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Flapalooza and other unrelated items

Posted in Uncategorized by ewisco on September 30, 2012

Another Flapalooza has come and gone and was quite successful. Great to see Coach Willie D and my man Blade (I have your glasses by the way. We can discuss their ransom over lunch). A treat to meet the incomparable TedSpe. Had a great chat with his honor Snaark. Drank Skype shots with Bozo and waived hello to Pawlie. As always a pleasure to spend time with Big Flavor. We talked about most, if not all, of you and noted how much we would enjoy meeting up someday. Some great discussions about cheating and what should be the repercussions, from records erased to banning from the HOF. All in all, a blast and I hope many of you can make the next one.

Driving home I listened to some of the Marty Lurie show and he posed two excellent questions. The first is: Was this season a success? By the only true definition of success, if the G’s reach my goal of 94 wins then yes; it is a resounding success regardless of any other considerations. So take that! But seriously, I think that this team had an expectation of winning the Division. And in that regard, this season is a success. Getting to the PS is always good but when you should win the division, a wild card berth doesn’t meet, what I’ll call, the other definition of success. As to what happens in the PS, that’s always a crapshoot. We talked about this some but you can’t expect the other team’s fielders to have two balls go under their glove (Snaark, I’m pretty sure that was Conrad Brooks). You can’t expect a potential home run to land on the top of the fence and come back (Ian Kinsler). Cody Ross going deep twice off of Doc? Uribe, huge HR late against the Phils? Renteria? Not to mention the Mark Lemke’s of the world.

And speaking of Mark Lemke, Marty’s other question was: who will be the key pitcher and position player? My first thought of pitcher was Cain. He HAS to win his two starts in the NLDS (assuming he gets a second). The first start for many obvious reasons but one of which is Matt Latos. BF posed this earlier and we discussed it last night but who really wants to see Latos come into ATT for a big game? So if he’s matched up against Cain in the first game (I have no clue what the Reds rotation would be and I’m NOT looking it up now) that’s a HUGE game for the reds. And if it gets to a second start, it will mean that it’s either game 4 or 5 and we absolutely, positively, have to win this one. I gave the bullpen a lot of consideration, although that’s kind of cheating as it’s not one pitcher, but with the fearsome foursome of Lopez, Affeldt, Romo and Casilla, they have to turn every game into a seven-inning game for the other team. If the g’s have the lead after seven, it’s got to be automatic.

For position player my first thought was Crawford, sort of in the Lemke model. Bottom of the order, probably some key rbi opportunities. Turn the lineup over. All extremely important. But thinking about it more, I think it’s Pagan. He’s the straw that stirs the drink right now. His getting on and running around like a lunatic sets the table for Marco, Pando, Buster and Pence (who looks to be hitting his stride!). So Pagan’s my guy.

I forget whether it was nipper or Loo who hated long threads. Sorry ☺. Did I mention the importance of 94 wins?

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  1. Bozo said, on September 30, 2012 at 6:37 am

    Just in case anyone was wondering, I made it home OK from last night. Hope everyone else did as well.
    Cheers all.

    • Flavor said, on September 30, 2012 at 7:47 am

      I’m still reeling from the stage you were working from—Giants gear from head to toe, bobbleheads all over the place, shots and bottles to aid the skype-a-shot experience….sorry about the sound, it was hard to hear you in the bar but taking a shot with you was one of the great successes of last night!
      Let it not be our last…..

      • Bozo said, on September 30, 2012 at 12:24 pm

        I had a good time as well. I’m thinking another skype a shot during the POs. You in?

  2. eddacker said, on September 30, 2012 at 7:55 am

    Ouch, I think I may have missed my post. Or not.
    But Teds beautifull thread in cluding a a Stievie Wonder vidio> a classic wich led me to remember Ray ~Charles, who was a favoite after Theolnisu Monk. Ray liked him so why owuldn’t I?
    #back int the day and my all time favoite song. (like many people I have a few)

    enjoy one of my favorites.

    • Bozo said, on September 30, 2012 at 12:43 pm

      Years ago I saw Ray at a large venue in New Orleans. He had the big group with him. On the bill was Dr John also with a big band. To open the night up was one of my favorites, Snooks Eaglin with his three piece (George Porter Jr on bass). What a fantastic night. I also ran into a work friend, New Orleans was where he was from and he moved back because he was dying. He lived for another month or two after I saw him at the show. It was an incredible show and I was very glad to see me friend one last time.

  3. Flavor said, on September 30, 2012 at 7:55 am

    And to your thread ewisco, I’ve privately wondered how we’ll all react if the Reds wipe the floor with us in 4 games. Not that I think that’s going to happen–just wondering if it will change my opinion of this season. And I decided that it wouldn’t change a thing. This season was absolutely a success by winning the division. I would actually consider it a RESOUNDING success based on *how* we did it—bitch slapping the Dodgers after their pathetic hail mary trade for A-Gone and Beckett.
    Now, the season could go from *resounding success* to *magical* if we win the world series. *Magical* is the next level of success to attain…….
    One letdown about last night: Edd never chimed in! Edd, you needed to send me your skype name otherwise it makes it quite difficult to find you on skype. 🙂
    I did manage to dump a photo of him that he sent me last night into the Flap Photo Bucket widget to the right.

  4. willedav said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:01 am

    Eric always good to see you and talk to you, love your energy and enthusiasm, and your own coaching stories.. Flap-2 was a lot of fun, and we all are thankful Flav puts the blog together in the first place, keeps it running, and is able to sched a meet up.
    I’d agree with you on Cain–ace has to set the tone. I think that had a lot to do with 2010, when he was lights out throughout the playoffs while SF was belting around the likes of Holliday and Lee. One other thing Flav brought up last night was how Cain has been damn good all year while the other four have rotated in and out of good/not so good. He ‘s going to have to be the rock, since you’re less than sure about others….like last night.
    I’d also say Pagan’s D has to be solid—if he is making all the plays in CF it will be really key. Realize he will have either Belt or Nady in LF so it’s really imp he catches everything he can get to, esp at ATT. Defense, which has been a little funky lately, is gonna have to be solid—get outs on the routine stuff and turn DPs when you have a chance. Goes for all of them, but with as many flyballs as we’re likely to see, Pagan’s CF play will be very imp.

  5. blade3colorado said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:04 am

    You read my mind Bozo . . . I’m hoping everyone that was at Flapalooza 2.0, checks in this morning, where we know ya all made it home all right. Sheesh, I don’t drink, but I am half blind at night . . . Fortunately, I just follow and stay to the right of the dotted yellow line (ala’ Dorothy) and I seem to make it home all right. Anywho, you all give us a shout this morning.

    Yeah Eric, I really enjoyed myself . . . By the by, you have someone else’s sun glasses, since I had my planted on my forehead. Grin, grin, grin, as Zumie would say. Nevertheless, it was good to see you again and yes, let’s do lunch while I am here.

    I finally met the mysterious Ted, a man of a thousand voices, actor extraordinaire. Quite frankly Ted, you need another handle . . . I am thinking “Wild Man Ted” or something similar. Yes Flappers, Ted is . . . umm, pretty wild.

    Willie – I’m glad we moved around (seats) and I finally got to chat with you one on one about schools we attended, the bay area in general, and growing up here. We definitely have to do this again, because I left thinking I didn’t scratch the surface insofar as questions I want to ask you.

    What do you say about Flav? Magnus put together this Summit Meeting and YOU ARE LARGER THAN LIFE. It helps that you are 6′ 4″. Ha. Seriously though, it was wonderful to finally meet the man that’s responsible for the Flap. As Eric said, it’s amazing that you put up a thread each and every day, sans a couple of holidays. My Giants hat is off to you sir. Looking forward to possibly hitting the gym with you while I am here.

    Good to see snarkk again. I was floored when you showed up – I was thinking that your trip north would keep you from coming. Glad you made it my man.

    Pawlie and Bozo – Due to technology, we had you guys in that bar last night and I’m glad you were able to make it!!!

    • Flavor said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:18 am

      Ahem. You *shorted* me by about an inch and a half. I’ll assume the 6’4 was a guess from *down there* (and relax, everyone is *down there* to me) 🙂 🙂 🙂
      Rob told me that some cat wearing a Giants cap and a black trenchcoat was in the corner of the bar staring at us all night–didn’t order a thing. He was just s-t-a-r-i-n-g. Any guesses as to who that Flapper might have been? lol

      • blade3colorado said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:28 am


  6. twinfan1 said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:12 am

    “Conrad Brooks”. LOL. One of the “stars” of “Plan 9 From Outer Space”- not surprising he couldn’t handle ground balls either.

    • blade3colorado said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:35 am

      Who was the other “Brooks” guy that was on the Dean Martin show? The guy was always drunk. Racking my brain trying to figure out who it was.

  7. tedspe said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:13 am

    I’m just impressed ewisco put up a great thread. Not that he’s not capable but he threatened to lay an egg

    • Flavor said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:20 am

      have the same trouble making it back to the City as you did coming down to Los Altos? Or does the direction thing only happen when you’re going somewhere away from home? 🙂

    • blade3colorado said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:30 am

      I’m pissed . . . Per Snarkk, I missed most of the impressions you did last night Ted.

  8. Flavor said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:32 am

    Just updated the Flap standings. Edd has a commanding 7.5 pt lead with 4 days left in the season. Dirt is making a surprising late run to push Dennis to 4th place. Jeez, who knew that Carlos Beltran getting traded to Blade could have such reverberating repercussions>!!?!!?!?!?!? LQTM

    • blade3colorado said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:39 am

      No shit. Not only that, but my pitching has turned to crap and I lost my commanding lead in runs to Ed. I’m still not giving up you God Damn Frickin’ Limey Bloke, since I have a plan for the last day of the season . . . umm, call it “Plan 9 From Outer Space.” 🙂

      • Flavor said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:54 am

        I’m employing the same strategy today.

  9. Flavor said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Um, this is too great to just put into the POTD. Read on…
    tedspe said, on September 30, 2012 at 1:22 am (Edit)
    Great flappin’ FLAPAOOZA tonight!!
    It was such a freaking trip to actually meet Flav, Blade, Snarkk WillieD and Ewisco. Mofos looked nothing as I thought they would though.
    It’s just so weird that each and every one looks exactly like Tony Curtis circa 1955.
    Here’s the thing though. I mentioned I have no sense of directions, right? So I left s.f. around 3:30pm. After asking 3 to 5 people who actually lived in town and had no idea where it was, I got there around 6pm out of pure luck and osmosis.
    Then I was going home. After about 45 minutes driving around I finally pulled over to a lady walking her dog. “Uhm..” I asked–What City am I in right now? She replied “San Jose”
    I swear to God, if she looked even remotely like Dionne Warwicke–I would have went–amok. So, I asked her how to get back to S.F. She gave me directions–and they were wrong. After another 45 minutes driving adrift, I pulled into a gas station. I asked the dude–What City am I in right now? He replied “San Jose”
    However, he told me how to get to 280 and I finally got home–around midnight.
    It took me this long to just settle enough to rant about my fucking commute.
    But again–FLAPALOOZA was a success. Skyped Pawlie and Bozo as well.
    Good times!!!
    But next year?
    San Francisco

    • blade3colorado said, on September 30, 2012 at 9:03 am

      THAT IS TOO FUCKING FUNNY TED. Easily the post of the year IMO. Your own personal “Twilight Zone” . . . Lost in San Jose???? LOL. Everyone looks like Tony Curtis . . . Shit, I am beside myself, laughing my ass off dude.

  10. zumiee said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:58 am

    Blade, that’s Foster Brooks you’re thinking of.
    Great to hear the stories from everyone at Flapalooza. I’m vowing to make it there for sure next year. (GRIN)

    • blade3colorado said, on September 30, 2012 at 9:05 am

      Ahhhh! Thank you.

  11. twinfan1 said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:59 am

    I posted numbers for September last night, forgot OBP. So here’s who’s getting on:

    Pagan .310
    Scutaro .418
    Panda .387
    Buster .426
    Pence .302
    Belt .363
    Crawford .364

    Overall, like the other numbers, impressive. There had been a discussion before about who will shine and who might step up in the postseason, and there’s never a way to know, even based on who’s hot in September. Scutaro’s scary because we knew he was a a solid guy,but he’s totally out of his frigging mind. And Pence leads the team in RBIs this month despite a terrible BA, poor OBP, and poor OPS. I liked the 3 kids to step up( Hector, BTW. is .317 BA, .343 OBP,.812 OPS in 41 AB this month) but repeated my September call of Panda and Pence to lead the way…
    Pitcher? Where’s Hacker? Ferchrissakes, Zits might be the frigging two by merit right now and that’s scarier than even “Glen or Glenda”

  12. twinfan1 said, on September 30, 2012 at 9:06 am

    “It’s just so weird that each and every one looks exactly like Tony Curtis circa 1955”
    In other words, like the husbands on “Real Housewives of New Jersey”?

  13. blade3colorado said, on September 30, 2012 at 9:08 am

    Flav, please tell me that you took a group picture last night? I could have sworn you had the waiter take one of us all????? Is that all the pics from last night?

  14. willedav said, on September 30, 2012 at 9:45 am

    ted my man, sorry for your ordeal, I’m sure one of us south bay guys would have gladly helped you out if we knew. San Jose is so huge and spread out it’s easy to drive a long time and still be there, lol. In my occasional forays into SF I’ve gotten lost many a time, even when I stayed there one summer. Lived in a “freak” hotel south of Army on Mission in the mid-70s and used to get lost all the time trying to get over to the Haight. I’ve also turned wrong way down one way streets, been unable to find where I parked my car, etc.
    One word tho (actually acronym for three): GPS.
    Btw, you never told us where/when this play you are in is performing….

    • tedspe said, on September 30, 2012 at 10:03 am

      I lent my GPS to a semi-girlfriend who fucking happens to live in San Jose and I gave Flavor a head’s up I might bring her along but she was in Stockton for a funeral yesterday so–I was totally screwed.
      One other funny thing…when I arrived only Flavor and Blade were there. I knew them from their pictures here on the Flap but they couldn’t have known me from Adam.
      And if ever two guys ever had a “Who the fuck’s *this* douchebag??!!” look on their faces when I walked in it was these two. And these are two intimidating looking mofos in the flesh, Tony Curtis not withstanding.
      It took a few moments before they accepted me as TedSpe.
      To answer a question, THE FIFITH ELEMENT opens next Friday at The Dark Room on Mission between 18th-19th in the City and plays all October Fridays and Saturdays at 8pm

      • blade3colorado said, on September 30, 2012 at 10:27 am

        I seriously thought you were WillieD based upon the Flapalooza 1.0 group picture. How? Umm, don’t ask. Obviously, I was mistaken. Anywho, yeah, I was dumbfounded when you were standing there, thinking, “Who the fuck is this MOFO?” 🙂

        By the by Ted, what made your story about wandering around the “Streets of San Jose” (no pun intended) so fucking funny, is that on Friday, after dropping off my parents at Pier 27, San Francisco, for their cruise – I was lost for over an hour on the Streets of San Francisco” (pun intended), looking for the 101 South freeway. I knew I was lost when I was within a block of Coit Tower . . . Even more lost, when I was on Union street, near Macy’s. I finally found Van Ness and crawled my way to the freeway and freedom. Oh yea, plus I had to drain the vein, and let’s just say, I was fortunate not to soil my Mom’s car by the time I reached their house in Sunnyvale.

      • tedspe said, on September 30, 2012 at 10:33 am

        hahahahaha. Too fucking funny.
        Well, off to rehearsal. Flap with ya’ll in a couple hours

  15. tedspe said, on September 30, 2012 at 10:04 am

    And twin, you beat me to the Conrad Brooks’ jokes. Well played, sir

  16. twinfan1 said, on September 30, 2012 at 10:15 am

    I see the regular refs are already in replacement form..

  17. Flavor said, on September 30, 2012 at 10:36 am

    Blade– I fucked up–left in a rush and forgot to snap a group photo

  18. twinfan1 said, on September 30, 2012 at 10:42 am

    Hey! It’s Kapperbow…

  19. ewisco said, on September 30, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    I saw Ray at the Mountain Winery. The story was, to be one of the Ray-lettes, you had to let Ray.

  20. blade3colorado said, on September 30, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Wow! Niners totally dominated the inept Jets.

    • Bozo said, on September 30, 2012 at 1:09 pm

      Not only that it was on TV back here, which makes me happy. Fox cracks me up, because I’m on the East Coast they figure everyone here is interested in a NY game (which worked for me today). What they can’t seem to get is that this part of the East Coast is the South and they don’t care much for dem Northerners around these parts.

  21. blade3colorado said, on September 30, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    Flav, I’m not certain you’re around, but your comment about Beltran and his “curse” on my Flap team is appropriate, as the curse continues . . . I sat the cocksucker today and of course, he goes 2 for 2, going yard twice, 2 runs and 4 RBIs. I am really beginning to dislike Mr. Beltran.

  22. Flavor said, on September 30, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Yeah, it’s funny, you would have been better off if Beltran had jsut gotten hurt the day he was traded to your team.
    Are any of you watching the game? I was listening to the radio and Flemming had a fucking heart attack about Belt *not running* and then getting thrown out at home. Was it as bad as he made it sound? Did K/K give him the same treatment?

    • Bozo said, on September 30, 2012 at 3:03 pm

      Flannery was telling him to go but he went back to tag, by the time he was half way home the ball was waiting for him at the plate.

      • Flavor said, on September 30, 2012 at 3:14 pm

        Like I said, not watching it but following it on my phone, but Timmy’s line looks ok. Yes, he’s given up 3 bombs, but only 4 hits and he’s only walked two. That’s an improvement over his last start, big time

  23. Bozo said, on September 30, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    The X man comes through.

    • Bozo said, on September 30, 2012 at 3:56 pm

      And now Hunter goes hunting

  24. Flavor said, on September 30, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    pretty fantastic comeback, at least the way it looks in the boxscore on my phone

    • Bozo said, on September 30, 2012 at 4:11 pm

      Your phone tells no lies.

  25. Bozo said, on September 30, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    Ball game. 93 Wins. Time to kick some Dodger Dogs to the curb.

    Tick tock, tick tock to the playoffs.

  26. Salty said, on September 30, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    These boys are ready to rock! I love the comeback. Significance of what Pence is doing can’t be overlooked either. Opposing mgr’s will have to think long and hard about walking Posey.

  27. Flavor said, on September 30, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    I’m not sure if I’m going to be able to tolerate the unbridled joy I’m going to feel when we knock the Dodgers out of the playoffs this week……..

  28. Bozo said, on September 30, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    I gotta tell ya Flav, I sure enjoyed that shot with you and the Flapalooza attendees (Flapaloozaers just doesn’t sound right). I wish I would have been there in the flesh, just think of that joke – So a clown walks into a bar (damn that hurt). I could have shared a cab back to the City with Ted, although we probably would’ve gotten kicked out in Daly City.
    Good times.

    • Flavor said, on September 30, 2012 at 6:16 pm

      Shit, I was bummed we didn’t have the 2nd one. We ordered them and they waited patiently on our table and I kept checking for you on Skype. I guess we waited too long. I fucking LOVED that SF Giants straw hat you had (or whatever it was constructed of)

      • Bozo said, on September 30, 2012 at 6:44 pm

        My buddy that had the seats next to me (and bought the rights to my seats when I moved) made it. He also got a pair of overalls with my name embroidered on the back and a corn cob pipe as a going away gift. I had delayed my move so I could go to Opening Day, so he gives me this shit out in the parking lot. Opening day 2008 I wore that stuff into the stadium and had a great time (although giving up those seats was very tough).

        When I went out to see them raise the flag in 2011, I got in touch with my buddy to see if there was any way for him to get me a ticket (some years season ticket holders get a chance to buy OD bleacher seats). He not only saved one of his (with my old seats, now four) but wouldn’t let me pay for it. He said “Johnny, this seat is your birth right. You don’t pay”. Talk about tearing up, I had to chug my beer just to keep it together. I mean I had just traveled 3,000 miles to see the Giants raise the Championship flag, and not only did I get to sit in my old seat but was told I deserved to be there. 2011 went downhill from there (wildfires, floods and the Giants were partied out).
        But 2012 is a whole new year. Knock the Dodger Dogs out and get back to the Ship. Now that’s what I’m talking about.

  29. Bozo said, on September 30, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    Oh yeah – skype a shots during the POs.

  30. tedspe said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    • tedspe said, on September 30, 2012 at 8:52 pm

      Goodnight, gentlemen (question mark)

  31. Macdog said, on September 30, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    Until a few minutes ago, I had no idea how the Giants won, so I turned to the recap on the local Comcast sports site:

    SAN DIEGO (AP) — Pinch hitter Xavier Nady homered off Huston Street to tie the game with one out in the ninth and Hunter Spence hit a go-ahead, two-run shot as the San Francisco Giants rallied to beat the San Diego Padres 7-5 Sunday.

    Who’s this Spence guy? I wanna buy his jersey!

    • zumiee said, on September 30, 2012 at 10:18 pm

      Pence is on the cover of the September issue of Giants magazine. The title is “Hunt For October.” It took me a moment to realize that was a pun.

  32. ferrethead said, on September 30, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    Woo-Hoo!!! (Sorry, been kind of busy today.)

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