Still Trying to Make Sense of What Happened on 4/9/12
Do you know how many people told me they missed that game? I still haven’t talked to a single person who claims to have seen any of that game—some caught an inning or two on the radio. Kinda reminded me of 1938 a little bit…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOlgxwyyivs
Let the conspiracy theories commence……..
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Stolen off Baggs’ Blog:
A list of all opponents to throw a shutout in 18 years at Coors Field:
Barry Zito, SF — 2012
Roy Oswalt, HOU — 2008
Andy Ashby, SD — 1999
Dave Mlicki, LAD — 1998
Pedro Martinez, MON — 1997
Tom Glavine, ATL — 1997
Hideo Nomo, LAD — 1996 (no-hitter)
Pat Rapp, FLA — 1995
Tom Glavine, ATL — 1995
Two visiting pitchers this century have thrown complete game shut outs at Coors Field?
T-W-O!?!?!?!?!?!?!……………………2. Let’s say 12 seasons X 81 games–that’s 972 visiting starts this century. Two of 972: .002%
Now, for conspiracy theory #2 of the day: If the Rockies started humidifying the baseball is 2002 then shouldn’t it stand to reason that it would be easier to throw a shutout and not harder? 7 visitors threw shutouts in the first 5 years of the park’s existence and 2 threw shutouts in the 10 years since they started humidifying the balls? Hmmmmmm…….
Also reading Baggs, I got some clarification on the Zito “113-6” stat. It is 4 or more runs scored while he’s in the game. Intuitively, that makes sense, I just haven’t ever had anyone clarify it. He’s 28-2 as a Giant, by the way, when he gets 4+ runs in his starts. Of course, I suspect Timmy, Cain, etc…. have a similar record.
That stat actually says a lot about Zito as a pitcher. He’s the ultimate front runner. When he’s ahead (implied in the stat) he’s got confidence and is spotting his pitches. Of course, there’s a flip side to that sparkling record. As a Giant he is now 44-61 and if he’s 28-2 with 4+….hmmmmm……almost there……….that would make him 16-59 when he DOESN’T get 4+ runs of support……Ouch. He clearly can’t pitch when he’s behind and so often he puts his team in a hole with a blow-up first inning. It’s difficult for teams to score runs when they’re down 4-0 after the first inning. I don’t know why, maybe they get emotionally deflated, maybe they get tired of standing in the field for Zito’s loooooong innings and it effects them later at the plate. Who knows……..
I will never understand what happened on Monday afternoon, and I’ve read all the articles that attempt to explain it with all the quotes from Zito and the Rockies hitters. It’s still too many standard deviations away from 1 (with “1” being Barry Zito on earth and the point of deviation located a few miles north of Mars) for me to apply any of it to a future occurrence. I did learn and accept one thing about that start: Zito is not completely done as a major league pitcher. You can’t throw a complete game shutout in ANY stadium and be finished.
Tom House? He’s finished. At least with any pitchers in the Giant’s clubhouse. I can’t imagine Raggs ever allowing for anymore of that crouching nonsense on his pitching staff………
I’d like to say that I’m worried about Timmy’s start today because his velocity is down and he’s obviously a little out of whack mechanically AND he’s pitching at Coors Field. Well, I don’t worry about Coors Field anymore. I can’t. Barry Zito threw a complete game shutout there on Monday afternoon. I could say that a million times and I’d never believe it…….
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Blanco gets the go-ahead! Who on the team could’ve done that last year after Torres got hurt?
Do you realize that it is only the 4th inning? Seems like 3 games have been played already.
We could very well be looking at a 16-15 final.OK if we have the 16…
Rockies fans don’t care if they win or lose . . . they just scored 7 runs and that means Taco Bell is handing out free tacos tomorrow. 🙂
Nice Blade,Im hungry for a chalupa.
Is that Spanish for blow job?
Say goodnight to Mota.
No one is throwing in the bullpen.
Ahh . . . They just got up and started throwing.
I think they got up and started throwing up.
The high-altitude, supersonic Altoona radiational wind is really blowing out tonight.
Si senor Paulito,that’s a real blow job blowing out of the stadium.
Yikes. This is pinball not baseball.
Just need to throw up another 7 spot in the 6th.
Except for Otero,all of are pitcher Stink of “Biff Manure”.Guess the Boys shot their wad early getting those 7.Well I did also say 16 -15 final, but damm they already have the 16, In 6 freakin innings,unbelievable…
Blade……Time for Taco Bell to double the fans orders.(sad grin)
Yeah, it even weirds out even more that Zito is the one guy to save the pen.
Timmy’s shortest outing.
ever
WTF???????????????????
Wow. It’s 3 stooges time.
facepalm
Is Vernon Davis available?
Wow even more. The guy on 3rd fot tagged 3 x and the ump missed all of them.
14-7. We need an Alex Smith comeback here.
I don’t know WTF you would call that last play, but we got this L coming.
They deserved it ?
You give up 16 runs before the end of the 5th inning?
You goddamn right they deserve to lose this shit.
Then, what a break for you. Your schtick fits one game..
Those dip shit sliders were Zito fast balls. They finally timed them….
This is as good/bad as Plan 9 From Outer Space..
Affeldt is getting lit up like a Christmas tree.
Rockies announcers are commenting on the fact that Bochy is going to let Affeldt “eat” this inning. Maybe at 17-7 he’ll get someone up in the bullpen.
Shit. They Fuck fuck fuck fuck. This is nuts.
They are calling up 2 pitchers tomorrow. Fucking Pagan is a joke. So far.
Is that a guess, the call ups?
Just an observation. They are burning thru pitchers like kindling. They don’t have a day off til the 19th, and that’s a flight to NY.
Mota didn’t exactly shut them down either, But they have 3 more innings. Someone has to get thru this
which way to the bridge?
Pick one . . .
Can we just do a Roberto Duran “NoMas”
BTW…..Watching these last few innings,l believe I have a case of SHINGLES COMING ON AS WELL!!!!!!!!!
I feel a hangover coming.
The one near me is pretty impressive (Foresthill)
http://tinyurl.com/7nvoaz9
Hey, it’s a start.
That’s how the last 7 run inning started.
I just got in and WTF?
Chuck, is Manning carving up the Niner D backfield?
Dand, looks like the Niners won’t even cover…
It was the ghost of Tim Tebow . . .
22 hits, 10 extra base hits, but no home runs for the Rox.
Lincecum had an outstanding ERA . . . compared to Mota, i.e., 12.91 vs. 15.43 (for those of you looking for silver linings).
Where’s Affeldt? 28.55? Silver linings? Pagan hit a ball hard.
Affeldt was our “Ace” Chuck . . . His ERA was 9.00
Oh shit!!! Wilson’s in for a non-save situation! I don;t believe it!!! How can Boch do that! Oh, the humanity!
Touchdown and a FG is all we need here. Come on Alex . . .
After I just sat through 3:45 mins of that shit. CSN now switches over to the Warriors game.
I don’t think so. Even I have my limits.
Stupid Rockies announcer said Lincecum is 0-2 to start the year. Wrong!
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never mind. he’s not the official loser of this game. though when you leave in the third with 6 runs on the board, and the game takes 4 hours to play, it can sure LOOK like a loss.
Yeah Mac, they have a problem reading box scores here in this cow town.
the cult of Nate – Reborn!
Holy shit, glad that one is over.
Just saw the score, and all I can say is Let the panic begin!
They’re having Tracy’s press conference and he said, “Well, Fowler and quite a few other players who were pressing prior to this game, will be able to see their BAs tomorrow night on the Jumbotron and feel a little bit better about themselves.”
lqtm.
You gotta be kidding me.The Dubs overcome a 10 point deficit to start the 4th quarter by scoring at will inside. So what do they do when they take the lead? Start shooting 3s.
chuck, repeat after me, the dubs need to LOSE, not win. This way it looks like they’re “trying”.
Oh, they are safe being in the bottom 7. It’s just nuts watching them come back prety much uncontested for 3 miinutes and they stop for no reason.
but getting back to the giants game, the whole pitching and defence is not working out so far. It will be interesting to see who bochy trots out tomorrow. I can’t see changing the outfield which means it comes down to huff/belt and burriss/theriot. Posey is allegedly ready to go so hector sits unless you pull the posey to first base ploy. but then you might as well send belt down to fresno. this is when ol’ BB loses some more hair.
Good night lads. catch you in the morning.
Pagan sure is showing squadoosh so far. Cabrera looks great. Shit. Start Pill at 1st. Huff and Belt are both napping. Burriss had 3 hits. Let him roll.
Put Melky in CF and lead off with Schierholtz . . .
Yeah, I’ve been drinking . . .
You guys were ahead of your time by quitting the Splash. I’m done with that place. Its the worst moderated blog I have ever visited and its at least 80% trolls. Talking baseball should be an enjoyable experience, even during a loss but its not possible over there. Not sure what took me so long to see the light, but whatever. . Looking forward to talking baseball more with you guys and with the folks over at JDR. Go Giants.
And did you notice right in the middle of that troll fest tonight was VK smugly stating that nothing was wrong on the Splash….but that he’s noticed problems on the A’s blog. Biased idiot.
Weird, really weird, start to the season. So far, so bizarre.
Krukow is so 2 faced.Prior to the game on radio he mentioned won’t be a problem with Timmy throwing to Sanchez,he will call his own game out there and Sanchez might suggest a pitch here and there, but Tim will just shake him off if he doesn’t agree.Then after Tim got”Bitch Slapped” all night, he was blaming it all on Sanchez.Fuck you Krukow, your the one that needsto “MAN UP”.