Sign Sizemore? How About T.O.?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 27, 2011

I don’t know why I am trying to talk myself into believing that signing Grady Sizemore would be a good idea. But our outfield is so bad that it seems like a risk worth taking. And you’d probably have to go 2 years with him. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think his most recent surgery was related to the micro surgery he had 2 years ago. It always tough to predict how someone bounces back from micro surgery, it’s not like Tommy John or repairing and ACL. But it can easily take longer than a full year and if that ‘s the case then maybe Sizemore is ready for that bounce back year everyone thought he might have had last year. He’s only 29, this guy was a legit 40/40 threat just a couple of years ago. Run him through a complete physical, if he passes that I would be fine with signing him to play LF for us……

I’m assuming Bruce Jenkins was kidding when he said the Niners shouldn’t sign T.O. I mean, he hasn’t actual heard this is being discussed, has he? T.O needs money, that is the only reason he’s looking for a job right now and he knows he can’t afford to wait till next season as he turns 39 in December of next season. This would be “Chris Webber” all over again at least in terms of failed expectations. You can’t tell me that we don’t have a healthy receiver on the practice squad who isn’t better than TO at this point in his career. Not even Harbaugh has the hubris to pull this off with a straight face……..

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willieD said, on October 27, 2011 at 7:40 am

Wow, gotta laugh about seeing Grady Sizemore topic. Couple years ago I got some derision for suggesting SF look into acquiring him. At that time, Tribe were going nowhere and losing FA guys because they wouldn’t pay them like CC, and Sizemore was healthy and coming off good year (tho I doubt he was ever 40/40 potential). A part of my point was that AL bottom feeders (Tribe, O)s, Royals) were good potential trade partners for SF, because they might dump off a young good hitter in the OF for pitching/ prospects, because they weren’t about to offer big contracts to their better players.
Fast forward to now…Tribe are a contender, Sizemore has had multiple injuries and unproductive years, and SF has pitching depth issues at mlb starter level and does not appear to have an abundance of prospects from which to deal. If the Tribe are that willing to dump him now, what does that tell you?
St said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:17 am

Tells me they don’t think he’s worth 8.5 m (his option) or they have budget issues.
Three yrs ago he was a bargain coming off a huge yr. Don’t recall any trade Grady rumors.
St said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:20 am

There might be a handful of teams bidding on him. He could get 2 yrs.
G’ will like the fact that they won’t lose a draft pick.
Bozo said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:24 am

Willie, I think it has to do with an 8.5 mil club option or a half mil buyout. Almost 9 mil is a bit to pay for a gamble.

If a make good contract by the Giants works, I’d take a shot at him. With the knee surgeries, I’m not sure if he would/could be an everyday CFer so I’d imagine he’d be looking more at AL clubs to do some DHing.
twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:55 am

“Make good” is the key here, and you don’t give a make good player 2 years. He gets a minor league contract with a chance to make the team if you anything at all with him..if someone can do better, good for them..
big flavor said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:41 am

I think the Tribe is just tired of all the *false starts* and time missed with injuries. We could give him a 2year/8 mil deal and it’s no biggie if it doesn’t work out. They can’t really afford to pick him up for 9 mil, 1 year.
I could see Seattle signing him. He’s from that area and they need a LF……
He almost went 40/40 a few years ago. It was like 33/35, something like that– I don’t feel like looking it up…..
Nipper said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:56 am

Niners will never sign TO. He’s too old and too me me and not enough “team” in him. And Sizemore is damaged goods. Good luck with that.
- TedSpe said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:58 am
  
  Yeah, nip. There’s no “me” in “team”.
  Oh wait. There is.
- twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2011 at 10:13 am
  
  So you don’t think the Niners will sign Sizemore, either?
twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2011 at 10:01 am

Far more likely, the OF is Huff/Crisp/Schierholtz…
big flavor said, on October 27, 2011 at 10:17 am

agreed. And I’d be fine with that….
twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2011 at 10:26 am

Well, I think we’d hope that Crisp’s OBP ( 2 points higher than Vungo’s) was an abberration and not the beginning of a downward trend..
unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 10:34 am

One with an option for Grady? Sure. Only if he wants to come here though. Something most hitters shy away from.

Where’s Beltran? Oh, yeah. Boston.

TO is still decent, but he’s a month away from being football ready. He got gassed running 15 routes in his undies. Put a uni and pads on him, and he’ll pass out half way through the 2nd quarter.

He aint ready for prime time until week 12. Plenty of time for a desperate team to sign him. Shit, the Browns may go after him depending on how their season winds up. Tenn still looks to be the front-runner though. Or the Raiders.
Giant Head said, on October 27, 2011 at 11:13 am

No way do I offer him $8 mill for two years…$1 million with incentives that could get him to 2 mill and if he hits his incentives, maybe guarantee a second year.
twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2011 at 11:32 am

You don’t give Sizemore ANYTHING other than plane fare and chicken wings unless he makes the team
- Nipper said, on October 27, 2011 at 12:33 pm
  
  Peanuts for chicken wings.
  - unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 1:13 pm
    
    Water for chocolate . . .
  - TedSpe said, on October 27, 2011 at 2:22 pm
    
    Tit for tat
twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2011 at 2:21 pm

Sizemore shouldn’t even want two years- if he shows he’s back, he’ll make a kazillion in free agency after 2012.
TedSpe said, on October 27, 2011 at 2:34 pm

Interesting take from the Dodgers attorneys

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/story/_/id/7155602/los-angeles-dodgers-lawsuit-bryan-stow-shares-blame-beating
- unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 3:25 pm
  
  McCourt is really taking the high road on his way out of LA.
  
  What a tool.
blade3colorado said, on October 27, 2011 at 3:30 pm

Grady Sizemore? T.O.? I just read an article about Sly Stone living in his van on Crenshaw street in Watts . . . Maybe he has room in his van for these guys too.
- unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 3:41 pm
  
  Hey, it’s a family affair . . .
- TedSpe said, on October 27, 2011 at 4:01 pm
  
  Too late. Sly just checked himself into rehab
blade3colorado said, on October 27, 2011 at 3:39 pm

Interesting take from Tim Dierkes of MLB Rumors regarding the Giants off season outlook:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/10/offseason-outlook-san-francisco-giants.html?utm_source=bleacherreport.com&utm_medium=referral
Big flavor said, on October 27, 2011 at 6:20 pm

Horrible decision to leave a gimpy Napoli at 2nd . He won’t finish the gm anyway once that ankle swells up.
snarkk said, on October 27, 2011 at 7:38 pm

Looks like this game is going to be won by the one that chokes the least…
snarkk said, on October 27, 2011 at 7:54 pm

Texas ahead 6-4 now. Regardless of who wins this series, it validates the Giants as the superior team last year. Cards are having big time trouble keeping Texas in check. Giants went through the Rangers like crap through a goose 4 games to 1 last year. It almost makes me cry to look at this series. Giants starters would have given the Texas hitters another beat down — it would be a question only of how much scoring the Giants offense could provide to win. If Franchez and Buster were playing, I’d say Giants in no more than 6, with the home field advantage. Kudos to Texas tho, getting in 2 years running is a real feat…
unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:10 pm

Blah, blah, blah. Last AB for Pooholes in StL. Waah! Another series that isn’t going the way these fucking announcers want it to.
stixwiz said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:10 pm

At 7-4 Texas now may have the edge they need to win this. I’m good with that. Don’t like Texas as a state and despise their former Bushleague ‘owner’ , but the Cardinals simply do not deserve to win the W.S. this year. They have been World Champs sufficiently often, including three of them during the player-depleted WWII years when the game went on mostly for the sake of national morale.

Four lousy games separated the Cards and the Giants this year. Without the injuries and without guys like Rowand and Tejada hanging around for too many starts, SF would have easily taken the W.C. and probably the West. Oh well, some good general managing strategy and they may be a team to reckon with next season. Excellent pitching is a virtual guarantee. It would be nice if they can hang onto both Affeldt and Lopez. Essential they keep at least one of the pair of lefty relievers. Posey and Franchez coming back means the offense will not be league worst again.
- zumie said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:23 pm
  
  Austin, Texas is a nice bright spot of culture and enlightenment in the state of Texas. There are some likable aspects of Texas if one looks close enough.
- twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:36 pm
  
  They’re a team to be reckoned with next season already.
SanDawg said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:23 pm

Is anyone else having Game 6 flashbacks right now???
Even with winning it all last year, I’m still occasionally haunted by some 2002 demons.
unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:26 pm

Retardo play there.Moliina was 20′ away from 2nd.
unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:37 pm

Nolan Ryan looks like he finally took that shit.
- unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:46 pm
  
  Uh oh. He’s backing up again.
zumie said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:46 pm

The Texas closer has the “torture act” down.
zumie said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:47 pm

And Nolan Ryan looks re-constipated.
zumie said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:50 pm

NICE curveball.
unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:51 pm

Wow. Feliz with the money pitch. A spank=me slider. I’m just glad Frank Zappa is there.
- zumie said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:52 pm
  
  NICE slider, I meant. (grin)
unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:52 pm

Feliz is a lefty Romo with that loopy slider he throws.
SanDawg said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:53 pm

Freese = Scott Spiezio
- zumie said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:56 pm
  
  Yeah, if Texas finds a way to lose this World Series, that’s some serious angst going on with the Texas fans.
unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:53 pm

Oh dear, Thought he had it.
unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:55 pm

What a shitty play. Cruz coasted and let it go over his head. The defense has been awful
- zumie said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:57 pm
  
  He was not exactly gazelle-like.
twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2011 at 8:57 pm

Cruz is awful. 1,2,3…Nate woulda had it.
unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:00 pm

Hah!!!
PawlieKokonuts said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:01 pm

Any Giants outfielder would’ve caught that.
- unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:02 pm
  
  Except Huff.
  - unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:02 pm
    
    In RF that is.
  - PawlieKokonuts said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:04 pm
    
    Um, okay. I forgot the April Adventure.
PawlieKokonuts said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:02 pm

Well, Josh the Smosh! Fun game!
twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:02 pm

“Shit. I said KAAT, not Motte..”
- unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:03 pm
  
  LQTM . . .
snarkk said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:05 pm

What is this, PCL baseball?…
zumie said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:11 pm

Baseball, thy name is torture.
stixwiz said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:11 pm

One way or another, it still has been one helluvan exciting game. Those are a pair of hard-hitting teams. Pitching? Good here and there, but mostly not. Defense? Uhh.
unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:19 pm

Poor Nolan Ryan.
unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:19 pm

Really. Tim?
unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:24 pm

Unreal game.
unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:26 pm

2 times StL’s been down to their last strike.
snarkk said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:26 pm

Nolan Ryan is probably thinking “give ME the damn ball”…
twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:26 pm

Incredible, terrible, exciting, ridiculous, insane game…
twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:30 pm

Will someone tell those two idiots that Texas was playing deep to cut off the WINNING run…
PawlieKokonuts said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:31 pm

Joins the list of classic WS games.
PawlieKokonuts said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:36 pm

Some inexplicable and weird managing in this Series.
PawlieKokonuts said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:43 pm

Epic.
unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:45 pm

Forget 5 outs. Texas may end up with ONE strike.
twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:45 pm

There were so many strange happenings, even second guessing is tough. But not sending his best reliever(Feliz) back out after regaining the lead was not Washington’s best move. IMO.
- PawlieKokonuts said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:49 pm
  
  Just as much or more so, not sticking w/ Feldman. Still and all, although I’m mildly rooting for Texas, surely a game for history, making this Series more exciting and good for baseball.
  
  Huge momentum shift to Saint Louis. I don’t have stats, but I am positive the odds shift to St. Louis in this situation and history bears it out.
unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:46 pm

StL’s got Carpenter tomorrow?

Uh oh.
twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:49 pm

On three days rest if he goes. Rarely a good idea.
snarkk said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:49 pm

If 2002 is any indicator, the odds of TX winning tomorrow after this are slim. A game with horrible quality of play will be one of the most memorable WS tilts for a long time….
- Nipper said, on October 27, 2011 at 10:23 pm
  
  Snarkk predicts!
PawlieKokonuts said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:52 pm

What a relief to have no true emotional investment. I really counted St. Louis out, but….tip of the cap to ’em. And I never thought Freeses’s ball was gone. Until. It. Was.
unca_chuck said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:53 pm

Yeah, it’ll be hard, but both these teams can score a ton. I wouldn’t put it past Texas. I hope so anyhway.
- Nipper said, on October 27, 2011 at 10:24 pm
  
  BLEEP!
twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2011 at 9:56 pm

Can’t you fucking people figure out a damn telephone? I clearly said Mfhwrtrwer in 7…
Nipper said, on October 27, 2011 at 10:23 pm

ARF!
snarkk said, on October 28, 2011 at 12:08 am

Watching the replays of that triple to right in the bottom of 9th. Cruz definitely should have had that, well, check that, a good RFer would have had that. Terrible approach to the play, looked like he was afraid to hit the wall, consequently jumped too soon and not even close to gloving it….
snarkk said, on October 28, 2011 at 1:51 am

Pirates hired away SF’s strength and conditioning coach Ben Potenziano to be the Bucs asst trainer. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11298/1184722-63-0.stm Was he let go or just got a better position? Anybody got any info? Does this have anything to do with Huff, Posey’s rehab, Panda, etc?…