Bees Swarm and My First Draft Results

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on March 5, 2012

The early returns on Alex Pavlovic are in: he’s a keeper. This guy works just as hard as Baggs and he’s coming up with some good stuff along the way. I’m assuming you’re all reading his blog posts. Yesterday’s game got delayed by a swarm of bees. Bees are a trip. I get a swarm of bees at my house every single year in the Spring time. They show up, buzz around the backyard for about an hour and then hit the road. No idea what they’re doing…….

OK, I realize this next topic will be of interest to few but the few it will interest should find it interesting. Huh? I am going to carry 5 fantasy teams this year (one more than usual) and yesterday I had my first draft. The benefit to drafting this early is that you don’t get swayed by ST performances and you can swoop in and pick guys up before the *buzz* gets going on them. Sorry, had to get one bee-joke in, everyone else is doing it. Anyway, yesterday was a 12 team league, 30 round draft. That’s likely the same one we’re doing for The Flap League, by the way……

Below is a list of my picks in round 1-30. You have to start 2 catchers.If you don’t want to punt the saves category you need 2 closers, though 3 is preferable. Drafts are unpredictable, you can have a plan that implodes at any point based on what the other owners are doing. I am mostly happy with my team though my *closer plan* fell apart quick……

I won’t go over every round, but here are some of my comments for each player taken.

I think Upton is going to have a monster year. The draft is KDS and I chose #8 specifically to get him. I didn’t want to have to take Tex in Rd 2 but other players I liked didn’t fall to me so I snagged him there (I probably could have got him in Rd 3). People are put off by his BA but it’s going to rebound big time this year to around .275. I’m not going to get into *Fanalytics* so you’re just going to have to trust me on his batting average prediction. Plus, he’ll hit 35 bombs with 100 runs scored and 100+ rbi’s. If he hits .275 that 2 pick will be absolutely justified……

TImmy was still around at pick 31 (my round 3 spot) and I had to take him. I wasn’t planning on taking a pitcher before round 7 but Timmy in round 3 was just too much value to pass on.5 pitchers went before him.

Pablo was going in round 6 in most mock drafts but I snagged him with my next pick in round 4.

I took Mauer in 6 because I don’t like worrying about catchers in the later rounds and I’m betting on him being healthy this year. He was going in round 2/3 last year. Buster was still available when I made this pick so that should tell you my concerns about him this year. I took Doumit as my 2nd catcher because he’s going to get a lot of at bats for Minn this year (DH, C, 1st and maybe even some outfield but he’s still qualifies as a catcher for the entire year) and he won’t drag my BA down as most 2nd catchers do……

Darvish is going around round 10-11 in most mock drafts. I took him in 7 and watched the draft room message board light up with cat-calls of what an idiot I am. I think he’s going to have a huge year and this is the same deal as a Euro horse who nobody knows what to do with. They’ve heard he’s good but the handicappers don’t know how good. Spring training is the horse racing equivalent to *workouts* and I think by the end of ST Darvish will be going at least 3 or 4 rounds higher than he’s going now. We’ll see….

I took Corey Hart in round 9 as a value pick. I had been checking the updated injury lines every 10 minutes and of course, a few minutes after I picked him, the news about his knee surgery broke. Bad luck.

I had planned to take either Madson/Hanrahan or Bell in round 10 but all 3 went just before my spot so I went with Anibel and I’m fine with that, he is going to have a monster year. But that meant I had to pick up Putz in 12 and that is a huge risk to count on him as my #1 closer. (Bee Wheezy went in 11, by the way). That’s the reason I went with Reed, Marshall, Koji and Cashner in later rounds, I need at least 2 of those guys to assume the closer roles this year (I’m hoping the A’s trade for Koji thus giving him that value).

Despite his Valley Fever, I took Davis in 14 because I think he’s going to hit 30+ bombs this year. I’m betting he beats the fever. If it wasn’t for the fever I was prepared to take him in 11 or so. 14 is where he’s been going in most mock drafts….

I took Pagan in 19 because he’s been going in 14 and that was just too much value. Plus, I do think he’s going to have a good year and he’s a Giant so I snagged him in 19.

I took Marshall in 24 because I had WANTED to take Madson in 10 but couldn’t get him. Marshall’s a stud, if Madson falters (and news broke last night that he’s dealing with an elbow *thing*) he’s the guy and with an opportunity, I think he’ll be money and either way, he’s got a fantastic skill set to own.

Speaking of value and *Giants* I took Torres in 25 and Ross in 27 because either or both could have nice bounce back years and in those rounds they were worth the risk. Plus, in theory, I could now field an outfield that includes Pagan, Torres and Ross (you have to start 5 each week) though that would be unexpected. In the rounds I picked them I just need one of those guys to work out……..

Porcello in 28 was a steal.

Cashner should take over the closer spot in San Diego after Street’s first injury of the year. Plus, dude throws 100 and that’s just frickin awesome to have chillin’ on your bench…….

So there ya go. I’m sure you’ll find something else to talk about today and that’s fine, I just did this thread for the fantasy baseball guys……..

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St said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:48 am

No Bumgarner?
- Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:59 am
  
  I could have taken him in 7 and I almost did. But after I got Timmy unexpectedly and I really wanted Darvish, my desire to draft Bum lessened….
  - St said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:34 am
    
    So Bum went in rd 7?
  - Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:40 am
    
    no, he went in 8. Great value there. I will very likely draft him in 6 in my upcoming drafts
Kevin said, on March 5, 2012 at 9:00 am

Where do I find Alex Pavlovic? SfGate? Comcast sports net?
- Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 9:04 am
  
  he took over Baggs blog at the Merc
Kevin said, on March 5, 2012 at 9:08 am

cool, thanks. Oh and the bee thing, when I drove a bus for a living, I drove through a swarm on the freeway. had a manuel crank window that I was rushing to wind up. luckily I did get it closed. But I could barely see out my windshield. Had to find a gas station ASAP.
twinfan1 said, on March 5, 2012 at 9:20 am

Pavlovic and Carl Steward both did a fine job when Baggs was gone. Steward seems to have his own column now
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_20091053
Also on Twitter:
http://twitter.com/#!/stewardsfolly
Alleykat said, on March 5, 2012 at 9:52 am

Ground crew went with the flow…Cranking up Beatles “Let it Be”
twinfan1 said, on March 5, 2012 at 10:08 am

I rarely post on the Splash anymore. Popped by, noticed that a user asked how I was doing. The post got deleted. What a fucking joke.
- Chico said, on March 5, 2012 at 12:09 pm
  
  That place is all fucked up.
Micah said, on March 5, 2012 at 10:12 am

Looks like you did well for youreslef in the draft. The auto draft just seems so much easier.
- unca_chuck said, on March 5, 2012 at 10:42 am
  
  I’ll elt you know how it turns out, Micah . . .
Bozo said, on March 5, 2012 at 10:52 am

I thought they were keeping Bee Wheezy out of games. So they played their B team in the A game?

Good over all picks Flav. In a 12 team draft, I would have thought your rounds 2,4 and 5 would have each been gone a round earlier.
- TedSpe said, on March 5, 2012 at 11:35 am
  
  Oh, bee-have
Chico said, on March 5, 2012 at 12:08 pm

When I lived in Berkeley, our neighbor raised honey bees in her back yard. We lived in a 4 unit complex, and the guy across the way from us was allergic to bee stings. We would BBQ and drink beers on the back deck, while watching what seemed like millions of bees fly in and out of the boxes where the honey was being made and where the bees slept? (Not sure if they sleep) The guy was concerned about it when he first noticed the bees, so he decided to go and talk to her about it. Apparently, honey bees have certain flight patterns that they stick to.

In my 11 years of living there, never once did I see a bee enter our back yard, but there were thousands just 15 feet away, on the other side of the fence buzzing around and collecting pollen and doing what bees do. Fascinating little creatures.
- Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 12:31 pm
  
  great post. And that’s exactly what the swarm does at my house.
- snarkk said, on March 5, 2012 at 12:43 pm
  
  I heard on radio yesterday a bee guy explain that the swarm was likely a move of a hive. For whatever reason, the queen has to or decides to leave the old hive, and when she does, the whole hive escorts her for protection until she finds the place for a new hive. He said that likely today, if the bees were still there, the Dbacks would get a bee keeper to go to the stadium with an empty hive, grab the queen and her drones or whatever and put them in the new hive. Then the rest would follow into the new hive, and after a coupla hours, the beekeeper could take the hive away with all or most of the bees in it…
  - Alleykat said, on March 5, 2012 at 12:58 pm
    
    Snarkk….The fastest way to get rid of the bee’s would have been if they played The Bee Gees on the loudspeakers.
  - PawlieKokonuts said, on March 5, 2012 at 6:08 pm
    
    again, more metaphor fodder……and another metaphor for Magnus: Imagine if you were a politician and everyone took your quote out of context: “And that’s exactly what the swarm does at my house.” I like swarm as a verb synonym for “party,’ Let’s swarm, dudes and dudettes.
    
    I need a break. I’m as hypercaffeinated as a Freddy Sanchez at bat. From writing. Not from coffee.
- PawlieKokonuts said, on March 5, 2012 at 6:04 pm
  
  fascinating…I’m reaching for a metaphor, but can’t find one that sticks, honey
  - Chico said, on March 5, 2012 at 6:16 pm
    
    Haha, well played.
Alleykat said, on March 5, 2012 at 12:51 pm

Real bummer on the death of Ronnie Montrose.Atleast I had the pleasure of seeing him live at Winterland,Cow Palace, with Sammy Hagar and even a smaller club Keystone in Palo Alto when his band was Gamma.
RIP Ronnie a fantastic guitar player.You will be missed.
- TedSpe said, on March 5, 2012 at 1:04 pm
  
  I was too young to see him when he was with Hagar but I *did* get to see him with Gamma. Dude shredded. I *still* play Rock Candy, Space Station #9 and Bad Motor Scooter in my car
unca_chuck said, on March 5, 2012 at 1:11 pm

Ronnie Montrose played in Orangevale to start his last tour. A friend of mine sang for him for a bunch of shows. It was excellent. When they played Space Age Sacrifice, the place went nuts. My ears were ringing for 3 days. Yeah, I just missed the Hagar days, but I saw him pre-Gamma and with Gamma at the Greek in Berkeley. Yeah, I was at the Keystone show as well. That place was too cool. Saw Neil Young there (he used to do a warm-up gig there before his big tours) and I saw him there before Rust Never Sleeps.

The 1st Montrose album (Rock Candy, Space Station #5, Bad Motor Scooter) pretty much laid the blueprint for hard rock for the next 15 years.

Shame. The guy was one of the true guitar greats.
twinfan1 said, on March 5, 2012 at 2:28 pm

There was a famous bee incident in a Pittsburgh/Cinncinatti game some years back- held up the game until a professional bee keeper was summoned.He doused the swarm with sugar and water and then collected them with his bare hands into a box and left to a standing ovation…
zumie said, on March 5, 2012 at 2:34 pm

I probably told this story on the Flap already…..I was at a minor league game a few years ago….and one inning a whole gigantic swarm of…..things flew in. They were winged ants of some kind. They completely landed on everybody and everything. The game tried to continue as best it could. People in the stands were flippin’ out, and trying to hide their beverages. And then….an inning later, the gigantic swarm moved on. All gone. We’re all like….what was THAT all about?
snarkk said, on March 5, 2012 at 3:34 pm

Appropos of nothing. But, on a slow sports day, if you like Sean Connery, this is his AFI award acceptance speech in 2006. It takes a few minutes to watch, but it’s the greatest acceptance speech, hell, one of the best short speeches of any kind, I’ve ever heard. A bit bawdy, a bit self deprecating, a bit sentimental, and shows a bit of his pain-in-the-ass side. Not one false move. Doesn’t hurt that he’s one of my favorite actors. I hope I look 10% as good as he does at 76, if I even get there. http://tinyurl.com/7atl4wr
- Kevin said, on March 5, 2012 at 3:52 pm
  
  The ONE and ONLY James Bond!! Daniel Craig is doing a good job though. but still Sean was the best. Same way if some one tried to make another Dirty Harry movie, no one can beat Clint!!
  - twinfan1 said, on March 5, 2012 at 4:28 pm
    
    Well, he played it totally differently but Roger Moore was also good, IMO. But as an actor, Connery is far superior. “The Anderson Tapes” has been a favorite of mine…
  - TedSpe said, on March 5, 2012 at 4:33 pm
    
    The Man Who Would Be King. Connery *and* Caine. Great team
  - twinfan1 said, on March 5, 2012 at 5:08 pm
    
    And both were originally dismissed as lightweights…
  - unca_chuck said, on March 5, 2012 at 5:46 pm
    
    Bought The Italian Job in the $3.99 bin at Fry’s. Great Michael Caine movie . . . As is the Ipcress File. Dug those English spy movies back in the day.
    
    Shit, haven’t seen the Man Who Would be King in years. . . .
  - PawlieKokonuts said, on March 5, 2012 at 5:51 pm
    
    I also liked “The Man Who Would Be King.” An sweeping epic of a movie. Rudyard Kipling story, right?
unca_chuck said, on March 5, 2012 at 5:22 pm

Well, Sean Connery was much more in line with the way the stories were written by Ian Flamming. You know, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang? Roger was a little too foppish for me, as was Pierce Brosnan. . . . Haven’t seen any of the recent ones though.
Man, that used to the the biggest thing. Waiting for whatever crazy-aqss shit was going to happen in that opening scene of the latest Bond flick . . .

Hunt for Red October was a little ridiculous though. A Russian sub captain with that Scottish brogue?
- PawlieKokonuts said, on March 5, 2012 at 5:58 pm
  
  Seeing the Bond girls when I was WAY younger, they, they…well, I coulda been a pole vaulter in high school. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
- Chico said, on March 5, 2012 at 6:04 pm
  
  *Darby O’Gill and the little people* was a hit when we were kids, at least at my house. My folks had it on VHS, and it was always fun to watch the Lephercauns get drunk on Whiskey, oh, and the Banshees!. I can’t believe that movie was from 1959. . Connery was great in almost everything he did.
unca_chuck said, on March 5, 2012 at 5:22 pm

Flamming? Where’s the fucking ‘Edit’ button.

Flemming Flemming Flemming
PawlieKokonuts said, on March 5, 2012 at 5:56 pm

Magnus is serious about this fantasy thing. I may be the wrong type of guy for some of this. After all, when I go to the track and go by horsey names or something just as frivolous and girlie. SEA BISCUIT? Puh-leeeez. Hahahahahahaaha.

Hey, Flappers, my book is nearing some sort of home stretch. Goes to agent tomorrow. Editor friend of mine really liked it, which heartened me after a worrisome weekend. And some Cards fans were already talking up BASEBALL’S STARRY NIGHT on Twitter. BTW, the Flap WILL be cited!
- Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 6:01 pm
  
  Pawlie, that’s great news. Keep us posted.
  - PawlieKokonuts said, on March 5, 2012 at 6:11 pm
    
    will do, mate; I’m gonna send you a little gem from it
  - snarkk said, on March 5, 2012 at 10:35 pm
    
    Good stuff. Good luck with the editors/publishers…
Brian said, on March 5, 2012 at 6:11 pm

Caine actually starred in a 1976 feature called “The Swarm.” About killer bees that invade LA I think.
- unca_chuck said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:03 pm
  
  Yeah, he had quite a few stinkolas in the 70s. Jaws VII? Although Sleuth was awesome.
twinfan1 said, on March 5, 2012 at 6:20 pm

Pawlie sent me the Sunday “program” from his church, I was humbled to see that I was among those who are prayed for by the parish. I had some physical therapy Friday and the therapist said I was considered a “miracle man”, I attribute much of my good fortune to the prayers and positive energy from many of you. Thanks again..
- DJLoo said, on March 5, 2012 at 6:47 pm
- Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:11 pm
  
  that’s fucking awesome, Twin. Pawlie, you are a good man…….
DJLoo said, on March 5, 2012 at 6:24 pm

Which are busier? Bees or beavers?
- Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:16 pm
  
  Beavers build shit. Gotta like the builder/architect style attitude. That’s just how they roll. But bees make honey and honey tastes good. Then again, so does beaver. But bees pollinate flowers and you can’t put a price tag on that.
  I’d probably go with the bee over the beaver. Though I do like beaver. Hmmmm, I’m gonna noodle on this for a few hours, maybe the night, and get back to you first thing in the morning……..
Brian said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:23 pm

Nothing like a smiling Beaver!
DJLoo said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:30 pm

Bees must be busier. I see tons of beaver at the unemployment office.
zumie said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:36 pm

Huffster with the HR!
- Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:42 pm
  
  I must agree, Huff looks visually like he’s in better shape. It’s not a weight thing. He just looks more athletic this year. His quads are clearly defined through his uni. Yikes. Sorry.
  Anyway, he looks great. Nate better hit the shit out of the ball this year. I still totally envision Belt in the OF with Pagan and Melk and Huff at first base.
  It makes more sense anyway, Nate is better coming off the bench………
  - zumie said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:49 pm
    
    I agree. There’s absolutely nothing exciting about the thought of Nate as a regular starter.
Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:39 pm

I was struck by Twin’s 6:20pm post. The internet is pretty cool. The fact that I’m able to type in bikini babe and get 8 bazillion images to view for my *research* for the BBOTD is testament to that. I coulda used that technology back in the 80’s when it was the Madonna Playboy mag and a prayer.
But when I unexpectedly stumble upon a post like Twin’s 6:20pm I stop and appreciate what else the internet has to offer. It makes me happy to know I’ve created a place that has turned into a community that I’m proud to be a part of. First we were Giants fans, now we are friends….
The evolution is constant and ongoing……
Alleykat said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:43 pm

June Cleaver talking to Ward……
You were alittle hard on the “Beaver last night”.
St said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:48 pm

Bozo’s guy Blanco turning some heads. This year’s Darren Ford?
- Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:49 pm
  
  Sure, except he can bunt 🙂
  He’s got an opportunity here. He can make this squad….
Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:48 pm

Blanco batting reminds me a little bit of Felipe Crespo
- DJLoo said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:51 pm
  
  Felipe hit The Cove 2X I believe…
  - Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:00 pm
    
    correct-o
- zumie said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:52 pm
  
  I’m diggin’ his speed.
zumie said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:53 pm

How’s that for the so-called “manufactured” run? Nice.
- Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:58 pm
  
  I said at the start of last season, it’s ok to have no speed and big power or vice versa, but you can’t not have either. We have added speed this year, it’s going to be exciting and this is EXACTLY what this team needed…….
  It’s not just about adding fast guys. You have to add fast guys who get on base. There are a lot of guys who turn into Rickey Henderson when they get on first base. It’s the *getting on first base* part that’s the problem…..
  - PawlieKokonuts said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:44 pm
    
    true; can’t lack for both….me, I like homers, but I love the pressure that speed puts on the other team [I thought this guy Kokonuts said he was going to bed]
PawlieKokonuts said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:56 pm

Loved that clip from 1954…had my guy Johnny Antonelli on it. Author Scott Pitoniak is working w/ him on his autobiography, out soon. Maybe I liked Antonelli ’cause he has a uni-brow, like me. Yeah, watching the game. Broke down and paid for MLB, so I can watch game 162s from last year, and for this.
- Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 7:59 pm
  
  I didn’t respond to your email and I should have. The image your son created for your book cover was epic.
  - PawlieKokonuts said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:31 pm
    
    Thanks. Everyone says the same. He’s kinda sheepish about it; doesn’t follow sports at all. But it’s perfect. One person noticed it is based on Fenway — even I wasn’t sure of that until my son told me — and said it should be the Trop in St. Pete. No. Not meant to be literal. Blade wants a poster of it! (Did he come back with a 15yo wife??)
- zumie said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:01 pm
  
  Hey, Pawlie, congrats on what you’re doing. I know a lot of people who’ve said they’re going to write a book, and it never happens, including myself. It’s exciting to hear about someone actually doing it. Very cool.
  - Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:03 pm
    
    I wish you the best of luck in being the 2nd person to buy it when it becomes available…… 🙂
Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:09 pm

and what’s great about this is that it all came from the emotion of that night and never died. He called me maybe a week after 9/28 telling me about the idea. He stuck with it, never wavered, sludged through the sale of the idea, the minutia detail of the research and the actual writing…..I’m looking forward to reading it.
- PawlieKokonuts said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:38 pm
  
  Magnus, Zumie,
  Big thanks. You know, you’re right. I had to learn that it’s not the writing that is hardest, it’s the research, the calls, the emails, the salesmanship involved, the coordination, all that stuff you said. You nailed it. In that sense it’s been a bit harder or less fun. The flip side is the extreme reward of doing it and the miracle of creativity. Midway, I totally shifted focus. The Rays were gonna do interviews and backed off; no other teams returned calls. The O’s sent a sort of snotty email rejection. “Call us when you get a publisher.” So, the whole thing shifted to fans. In that sense, it may be unique (the phrase “rather unique” does not make sense). And fans have told me intimate stories, even life-changing. The fans are the heart of the game; players play the games, yes. But they play for fans.
twinfan1 said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:09 pm

One of Pill, Belt, Huff are going to have to go for Blanco to make it. That would probably be Pill and that leaves them without that RH bench guy so often mentioned. So I think Gregor is in tough. Personally, I’d take his for sure speed over Pill’s maybe power…and has anyone mentioned…he can bunt up a storm 😉
unca_chuck said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:10 pm

Shit. St. Mary’s totally blew the last 10 seconds. They should have fouled on the inbounds pass, but instead let the Zags shoot the 3.
zumie said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:19 pm

An Ishi sighting!
Flavor said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:25 pm

Belt isn’t going anywhere if he keeps hitting like this. Great catch my Schafer there…..
- twinfan1 said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:43 pm
  
  Never thought it would be Belt. As I said, most likely it’s Pill vs. Blanco..
unca_chuck said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:26 pm

Go Gaels! Woo hoo!
willieD said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:28 pm

This is my fav week of college b-ball, the conference tourneys. Even the smaller schools have some really good players and the games are usually hotly contested. Missouri valley games were great, even if the loser in the final winds up in NIT.
In the big one, you get the top seeds vs the 16s, etc. I’d rather watch the 16 seed actually get there than get creamed by a Syracuse.
Gaels win in OT, and the southern conference title game is a nail biter too. good stuff, and no melo or stack jack, etc.
- PawlieKokonuts said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:40 pm
  
  Syr is 30-1, or 31-1, but traditionally the local team does best in the NCAAs as underdogs. Sound familiar?
  
  Turned the game off.
  
  G’night, girls.
  
  (Where IS FerretHead?)
- unca_chuck said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:40 pm
  
  My daughter’s at the St. Mary’s game. In Vegas. (Un)luckily she just turned 21 . . .
  - PawlieKokonuts said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:42 pm
    
    too late now
zumie said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:29 pm

A Brooks Conrad sighting! One of our favorite people. (grin)
unca_chuck said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:38 pm

Wow. That’s scary. Spring training or no . . .
- PawlieKokonuts said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:41 pm
  
  uh-oh….what’s scary??
zumie said, on March 5, 2012 at 8:41 pm

The leftfielder went all Friday night softball league on us there.
- unca_chuck said, on March 5, 2012 at 9:06 pm
  
  Christian dropped the old proverbial can of corn.
twinfan1 said, on March 5, 2012 at 9:03 pm

If they do go with a real OFer as the 4th guy, I’ve mentioned Graham several times. So it’s not just Blanco.
GNight
unca_chuck said, on March 5, 2012 at 10:05 pm

No props for Ishi’s bomb?