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What, me worry?…

Posted in Uncategorized by snarkk on September 26, 2012

I gotta run outta town later this morning up into the north of NorCal, so I don’t have much time to cogitate here on last night’s game.  Suffice to say, I don’t put much stock in it, one way or another.  Part post-clinch blues, part Lincecum maybe off  his feed even more due to two extra days rest, part for some wild-ass reason the Dbacks just regularly feed off Timmeh like sharks on a wounded whale.  At least I’m sticking with that.  Give him one more start to tune up.  If he flails in that one, I’ll chalk it up to sandbagging the oppo, because he’s going to make at least one start in the first PO series.

I will say that I think this Hector catching in the playoffs is problematic.  He’s a hacker, and he can connect with one every once in a while.  Or have a nice, two hit game with a couple of RBIs.  But, I’m leery of him catching a playoff start of either Zito or Lincecum, especially Tim.  The past balls/wild pitches last night were not cool.  Plus, we need the best D we can get out there against the Reds or Nats, because you can’t give away anything to teams that can really score without the help of shoddy D.  If the Giants are figuring on winning close, well-pitched playoff games, management should want Posey at C, Belt at 1B and Blanco in left (maybe Nady) with the proper gloves on.  Now let’s win a coupla in a row to get the mojo going again…

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  1. PawlieKokonuts said, on September 26, 2012 at 5:58 am

    I tend to swing the other way (no, not like THAT). I’m crazy enough to say tonight’s came is important. You don’t want to be in a losing funk at this point in your season. Last night’s game puts me in a foul mood. Leave me alone.

    • Bozo said, on September 26, 2012 at 7:15 am

      And you kids, get off of my lawn.

      • unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2012 at 8:54 am

        . . . said Clint with a rifle in his hands . . .

  2. eddacker said, on September 26, 2012 at 6:09 am

    I am the one that worries. Unlke smarkk I never have a good answer. So my report is cruising. And basking. And totally happy my team is is the pay-offs, Maybe I should be humble?

  3. PawlieKokonuts said, on September 26, 2012 at 6:36 am

    Many of you are, or were, Californians. All of you seem to be Americans, at least as a country of origin. I am reading “The Lie Factory,” by Jill Lepore, in The New Yorker magazine, dated Sept. 24, 2012. Of all the articles I’ve read there over the years, this is one of the most riveting — and I am not even done. “The Lie Factory” is about Campaigns, Inc., the first political consulting firm in the world. And it all started in California in the Thirties. Those here who say, “This is a baseball blog; I don’t talk about politics” miss the fact that politics and baseball have always intermingled and intermingle today. (The reserve clause is a singularly important example. Of all industries, baseball gets exempt from the anti-monopoly laws? Politics hits a home run. But I digress.) “The Lie Factory” in The New Yorker of 9/24/12 tells why truth does not matter in civil discourse, even in, say, a blog. And we can trace it back to two individuals, a man and a woman, in California — not that it could not have started anywhere else.

    • unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2012 at 8:55 am

      Adam and Eve? There will be no intermingling here . . .

  4. willedav said, on September 26, 2012 at 7:55 am

    I’m just not in the Hector camp, esp for playoffs. His OB is at .287 coming into last night, and he has 4 walks all year in 200 ABs. He also has 2 HRs and 15 XBH all year, or one every 13 ABs. Add into that 50 Ks in those same 200 ABs, and you get puro hacker. I”ve heard miller and flems on radio comment often on how undisciplined a hitter he is, and vs. top of rotation types in playoffs I don’t see the advantage.
    Defensively he doesn’t bring near as much as posey does at C, and as we have all brought up over and over again we also take a hit without Belt at 1b. After watching Lincecum last night when he couldn’t put any pitch where he wanted to, I don’t think there is anything to the *comfort zone* argument he is better with Hector as his C or that they have some kind of special chemistry.
    And I’ll stand by what I said last night–Lincecum has zero leverage for who is behind the plate when he is pitching. While the game last night was a minor irritant just as much for the fact SF couldn’t rake freaking Collmenter, this is not the way Lincecum wanted to go into post season. I think bochy does give him one more start, either Sunday vs. Pads or Monday vs. LA in order for him to have a chance to get people out for a few innings and regain confidence. And it will be interesting to see who catches him then and what happens.

  5. willedav said, on September 26, 2012 at 8:13 am

    Gotta admit tho I was hoping the re-appearance of DJ Loux on the mound might trigger something Flapwise….

  6. unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2012 at 9:00 am

    Alfred E. Neumann lives! Funniest thing about him was how similar he looked to Dubya, 30 years before the fact . . .

    No, there’s no reason to sit Posey, er, no reason to stand Posey at 1st. Uh, no reason to NOT squat Posey.

    They HAVE to put their best guys out there. Timmy don’t like it? Bubbles don’t like it? Fuck ’em. Take a hike next year. I secretly wonder if Timmy’s lifestyle rubs Posey the wrong way. Bubbs seems to have developed a man-crush on Sanchez in rehab last year. Still and all, Posey catches every game.

  7. willedav said, on September 26, 2012 at 9:07 am

    flav alluded to this last night, that there isn’t anything special Hector brings to the equation that posey doesn’t. He couldn’t help Tim out of his troubles last night by what he was calling or any other way (communication, slowing him down, getting in his face or a pep talk) either. He didn’t make a difference.
    I can understand saving the obvious wear and tear on Posey during regular season in that situation, but playoffs NO. And I’d rather have Nady’s bat in there backed up by blanco’s late inning D with Belt at 1b.

    • twinfan1 said, on September 26, 2012 at 9:22 am

      I’d rather see a Nady/Blanco platoon myself. Belt at first, of course.

  8. twinfan1 said, on September 26, 2012 at 9:17 am

    The only thing close to a believable explananation on Hector catching Tim is the one about Tim beating catchers up- but he’s at his best when he’s bouncin’ away. Don’t buy it. Even though my online Psychology degree is of a much better pedigree than “Dime Store”, I’ll spare you all some of the details of Tim’s problems in throwing to a fellow FOF. But with last night’s “performance”, Mr. Bochy needs to take one or both to the woodshed if the boys can’t agree to get just get along. Hector is a fine young reserve catcher and he should be able to do some good learning from the bench in the postseason- he should have zero starts in the playoffs when Bochy needs to field his best lineup every day. Hector is not a part of the best line up…if Buster doesn’t catch everyday, our manager is not giving us the best chance to win..

  9. Bozo said, on September 26, 2012 at 9:30 am

    At one point in last night’s game (before Goldschlager hit the dinger) I thought it looked like Posey started to go to the mound to calm Tim down but didn’t. I could be wrong, maybe Buster was just checking on how the grass was cut or in my imagination I thought someone should.
    Anyone else notice that?

  10. twinfan1 said, on September 26, 2012 at 10:02 am

    I didn’t notice it but by that time i was watching more of my movie and less of the game. I did notice Tim looking like he lost Lassie after Goldsplat’s HR.

  11. PawlieKokonuts said, on September 26, 2012 at 10:17 am

    Speaking of “lies,” i did a radio interview this morning and then doing another one at 4:45 ET. Maybe you can catch it streaming. http://espncny.com/ If I can mention The Flap, I will. Vote for the Giants for four more years!

    • Flavor said, on September 26, 2012 at 12:43 pm

      will there be a link to it at 4:45EST?

      • PawlieKokonuts said, on September 26, 2012 at 3:19 pm

        Not sure if there was one, but all done; went fine. On a plane to Tampa tomorrow.

  12. Alleykat said, on September 26, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    Wisconsin Vision is offering free eye exams and laser surgery to all the Scab Refs after the Monday night horrific ending.LOL…Like that would even help.

    • Bozo said, on September 26, 2012 at 1:57 pm

      Wisconsin? I guess they feel that’s a better plan than letting the Union refs back into their State.
      Sorry – I’m not trying to get political here, just a wee joke.

  13. dirtnrocksnomo said, on September 26, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    So I am looking for some help from the degenerate gamblers fo the Flap. From what I gather that means most of you. If it doesn’t apply to you boo hoo. Don’t get all offended.

    What is a good post season betting scenario for an office that can be set up? Not looking for something too complex but any ideas are welcome. Series winners and number of games per series leading up to WS winner would be a good starting point I suppose. Any other ideas?

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on September 26, 2012 at 4:16 pm

      Can you add some spice to it? Maybe estimated cup sizes of bikini babes? Is that degenerate enough? I can go lower.

  14. twinfan1 said, on September 26, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    Everybody be sure to have your TVs on at 6 Pacific- the Pope will be addressing the NFL officiating crisis and word that he helped broker a peace. There’s also a rumor he”ll chat a little about whether Buster should catch Tim in the postseason, as well..I have advance word through my sources that he’s going with the TD call in the Packer game…

  15. twinfan1 said, on September 26, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Angel Pagan CF, Marco Scutaro 2B, Pablo Sandoval 3B, Buster Posey C, Hunter Pence RF, Xavier Nady LF, Brandon Belt 1B, Brandon Crawford SS, (Matt Cain P)

  16. Flavor said, on September 26, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    Hoping we see the guys gear up a notch or two. There are many examples of teams that coasted into the playoffs in recent years who went tits up in the first round or who didn’t make the WS. And a few wild cards and/or teams that got in on the last day that did very well.
    Of course there are a few teams recently who coasted into the playoffs and still won it all or did very well.
    So, there’s nothing statistically proven with this post but it’s something to consider.
    But I am glad to see the wild cards get jobbed a little by having to play the 1-game play-in and burn up the pitching staff like it’s a *game 7*. I’m tired of watching average teams sneak into the playoffs and get hot for a few games and go home world champions……..

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on September 26, 2012 at 5:54 pm

      I agree w/ you on the new WC thingy; was asked about that twice today on the radio. It makes the WC on a lower footing, puts the WC at some disadvantage. That’s good. I don’t know about other sports and how that works or doesn’t work. Of course, the slippery slope is what I really fear. How far will they go to *appease* and *involve* fans and get everybody involved such that it becomes a watered-down product of no meaning?

      • zumiee said, on September 26, 2012 at 6:08 pm

        The slippery slope can happen. The frustration that the WC teams’ fans feel after they watch their teams battle for 162 games and get eliminated in one game is something to consider. And then….how does that affect the fans in the future? Why care so much about the regular season the next time? I could see a scenario where a percentage of baseball fans just ignore the first half of the season in the future.

      • unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2012 at 6:09 pm

        Can you say hockey? NBA?

    • twinfan1 said, on September 26, 2012 at 6:31 pm

      Like a lot of people, I think that a one game playoff is a travesty- I’ve already explained the reasoning. I understand the differing view, I just disagree with it.

    • Nipper said, on September 26, 2012 at 7:09 pm

      BLEEP the WC! One game is all they deserve.

  17. unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    Amen to that . . . Time to at least act like you’ve got your game going on.

    • Nipper said, on September 26, 2012 at 7:24 pm

      Chuck getting religious?

  18. Macdog said, on September 26, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    An excessive amount of K’s obviously hasn’t slowed down the A’s:

    ARLINGTON, Texas — The Oakland Athletics have set an American League record for striking out the most in a season.

    Chris Carter’s strikeout in the second inning Wednesday night at Texas was the team’s third of the game and 1,325th this season, one more than the Tampa Bay Rays had in 2007. The A’s quickly added to that total when Brandon Moss followed with an inning-ending K.

    Oakland already had four strikeouts through two innings, but also had a 5-3 lead at that point against the AL West leaders.

    The A’s, who have seven games left after Wednesday night, already surpassed their previous strikeout total by more than 100. They had 1,226 in 2008.

    • Nipper said, on September 26, 2012 at 7:10 pm

      A’s on this blog?

  19. Nipper said, on September 26, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    Will there be a Zumiee Book Report on GAGNE’s new book?

  20. Irish Kevin said, on September 26, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Well I see the Posey where will he play conversation is still going strong. I agree with squat and leavie it! Hecter is an upgrade over NoWhitey, but not even close to Poseys abilities. I am done in Modest taking care of my 87 year old mom, who fell and shattered her wrist, doctors put a plate there to help it heel. So anyway, my wife calls and says the scuttle but down where she works is whether Zito should start in front of Timmy in the PS and WS. Have at it gentleman.

  21. twinfan1 said, on September 26, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    Hard to trust either one.Git out them hittin’ shoes.

  22. Bozo said, on September 26, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    100 for Posey.

  23. Macdog said, on September 26, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    100 RBI, alright Buster!

  24. twinfan1 said, on September 26, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    We’re going to be looking for that Woo-Hoo ! 11 times this postseason, Ferret…

    • ferrethead said, on September 26, 2012 at 8:54 pm

      Even though I haven’t been posting on the blog, I promise the W-H has not had a chance to get rusty. Hope to break one out soon, here!

  25. Bozo said, on September 26, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    Marco has just been MONEY.

  26. Flavor said, on September 26, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    Just had a great hour long chat with Pawlie on skype (we were checking connection) in preparation for Flapalooza 2.0. Bozo, hit me with your skype screen name.

    • Bozo said, on September 26, 2012 at 8:30 pm

      Now that’s a good question. My wife set it up so I’ll have to ask her in the morning. Skype-A-Shot, can’t wait.

      • Flavor said, on September 26, 2012 at 9:08 pm

        fuck yeah. taking dial-a-shot to the next level!

  27. Bozo said, on September 26, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    Alright Giants, keep it up.
    NC Flapper division signing off. Coach is trying to keep me ripe for the playoffs.
    Cheers all.

  28. tedspe said, on September 26, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    First off a HUGE welcome back to ferrethead!!!!

  29. tedspe said, on September 26, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    Cain’s so fucking good he makes it look boring.
    In fact, that describes his entire career.
    But that no hitter will finally wake up the fuckheads what vote for the Cy. This better be his frackin’ year

  30. willedav said, on September 26, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    Pence looked like he was trying to protect his head from a canseco bounce and tracking the ball by sonar. Cain pitched out of it tho.
    Looks like SF guys have strokes back–good ABs from belt, pablo, scutaro, crawford… and cain himself.

  31. willedav said, on September 26, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    This is what I was hoping for last night—Sf rakes the crummy SP and the guys who follow him, our SP holds down Bax for 5-6 ish , and then the motas and oteros get a few batters to stay fresh. Cain gets everything back to reality.

    • tedspe said, on September 26, 2012 at 10:09 pm

      I didn’t understand one word you just wrote

      • willedav said, on September 26, 2012 at 10:26 pm

        Ted, when goldschmidt hit the ball to the wall Pence took his eyes off it as he jumped and just stuck his glove up where he thought it was and missed it. the guy does some funny looking stuff out there.

    • tedspe said, on September 26, 2012 at 10:14 pm

      If we can get a DP, though we don’t need a DP we’d be 4-6-1 on the outside with a forlorn boogie on the B-Side.

  32. ferrethead said, on September 26, 2012 at 10:14 pm


    • tedspe said, on September 26, 2012 at 10:16 pm

      Woo-Hoo indeed

  33. tedspe said, on September 26, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    Great game. And–is it just me or does Greg Papa look like an extra in a George Romero movie?
    Nevertheless, goodnight ladies and gentlemen (question mark)

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