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So Whatever Happened to the 5 Worst Hitters I Ever Saw?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on November 12, 2012

I did a super light google search this morning. Rikkert Fanyete was hired in 2008 to coach the Dutch team The L&D Amsterdam Pirates. He was fired after one season.

When I did a search for *skip James mlb player* I just got a bunch of links that were titled “Pirates to Skip James McDonald’s  Next Start”.

Joe Pettini was easy to find. Per wikipedia:

“Pettini stayed with the Cardinals as a coach after his playing career ended in 1988. He started out as a manager with the rookie-level Hamilton franchise in 1989, then moved up the system, managing the Class A St. Petersburg franchise in 1990, the Class AA Little Rock affiliate from 1991 to 1993, and Class AAA Louisville from 1994 to 1996, where he managed the Redbirds to the 1995 American Association championship. Pettini compiled an overall minor-league won-loss record fo 475–569.

In 1997 Pettini was promoted to minor league field coordinator for the St. Louis Cardinals organization, where he remained until 2002. As coordinator, he was responsible for organizing the spring training schedules for up to 200 Cardinal farmhands every spring, as well as making decisions on what levels Cardinal prospects were sent to, and coaching those prospects during the minor league season.

Pettini stayed with the Cardinals as a coach after his playing career ended in 1988. He started out as a manager with the rookie-level Hamilton franchise in 1989, then moved up the system, managing the Class A St. Petersburg franchise in 1990, the Class AA Little Rock affiliate from 1991 to 1993, and Class AAA Louisville from 1994 to 1996, where he managed the Redbirds to the 1995 American Association championship. Pettini compiled an overall minor-league won-loss record fo 475–569.

In 1997 Pettini was promoted to minor league field coordinator for the St. Louis Cardinals organization, where he remained until 2002. As coordinator, he was responsible for organizing the spring training schedules for up to 200 Cardinal farmhands every spring, as well as making decisions on what levels Cardinal prospects were sent to, and coaching those prospects during the minor league season.

Joe Pettini and his wife Barbara were married in 1981. They had daughter Amy in 1983 and son Joseph in 1987. He attended Brooke High School. Joe and his family now reside inBethany, West Virginia.”

Eli Whiteside and Rajai Davis, you already know about…..

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  1. PawlieKokonuts said, on November 12, 2012 at 9:22 am

    Per Wiki:

    Donald Franklin Taussig is a former Major League Baseball outfielder. He played all or part of three seasons in the majors: 1958 for the San Francisco Giants, 1961 for the St. Louis Cardinals, and 1962 for the Houston Colt .45s.

    He was born in New York, not true of many MLB players. It says he is 80.

    Remember, Flappers, I only remember him because I recalled him making the last out of a nine-run ninth in 1958 against the Cards. We lost 11-10. My remembrance is not meant to be cruel. I can’t help it. BUT, do I track him down and call him and interview him? I would only do it if I could be fairly confident of getting a chuckle out of him.

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on November 12, 2012 at 9:32 am

      Getting interesting: Taussig is mentioned as one of the small fraternity of Jewish players, wrote a book when he was 76, ran a squash club and taught it for 20 years in Westchester County, NY, and now teaches batting in Jupiter, Florida! Apparently he was also one of a very small number of players denied retirement benefits retroactively in 1980. I’m on it.

    • Alleykat said, on November 12, 2012 at 11:28 am

      Hope he didn’t make all 3 outs in that inning,cause that would have been cruel…

      • PawlieKokonuts said, on November 12, 2012 at 11:52 am

        I was afraid to ask and you raise an ominous point. Must check games of April 1958, Seals Stadium, vs. Pirates. Baseball-reference.com or other.

  2. Bozo said, on November 12, 2012 at 9:34 am

    From wiki
    Philip Robert James (born October 21, 1949 in Elmhurst, Illinois), better known as Skip James, is a former American Major League Baseball player. He played in the minor leagues before a brief stint with the San Francisco Giants, and then played in Japan for the Yokohama Taiyo Whales.
    James attended Shawnee Mission North High School, and then played football and baseball at Kansas University, graduating in 1971.He played in the Pacific Coast League for eight years and was finally drafted in 1977 by the San Francisco Giants;he made his debut on September 12, 1977. He played for the Giants for four months as a pinch-hitter (hitting a game-winning two-run single in September against the Los Angeles Dodgers[1]) before they sent him back to the minors.[3] He played for the Vancouver Canadians in 1979, and in 1980 left the United States to play in Japan for the Yokohama Taiyo Whales, besides Félix Millán.

    In 1982, he was hired as a graduate assistant coach at Kansas,and worked there as an assistant coach in 1983 and 1984 as well

  3. PawlieKokonuts said, on November 12, 2012 at 10:15 am

    Well, I just got off the phone with Don Taussig. (I feel bad about putting him on the list. Maybe I’ll delete it.) He teaches batting. And he remembered the incident. Announcers and others had never let him forget it. But it was a very spirited conversation, mostly about fast hands and the art of hitting. Cool.

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on November 12, 2012 at 10:23 am

      …the rest will be in my book. Gotta leave some on the table, to tease readers.

  4. Flavor said, on November 12, 2012 at 11:00 am

    that is awesome, Pawlie. Was he surprised? How did you introduce yourself?

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on November 12, 2012 at 11:51 am

      …only moderately surprised…I gave my name and told him I was writing a book about my life as a Giants fan and related that game. Was I correct in my recollection from childhood and did he recall it? Oh yeah. One at-bat.

  5. blade3colorado said, on November 12, 2012 at 11:53 am

    Affeldt and Gmen close to a 3 year deal.

  6. Salty said, on November 12, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    I’m didn’t think they would sign Affeldt, but shouldn’t be surprised knowing the value G’s place on pitching, Wilson’s status and Runzler hasn’t shown he can do the job. So true you can never have too much pitching. And they should be flush.

  7. twinfan1 said, on November 12, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    He’s as valuable as any reliever on the staff, IMO. I thought he’d be re-signed. Moderately surprised it will be 3 years.

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on November 12, 2012 at 3:01 pm

      I agree, for two reasons: he gets righties AND lefties out and he can go long. Third reason: smart with heart.

    • Salty said, on November 12, 2012 at 4:02 pm

      I thought the 3rd yr 21m might be a bit much is all.

      Now Olney says Affeldt deal will be 3 yrs 18m…cool.

  8. blade3colorado said, on November 12, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    I indicated it was the numero uno priority . . . No one has a relief corps like we have, i.e., our lefties make the defining difference in my opinion.

  9. zumiee said, on November 12, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    We don’t mention Chris Haft much. He’s a pretty solid reporter for MLB.com. He’s their Giants’ beat guy, I guess. On my cellphone earlier today, I read a real long article by him about the 20-year anniversary of the Giants being sold to the Magowan group, instead of moving to Tampa. In the article he looks at keys to the Giants success in the last 20 years, and gives a nice overall view. Nothing earth-shatteringly new in the article; just a nice solid job. The Giants are covered by a good crew: Baggs, Henry S., the Merc, Haft, and some others.
    And The Flap brings it ALL together. We are the place where it really comes together well. The Flap is so superior to something like McCovey Chronicles; it ain’t even close.

  10. zumiee said, on November 12, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    Sale of Giants in ’92 paved way for renaissance

    Club marks 20-year anniversary of acquisition by Magowan-led investor group

    By Chris Haft / MLB.com

    SAN FRANCISCO — Anniversaries can simply mark the passage of time. Or they can symbolize something deeper.
    Come Saturday, 20 years will have passed since owners of National League franchises voted to approve the sale of the San Francisco Giants to an investor group led by Peter Magowan. This was a dramatic event, since Giants owner Bob Lurie had agreed to sell the team to a group that would move it to Tampa-St. Petersburg. Favoring franchise stability, Major League Baseball gave Magowan and his loyalists — including Larry Baer, now the club’s president and chief executive officer — just enough time to engineer a competitive offer that would keep the Giants in the City by the Bay.

    Now look at the Giants. They’ve won two World Series in three years. They’ve sold out 165 consecutive regular-season games at AT&T Park — the replacement for Candlestick Park, the Giants’ previous home, which they needed for the franchise to survive. By any measure, they’ve established themselves as a model organization.

    The 20-year mark of the Giants’ renaissance isn’t just a round number. Given the team’s success, this is an anniversary that resonates. Following is a list of 20 steps that brought the Giants from where they were in 1992 to the lofty perch they occupy today.

    1. Motivation
    Obviously, nothing would have been possible without the agreement to keep the team in San Francisco. But it was the drive behind the Magowan-led purchase that started it all. Magowan grew up in New York rooting for the Giants and still keenly felt the “devastation” that resulted when they and the Dodgers moved to California following the 1957 season. Having moved to San Francisco and maintained his allegiance to the Giants, Magowan had served on the club’s board of directors for 11 years when he resigned to try to keep the team in place. “It was a painful sort of thing to do,” Magowan said recently. “But I felt, and Larry Baer felt, that it was something we had to do.”

    2. Barry Bonds
    Signing Bonds, who had won two of the previous three NL Most Valuable Player Awards, helped the Giants immeasurably. He didn’t hoist the Giants from a 72-90 finish in 1992 to 103-59 in 1993 all by himself. But as the best player in the game, his impact was undeniable. The six-year, $43.75 million contract the Giants gave Bonds seemed exorbitant at the time. In retrospect, it was a bargain.

    3. Dusty Baker
    Soliciting an avalanche of advice after taking over the Giants, Magowan said that he repeatedly heard, “Whatever you do, hire an experienced manager.” He responded by hiring Baker, whose managerial experience was limited to an Arizona Fall League stint with the Scottsdale Scorpions. Baker proceeded to win 840 games with the Giants, more than any other manager since the club moved to San Francisco in 1958. He also was elected NL Manager of the Year three times with the Giants. Moreover, his relentlessly positive style hastened the franchise’s rebirth. “We couldn’t have had a better person than Dusty Baker as manager for that period of time,” Baer said. “He helped redefine baseball and this franchise in San Francisco.”

    4. 1993
    The Giants reintroduced themselves to San Francisco with a wildly successful season, though they finished second in the NL West, one game behind Atlanta. Their 103 wins was a franchise-best for a 162-game campaign (they also won 103 in 1962, but that included two victories in a three-game playoff with the Dodgers). Bonds took home the NL MVP Award with a stupendous year (.336 batting average, 46 homers, 123 RBIs), John Burkett and Bill Swift won 22 and 21 games, respectively, and a record 2,606,354 flocked to Candlestick. The Giants conveyed the sense to fans that they weren’t just happy to be here.

    5. Brian Sabean
    Sabean spent four years as an assistant general manager and player personnel director before ascending to the GM role at the end of the 1996 season. According to Magowan, then-GM Bob Quinn willingly stepped down so the Giants could keep Sabean in the organization. “I was concerned that we would lose Brian, because he was so good,” Magowan said. Sabean’s current status as the Major Leagues’ longest-tenured GM, the club’s 1,392-1,199 record under his watch and the latest round of ring-sizing speak for themselves.

    6. Continuity
    Sabean’s presence reflects the stability of the Giants’ leadership. In the last 20 years, they have had two general managers, three field managers (Baker, Felipe Alou and Bruce Bochy), three chief executive officers (Magowan, Bill Neukom and Baer) and essentially the same core ownership group, though some shareholders have come and gone. Similar stability can be seen within Sabean’s group of top assistants and Bochy’s coaching staff. This maintains the Giants’ overall consistency in approach and philosophy and sharpens the organization’s focus.

    7. Tolerating Candlestick
    Giants management wasn’t content to cruise until a new ballpark could be built. Following the example of the Cleveland Indians, who assembled a perennial contender as they prepared to move into Jacobs Field in 1994, the Giants posted a 265-222 record from 1997-99, their final three years at Candlestick. That span featured a NL West title in 1997, which made the Giants the fourth team to win its division after finishing last in the prior season.

    8. Campaign strategy
    The Giants’ four failed attempts to convince voters to approve a publicly-financed ballpark were easy to interpret. Magowan and the club could win at the ballot box only if the Giants vowed to pay for their own home. “Our research showed that 75 percent of the fans wanted the Giants to be in a different ballpark than Candlestick,” Baer said. “But 75 percent of the voters were not willing to pay for one. So our only route was to do it privately.” Support from Mayor Willie Brown helped the Giants’ cause and contrasted starkly with previous elections, when various local politicians opposed ballpark measures. “Yes on B” passed by a 2-to-1 margin in 1996.

    9. The ’97 season
    The ballpark initiative had been passed, but, as mentioned above, fans needed to know that the Giants were trying. That proof came in the form of the ’97 division title, the team’s first postseason berth since 1989. “The fans had hope that not only could there be a better tomorrow, but also that we could create an exciting today,” Baer said. The season’s signature moment was Brian Johnson’s 12th-inning homer that beat the Dodgers in a crucial September game.

    10. Having it both ways
    The Giants faced looming skepticism. No team, it was said, could privately finance a ballpark and have enough money left to build a winning club. The Giants still pay approximately $20 million annually in debt service. But the momentum the ballclub generated from its final years at Candlestick, combined with the investors’ faith in the front office, proved essential. San Francisco averaged 95 wins per year in its first five seasons at the new park.

    11. Eternal bliss
    The skeptics wouldn’t be silenced easily. They said that the honeymoon between the Giants and their fans would end. Said Magowan, “People would say, ‘This is a football town. It’s not a baseball town. You’re never going to fill up the park. You’re still going to have 18,000 people on a Monday night against the Expos.'” Thirteen years have passed; the Giants have exceeded three million in home paid attendance in all but two of those years.

    12. Homegrown building block
    During Bonds’ heyday, the Giants parted with multiple Draft picks as compensation for signing free agents who ideally would complement the slugging left fielder. They did retain the 25th pick in the opening round of the 2002 First-Year Player Draft, which they used to select right-hander Matt Cain from Houston High School in Germantown, Tenn. Cain proved to be not only a significant pick, but also a symbolic one: In the same year that the Bonds era crested with the club’s only World Series appearance of his tenure, the Giants took the initial step toward their next Fall Classic trip by obtaining their future pitching ace.

    13. The next leader
    The Giants took another step toward their current success by hiring Bruce Bochy to succeed Alou as manager following the 2006 season. San Francisco finished 143-181 in Bochy’s first two years with the club; since then, San Francisco has reeled off four consecutive winning seasons. Baer recalled Bochy’s interview with him and Magowan for the Giants’ job: “What I saw then is what you see now: an understated, low-ego but confident baseball man. He was and is somebody that is always thinking about the greater good, meaning the team. And he’s incredibly fair in the way he goes about doing it.”

    14. Three in a row
    From 2006-08, the Giants’ first-round Draft selections were, in order, right-hander Tim Lincecum, left-hander Madison Bumgarner and catcher Buster Posey. Each has become a pillar of the franchise. No other team drafted a succession of first-rounders during that stretch who have made a similar, immediate impact. The only possible exception are the Tampa Bay Rays, who selected third baseman Evan Longoria and left-hander David Price in 2006-07.

    15. More on Lincecum
    Though Lincecum faces an uncertain future as a potential free agent after next season, he’s already firmly established as one of the most important performers in Giants history. His first year with the Giants coincided with Bonds’ last; fans already were seeking a new “face of the franchise” even while Bonds remained an active player. Lincecum provided that face, along with hope for the future. He fulfilled that promise with his two NL Cy Young Awards and an outstanding 2010 postseason. His dominant relief efforts in last month’s postseason illuminated his aura while reviving fans’ (and maybe even a few teammates’) faith in him.

    16. More on Posey
    Now it’s Posey’s turn to serve as the unofficial face of the franchise. More importantly, Posey has emerged as an everyday presence in the lineup while helping the organization prove that its Minor League system can develop more than just pitchers. It’s no coincidence that the Giants won the World Series in each of Posey’s two full seasons with them (the extensive left leg injuries he sustained last year sidelined him after May 25). He’s that influential.

    17. In the background
    Veterans such as Bengie Molina, Matt Morris, Randy Winn, Rich Aurilia and Randy Johnson won no World Series rings with the Giants (actually, Molina picked one up in 2010, though he didn’t finish the season with San Francisco). But their influence on younger players was unmistakable. Johnson, a future Hall of Famer who won his 300th game in a Giants uniform, was particularly helpful. While most veterans helped less-experienced players cope with adversity, Johnson advised Lincecum and a handful of others about handling success, which can be more challenging.

    18. Absence of panic
    This has been evident for years. When it became plain in 2005 that Bonds’ injuries would sideline him for an extended period, first baseman J.T. Snow said, “What are we supposed to do? Cancel the season?” The faces in the clubhouse have changed, but that attitude remains. Relatively little seems to bother the Giants. That partly explained their division-winning surge past San Diego down the stretch in 2010, as well as the aplomb they displayed this year while weathering Brian Wilson’s season-ending elbow injury and left fielder Melky Cabrera’s suspension. Those victories in six consecutive elimination games in last month’s postseason were no fluke.

    19. Preserving the pitching
    Sabean’s decision last offseason to retain as much of the pitching staff as possible ensured the Giants’ success. Cain signed a six-year contract, Bumgarner received a five-year package, and Lincecum, Ryan Vogelsong and Javier Lopez each got two-year deals. In Cain’s case, he would have entered this offseason as a free agent, which would have created anxiety within the Giants’ inner sanctum.

    20. You out there
    The Giants truly appreciate the energy and enthusiasm of the AT&T Park patrons. “They bring it every night,” Vogelsong said. The fans’ sophistication rose to unprecedented heights in Game 1 of the World Series vs. the Tigers. Watching for lapses from Detroit ace Justin Verlander like sharks wait for blood, they buzzed when Tigers pitching coach Jeff Jones visited the mound (immediately before Pablo Sandoval hit his second of three homers). Then they roared when Danny Worth batted for Verlander in the fifth inning.

    Moreover, the sellout streak is nothing short of remarkable.

    “Without their support,” Magowan said of the fans, “we never could have had the success that we had.”

    • PawlieKokonuts said, on November 12, 2012 at 1:52 pm

      Great stuff. Thank you for sharing, as they allegedly say in 12-Step meetings.

      • zumiee said, on November 12, 2012 at 2:01 pm

        Hey Pawlie, you were there!- I love this line from Haft, talking about the Giants fans there: “….in Game 1 of the World Series vs. the Tigers. Watching for lapses from Detroit ace Justin Verlander like sharks wait for blood,”

      • PawlieKokonuts said, on November 12, 2012 at 2:20 pm

        I know, I saw that line and did the head nod. Dirtrocks and his dad should too. And a gazillion others.

    • Bozo said, on November 12, 2012 at 4:57 pm

      One of my most favorite things that the Giants ever gave me was a print that had replica tickets (with my own seat numbers) for the last game at the Stick and the First at Pac Bell. The last game in 92 I cried and cheered that team on the final day. The team was kind of dazed and after realizing the team was going to move and yet the fans were giving them a standing O, did the first lap around the field that I can remember. The fact that they stayed made that 93 season so magical for me (well that and winning 103 games). The last game at the the Stick where they flew Home Plate to Pac Bell – unbelievable. My buddy Stan (grounds crew at the time) running out to LF to pull down the number one (days until they moved) FANTASTIC. Oh yeah, the game after it was reported that the Magowan group had bought the team, Magowan came into the stadium with a standing O for him.

      Z – You brought tears to my eyes just bringing up that time.

      • blade3colorado said, on November 12, 2012 at 5:29 pm

        Heartfelt post John. I liked it.

      • PawlieKokonuts said, on November 12, 2012 at 6:07 pm

        very awesome post

  11. snarkk said, on November 12, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Trout and Harper win AL and NL ROY awards, Trout unanimously #1. Cespedes 2nd, but he was not even given a vote on 3 of the 28 ballots, while Trout and Darvish votes appeared on all ballots = 28/28. I don’t see how anyone would not even give a 2nd or 3rd place vote to Cespedes. That is nonsense…

    • James said, on November 13, 2012 at 10:54 am

      The AL MVP vote breakdown will be very interesting.

  12. James said, on November 13, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Snarkk, thanks for the review of Gaumenkitzel. Will have to check it out.


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