4:02 pm

        Self righteous? I’m wearing a Seattle Slew ball cap, not a mitre. Take your complaints to Benny XVI.

    • mrmrbill said, on June 3, 2011 at 4:00 pm

      Roseboro was looking for a fight. “When Marichal came up to bat, I tried a knockdown from behind the plate, throwing the ball close to his nose when I returned it to the pitcher,” recalled Roseboro. “I expected Marichal to attack me in some way. If he had said anything to me, I had studied karate, and I was ready to annihilate him.”

    • twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 4:04 pm

      I don’t recall voting for the Dominican Dandy to get in the HOF. And while we’re on that subject, I’m sick to death of Willie Fucking Mays. Everytime I turn on Comcast, it’s another salute to that nasty old shit. Enough already.
      OK, I know what I just did and I’m going to hell for it..wait, one more. That was MAYBE the 134th best catch I ‘ve ever seen..

      • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 4:09 pm

        Watch it. Heck, I called him “prickly” once in here, and caught hell for it. Compared to what you just said, that was a compliment…

      • TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 4:11 pm

        I think you said “prick like”

      • TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 4:11 pm

        And yes. You’re both going to hell

      • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 4:12 pm

        Ha. You can read the archive, Ted. It was most definitely “prickly”. If you want to extend the spelling, be my guest…

      • twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 4:34 pm

        Not too bad so far. Locusts and boils.. I had expected worse.

      • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 4:36 pm

        Is it a dry heat or humid? I can’t stand humidity…

      • PawlieKokonuts said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:53 pm

        It wasn’t May’s best catch by far, he and everyone else knows it, Twin F*cking Fan1.

      • PawlieKokonuts said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:57 pm

        caught hell from me, Snarkk. But, as Don Rickles says, “Hey, we kid…”

  37. twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    Are Bochy, McCarver, and others who are calling for a rule change asking that only SF catchers be protected? Of course not. So what if it took an injury to a popular ROY to get needed change implemented ? This “J.T. did it”. “Nate did it”, is irrelevant. I’m not going to argue each incident, but they are all different. Making Sabean’s comments and these past collisions more important than addressing an unsafe and potentially catastrophic practice is just absurd.

  38. SanDawg said, on June 3, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    I hear you guys re Willie Mays. I love Willie, but it feels to me like the Giants are like the dork chasing the big man on campus trying to buy his friendship with a series of gifts–Willie Mays Statue, Willie Mays Gate, Willie Mays Way, Willie Mays Wall. Give me a fucking break. What’s next? I can just hear Miller in his melodic voice saying “take the Willie Mays Escalator to the view level…”
    All that and the guy won’t even where a hat that says “SF” on it. (Unless he’s making an appearance in New York—which I have to give Willie credit for—at least he fucks with NY as well)
    Again I love Willie, the man taught me how to hit a fairway bunker at Pebble Beach and all, but the “Give Willie Some Love” button has been pegged on 11 for about 15 years now. It’s time to turn that sucker down a few notches.

    • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:02 pm

      Sheez, some pretty rough Giants heresy being thrown around here.
      I kinda like it…

    • TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:07 pm

      I’m cutting it some slack right now because all this current genuflecting is being attributed to his milestone 80th birthday. But whether he’s a nasty old shit, as twin so delicately put it, or prickly, as snarkk *really* delicately put it, it’s just good PR to keep the man in the forefront. He is still arguably considered the greatest player ever so they’re going to milk that aura as long as they can.

    • TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:08 pm

      Oh, and SanDawg?…You’re going to hell too

      • SanDawg said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:13 pm

        I was gonna say I only deserved Purgatory, but I must confess I did laugh out loud after reading “Willie Fucking Mays.”

        I am going to hell.

      • Del Mar Dennis said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:15 pm

        My grandpa sent me to hell once…once!

      • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:16 pm

        Dang, down here Oracle already called Lucifer a fuckwad.
        Twice.
        Uh oh. Not good.
        Lucifer’s laughing.
        He just put on a Dodger cap…

      • TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:22 pm

        My Aunt Liz called me a fuckwad once…once!!

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:55 pm

      That reads like: “I love my wife but she deserves to be smacked around a bit.” Silly post.

  39. snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Surprise.
    Giants just issued a sorta retraction/apology to Cousins and the Marlins…

  40. Big flavor said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    They issued an apology to that fuck? Absurd.

  41. mrmrbill said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:21 pm

    Oh Magic Ball, I implore thee,
    Would be that Zito had caught,
    Would today’s thread be the same wrought?

    • TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:23 pm

      Reply hazy. Try again

      • mrmrbill said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:34 pm

        Ok. Jeśli Zito był gracz, który połowu jest dzisiejsza dyskusja napisany ten sam sposób?

      • TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:38 pm

        Question hazy. Try again.

      • mrmrbill said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:41 pm

        Ok. If Zito had been catching that day, would anybody give a fuck? I guess the foot’s on the other hand now, isn’t it, Ted?

      • TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:52 pm

        If you’re trying to help me look foolish, let me tell you right now. I don’t need your help!

  42. SanDawg said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    I really hope Pawlie hasn’t been reading any of this. For me Pawlie is on the Flap Mt. Rushmore and it pains me to think he read any of those Willie Mays posts.
    Pawlie—you’re not lurking out there are you???

    • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:33 pm

      Mt. Flapmore?…

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on June 3, 2011 at 9:02 pm

      SD, Ha! August praise, and it’s early June! We’ve been through all this about Mays. It doesn’t really bother me. The Hirsch bio provides some perspective. I just don’t care; I think Mays has never really been comfortable not playing ball. IF WE’RE GONNA TAKE SOMEBODY OFF A PEDESTAL,DETHRONE JACKIE ROBINSON.

  43. twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    I do not expect writers to be homers but I cannot believe the reaction from our locals. I’d love to ask one of these people to look at that video and tell me that play should be fucking legal..

  44. Unca Chuck said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    Well, they had to say something. Wishing a guy out of the game is pretty harsh. Even if he’s a AAAA guy.

    The important thing (yeah, right) is that they are ‘looking at the issue’ and yadda yadda yadda. In about 10 years, Bud will come up with something.

  45. Big flavor said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    I didn’t have a problem with sabean’s comments. They might have detracted from the real issue though– that we need a rule change. I’m disgusted by the fact that the giants issued an apology to that fuck….

    • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:07 pm

      Bow Tie surely got a call for the Car Salesman’s office. The media all over was blowing up against the Giants and Sabean. They had to make a retraction, even a lame one like this one…

    • willied said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:49 pm

      Agreed. At some point he makes the decision, “I’m going to ram him” and then walks away. I’m sure their feelings on marlins side are “we won the game. Posey’s hurt? Oh well.”
      So fuck them and cousins. Legal? sure, which is why the rules need to be adjusted to protect players from BS like this. Clean? no fucking way.
      And I’m fine with sabes speaking his mind….and hoping the Great Karmatic Equalizer smiles upon his form.

  46. Big flavor said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    And san diggity: I thought of pawlie too. But he should get over it, not everyone shares the same reverence for each player….

  47. snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Mays gets dissed a little, I’m OK with it.
    But, if somebody starts rippin’ on Stretch, I draw the line right there…

    • SanDawg said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:44 pm

      PERISH THE THOUGHT!

      I’m off to the Future Farmers of America Awards Banquet.
      (They serve a mean tri-tip)
      This has been a hell of an enjoyable way to kill a couple of hours in the office after work.
      Catch you fellas later…

  48. Unca Chuck said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Besides, ‘malicious’ is hard to prove, and harder to regulate. Cousins is a young kid trying to stay in the show. He was trying to score. He’s trying to make his mark. Cousins isn’t thinking, boy, Buster’s a little crossed up. He doesn’t quite have the ball. If I hit him now, I can bust him up real good.

    He’s thinking, I’m the lead run and the catcher is blocking the plate.

    • snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:00 pm

      Exactly. People have spent millions trying to prove or disprove “malice” in court, yet we’ve got folks that see it proved in a ballplayer’s mind by virtue of viewing a 5 second video…

      • Nipper said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:01 pm

        So snarky!

    • Nipper said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:02 pm

      If Chuck was behind the plate, I would come in a whole lot harder!

  49. Big flavor said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    He want fucking blocking the plate…. only an imbecile would think that a shallow fly ball to the best arm in the NL is going to be a throw he cam beat. His plan was to turn himself into a human missle with no regard for the plate or the ball: that’s why there needs to be a rule change.

    • TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:55 pm

      Maybe cousins *is* an imbecile

      • Nipper said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:00 pm

        Now Ted. Be nice for once.

    • Nipper said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:00 pm

      NO BF.

  50. Big flavor said, on June 3, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    “wasn’t”

  51. DJLoo said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Uggla is 4 for his last 54…

  52. twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    One would have to be a complete imbecile to believe that such a hit would not result in injury .So what Cousins did actually satisfies the legal definition of malice- unless Cousins has an attorney who can prove that Cousins is an imbecile..

    • TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:23 pm

      The Imbecile Defense. I believe that was the State of New York v. Puddin’head 412 N.Y. 103 (1973),

      • mrmrbill said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:27 pm

        Cousins might’a been super-charged on pre-game Twinkies. Maybe he could try that one.

  53. twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    “Huh? How could Iaknown he’d git hurt?”
    hit

  54. DJLoo said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Before last night’s game Huff was on pace for 14 HRS & 71 RBIs.
    After last night’s game: 23/87.

    • mrmrbill said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:43 pm

      With that kind of acceleration, he’ll have no problem surpassing B*nds single-season rec*rd.

  55. TedSpe said, on June 3, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    B*nds single-season rec*rd? Ouch

  56. snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    You “malicious” finders should have been assigned to analyze the Zapruder footage…

    • zumarust said, on June 3, 2011 at 7:19 pm

      Whistler’s mother was framed.

      • Del Mar Dennis said, on June 3, 2011 at 7:28 pm

        O.J. was practicing his chipping in his frond yard…

  57. snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    I just got through feeding a parmesan and olive oil spaghetti dinnner to one of the Snarkettes and her 10-year old friend.
    To the friend: Who plays left? A: Cody Ross.
    To the Snarkette: Who plays first? A: Aubrey Huff.
    What happened to Buster? (Both). He got his ankle broken.
    Who is the worst pitcher? (Both). Zito!!!
    Amazing….

    • Del Mar Dennis said, on June 3, 2011 at 7:35 pm

      Sounds like a pretty smart Snarkette you have on your hands there. And I’m gonna guess through no help from our public school system. Though I’ve tried my darnedest to help support via the California Lottery…

  58. willied said, on June 3, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    wow…if burriss had stole 2b, he could have been on 3b by now. what held him back?

  59. DJLoo said, on June 3, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    You know it’s Friday night when the Giants dress up like creamsicles…

  60. willied said, on June 3, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    Sanchez took two pitches for him…the chopper might have scored a run. If you are a base stealer, then when you get on, you go in that situation, imo. Burriss’ game is his legs….use em, homeboy.

  61. twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    He does have to learn the pitcher’s move and see if he can get the jump he needs. This is obviously a pirtcher no one knows much about

  62. DJLoo said, on June 3, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    I feel an XBH for Eli…

    • willied said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:01 pm

      there’s a contest waiting to happen….how many ABs to the next one for the Prez?
      Doesn’t Sanchez (jonathan) have more than he does?

  63. snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Cain’s glove looks like he rubbed it with yellow curry…

    • SanDawg said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:29 pm

      …which brings us back to me downstairs for 45 minutes at Lefty O’Doul’s

  64. Del Mar Dennis said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    Clown me!

  65. Bozo said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    Rodeo Clown!

  66. Kevin said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    Nate can fly once he gets going

  67. Del Mar Dennis said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Uncle Jesse me!

  68. Bozo said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Crawfish.

  69. DJLoo said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Jesse Christ!

  70. snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    I’m likin’ this Crawford kid….

  71. Kevin said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    Here is your boy Dennis, No Whitey

  72. snarkk said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Loo, WTF was that XBH by El Presidente?…

    • DJLoo said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:35 pm

      Once a year I try to be positive…

  73. twinfan1 said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    I don’t think Brandon will be sleeping alone tonight

    • Del Mar Dennis said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:42 pm

      I think the blonde in the white sweater next to his mom is either his fiancé, wife or sister.
      If she’s not in the exacta, I’m gonna bet $2 on his sister to show up in my bed.

  74. DJLoo said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    As feeble as it gets…

  75. Kevin said, on June 3, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Crawford starting to look like the Torres of 2011


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