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A day Off?

Posted in Uncategorized by ewisco on August 12, 2012

Is it me or does Melky need a day off? I’m throwing this out because it’s after nine and so I thought i’d start the ball rolling. Give Blanco a start, give Melky a blow. there’s still Posey in the lineup. or do you wait for Pablo’s return (tomorrow?). On the one hand, it’s the Rockies. On the other hand, it’s the Rockies and you do NOT want to lose to them. I’m going to hopefully have a slow day but i’m afraid the lawn and garden await. Enjoy your Sunday Flappers.

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  1. blade3colorado said, on August 12, 2012 at 9:27 am

    Ewisco, much appreciation for putting up a thread . . . Frankly, it was like a ghost town on the Flap yesterday and that was true even during the game, e.g., I think I had 3-4 straight comments and felt like I was talking to myself. 🙂

    Seriously though, I think someone said it was the dog days of August and perhaps, we Flappers are weary too. Or, it’s quite possible that some flappers are on vacation (as I was for a couple of weeks during a road trip).

    Go Giants!

    • ewisco said, on August 12, 2012 at 9:49 am

      i suspect that folks are out doing. it’s that time to get in some of the last activities of summer, especially those of us who have kids.

      but what do you think about Melky? I haven’t checked but i have it in my brain (I look at the box scores every day) that there is starting to be a trail of 0-fers and yesterday was 1-5. I wouldn’t sit him against the Nats and then they have the dodgers and the braves with a series against SD in there (another place you could rest him if not today).

      • Macdog said, on August 12, 2012 at 10:04 am

        Tough call there. He’s 1-12 over the last three games, but before that he had hits in nine of the previous 10 games, including 2 or more hits in five of them. There’s a day off Thursday, so I say play him.

  2. blade3colorado said, on August 12, 2012 at 10:04 am

    Good news, bad news deal.

    Bad news is he will need to hit for the Giants to be successful, albeit they are still winning (6-4 last 10 games; and in 1st place by a game).

    Good news is that it might temper his agent’s salary/contract demands and more important, serve as caution for Sabean.

    Me? I’m not concerned . . . Giants bullpen is more on my mind than Melky hitting.

  3. willedav said, on August 12, 2012 at 10:09 am

    wisc fyi, melk is 1 for his last 12 after an 0-4 in last game of the trip at STL. As to be expected, OPS is 200 points higher on the road, where he has hit 9 of his 11 HRs. White is a RHP today, gio gonzalez the lefty going tmw. Melk is destroying LHP, with an OPS of 1.130 and has hit 8 of his 11 HRs against them. SF does have day off thursday before heading out—-3 vs. Pads, 3 in the Latrine, and 4 in ATL.
    Hope zito can keep the ball in the yard today….
    Noticed in the box score yesterday Nate was in CF for the phils (0-4 hitting .246), flanked by domonic brown and lance nix. No way that OF starts for them next year, but could be a career move for danville’s finest.

    • ewisco said, on August 12, 2012 at 11:54 am

      I’ve been thinking about nate and forgetting to look at the box scores. i was going to go to baseball reference later and check on his stats since the trade. thanks for the update.

  4. Flavor said, on August 12, 2012 at 10:26 am

    Thanks E. My *stable* is falling apart on me, lol. I’ll be catching the game from an outdoor bbq. We’ve rigged the big screen up outside and we are good to go!

    • Macdog said, on August 12, 2012 at 10:32 am

      You should re-post that great story about the scalpers, in case anyone missed it last night. And you’re a better negotiator than me, I would’ve taken the $60.

      • SanDawg said, on August 12, 2012 at 10:39 am

        That WAS a great story. Nice thinking on your feet to come back with the $100 counter-offer.

  5. sandog said, on August 12, 2012 at 10:43 am

    I’m about 3-4 years behind the times when it comes to technology. Recently my sister gave me her Blackberry, which is my first smartphone. I’m trying to find an easy way to access Giants scores on it while I’m out and about. Sites like sfgiants.com and mlb.com take too long too load—I’m guessing because of pictures etc.
    Can anyone tell me an easy-to-load site where I can get Giants scores? I don’t want pictures, highlights, video—any of that shit. Just the inning and the score of the Giants when they are in progress.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 12, 2012 at 10:48 am

      ‘dog, go to Yahoo’s baseball site or better yet, their fantasy BB site. Even my “Stupid” phone can access this site and you get a truncated version of ESPN, MLB, or SFGiants.com.

  6. Flavor said, on August 12, 2012 at 10:47 am

    Billy Swift interview on knbr right now–very good stuff

  7. Macdog said, on August 12, 2012 at 10:53 am

    I’m sure many of you here enjoy good sportswriters/columnists. And even though he’s from Boston, here’s the final column from one of the better ones.

    http://tinyurl.com/99upuu4

    • blade3colorado said, on August 12, 2012 at 11:27 am

      Ryan is a good columnist and what he wrote made me a bit melancholy for the “old” days. Thanks for sharing Mac.

  8. Nipper said, on August 12, 2012 at 11:02 am

    Some of you guys who write the topic of the day have finally come to your senses and stopped writing these long essays. I admire the effort but really it’s not necessary and I don’t want to know everything you know about baseball but if you insist on giving it for free…..I’ll take it.

    • snarkk said, on August 12, 2012 at 11:39 am

      Party pooper…

  9. Flavor said, on August 12, 2012 at 11:06 am

    Diggity– can you download apps on that thing or are you just going from site to site on the Internet? I use the fox sports app to organize all my baseball scores

    • sandog said, on August 12, 2012 at 11:52 am

      I don’t know man, I’ll look into it. This is a strange new world for me! Blade’s Yahoo suggestion loaded up well, so I’ll start with that. Thanks guys.

      • blade3colorado said, on August 12, 2012 at 11:59 am

        Blackberry’s lunch is getting eaten daily by Samsung and Apple . . . They have an antiquated proprietary OS, which has very few apps. Back in the day, they use to eat Samsung and Apple’s lunch. How the mighty have fallen.

        Ironically, in other parts of the world, Blackberry is doing a bit better. When I was backpacking C. and S. America earlier this year, everyone had Blackberrys it seemed.

      • eddacker said, on August 12, 2012 at 1:03 pm

        Dawg – look at sites that have a mobile version. Often they have a button: go to mobile version. Some, like goog know and you get the mobile site automagically. Mobile sites end in .mo instead of .com
        Blade – blackberry has never been an outstanding ‘smart’ phone. They did one thing well and they did it first: connecting to exchange servers so business clients could have instant access to their emails. and they have nice cameras. & keyboards.
        Dawg – not raggin on your new toy, they do a lot of things that make your life more mobile and are still a popular phone here because you get a lot for your money. the keyboards have always been superior; even with my big thumbs I can type faster on a blackberry than any other phone I have ever used. you will like it.

  10. willedav said, on August 12, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    Oh man, just saw highlights on nfl net from andrew luck debut, and he flat out dominated vs. Rams (21-3 indy at half). beauty of a TD pass corner of end zone and another one down the middle deep to the 1 yd. line. This will be all over the the sports and talk shows, believers vs. haters on the #1.

  11. Flavor said, on August 12, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    At the request of a couple…
    Flavor said, on August 11, 2012 at 9:27 pm (Edit)
    I have a *fuck the scalpers* stories that you might all enjoy. I bought 2 tickets in the bleachers yesterday (for today’s game) for $34.95 each. Printed them up. lalala….Realized they were for Sunday’s game. Fuck. I’m an idiot. Emailed stubhub, no response. Figured I’d have to sell them myself or eat them.
    So I buy 2 tickets for TODAY’S game, Same spot, $55.50 each. We go to the game with my friends, they were sitting in a very nice spot about 3 rows back along the left field line. We were gonna switch back and forth, which is what we did (as my twitter posts showed).
    So we get to the the game around noon and Dave tells me to try to sell the Sunday tickets (which I brought) to one of those “I Need Tickets” guys. I’m largely uninterested since those dudes don’t look like they have enough money to board muni, much less buy my Sunday tickets.
    I approached the first dude, he shuffled me off to the side (here we go), I show him the tickets and he offers me $20 total for the two of them. I retort with, “$60 for both”. He sits there and stammers for about 5 seconds and then tells me he might not be here tomorrow, blah blah whatever, I walked away before he finished his sentence…..
    Now let me be clear, I spent $34.95 each on the seats and another $14 or so on all the stupid ass stubhub fees. I wasn’t looking to get my $$$ back, I just wanted to get rid of them without giving them away. I have a bbq to go to tomorrow at lunch with friends and I can’t use the tickets I bought by accident (unless I want to bail on the BBQ which I actually considered but there would be social repercussions had I done so)….
    We are about to go in and there is *the worst of the worst* scalper sitting at the end of the black bridge on the way up to the stadium. He’s got a tattered tee shirt, he’s fat as fuck, he’s got a lazy eye and he’s not even speaking directly to the weirdos who are appearing to talk to him. Basically, he’s insane. But weirdos and insanity don’t scare me in the slightest. So there’s a possible sale here…….
    Dave says, “That dude wants tickets, give it a shot.” I’m like, “Big Daddy, you just want to watch me engage a deranged scalper, videotape it, put it on youtube and watch it go viral. I’m not doing it. ”
    But, I went and did it anyway. He was pretty cool once I got his one good eye to latch on to me. We did the whole “walk over here” bullshit….yada yada,,,,,I show him the tickets…..more yada yada,…..and he goes “$60 for both”.
    Now, I’m quite versed in the art of negotiation but there isn’t time for that. I’ve got my kid tugging on me to go buy shit at the dugout store (again, cute pic on twitterof some of what she had me buy her), my buddy and his daughter are wandering away, there isn’t time to make a lot of money off this guy who looks like he has less money than anyone anywhere within a 5 mile radius–of anywhere. And that’s saying something if you’ve ever seen the spot I’m talking about.
    I fire back, “Hey, I’m not giving these away, $100 for both.”……
    He pulls out a wad of cash, it’s all waded up and dirrrrrrrty, who knows where it had been. After he unwrinkled all the bills (and several of them fell on the ground repeatedly) it turned out to be a cool $103. I said, “Pfffffttttt…deal”, took the $100, left the worst wrinkled $3 for him and merrily walked into the Giants Dugout Store where my daughter proceeded to pop me for $120 worth of shit she’s never going to wear or use again…….
    And the moral of this story is that either I am a total buffoon and that borderline homeless cat is gonna double those tickets up tomorrow or I am one of the great graduates of Flavor Nation’s “School of Negotiation Class 101″…..
    I choose to go with the latter…….

    Reply

    • Bozo said, on August 12, 2012 at 1:02 pm

      So I got these two bleacher seats today from some homeless guy with a lazy eye, only 200 bucks. Hey, wait a second…

    • TedSpe said, on August 12, 2012 at 1:54 pm

      Good encore

  12. eddacker said, on August 12, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    ESPN moved the game time, it should be starting now 9pm bst, but no. ESPN here have the doger-dback game listed.
    we will see.
    Great result yesterday, Posey is really doin’ it. Which Barry will we see tonight? Pablo due back. I LOVE the left-right parade of RPs. _any_ glimmer of hope for my man belt makes me act like we just won the playoffs.
    go giants

    • eddacker said, on August 12, 2012 at 1:18 pm

      guess I saw something about NEXT SUNDAY’s home game on the 26th. cool

  13. ewisco said, on August 12, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    nice blog by Carl Steward of the Merc on our very own Buster Posey: http://blogs.mercurynews.com/giants/2012/08/12/postgame-notes-posey-has-the-joe-glow-and-a-few-quick-thoughts/

    Cabrera hitting third. i see that bruce wasn’t reading the flap this morning.

    • zumiee said, on August 12, 2012 at 1:34 pm

      Interesting take on Posey from Steward. I hadn’t read the Merc blog in quite a while.

  14. eddacker said, on August 12, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    Ahh, shucks, the game is on now. And for those of you who care it is the free game on mlb.com comcast feed with K&K

  15. Bozo said, on August 12, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    Got some runs so shut em down Zito.

  16. zumiee said, on August 12, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    For some reason, the thing I noticed in the Dodgers boxscore was Treanor’s 0-4, with 2 strikeouts. NBC made a big deal out of the fact the volleyball player was married to a MLB player. They made Treanor sound like he was a big deal for the Dodgers. Well, he did catch a shutout today, so that’s something.

  17. eddacker said, on August 12, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    and we are up and at bat
    I was going to do a last day Olympics post but put it up on my Facebook page instead. I will say that the athletes are very loosey goosey as they enter the stadium during the closing ceremony. rumor has it the clubs in London last night were packed.

    • Bozo said, on August 12, 2012 at 1:52 pm

      Ed- Any reports on all the condoms?

      • eddacker said, on August 12, 2012 at 2:05 pm

        I heard they tied a tie around the gate at the entrance to Olympic Village because everyone was doing it. None of the staff could go in. Like animals. It is so gross, the UK has to sell the furniture from the residents and who knows where it has been?
        [from the newspapers]
        A tie knotted around the outside gate of the London 2012 Athletes Village kept visitors and workers away last night, allowing all 10,000 athletes inside to engage in another huge orgy.
        “They’ve been doing that a lot lately,” said a janitor who had arrived to mop floors in the Village last night. “They’re having sex all the time in there. It’s getting pretty annoying.”

        London 2012 organizers provided the Athletes Village with 150,000 free condoms and the villagers have been making quick use of them.

        “They can’t give them to us and then complain we’re using them,” said a Dutch hurdler, speaking while inside of a Venezuelan swimmer. “We don’t have to put a tie on the front gate either. We’re just doing it to be polite. We’re not going to be made to feel guilty about getting laid constantly. We’ve been training our whole lives for this opportunity.”

        :LOL:

      • Bozo said, on August 12, 2012 at 2:11 pm

        Whew, that makes me feel better. I was worried about the whole waste not want not thing.

        And by the way ed, that was some awesome reporting. Cheers dude.

  18. zumiee said, on August 12, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    That thing BF said yesterday about big crowds is so true. We don’t always think about it, but it is pretty remarkable how 40,000 people can come together for a few hours and form a mini-city, in a relatively small space, all things considered. The Comcast broadcast does a good job of weaving the crowd into the broadcast, and obviously they do it because K&K do pretty good schtick with it.

    • ewisco said, on August 12, 2012 at 1:59 pm

      kruk was pretty funny yesterday with the guy ( a buddy ) sitting next to his wife.

  19. snarkk said, on August 12, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Sorry, but I don’t care where you are in the order, you don’t send Belt home there with nobody out. Stooopid move by Flannery…

    • eddacker said, on August 12, 2012 at 2:19 pm

      don’t blame belt

      • snarkk said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:00 pm

        Belt is not to blame at all. It’s all on Flannery…

    • willedav said, on August 12, 2012 at 2:31 pm

      thought so too–ball was hit too hard and right at cargo. they weren’t going to walk crawford, could have been a big inning.

  20. Bozo said, on August 12, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    Gotta get some runs here. The young Rocks are popping zits and we need some Stridex this inning.

  21. Bozo said, on August 12, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    The Riot.

  22. ewisco said, on August 12, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    fleming on the tv side just said that belt was thrown out trying to go home which i thought was bad reporting and unusual for david b. Clearly flannery sent him and belt was only following ze orders.

    • snarkk said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:04 pm

      Even the announcers cuff Belt around. It’s quite obvious. They don’t give him much credit when he deserves some, and rip him when he screws up, even mildly. He’s been on 3 out of 3 times today with 2 hits and a BB, just scored the go ahead. On radio, Kuiper grudgingly gave him kudos for the walk that led to the go ahead, meanwhile gushing all over Theriot for the hit and RBI. At the risk of repetition, I don’t get it. It’s like somebody sent a memo around to Giants employees at the start of the season — “when in doubt, rip this Belt kid”…

  23. TedSpe said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    And fuck

  24. snarkk said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    I’d like to know how the Giants staff stacks up in the NL in giving up hits to the opposing pitchers. The stat is probably somewhere. Often with RISP, like just now. Seems like it happens a lot…

  25. ewisco said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    the pitcher? seriously? shit.

  26. WilcoJoe said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    For the first time in years, I have very little confidence in the Giants bullpen…Bochy’s greatest strength is now his clubs biggest weakness.

  27. snarkk said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Hensley up to his old tricks.
    This guy is barely MLB quality…

  28. TedSpe said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Good Lord

  29. Bozo said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Fuck Hensley AND the hotel he rode in on.

  30. TedSpe said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    Well, off to pick up Mom. Have to follow the rest on the radio. Hang in there, lads

  31. manny said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    This is the time for Pence to shine.

  32. ewisco said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    The bullpen, handed a one run lead with a man at first and one out, promptly give up three runs in 1-2/3. Fuck. Now the offense HAS to show that they can come from behind. Especially at home. Pence?

    • ewisco said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:38 pm

      No, not pence. At least not yet

  33. manny said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Guess I jinxed him, damn it.

  34. Yard Dog said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Pence sucks. Phillies couldn’t unload his sorry ass fast enough.

  35. ewisco said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    Belt clearly wants a seat on the bench tomorrow. You’d think he’d know better than to keep getting these new fangled “hit” things.

  36. ewisco said, on August 12, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    What the f?

    • Bozo said, on August 12, 2012 at 4:07 pm

      Ewisco, to answer your topic question, NO.

      • ewisco said, on August 12, 2012 at 4:19 pm

        Maybe you’re right:)

  37. Bozo said, on August 12, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    YES!

    • Bozo said, on August 12, 2012 at 4:18 pm

      That’s to the Pence question.

  38. snarkk said, on August 12, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    Pence with the Pop!…
    Good for him…

  39. blade3colorado said, on August 12, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    Wow! I think Hunter just made some friends.

  40. ewisco said, on August 12, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    YEAH baby!

  41. Macdog said, on August 12, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    Finally!

  42. Bozo said, on August 12, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    Belt, keeping it going.

  43. snarkk said, on August 12, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    Belt — 4 for 4, two doubles, two singles, RBI, run scored, plus a BB. This kid may be hitting his stride, now…

  44. Flavor said, on August 12, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    Welcome to San Francisco Mr. Pence…you too, Mr. Belt…

  45. Flavor said, on August 12, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    That was one of the more entertaining HR’s I’ve seen in a while. Forgetting the impact it had on the game, Pence was a picture of pure joy from the second he swung all the way through the curtain call and the ultimate exhale he gave sitting alone on the bench. Brilliant.

    • snarkk said, on August 12, 2012 at 4:34 pm

      These guys are millionaires, but if they’re really into it, you can tell. It’s nice to see a player that really cares. Clearly, the dude was pressing. Hope this pops the pressure balloon, now he can relax and play up to his skill level. Get Pablo back, hopefully he’s not ballooned up again, and we may have some damn hitting going on here…

  46. Bozo said, on August 12, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    The Giants, proving that all they have to do is just keep winning every series.

  47. Yard Dog said, on August 12, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    Figures Pence would come through if I ripped him. Hopefully just the beginning. Go Giants!

    • Flavor said, on August 12, 2012 at 4:47 pm

      Nice job with the follow up post– most guys would just drift off into the Internet. Say whatever you gotta say to get us going 🙂

  48. zumiee said, on August 12, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    I nominate BF’s 4:30 for post of the day. Give it to yourself today big guy. You captured the moment perfectly.

    • Flavor said, on August 12, 2012 at 5:56 pm

      Hey, any time I get a flapper to nominate me for a POTD, not to mention a flap vet AND a stable boy, i will gladly bow to the request… 🙂

  49. zumiee said, on August 12, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    It looks like I’ll be going to Wednesday’s game. Should be quite the series with the Nats.

  50. zumiee said, on August 12, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Dirt and Chi were pinch hit for, so it should be Ted tomorrow with the main post, correct?

    • willedav said, on August 12, 2012 at 5:50 pm

      yeah, let us know, OK jefe de los jefes flav?

  51. Flavor said, on August 12, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    I’m gonna send out an email to the stable boys shortly. We’ve had some changes with Twin and Dennis leaving (for vastly different reasons) and the last 2 days have been filled by, well, fillers. I’m happy Nipper likes the brevity but I just want to check with everyone if this is still something they want to do.

  52. Bozo said, on August 12, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    They should have ended with the Lennon, Imagine piece. Sorry, but no where, in any context, should George Michael follow John Winston Ono Lennon EVER.

  53. Nipper said, on August 12, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    Pence’s talent finally came through dramatically today as we all knew it would. We fans have a tough time being patient with players and expect results immediately. With Pablo coming back, I hope we can again be patient with him. I admit it’s a challenge.

    • Flavor said, on August 12, 2012 at 6:29 pm

      Nip, I’ve been blogging with you since the beginning. And I can honestly say that if there is one person here qualified to preach *patience* it is you, my man. Thank you, that’s a skill I’ve had to work on my entire life….

      • Bozo said, on August 12, 2012 at 6:39 pm

        BLEEP!

      • blade3colorado said, on August 12, 2012 at 6:43 pm

        Flav endorses patience!

      • Flavor said, on August 12, 2012 at 7:10 pm

        *Practice Patience and Positivity in the Present…”
        It’s the only way to live, brother….

  54. paulinasia said, on August 12, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Perhaps Pence has been pressing a bit, although he said he wasn’t, but the key is, he was not brought in to be “the answer”, the way Beltran was kind of hoped to be last year. Sabean said as much, and I agree with him. Pence was brought in as a piece to the overall offense puzzle that had been elusive, with the idea being that once Pablo is back, that’s a damn good heart of the lineup with Melky, Pablo, Buster, and Pence. Not one big bat to save the day, but a series of very good hitters that will often be tough to get through for the opposing pitchers. With Scutaro and Theriot doing fine in many situations, and Pagan finally claiming rights to lead off (I posted weeks ago that they needed someone to nail that position down and stick with it, and while I predicted that should be Blanco, I’m happy to see Pagan doing the job), and if the Brandons just continue contributing their stellar defense and the occasional key hit…. they will score runs. The bench is still not the strongest, but with Blanco there now, and Sanchez back, it could be fine especially if strengthened with a waiver wire pickup, as Sabes is wont to do now and then. Almost mid-August and no collapse and looking good….

  55. Alleykat said, on August 12, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    Hunter is just going thru the adjustments of a new team,im not worried about him at all,he’s produced rather in Houston or Philly.He still has a nice amout of RBI’S per games played and says he loves the freedom of the extra spaces in RF to cover and getting use to all the quirky angles.The dude can play,and that’s half the battle.

  56. Sportdude said, on August 12, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    Out of town…What happened to Twin and Dennis?

  57. TedSpe said, on August 13, 2012 at 8:12 am

    And new thread


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