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Bochy Tells Buster: Don’t Block the Plate

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on February 20, 2012

Nothing good will come from this *directive* from Bochy. For starters, this is info the opposing team now has that they can use to their advantage. Why tell them this?

And it’s not going to protect Posey at all. Posey wasn’t blocking the plate when Cousins came at him. Take a look:

From the moment Cousins took off from 3rd, his plan was to run Posey over, where ever he was. He went out of his path to the plate and took off in mid air in a altered direction to aim at Buster. There is indisputable video evidence that supports this…..

No one seems to ever talk about this, but that flyball was hit to short right center field. Nate caught it. Everyone in the league knew then about how good his arm was. Only an idiot would think he would beat that throw home. His plan never wavered from the moment he took off: level Posey and hope to knock the ball free.

So Bochy telling the world that he’s going to have Buster catch like a pussy and just swipe tag all the plays at the plate doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. It’s giving the other teams info they shouldn’t have and it won’t protect him. If the team is THAT afraid of him getting hurt again then find him a new position………

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  1. Bozo said, on February 20, 2012 at 7:30 am

    What Bochy neglected to say is that Zito would be used to block the plate in those situations (I think he called it the win, win strategy).

    • Alleykat said, on February 20, 2012 at 7:56 am

      Now that was funny Bozo.I was gonna use Eli.Yeah Boch cannot expect Posey to do that when it’s part of the game forever.Chili Davis use to go in like a human missle at the plate to Mike Scoscia many times it just the way the game is played.Nothing will change that.

  2. Nipper said, on February 20, 2012 at 8:58 am

    Let Buster DH……oh I forgot pitchers still have to take their AB’s. NL is hopeless. Let the catchers get hurt because it’s part of the game. Nice.

    • Bozo said, on February 20, 2012 at 9:22 am

      DH or not, you still need someone to catch, Nipper. With more inter-league games this year (Bah), you’ll get to see more of the useless DH position being used in the NL.

  3. twinfan1 said, on February 20, 2012 at 9:06 am

    If I recall, several managers have told their catchers not to block the plate. I know that Suzuki was told not to. But it’s spring time, time for bogus reasons to diss the manager.The catcher shouldn’t be blocking the plate anyway.

  4. Flavor said, on February 20, 2012 at 9:18 am

    I’ve never heard of a manager publicly telling his catcher to not block the plate but I don’t pay that much attention to what *other* managers say. Maybe that’s true.
    And I agree, they shouldn’t be blocking the plate. Just because it’s always been done doesn’t mean it’s right. The NFL has tried addressing the concussion issue with several new rules. Those rules probably need to be adjusted, but they’re on the right track. Baseball? God forbid they change the rule of a runner being able to turn himself into a human missile and try to dismember the catcher upon impact with no attempt to touch the plate whatsoever.
    Now that Idiot Torre is gone, maybe Bochy can get the league to listen to common sense.
    Again, failing to block the plate would not have saved Buster that night. He wasn’t blocking the plate.

  5. EdGdsnInExile said, on February 20, 2012 at 9:25 am

    After reading Crasnick’s ESPN story on Buster, I went back to Schulman’s Splash post for the exact quote. Bochy says “I don’t want him blocking the plate right now”, which I take to mean ‘Spring training.’ He then goes on to say they will work with him about not blocking the plate, so maybe it is for the season as well. It just wasn’t clear to me whether they mean they are prohibiting him from blocking now so he can continue rehab, or whether its a permanent directive. I guess the Giants haven’t disputed the interpretation that its for the season though…

  6. EdGdsnInExile said, on February 20, 2012 at 9:29 am

    For the life of me, I can’t see why the rule isn’t that the runner’s intent and outcome has to be the plate. It’s the case for sliding into the base-bags. You can’t target the shortstop on the lip of the grass; you have to be able to reach the bag. Flav’s pic above makes Cousins’ intent perfectly clear; a better base-runner would’ve gone for the slide away reaching with the left arm. The rule should’ve promoted that.

    • Flavor said, on February 20, 2012 at 9:34 am

      Ed—exactly. Read below, my proposed rule change cover that.

  7. Flavor said, on February 20, 2012 at 9:33 am

    my proposed rule change, as I’ve posted a few times is simple with some slight subjectivity to it: Catchers can’t block the plate. Runners have to make a primary attempt to touch home plate. This would deal with the human missiles who obviously can’t touch the plate if they’re airborne. And there would be no reason to run over a catcher administering a swipe tag because you’d almost have to go out of the baseline to do so. Plus, you aren’t trying to touch the plate if you’re targeting a catcher positioned on either side of the plate. If catcher blocks the plate in the judgement of the umpire, the run scores automatically. If the runner, in the judgement of the umpire, fails to make tagging home plate his main priority, he’s automatically out. 3rd base coach and/or instant replay could help make this call.

  8. twinfan1 said, on February 20, 2012 at 10:08 am

    They will do as always- there will be a rule change when a player is killed or rendered a paraplegic…

  9. Birdog said, on February 20, 2012 at 11:29 am

    Fuck Scott Cousins!

    • Big flavor said, on February 20, 2012 at 12:58 pm

      Yes!

  10. Alleykat said, on February 20, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    Even if Bochy demands no blocking the plate and tells Posey to swipe tag only, he could still get hurt,possible broken wrist,arm,shoulder seperation nothing is guaranteed.The first hold your breath play and we’ll see more of him at 1B.Book it!

  11. eddacker said, on February 20, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    What about all those great plays made when blocking the plate. A foot or knee planted on the third base side stops the player reaching home for the split second it takes the catcher to make the tag? I’ve seen several of those, we all have; the runner would have reached the plate before the tag but couldn’t.

    Of course, I agree that Cousins intentional play should be outlawed.

  12. Big flavor said, on February 20, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    Today’s player is bigger, stronger and faster than the days of Pete Rose barreling down the line. It’s unsafe and pointless. Why can’t a runner barrel into the first baseman to take him out? Or third?

    • twinfan1 said, on February 20, 2012 at 5:26 pm

      It’s seen as a sign of courage for the catcher to take on the runner in a collision such as the one that injured Posey
      (Scioscia actually said that). As I’ve pointed out, it was also seen as a mark of courage for the 19th century catcher to finish the game after being knocked unconcious. Many of these men spent their final years in insane asylums.
      http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/sports/baseball/22catchers.html

  13. twinfan1 said, on February 20, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    Bochy is an an ex-catcher and he knows what he’s doing.

  14. twinfan1 said, on February 20, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    Wilson confirms what I posted from day one last year- that he was never right, he also says he’ll be ready for opening day this year.

  15. twinfan1 said, on February 20, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    Not surprisingly my plea was rejected, she will always be my “friend”. To be fair she had a lot to give up to be with a man with now limited resources and an uncertain (to say the least) future. She is is a physician and I don’t imagine she relishes a patient waiting at home 😉 I would have to move back to Santa Rosa…
    I will keep trying.

    • Alleykat said, on February 20, 2012 at 6:11 pm

      Give her alittle more time Twin.People change daily.She could too.Good luck with her going forward.

  16. snarkk said, on February 20, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    Oswalt is still available.
    When Zito craters, we’ll wish we had him…

  17. twinfan1 said, on February 20, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    Totally agree with that.

  18. paulinasia said, on February 20, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    Agree about Oswalt, I think I posted about getting him way back in the Fall. Lincecum, Bum, Cain, Oswalt, Voggie… and especially if Voggie’s back gives him problems all year.

    Michael, you did indeed try, you never know until you try. Where’s Ferret!!?

  19. St said, on February 20, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    Reportedly avail now for about 1 yr 8 m. But reportedly wants to pitch near his home in Miss.

  20. Alleykat said, on February 20, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Hell if we can have Ramon Ortiz in camp at 39, might as well bring in Pedro Martinez for a shot at #5 at 40.Though I would rather have Oswalt.Pedro would still be better then Zits even a year removed from the game.

  21. St said, on February 20, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    Who wouldn’t want Oswalt, er, the healthy Oswalt, but obviously there are big concerns about his back. Even at 8m, teams are balking. And 8 million is for his preference of Stl or Texas.

  22. zumie said, on February 20, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    I didn’t see the game, but the Knicks lost as Carmelo returned. The Knicks will have to sort out the team chemistry issues, which is to be expected.

    • Macdog said, on February 20, 2012 at 8:23 pm

      Linsanity started when Lin embarrassed Deron Williams two weeks ago, no doubt Williams had this one circled and lit it up for 38 tonight.

  23. Flavor said, on February 20, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    from Baggs today– what weird connections……
    “In case you hadn’t heard, Aaron Rowand, now a non-roster player in Florida Marlins camp, was able to get his familiar No. 33. The player who gave it up was none other than Scott Cousins, the baserunner who injured Buster Posey with his spearing collision at the plate May 25.

    Cousins decided to switch to No .6, saying it was in homage to J.T. Snow – his favorite Giant while growing up a huge fan of the team.

    Here’s the weirdest part: It was Snow, remember, who once famously collided with a catcher in Florida – Pudge Rodriguez – in a failed effort to knock the ball out of his glove. The play was the final out as the Marlins clinched the NL Division series in 2003.”

  24. Flavor said, on February 20, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    uh oh, we have a second “chink in the armor”. Oops. Can we just start calling them “losses” and avoid all the mucky-muck?
    Udoh starts in place of Biedrens tonight and he’s 5 for 5 in the first quarter (field goals). I forgot what it looked like to see a Center score.

  25. paulinasia said, on February 20, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    Yes, please. As discussed beyond all reasonable limits of discussion yesterday, “chink in the armor” relates to a flaw in an otherwise solid collection of attributes. (Ex., Posey is the perfect athlete, except for his speed on the basepaths, that’s his only “chink in the armor”, etc.). A loss really would only be related to this idiom if it was, say, the only loss of an otherwise perfect season. Now, go to bed, silly little idiom, enough of your nonsense…

  26. Flavor said, on February 20, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    I think many would agree that today’s BB has a few too many chinks in her ass. Boo yah. And as a qualifier…….
    chink/CHiNGk/
    Noun:
    A narrow opening or crack, typically one that admits light.

    Synonyms:
    noun. crevice – crack – fissure – cranny – rift – cleft – split

    • Macdog said, on February 20, 2012 at 8:53 pm

      Looks like your take on the Lin headline was correct after all. I would’ve bet anything the ESPN headline writer knew exactly what he was doing, but . . .

      http://tinyurl.com/83jaf5x

  27. snarkk said, on February 20, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    Pavlovic over at the Merc reports Hembree was throwing darts in the pen sessions today. Really looking forward to seeing how he does against live hitting situations. Wilson was reported to say he was throwing with no pain….


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