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2 Ellises and a Cruz

Posted in Uncategorized by zumiee on September 7, 2012

Without these three guys, the Dodgers would be NOWHERE this season. The “Big 4” get all the publicity, but it’s these three guys, grinding out tough ABs, starting and keeping rallies alive, who have kept the Dodgers chugging along. The Big 4, as a unit, have not lived up to the hype yet, and in fact, the hype has kind of faded for the moment. Ethier is having a nice season,  Ramirez is a player on the decline, Gonzalez has yet to prove he can get a team over the hump, and Kemp is clearly still feeling the hamstring to some degree. It’s especially noticeable on defense. When he and Ethier are hitting on all cylinders on defense, the rightcenter gap pretty much disappears. Not so these days. There’s a gap between them now. And AT&T Park has a lot of green grass to cover.

Having said all that, it’s a tough one for Timmy tonight. I think that, other than Victorino, whose glory years are behind him, and the pitcher’s spot, there’s 7 tough ABs for Tim to work through each time through the order. And it’s especially important that he dispose of the 2 Ellises and Cruz without expending a zillion pitches, getting weary, and making mistake pitches to the Big 4. As always, he needs to get his pitches down in the strikezone, and stay consistent. Don’t be walking guys. If a couple of the Big 4 hit a solo homer, no big deal. We still win 4-2. But if he’s walking the 2 E’s and C, trouble. The 2 E’s and C have been catching some breaks, and those breaks are due to lessen at some point. They’re going to put the ball in play, trust your defense, and DON’T WALK THEM.

40,000 people in the stadium, and untold thousands at home will be pulling for Timmy to help the Giants retake the homefield advantage for the rest of the season. Turn it back into OUR HOUSE in a big way. This is Giants baseball. You come into OUR HOUSE, and you get SHUT DOWN. We want it back to where opposing teams don’t FEEL comfortable here, they don’t LOOK comfortable, and they don’t ACT comfortable. Dominant pitching, solid defense, and an offense that will keep battling, will find a way, and never gives up. It’s Giants/Dodgers. It’s September. It’s a battle for the division title. Let’s do this thing!!

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  1. Alleykat said, on September 7, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    Fucking Ellis is getting on my nerves.The only Buttwad we can’t get out.

    • unca_chuck said, on September 7, 2012 at 9:58 pm

      Hairston goes down, and Skippy Ellis replaces him.

    • demp28 said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:22 pm

      Read my post from earlier today. I said fuck Mark Ellis. He’s been a thorn in the Giants side wherever he played.

  2. snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    37 of the 40 Man roster are available now with the big club. And, pardon me if I repeat something said earlier, but the Steve Edlefsen era is over. DFA’d…

    • Alleykat said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:09 pm

      Nothin is over Snarkk till the Flap says so.Edlefsen could still reappear like how we all willed Emmanuel Burriss back.

      • snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:16 pm

        Include me out from “all” Kat…

  3. Salty said, on September 7, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Classic Dodger Giants. Wouldn’t surprise me if this ended up 6-5.

  4. unca_chuck said, on September 7, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Fuck, I thouight we were going to have a quiet inning.

  5. snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Come on. Step on these cockaroaches…

    • blade3colorado said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:03 pm

      • snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:08 pm

        Love that movie, Blade. That’s where it’s coming from. Ha ha…

  6. unca_chuck said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Ro-MOOOOOOOOOO!!!

  7. snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    Romo. Squish. Nice…

  8. Wilcojoe said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    Outside of what, two bad outings, Romo has been fucking nails….Unreal!

  9. PawlieKokonuts said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    I’ve got a nickname for Sergio Romo: The Desperado Kid, or Desperado for short. I’m probably late to notice, but his sly little half-smile — mad smirk — is worthy of a character in that movie “Desperado” with Steve Buscemi and Salam Hayek et al.

  10. Alleykat said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    Grab some Pine Ellis!!! Romo to much for your pansy ass.

  11. snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    We could use a dinger here, just for fun…

    • blade3colorado said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:08 pm

      I have forgotten how to act when a Giant hits a HR.

      • PawlieKokonuts said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:11 pm

        act like a prom queen

      • blade3colorado said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:13 pm

        If you take meeeeeeeee . . . Puleeeeeze! (insert gay ass smiley face)

  12. Salty said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    Love that run with Gonzales Kemp Ramirez Ethier due up in the 9th. Who closes this out?

  13. PawlieKokonuts said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    I’m singing arias for Arias.

  14. Bozo said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    Hell YES, Arias.

  15. Alleykat said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    ARIAS!!!! Make’s it so Captain!

  16. snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    Hey, that run Belt scored is as good as an HR. Clutch late inning hit by Belt to get started, and then the clutch AB by Arias to get him in. This game has been typical Dodger/Giant. Love this stuff…

    • Alleykat said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:19 pm

      That extra run made my “Belt” of Scotch go down alot smoother.

  17. snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    Scutaro, why not another clutch AB? Get ‘er done….

  18. snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    Alright Romo.
    Just one more cockaroach…

    • snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:24 pm

      Squish!…

  19. unca_chuck said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    What happened to Loo?

    Ballgame!!!!!!!! 5.5, BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. Alleykat said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    Huge Statement Game.Doggy’s are toast after we Sweeeep their asses!!!! Romo Nails!!! The Shutdown Closer!

  21. Wilcojoe said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    Hell yeah!

  22. willedav said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    Nothing whatsoever from dodgers middle of the order. Nothing…check the box…ellis and ellis, zum’s two guys with 2 hits each, and kennedy with an HR. vic and the million dollar guys, with the season on the line? Not one hit all night.

  23. unca_chuck said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    For all that, Romo still scares the living shit out of me as the closer.

    And, Timmy. as usual, pitches the heart of the order masterfully but gives up 2 walks to the 8th place hitter and a honme run to the 7th place guy on an 0-2 lazy curve among the 7 walks.

  24. snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    Huge, huge win.
    LA had to want this first game big time, and they failed.
    Helluva’n effort. Up 6 in the loss column sounds nice…

  25. SanDawg said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    Great win.
    As soon as Kennedy hit that homer, I knew Flav was gonna go ape-shit on Timmy. Glad they righted the ship and pulled out the W.

  26. PawlieKokonuts said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    Dear Dodgers: Click “Standings.” Read. Refresh. Read. Refresh. You are just as close to the D’backs as you are to the GIANTS. Signed, Bill Neukom from Partsunknown, CA.

  27. blade3colorado said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    Stop watching Giants baseball and tell your doctor if you experience difficult or painful swallowing, chest pain, or severe or continuing heartburn, as these may be signs of serious upper digestive problems; or, if you experience an erection that lasts more than 4 hours.

  28. demp28 said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    5.5 up and 6 in the loss column with 24 to play. Magic number is 19. Which is only fitting since that is Scutaro’s number.
    Now, the only bad thing is, is tomorrow is a day game. Giants are 17-16 in day games after a night game. However, Cain is DUE for a win.

  29. ewisco said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    Sweet!

  30. PawlieKokonuts said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    Plus, our friend Nate gets a walkoff for the Phils. G’night, girls. (And where be Ted?)

    • snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:34 pm

      Good for Nate…

  31. willedav said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    0-20, Vic Agon Kemp Hanley Ethier. who comes through in the clutch like pagan scut casilla and romo, innings 7 to 9 when it’s on the line, and who doesn’t? sorry, but ned can’t buy cojones for these guys.

    • snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:35 pm

      I like to see Pence grow something these next few weeks…

      • blade3colorado said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:39 pm

        He’s actually not doing too bad in his last 15 games . . . .292 BA, 8 runs, 1 HR, and 10 RBIs.

      • snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:53 pm

        He’s getting RBIs, I’ll give him that. Just doesn’t seem to be really hitting strongly, consistently, or some kind of adverb, not sure which. Maybe this is how he operates, he hits around .280 or so, it’s just not pretty. I would like to see a handful more of dingers from him this month. His RBI hit tonite was a lucky bounder, that thing down the 3rd base line. I’d just like to see him get that .slg up some more…

    • zumiee said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:42 pm

      I remember the video footage of Ned, a day or so after the Big Trade, grinning a big crap-eatin’ grin. However people feel about Sabean, our GM wouldn’t be walking around with a crap-eatin’ grin. Everything about the Dodgers is crap. Their under-achieving trade acquisitions, their fans that don’t show up, their stadium that’s been allowed to fall into crappiness. The way Vin Scully still thinks he’s so good he doesn’t need a color analyst for the TV broadcasts. I can’t think of a single thing that’s good about their organization at the moment. I do like Magic Johnson a lot, but he’s a basketball guy, and he doesn’t really know what’s going on with a baseball organization.

  32. Bozo said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    Y’all want to talk stats, that’s cool but Friday night Giants/Dodgers games in September? You can throw that shit against the fan and it don’t stick .What does that that mean? Well, I’m not sure completely, but I do know we kicked some royal blue ass tonight.

    • Bozo said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:36 pm

      Oh yeah, I almost forgot. That BLEEP was fucking epic!

  33. Wilcojoe said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    I gotta busy weekend:
    Sat: college football till 3pm ct
    Giants- Bums 3pm ct
    My Longhorns at 7pm ct

    Sun: Texans-Dolphins 12pm ct
    Niners-Packers 3pm ct
    Giants-Bums 7pm ct

    Iam sure my wife will find some.way to fuck up all of the above.

    • blade3colorado said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:40 pm

      Joe, she sees that list, she’ll trump ya with her “honey do” list.

    • Flavor said, on September 8, 2012 at 6:58 am

      haha, totally!

  34. unca_chuck said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    A-Gon looks pretty crappy out there

  35. snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    Pagan tonite: 3 for 4 including a bunt base hit, plus an intentional BB. So, on base 4 of 5 times. 1 Run scored. 1 RBI. That’s a nice line for the leadoff guy. Hope he’s feeling it again…

  36. unca_chuck said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    Ahhhhh, shit. The Giants game is after the Niner game on Sunday? I may not make it to Monday.

  37. unca_chuck said, on September 7, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    Yeah, Zumie, I said at the time that the trade was reminiscent of a basketball trade, and those usually didn’t work in baseball.

  38. Bozo said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    Let me just make this comment number 335 – Way to go, coach Z.

    • Bozo said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:01 pm

      Oh and, night all – great win.

  39. zumiee said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    A message to the Dodgers…..

  40. stixwiz said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    This one was the Backbreaker. Must win night for the LaBumbos and look at what happened. Their money can buy anything bad karma came back to haunt them with their vaunted middle of the order going ZERO for the night. Kudos to Timmy and a spectacular effort by Casilla, Romo and committee to throttle the Bums. Casilla’s clutch work to stifle a potentially very dangerous situation caused by Bochy’s unwillingness to pull a pretty taxed Timmy after the first man got on. Whew! Santiago at his finest. And Romo’s three-consecutive ground-out shut-down in the ninth probably spelled the end to LA’s hopes for the NLW. If the Giants merely go a .500 12-12 the rest of the way, the Bums must go 17-6 to match them. A winning record the rest of the way for SF and only a Hollywood finish which even the ’27 Bronx Bombers would have had a hard time pulling off would be LA’s only chance.

    Washington’s GM may give him a run for the money, but Sabean’s acquisitions in the offseason and at the break have made this team into a solid winner. Hell, he should get MOY for Pagan and Scutaro by themselves. Scutaro was a total steal ~ and from the Rox ~ WITHIN the Division. Amazing. Buster was befuddled tonight. He needs some rest. Probably would object, though. That’s our MVP and very likely the league MVP.

    Timmy toughed it out. Walks/warts and all. He came up big in a huge game. Bums simply could not hit him. Without the walks and some bad defense for their first run, the night wouldda been a romp. But we’ll TAKE it. Too bad #55 couldn’t get his 9th win, but with his sparkling effort Casilla deserved his 7th victory.

    Halloween Machine once again is on a roll to another Black and Orange October.

    • snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:20 pm

      Nice to see you back, Stix. How’s the Northwoods these days?…

  41. eddacker said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    AS a Timmeh apologist I would like to say: I really do not want to be apologising this time next year. Not sure he is pitching to avoid contact, but the loss of the fb as a go to pitch is hurting him. The guy is nibbling and walking too many. I see, as twin said, that the Lincecum we see is the Lincecum we have and that is 50% of a cy young or even a top starter. As for an injury, if there is one, I will stick with the years of not icing his arm after games loses fine motor control muscles first.

    • snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:28 pm

      Edd, I’m interested in that take on the ice. Is there some kind of data that shows that? And, when you say fine motor control muscles, generally speaking what are those that might relate to pitching and control?…

      • eddacker said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:43 pm

        I do not have anything but empirical data. Ice stops damage from soft tissue swelling. Mostly in the muscles around both sides of the elbow and some times in the shoulder. Fine motor control muscles are the longer smaller ones more susceptible to injury over time. I will ask my physio friend for details.
        One reason I have suspected it is because it would be a cumulative type injury. his arm is strong judging by the number of pitches he throws and no other noticeable injury so tendons and big muscles ‘ok’. He has been “wild” indicating an inability to control his release consistently.
        Of course there _could_be other reasons for what I am seeing.

      • snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:58 pm

        OK, thanks. Yeah, I’d be interested if you get more details. It does seem that the “release point” is his issue with the lack of control, that’s practically all Kruk every talks about what is wrong with Tim. If the fine motor control muscles, ligaments, whatever, are in the hand, wrist and forearm, that makes some sense to me as where fine control is gained/lost, at least in a general way…

  42. demp28 said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    Let us not forget that B-Weezy was in the dugout tonight. Good luck charm? We miss you Willie!

    • chipower9 said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:33 pm

      Yes…great to see the Weeze in the dugout…

  43. willedav said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    I know it got mentioned earlier, but that first run off lincecum was pretty cheap, with two groundballs not handled cleanly on the IF. Esp that last one to Pablo, if he picks it up cleanly they had a pretty good shot at getting ellis at the plate going on contact.
    Look at the late inning stuff–casilla comes in with two on and shuts them down. SF gets a couple on, they score. Same thing with romo, a couple on he gets out of it, then SF comes up with the insurance. Great team effort in the clutch.
    Dodgers, meanwhile, remind of an old Jonathan Winters joke about drinking “Old Cardtable…one shot and all your legs fold up.”

  44. TedSpe said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    Loverly.
    Let’s do the same song with a different singer:

    • TedSpe said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:33 pm

      Meh. Nice job, I love Frank (I BETTER) but Tony does it better

      • PawlieKokonuts said, on September 8, 2012 at 7:28 am

        Interesting, but I don’t like the phrasing as much as Tony B. sinatra was a perfectionist. Listen to his diction. And his phrasing is his own, isn’t it.

    • chipower9 said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:43 pm

      Quite fitting after whooping ass on the Bums. I still like Tony better, but a nice mix. Great all around team effort tonight…and got the initial momentum going into the series. Go Giants…Sweep the Fucking Bums…

  45. eddacker said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    Adrian, Kemp, Hanley, Ethier: 0-17
    screw you Las A**hole dogers

  46. TedSpe said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    • chipower9 said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:44 pm

      Frank’s version was good…but this IS IT…Fuck Yeah! Love my Giants and Love them Beathing L FUCKING A!

    • TedSpe said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:47 pm

      Union Bank.
      Really.
      Fuck’em
      Whatever
      G’nite, blokes

      • Flavor said, on September 8, 2012 at 7:01 am

        Back in the late 70’s, I opened my first checking account at the Union Bank in Palo Alto. It’s been a wonderful childhood memory. And now you’re telling me to fuck ’em?
        Hmmmm….
        Ok, I’m in.

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on September 8, 2012 at 7:31 am

      Yes, after I went to AT&T and found out Tony sings after a win, I bought a single on iTunes. Ha. I’ve seen this very version on YouTube. Hey, does Tony sing after a home loss?

      • zumiee said, on September 8, 2012 at 7:41 am

        No, they don’t play that song after losses. I can’t remember what music they play after losses.

  47. snarkk said, on September 7, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    Witching hour. Adios, and Go Giants…

  48. twinfan1 said, on September 8, 2012 at 7:50 am

    What a fine ballgame- a gutty effort from Lincecum, great relief, great defense after the first, Bochy proving why he’s the best once again, flawless small ball by God!!,Scutaro clutch again, and oh yeah, the CFer was OK too 😉
    Now Cain and Zito get their shot. Mr. 13 in the biggest game of his career here- a chance to show he can come up big against a top flight line up and dueling the reigning Cy Young holder. Style poiints don’t count now, save ’em for the figure skating., Make no mistake, he’s fighting for a win AND a spot on the postseason roster. There are scenarios where he and Vogie could both make it but Barry can go a long way to insuring a spot with a big effort tomorrow.

    • eddacker said, on September 8, 2012 at 8:05 am

      Exactly, you and Stix nailed it, after all the hankey twisting TL showed a fighting effort, the pen was solid and the weakness BF always talked about – LA pitching showed up menaing we got some runs. After the two errors that got LA their first run Kennedy paid us back on that bad hop grounder.

      5 hours and we are back at it
      go GIANTS!

  49. eddacker said, on September 8, 2012 at 8:08 am

    360+ comments and the blog peaked at 162 visitors. Tell me the dogers aren’t in town? They are and it is charged up.


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