Cain vs. Hamels, who’s cuisine will reign supreme?
Here we go, Ace vs. Ace (Spy vs. Spy anyone?). These two are surprisingly well matched. Hamels and Cain were both drafted out of high school in 2002. Hamels, out of San Diego, was the number 17 overall pick and Cain, out of Germantown TN, was the 25th pick. Cain was the first to pitch in the Majors when he started a game against Colorado on August 29th of 2005. He went 5 innings. Struck out 2 and walked 4. Lost 2-1 on a solo HR by Matt Holiday in the second and when, in the 4th, Todd Helton scores after a walk, 2 base hits, and a double play. This would later be known as being “Cained”. Hamels debuted on May 12th of 2006. He also went 5 innings, striking out 7 and walking 5, giving up no runs. Since then, Hamels has an ERA of 3.36 to Cain’s 3.28. Their career stats stand at (Hamels/Cain):
GAMES CG IP HR BB SO WHIP
199/222 10/15 1287/1444 155/120 322/498 1216/1209 1.136/1.175
Their 2012 Stats are:
GS ERA IP HR BB SO WHIP
18/18 3.07/2.56 126/126.2 14/12 30/25 125/124 1.087/.955
If we look at Hamels at home vs. Cain on the road we see:
ERA IP HR BB SO WHIP
2.76/3.28 (9 games each) 64/57.2 6/7 17/17 69/55 1.097/1.197
And yet Hamels is 5-3 at home!!
So, what to look for in today’s game: In Wins:
SO/9 SO/BB HR WHIP
8.6/9.9 4.28/5.5 7/3 1.000 .929
In loses:
SO/9 SO/BB HR WHIP
10.1/7.7 4.67/4.50 4/5 1.360/1.238
A very intriguing stat is that in day games, Hamels is 5-4 (6-0 at night!!) while Cain is 6-0 during the day (4-3 at night).
A look at the umpiring crew reveals no news as apparently this crew has not officiated either of the two teams.
When I started looking at this game, it was from the perspective that this is a game where the bats go cold and the giants lose. Their Ace defeats our Ace. But Hamels’ day game stats (5-3) give a sliver of hope. Truly difficult to believe that Hamels gave up 7 HR’s in games that he’s won. Thankfully we have Brandon Crawford. Interesting to note that Matt has more walks when he wins than when he loses. Obviously he needs to keep it in the park though (Cole seems to give up more homers in wins, go figure). It’s easy to predict a low scoring affair, after all it IS Cain on the mound. But if it is, it’s also possible to predict that Matty, probably not getting the W, prevails in the end.
Now, does someone else want to go after Ted?
Jesus, how the fuck did we end up with that clown(no offense Bozo) Mitch diarria mouth Williams on the broadcast.
Hey Mitch, Joe Carter gives his regards!
Stupid fuck doesn’t even know who Mike Lum was . . . Said something to the effect, “Duh . . . I only go back to the 1980s.” Idiot.
remember when Pablo used to swing at everything?
Posey is red hot right now.Keep him catching,or Belt gets even less AB’s.No Whitey !!!7
Arrgh.. dreadful Panda
Weird stat?
Each team got a solo homer from the 3 hole, a 3 run homer from the 4 hole and from each pitcher! Can anyone ever remember when TWO starters each had a homer in the same game?
Fuck Belt, you never do shit with men in scoting postion.Your fuckin killing me!
Go back to the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk you fat fuck. 0 fer 5 with the biggest 0-fer coming in the most crucial situation. Vote for Pablo!
20+ pitches, now is the time to Paplebon one
Way to redeem yourself Blanco
Any guess on who closes?
I had a feeling moneypenny was going to die.
Encore has been running a Bond collection all July. Out of all the Bond girls, I think I’d take Miss Moneypenny. Sure, she might not have been the best looking. But in the end, Moneypenny would have treated you like royalty.
we are always on the same page my man
We are always on the same page, my man
And we take the lead on a 2-out bunt. I’m embarrassed. Bad play should not be rewarded.
But it was only a matter of time. The Phillies kept their closer in for a second inning in a NON-save situation. You tempt fate and you lose. And, please. Don’t any of you question me on my tirades when this situation arises. It’s not good for anyone.
Dennis vents! The world shakes!
by my calcs belt hits a DP ball
or a non-productive out
none of belts itches looked like strikes, and his swing isn’t flat. But then a GS would have not given us the torture we are used to
😀
Casilla coming in.Time to smoke a bowl.
Smoke away.
If Casilla blows this save, hanging will be too good for ’em.
Bad karma?
Well, don’t jinx him.
A team guy eh?
Bottom on the order helps.
boy, casilla f’s this up and we’ll have what the call in the pentagon, a situation.
GIANTS WIN. !!!!
Dennis is happy?
Of course he is Nip. He’s a Giants fan. 🙂
Good Karma always wins. Way to go Casilla.
ATTA Babe! Assist to Rags.
Good for Casilla. Splendid game, all is forgiven.
A little redemption. Sweet!
Game over. And all thanks to the Phillies bringing in their closer in a NON-save situation.
You guys can send your thank you notes to Del Mar Dennis and Frank the Cat c/o…
Great win
GREAT win
woo hoo
4-1 on this little east coast jaunt. excellent!
Indubitably!
I’ll take it… man, I was a Belt lover- I’m down to “sorta like.”
I still am and that is why I am so hard on him and his at bats, I WANT him to succeed.
Well alrighty then.Giants Win theeeeeGiants Win!!!
And Mr.Homer Mitchy go fuck yourself!! Joe Carter will supply the Crisco!!!
i had the sound down on the telly and listened to the radio. i can’t stand the network hacks.
they were pro Philly all the way and I only listened to the first and the tenth
Yeah they’re tiresome.
Real discouraging about Belt ,Twin.Even when he gets ahead in the count 3-1, he is just passive with his cuts.He needed to drive threw the swings and hit it hard,just not seeing that.His SLG pct sucks with men in scoring postion.
I might be the only Flapper who is a FOX Network fan. Least you forget they brought us the Simpsons?
D’oh!
True dat Dennis. Cartoons, yes. The rest of the shite they try to blow up my ass, not so much. To have all ownership of ALL games played, to the point that teams change their Saturday start times, and to also dick tate (how’s my dick tate?) what is being shown on a PAY channel? I hate them. Add in Joe Buck and Tim Macarvemybrainsout, unforgivable in my books.
ESPN has at least one secondary channel, let them fuck us over for awhile. Oh yeah, I was only talking baseball coverage. Get me started on football and Flav will need to invoke the Flap Code of Conduct on me.
Bozo, you’re my idol and I don’t even know you.
Don’t put Bozo on a pedestal. Next thing ya know he’ll be singin’ the praises of camel racing in N’Orleans. If one of those camels ever needs a jockey, I’m gonna put my closer who’s in a NON-save situation atop his dromedary ass and ride ’em like the wind.
The Dromedary, isn’t that the two-hump camel?
Ya gotta admit Dennis, a camel on the streets of New Orleans is pretty cool. Although I hear the poor fella didn’t drink. Some folks would think that’s a waste of street space in NOLA.
One comment from the cave with the bidet. Play Nate, win. BTW, I had a TV installed in the cave bathroom. I watched the whole game there and just kept flushing the toilet. What a great day in the Philippines! A Giants win and a totally clean butt hole!
I think the flushing did some cleaning in Philly as well.
Most impressive Berger,A cave with a bidet,much more functional then toilet paper and a butt slide.
You guys wanna hear sumthin’ really sad? Berger and I had a long, well-thought out discussion about bidets just about an hour ago. He and I usually shoot the shit on the phone, but this time we were cleansing it.
My buddy Baffert has a horse named Den’s Legacy (7/5) running here in the 6th at Del Mar.
I can neither confirm nor deny Bob named the horse after yours truly.
Story of my life. Den got beat by a head on the wire. Baffert must have brought in his maiden horse, Den, in a NON-save running situation.
Is Baffert your friend for real? I have a man crush on him, according to my wife, not denied by me.
You’re a pretty confusing guy to follow Dennis, but I like your style.
Quite a road trip considering the doubts we’ve seen whirled about the last week. Though I doubt a single thing has been resolved, it will make tomorrow a breeze. Sins and redemption and failure and success all in a few days. Now a sweep would be special just to stick it to the press, and, more so, to the really special Philly fans.
” Now a sweep would be special just to stick it to the press, and, more so, to the really special Philly fans.”
Cheers on that one Robbie. Although, I’d say those fans in Philly are EXTRA special. Go Giants.
I knew what the reaction would be to a Jonathan Broxton pickup at the wire. Could the same be said of Shane Victorino? I know Shane’s one of those player’s you love to hate when he’s wearing the opposite uniform, but what if he was wearing the orange and black?
Actually, I threw his name out there 2-3 weeks ago . . . He is a perfect buy low candidate in a big slump. I think the Phils are shopping him, as well as other Phils due to them already being out of the running for a playoff spot. Obviously, he would be a rent a player (due to his age and if you go by his previous contract demands . . . one reason the Phils are tired of his act), so no idea what it would take to get him. Yeah DMD, no problem as far as I am concerned.
The Giants now lead the NL in saves, with 34. Weird how that is a little discussed factoid, though it has caused me many a hemorrhoid flare up.
I pointed out their relief record the other day- even some of the best blog commenters are alarmists, win 5 of 6 and they be freakin’ about the loss. We not only have the most saves, we’re third in save percentage..
Victorino? Just bring Brown up. I’m tellin’ ya- he’s better NOW, let alone the better upside.
Not sure about Victorino, but Brown over Christian – I’m all for that.
Ed, just responded back to your email.
I was concocting Victorino trades on the Splash back in ’07. He does make sense for us but I’d be stunned if it happened…
Sabean is way too cheap to pay for his ticket. He’s quite a demanding and cocky little guy.
Cheap? Have you checked our payroll lately? Besides, he’s in no position to demand anything. He’s signed, we’d pay him about 3.5 million, he’s has no choice.
I thought I heard someone say he was demanding $14 million a year, and didn’t think they’d go for that much. I guess you’re talking the remainder of ’12, but I was assuming the talk was about offering him a contract. How much is the top fielding player making this year? I thought they were mostly bargain basements except for Posey.
14 million? Nobody will pay him that, not close.
He made sense in 2007..now he’s a good 4th OFer..
The Giants sure have their share of mutterers. Zito, Lincecum and Casilla are good at it, but Belt seems to be leading the team now in it. Reminds me of these folks you see walking down the street acting like they’re talking to someone on their cell phone, but it’s obvious they’re just pretending. Makes me want to walk up to them and challenge them, but cell phone nutjobs are often armed and dangerous.
A friend of mine send me this video of Frankel (my horse avatar) working the other day at Newmarket.
Simply poetry in motion…
If you’re Sabean and Bochy, how do you judge hitting talent in their system? Belt, Pill, Christian and the rest all seem to come up short. I mean I know they don’t see this sort of pitching, but there appears to be a bug in the hitting ointment.
I think Posey and the Panda worked out pretty well.
Did Pablo come out of their farm system? I hadn’t followed it closely but it seems like there’s a bit of a divide lately. Don’t they have a hot hitter now down there, Gary Brown?
Yes ,Pablo did.Counting pitchers- and they are part of the game, I think they have some pretty nice home grown products. Brown has been scorching in a pitcher’s league, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he was the CFer by the end of the year.
I’ll throw in another trade deadline move..Tampa Bay is in full trade mode.There looking for young.prospects at Catcher,Pitching,1B etc..
Giants should make a Splash and offer Belt,Josephs,Hembree,couple low-minor prospects,hell throw in Nate…For Jeremy Hellickson and Ben Zobrist.
That’s hilarious.
Christian is not from their system and they never thought of Pill as a prospect. As far as Belt, he’s getting way too pub good and bad. He’s had one full season in the MINORS. If they can’t deal with him, plenty of teams will.
Here’s my take on the upcoming trade deadline. Our giants won’t make a “Big splash.” However, “My” Dodgers will take the plunge and acquire a few names. Now, nobody knows if those moves will beneficial or not. As usual, trade deadline moves are a crap-shoot. But it will *appear* that “My” Dodgers made the bigger attempt while our Giants stood pat.
You ever do that holding three-of-a-kind in poker and not draw? Bad move. You should ALWAYS draw two.
Like others here, I think we can make it with what we have . . . I agree it wont be a big splash, if at all. However, you are comparing apples and oranges. Our payroll is approx. $130 million. The Bums are $114 million. They could spend as much as they want and their team still wouldn’t have a chance against us . . . Knock on wood.
Knock on wood you shall. We all know spending money doesn’t guarantee you anything. But it does guarantee you a better chance. Just ask the Yankees.
I’m thinking any trades right now by the Giants would be for the Playoffs. The way I see it, the cards they’ve been dealt right now will bury the Dodgers. I don’t see anyone the Dodgers can/could pick up to change that.
Absolutely John.
Well, your guys need more.
Jesus H. Christ. I couldn’t hit my horse today if he were standing in the middle of my barn and I fell atop from the center of my loft. Crash. Bang. Boom! Right to the moon, Alice.
I’m going to bed. I’ll hope we don’t have Reid Brignac, Victorino, and no farm system when I get up.
You sound like Hyman Roth as a GM…
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The only time I was shocked and shook my head on a Giants front office deal (trade, free agent signing, etc.) was when the GMen inked the ridiculous Barry Zito deal. I still have no idea who ultimately made that stupid decision, but am fairly certain that Sabean wasn’t responsible, except, perhaps, for not jumping up and down, complaining vociferously against the deal. Who knows? Maybe someone at 24 Willie Mays Plaza did complain. When that deal was signed, immediately upon hearing about it, I said “What the Fuck?”
I can’t say that I ever complained initially about any other trades or signings that were consummated by the Giants . . . The Garko trade? No, that came weeks later when I saw how bad he was. Armando Benitez? Nope . . . Again, I waited to see what we had before saying anything. Rowand? Same deal.
I think if everyone is honest, they more or less can say the same thing I am saying above. My point being that the Giants will evaluate the situation at or near the trade deadline and attempt to do what’s best for the team. Yes, the existing payroll comes into play. It is a business. Nevertheless, I trust Sabean and the brain trust to do the right thing. Go Giants!
Hey, TF. I’m trying to get another film critic, Scott Weinberg, to reply to my Cassavetes/Gazzara connection with “The Killing of a Chinese Bookie.” It is one of the best “Underground” films in cinematic history. That was one helluva character study. No response from the so-called film critic. Jew think you can act? As Don Corleone said to Johnny Fontane, “You can act like a man.”
Anyone here for signing Melky for ~ $15M/5 yrs.? That’s the figures I keep hearing.
I just asked Frank, and he made a gesture towards his poopy box. Take that for what it’s worth…
Yanks not enjoying Night at the Mausoleum…..again
I enjoyed that flick. And I’m probably in the minority, but I enjoy Ben Stiller. That’s probably because I love “Tropic Thunder” And “Starsky and Hutch.” By no mean means are either of those films are worthy of mention when it came to the Cannes Film Festival, but they’re worthy in my theater…
My motto has always been, “Grab some popcorn and enjoy the picture show.” Sit back, and relax…
Seriously, we win because we play Nate. You 50 and 60 yeaar old burners, root for Belt, even thougtht Pill is the guy that should be playing. All you JR GMs are nothing but Flavorless. Nate is the guy. From the cave, go Nate. He played, we won!
Here goes Berger again on his Nate Schierholtz love-fest.
Next thing you know, he’ll have you rooting for Alex Smith winning the Open at St. Anne’s.
I had a Sister Anne in charge of St. Jerome’s when I was in the 8th Grade.
Bitch made me attend summer school before I could be admitted to Salesian High School.
My Uncle John was the principal of Salesian at that time. I got no special privilege.
The other students assumed that since I was the nephew of the head man in charge, that I had it made in the shade. That couldn’t be farther from the truth. I had to work my ass off to get into Bullwinkle’s school…
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Back from Philly, an entertaining game to say the least.
Went with a Mets fan who had never been to CBB. Last week he was in SF and went to the Lincecum game vs. Houston, and he brought along the orange Cain shirt that was given out that night. Upon entering, we immediately saw a crowd on the field — it was Picture Day! So onto the field we went and got some pix of Rollins, Pence and none other than Uncle Charlie! Then a tour of the park and onto our seats in the upper deck, where we mingled throughout with a couple older Phils phans (there ya go, Pawlie).
And what a game. The All-Star pitchers hitting HRs (hope you liked that Nipper), a Buster bomb, blasts from the past by Utley and Howard, Pagan getting tossed, two balls thrown back to Hamels at the same time, a huge Melkman delivery, a standing O for Hamels, a missed squeeze by Blanco, a DMD special with the closer in the second inning of a non-save situation, redemption by the White Shark, and finally, Casilla nailing it down by getting Rollins on a lineout to The Riot, who had a helluva game in the field.
Afterward, it was onto Pat’s King of Steaks in south Philly for a cheesesteak (provolone wit) and cheese fries. Aerosmith had a concert across the street from CBB, but for any Phillies phans expecting a win today — Dream On.
Dream On? That was a great HBO comedy from the early 90’s.I remember watching that poor sap try to get back his life. His wife was Wendy Maick. She was hot. That was 22 years ago. She’s still hot!
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Lay off Unca Chuck or I *will* take a giant shit on you…
Where the fuck is PaulinAsia?
In Asia.
probably doing something sensible…like reading all this bs, laughing, and staying out of it, above the fray.
I used to tell b-ball kids, if someone on other team jacks you up with an unseen cheap shot, don’t do something equally as stupid (like retaliate and get caught) and lower yourself to their level—get your revenge on the scoreboard and just point to it..
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‘night lads. Play nice.
BTW- I’m only going after Unca because he made some shoot from the hip comments about Nate. I think Nate is important. Most here think otherwise. Unca made a comment that needed further developing. We’ll see who is right. Unca has tendency to say things that have emotion but no merit. I’m calling him out because I am a Nate fan. If I turn out to be wrong, so be it. But the loose cannon comments will be noted. Nate is a good ballplayer, in my opinion. Let us all see what happens. Good night my friends.