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Is There Anything Left to Do?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on December 5, 2012

So is it just strippers and steaks for the rest of these Winter Meetings for Sabes?

Talk about nothing left to do. Maybe another bullpen arm? Or a left field compliment to The White Shark?

Blockbuster trade?

When you go *2 in 3* there isn’t too much you have to do to get your team right. Yesterday, Sabean won Baseball America’s *Executive of the Year*. Hardly surprising, but I can’t find even a blurb about it at the Giants website…….


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  1. zumiee said, on December 5, 2012 at 6:34 am

    And some Giants players won GIBBYs, whatever the heck those are.

    The Giants can go platoony with leftfield. Blanco + 4th outfielder + Belt (when Posey plays firstbase.)

    • zumiee said, on December 5, 2012 at 6:38 am

      A big factor would be Belt having the breakthrough year that we’re expecting from him, and Pence having a solid season.
      The playoff lineup would be just fine:

      • zumiee said, on December 5, 2012 at 6:42 am

        There’s enough offense there, plus the defense was off-the-charts excellent by the latter part of last season.

      • chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 7:45 am

        I like that line-up…

        Get it done with Theriot and when they play in a Junior Circuit yard, Theriot can be DH (worked pretty damned good in game four of the World Series 😉 ).

  2. paulinasia said, on December 5, 2012 at 7:24 am

    Yeah, huh, enjoy Nashville, gentlemen, and yes, probably a little fortification in a couple of places in the coming weeks, but really, I’m enjoying the relative stability from this year’s champs into next year.. much more so than I felt after 2010. It was a really enjoyable team and it fucking won the World Series again…. I’m psyched about the Pagan and Scutaro signings because IMO, one big factor in the team’s success was the keystone factor: up the middle, C to CF, SS and 2B. I’d guess this keystone sees the majority of action, and Posey, Pagan, Crawford, and Scutaro were flawless in the post-season. Lock in a good keystone, that’s half the battle.

    • blade3colorado said, on December 5, 2012 at 7:43 am

      Good post Paul. Agree.

  3. willedav said, on December 5, 2012 at 7:26 am

    Funny I was thinking about throwing up the same type of thread, as in “What the F else do you want?”
    Sure, no one expects Scut to hit like he did, but there seems to be plenty enough talent and depth btw Arias theriot and Hector to cover rest for Pablo and Posey. No season will be without issues, but it’s hard to imagine there would be more than what team has fought through last two years.
    Crawford and Belt are everyday guys, and Blanco and whomever (the RH bat with pop we can’t seem to live without, lol) in LF, and hopefully Pence proves $13 mil arb worthy.
    Lincecum, if he wants to stay here and sign another contract, has to get down to business, but the rest of the staff is solid as a rock well coached and well managed.
    It’s everyone else that has to worry about how to take SF down.

    • chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 7:44 am

      Yeah, I couldn’t find anything on the Giant’s site on Sabes getting Exec of the Year, but here is a piece I read at the Chron:


      Theriot is a free agent. I have heard that there is a good chance he will be back. Between he and Arias they will provide good depth in the IF.

      I posted this last night, and many of you may laugh, but I won’t be too surprised if B-Weezy is back. I know he was initially all butt-hurt when the Giants didn’t tender him, but I’m not sure he is going to get anything better than what the Giants wanted to offer (an incentive-laden contract).

      • blade3colorado said, on December 5, 2012 at 7:47 am

        Chi, I said the same thing about Wilson coming back. Something to the effect, he needs to take a deep breath, and rid himself of any anger he might have about the Giants not signing him at the “gazillion” dollar contract he wanted. The incentive laden deal may be the only one out there for him . . . I hope he smells the coffee and recognizes that he will be more comfortable here than elsewhere.

      • chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 8:59 am

        Yep…saw your comments, Steve, and I agree. Again…do not be too surprised if B-Weezy is back.

  4. blade3colorado said, on December 5, 2012 at 7:34 am

    Just about out the door to the gym, but I was wondering what our payroll is at this moment? I know a few contracts came off the books. I guess my point is – perhaps Sabes isn’t done? Flav’s comment, “Blockbuster trade?” isn’t ludicrous, especially when you consider that we haven’t added anyone of significance outside of the roster we had last year. Anywho, I think Sabes can juggle 3 (proverbial) balls – hookers/strippers, steaks, and trades, while at the Winter meetings. We shall see . . .

    • ewisco said, on December 5, 2012 at 7:52 am

      Sabes is sick and stayed home. he’s been phoning in to the meetings.

      • eddacker said, on December 5, 2012 at 9:20 am

        I’m surprised no one noticed that Evans was getting all the air time. Sabes has never been a big winter meetings guy.

  5. denniszu said, on December 5, 2012 at 8:42 am

    There’s only 1 place to find a winning, unselfish, team effort, funhouse, full of adoring fans where a player is treated as much a family as a commodity…. So, B W and Ryan, should really think hard about where their greatest appreciation will come from…. and most likely another WS trophy.

    • chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 8:56 am

      I agree, Dennis. I continue to hear (even after Scoot’s deal was announced last night) that A) the Giants wanted to bring Theriot back, and B) there was a good chance of that happening.

      I also mentioned last night and today that I would not be surprised to see B-Weezy back…he fits in that 140+ mil budget if they are currently sitting around 135 mil.

      There was talk of adding a RH OFer to platoon with Blanco. It certainly seems that Ludwick, Swisher, or even Ross won’t fit this year’s budget, now. So, will be interesting to see if they can add a “decent” RH OFer.

  6. chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 8:51 am

    Baer said the payroll will go “North” of 140. Not sure it is there, yet, as they haven’t finalized numbers for all the AE guys (and there are quite a few).

    I could not find the article where the current salaries, and estimated AE salaries were listed, but I did find this on MLBTRs…

    The AE guys add up to about 32 mil (this excludes Wilson-non tender, and Hensley-free agent).

    The payroll was at 83.3 committed before any new contracts (Affeldt, Pagan, Scoots, etc.).

    So, 83+32+6 (Affeldt) + 7 (Pagan) + 7 Scoots = 135 mil (these are rough estimates)

    So, that leaves little room for a ulitlity guy (Theriot) and a RH OFer (Ross was being discussed again), etc.

    I don’t see the payroll going a lot over 140, so with that said, I don’t see any “Blockbusters” or big signings.

    Scroll to 5th article (Offseason Outlook: San Francisco Giants:


  7. Rich said, on December 5, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Things are falling into place nicely. But, they need to add at least one new face to the mix. I still think they need to add someone in left. Someone right handed with a little pop. I would look forward to spring training, even more, if we had just one new face.

    • chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 9:46 am

      Well, Sabes was saying while the Pagan and Scoots signings were still in play that they were looking for a RH OFer (and not as a CFer/lead-off guy, but as a guy to play in LF). So, if they are at approximately 135 mil now, and look to add Theriot as a utility guy, there will not be a ton of cash for an OFer. It certainly will not be the “Big Bat” that many have asked for since like, well, the beginning of time.

  8. eddacker said, on December 5, 2012 at 9:21 am

    I heard the mid $140s after all the AE signings are done.

  9. eddacker said, on December 5, 2012 at 9:22 am

    Dave Brubeck, 91. Jazz was all the better for him.

    • chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 9:50 am

      Never a big jazz fan, but certainly appreciated what he brought to the table. I went through a period of being into the jazz fusion stuff (Chick Corea and Return to Forever with Stanley Clark and Al DiMeola, Bella Fleck, Billy Cobham, etc.)…

      • blade3colorado said, on December 5, 2012 at 10:14 am

        Billy Cobham was one of my favorite drummers. One of the first drummers to play open-handed lead. I loved his Spectrum album.

      • chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 10:24 am

        Yeah, I lost a lot of my vinyl over the years, but I used to have that (Spectrum) on album…did not know that he was one of the pioneers in open-handed drumming. The things you learn on this blog…when you think you’re here to discuss baseball… 🙂

  10. Salty said, on December 5, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Does look like they won’t be a lot to argue (and bitch) about with the lineup pretty set. But I’m confident we’ll find something. 🙂 Maybe there will be spirited battle for the RH platoon job in LF. They are looking for a low cost vet. Austin Kearns anyone?

    • chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 10:59 am

      Yeah, LMAO…we can all piss and moan about who Sabe and crew pick-up as that platoon RH bat in LF.

      Hey Salt – there is a Salty that calls into KNBR regulary…is that you?

      • Salty said, on December 5, 2012 at 11:13 am

        No, never. Imposter!

      • eddacker said, on December 5, 2012 at 11:45 am

        yeah, imagine the salty one having something to say . . .

      • Alleykat said, on December 5, 2012 at 12:23 pm

        Yeah what’s some Salty clown that lives in Fresno/Clovis area.He is always ranting about the Giants and never makes any sense.

  11. unca_chuck said, on December 5, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Funny, one of the rare times I listened to KNBR (last year), someone called in and said his name was Twinfan.

    It wasn’t.

    Yeah, not much to complain about this offseason. This time around, the team sure feeals a lot more solid than the 2010 gang. That team had a lot of older guys who were making their final contributions to the game and the team (Burrell, Uribe, Renteria, Sanchez, Huff, and Ross [to a certain extent]) all were pretty much toast after that WS. This time around, the only grizzled vet is Scooter. And he’s a young 37 . . .

  12. eddacker said, on December 5, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Scooter seems to be the opposite of Sanchez. His body type just works, has good conditioning and doesn’t need to stress or strain to get there.

  13. chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Someone get Sabes and Evans on the horn…WTF…why haven’t we heard anything about a RH bat for platooning in LF!!!

    • eddacker said, on December 5, 2012 at 11:54 am

      maybe Sabes shoulld stay away from the Winter Meetings more often.
      funny, today was the Autumn Statement for Parliament and yet it is Winter Meeting for MLB.
      tomorrow is the Rule 5 draft and we have some great ears to the ground, wonder what the G-men will find/do?

  14. eddacker said, on December 5, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    I am thinking I confused my personal pronoun, again.
    he, him, them, it, you, us
    which sounds a lot like laughing, coughing or being too cozy.

  15. zumiee said, on December 5, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    MLB network has lots of live coverage from the baseball meetings, but sometimes there’s not a whole lot going on.
    Will Grienke go to the Dodgers? That’s one of the big questions.

    • eddacker said, on December 5, 2012 at 1:04 pm

      They certainly have the money. I have been a Greinke believer for a while and he has bounced around a bit. both his current team and the dogers would do well with him as a #2 starter. I do think his value is a bit over-rated. He has had an injury time out once. But I do love the way he pitches when he is on.
      going to the dogers makes me a little nervous as the team is trying to build a great hitting team and Zack would give them some pitching power. With the Lincecum question mark it means some competition if they get him and he performs.

    • chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 2:12 pm

      FUCK the Dodgers…

  16. Alleykat said, on December 5, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    They may not bring Theriot back.He could be Fontenot out of hereCould look at both Panik&Noonan who was just added to the 40 man roster.Noonan bats LH to compliment Scoots RH bat,just sayin,probably won’t happen but you never know.

    • eddacker said, on December 5, 2012 at 1:12 pm

      Brown is not coming up anytime soon. he may have the defense, but he doesn’t have OBP or BA and surely no power, not even triples alley power, yet. My guess is Panik is similar; no Trout fireworks in the minors.

    • chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 2:13 pm

      In case something happens to Scoots (or MudBug), etc. I want a proven vet to step in as the utility guy, and also a guy who can put on a good AB. I just don’t see Panik or Noonan being that guy out of ST. They “may” get a look when rosters expand…but I don’t see either on the 25 out of ST.

  17. eddacker said, on December 5, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    speaking in tongues from a drama I am watching on BBC
    “all men are the same when you unbutton trousers; we are just honey for the sting”
    which reminds me of baseball. Any team can put together a good game. 162 freakin’ grabs your ass and leaves you gasping for air. No telling where the honey comes from then. Unless it is each other, the team or some totally driven love of the game. Some brilliant spirit of success.

  18. eddacker said, on December 5, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Which is my next posting topic: “the spirit of success”

    • chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 2:38 pm

      DOH! I thought it was going to be “Talking in Tongues” or “How to Get the Most out of Your Haiku.”

  19. blade3colorado said, on December 5, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    I was just reading the following excerpt from an article on the Giants web site:

    “The deal could be considered a mild risk, given Scutaro’s age (37). But earlier Tuesday, when asked if he thought Scutaro could remain productive while approaching age 40, Giants vice president of baseball operations Bobby Evans compared him to Omar Vizquel, the former Giants shortstop who played 60 games this year at 45.

    “He has a little different body build, but he reminds people of the player that Vizquel was,” Evans said of Scutaro, who played a career-high 156 games in 2012. “This guy’s a hard worker and he has a pretty good history of being healthy.”

    Related to Evans comment, I was personally floored when Scutaro bounced back from that Holliday slide at 2nd base. Anyone else, they would have grabbed some pine. He was obviously hurt, yet continued to play in that game (although, I think he eventually came out) and then played in the rest of the league series, as well as the World Series. Actually, saying he “played” is an unbelievable misnomer on my part . . . More appropriate to say that he continued to be “outstanding.” I have no doubt he will continue to be money next year and hopefully for the duration of his contract. This dude is wired differently then most athletes and it would be anathema for him not to perform at a high level.

    • Flavor said, on December 5, 2012 at 3:59 pm

      hey are you still considering doing an NFBC league this year? If so, let me know and I’ll register in it to just so you’ll know someone you’re playing against. Plus, we would get to do a live draft vs each other…….

      • blade3colorado said, on December 5, 2012 at 5:18 pm

        Yes, absolutely. I may be out of the country for the draft (I’m seriously thinking about circumnavigating the World, going to New Zealand, Australia, Nepal, India, Turkey, Greece and Italy). I already called my accountant about a tax filing extension. Hopefully, my Samsung tablet is able to do a live draft. Question – does the site have a “test” feature similar to Yahoo and other sites to check your pc or tablet out? Also, do you need the money up front or can I take care of that via credit card?

      • eddacker said, on December 6, 2012 at 6:54 am

        In what world is NZ – Asia – Greece circumnavigating?
        HI – PNG – Au – China – Rus – Greenland – Seattle
        now THAT is circumnavigating

  20. Flavor said, on December 5, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    A little surprised at all the interest in Nate. He didn’t do much as a Philly, they non-tendered him and now like 7 teams are after him. He rejected an offer from the Orioles yesterday so they went back to McClouth for 1 year/2mil. So you have to think that they offered Nate M less than they offered Nate S and he still shot down what was probably more than 3 million.
    We’ll see where he lands, I guess it’s good to be Nate these days. His brother, not so much……
    Here’s a link to a $125 league with all the draft dates (thus, leagues) on the right side of the page…..

  21. zumiee said, on December 5, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    MLB network says the Giants are showing interest in Swisher for LF.

    • Flavor said, on December 5, 2012 at 4:03 pm

      hmmmm. Tough one. I wouldn’t be down on it, not that excited either. I think someone else is going to go after him with more dough, though

    • snarkk said, on December 5, 2012 at 4:44 pm

      Per his history, he’ll give you around .250 or .260, with decent pop, but he’s a SwitchH that probably gets a lot of his pop at Yanks Stadium LHed with that short RF porch. No such thing at ATT, lots of his slg. might be caught in RF and RCenter at ATT. Probably overpriced for what the Giants need, and his offensive stats would not be as good as from NY. Defensively, I think he’s OK, nothing special, or somebody correct me. He’s 32. I’d say pass at the high price he’d get. What about Nady on the cheap for a RH batter in left field? He looked good for a while, then got hurt and disappeared….

      • Macdog said, on December 5, 2012 at 5:31 pm

        I always assumed Swisher hit most of his HRs at the Bronx Bandbox, but last year he hit 11 at home and 13 on the road. He hits well enough during the regular season, but the postseason is something else: a .169 average in 154 ABs, and Yanks fans (and perhaps the Yanks themselves) got tired of his annual playoff fade. Seems to be a good clubhouse guy, too, but I don’t figure the Giants are gonna lay out even more bucks for Swisher after spending all that dough on Affeldt, Pagan and Scutaro.

  22. unca_chuck said, on December 5, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    Warranted or not, Swisher reminds me of Byrnsie. A whole lotta hype surrounded by little meat.

  23. unca_chuck said, on December 5, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    If the fricking Flyin’ Hawaiian gets 3/39, Swisher is certainly in that ballpark. No thanks.

    I’m sure Raul Ibanez is still out there. . . .

    I kid, I kid . . .

    • snarkk said, on December 5, 2012 at 5:23 pm

      I assume Pagan and his agent were aware or semi-aware of Victorino and the potential for 3/39 with the RSox. If they weren’t, that news would not make me happy, since Pagan’s getting the same dough for an extra year of service. And Pagan’s one year younger than Vicky. I give Sabes props for that Pagan deal, it looks, looks reasonable in a totally ridiculous market with slim pickens and high demand. That, and you can count on the RSox overpaying after offloading their ship of dud contracts to the Dodgers. If I’m an agent and the RSox are calling, I’m immediately doing handsprings before even talking with them….

  24. blade3colorado said, on December 5, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    I said this the other day, I would be for a trade involving Choo of Cleveland. They want to move him this year before he becomes a free agent next year. His salary is $4.9 million. I have no idea on how we would do it (i.e., who we would trade), but I do know that they are hurting in starting pitching, 1st base, and one of the outfield positions (forgot which one, but it’s either left or right).

  25. paulinasia said, on December 5, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    X. Nady does indeed seem to have disappeared, which surprises me a little since Bochy knew him and seemed to like him. They must know something if his name isn’t even being surfaced as a possible occasional RH bat in LF. Chi and Steve, glad to see the Billy Cobham reference, one of my favs as well and my copy of Spectrum was worn thin by over-play. First marveled at Cobham when I saw Mahavishnu Orchestra at Lincoln Center (loved his completely clear drum kit!), then followed him for years, later even seeing his band (with Jon Scofield on guitar) play in a local high school gymnasium somewhere in New Jersey….

    • blade3colorado said, on December 5, 2012 at 6:12 pm

      Yeah Paul, much like my copy too. I got turned on to both Cobham and Jeff Beck (who was heavily influenced by Cobham) at around the same time while I was in the Air Force. In effect, someone had their music blasting in the barracks room adjacent to mine and I said to myself, “WOW! Who in the fuck is playing that drum solo?” I went next door and the dude was playing Stratus . . . Unfrickingbelievable jam session . . . Here it is:

      • paulinasia said, on December 5, 2012 at 6:13 pm

        Very cool…

      • Bozo said, on December 5, 2012 at 7:59 pm

        In the late 70’s I went down to Northridge to take a drum clinic with Cobham and Louie Bellson. Not sure how much you all know about Bellson, first white drummer for Duke Ellington, Big band drummer, married to Pearl Bailey, invented the double bass drumset and all around nice guy. Anyway at this time he invented the triple bass drumset. Cobham had so much fun with it Louie gave it to him (I think he used it for awhile).

        I’ve got a photo someplace of the three of us (I wasn’t special, they did it for all the participants willing to pay ten bucks or whatever it was), so I’m a longhair with a beard down my chest and I’m talking out the corner of my mouth to Lou (I don’t think I was stoned but man do I look it), before the shot Billy took a bite out of an apple and palmed it during the photo. You can’t see the apple in his hand, the dude has some huge mitts and his arms at the time, fucking guns.

      • chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 9:04 pm

        Bad ass…thanks for sharing, Steve.

      • blade3colorado said, on December 5, 2012 at 9:24 pm

        Bozo and Chi, there is a track on Spectrum called “Quadrant 4” that I loved . . . Fairly certain that you both have heard of it and I know Paul has.

  26. unca_chuck said, on December 5, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    Shit, I’m just bummed I missed Jimmy Thackery playing at the local HS in Auburn.

  27. paulinasia said, on December 5, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    Ya’ll probably saw this, but Bobby Evans said this about re-signing Pagan, Scutaro, and Affeldt: “We have a very special group, and they all showed loyalty in coming back to us and the fans. They could’ve stayed out there and tried to get bigger deals. It’s a tribute to them.” Actually, I think it’s more of a tribute to the team, the fans, the city, the ballpark…… Remember a few years back when all the talk was “free agents won’t come to SF, they don’t want to play here”…. If that ever was true in the first place, Pagan and Scoots returning so quickly negates that. Nice.

  28. Flavor said, on December 5, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Jesus, how bummed would you be if you’re the great Ichiro and you read this tweet from Shea:
    John Shea
    The one-year fit for LF for #SFGiants doesn’t include Ichiro because he’s too much like Blanco, including hitting lefty. #Redundant

  29. unca_chuck said, on December 5, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    Nate the Great is a Cubbie. 1 year, 2.25 mill. He’s pencilled in as their starting RFer.

    Word is he turned down more money from the Yankers. Good for Nate . . .

    • Flavor said, on December 5, 2012 at 7:56 pm

      Nate’s an idiot. he should get all the money he can get. BTW, that deal with the Cubbies has 500K incentives in it………..

    • unca_chuck said, on December 5, 2012 at 8:02 pm

      Fuck the Yankees I don’t blame him for blowing them off.

      • Flavor said, on December 5, 2012 at 8:21 pm

        to go sign with the Cubbies? He clearly doesn’t care about winning. The Yankees are fucked and PROBABLY won’t make the playoffs next year. The Cubbies are eternally fucked.
        And if he was afraid to go play in NY then he’s probably afraid of a lot of other things in pro baseball, like winning………

      • unca_chuck said, on December 5, 2012 at 9:44 pm

        The law of averages says one of these years . . . or decades . . . or centuries . . .

    • Bozo said, on December 5, 2012 at 8:07 pm

      Well their football team is the Bears, bears have cubs and they both live in caves. I think Nate had his reasons for signing with Chicago.

      • Flavor said, on December 5, 2012 at 8:18 pm

        it would be rad if Berger brought back The Cave…….

  30. chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    Not sure if you guys are into the videos and magazines, books, etc. But I watched the WS video last night that I had taped…excellent. I will definitely be buying a copy, and also going to get the Collector’s Edition (8 discs). Price has dropped on that from $79 to $67 on Amazon.

    I’ve picked-up a number of the magazines, and the official World Series Collector’s Edition book. It was $20 and is awesome. Breaks down all the playoff and WS games, just tons of great stuff in it.

    Booked the hotel room for Scottsdale tonight. We’ll be catching games on March 15-17. Cannot fucking wait!

    • zumiee said, on December 5, 2012 at 9:50 pm

      I’ve gotten several of the magazines, including a copy of the World Series program.
      In fact, I bought one of the magazines today! Lindy’s special edition about the Giants’ 2012 season. I bought it at a grocery store today. The magazine is very cool, and of course, all this swag…..
      it’s all about the b-a-s-k-i-n-g. (grin)

      • chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 10:02 pm

        Yep…I got the Lindy one. Got the SI regular, SI commemorative, and one called San Francisco Treat (Rilin Media). But by far the best one is the MLB Commemorative Issue.

        Here is the link on Amazon. Sweet deal for 12 and change. I paid cover price of 20.


        Ordered another Giant lid (standard black with orange bill) and “another” WS shirt (Parade shirt)…too much swag is an oxymoron…

  31. unca_chuck said, on December 5, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    Wash’t sure where you were going with that 1st sentence, but yeah I got the SI commemorative one and the regular issue. Plus something I found at Costco for $5.00. Full of ads and 7 scorecards in the middle.

    • zumiee said, on December 5, 2012 at 9:56 pm

      It turns out people only needed to use 4 of those scorecards. (grin)

  32. unca_chuck said, on December 5, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    You know if they are doing the video with the radio call again?

    • chipower9 said, on December 5, 2012 at 10:12 pm

      Not sure, Chuck, and the description and customer comments on Amazon doesn’t say. I hope the calls are with the radio…fuck those knuckleheads from Fox…won’t even waste time with their names…

      • unca_chuck said, on December 5, 2012 at 10:21 pm

        It’s almost unwatchable hearing the blather.

      • ewisco said, on December 6, 2012 at 7:32 am

        I didn’t listen. I had the radio on and dealt with the video delay. I find it sort of calming to know the outcome before seeing the playing. plus they won in 2010 with me doing it that way so i didn’t want to jinx them 🙂

  33. willedav said, on December 6, 2012 at 7:21 am

    I always thought a warm weather NL central team would be right down Nate’s alley. Even better with Cubs, bc there is zero pressure, at least right now. He can reach fences in most yards in that division and play a decent RF. When he was going well he would spray the ball around the park line to line; if he can put up decent numbers and stay healthy, next contract might have more weight to it or he’s a chip in a deal.
    I’m sure he could have done same thing in NY; maybe he wanted to stay in NL and thought he would get more ABs for Cubs. Hey, maybe he shows them enough he sticks around long enough for them to be good.

  34. chipower9 said, on December 6, 2012 at 8:12 am

    So, I had not even heard Jason Grilli’s name in the mix with the Giants until today. Supposedly we are one of four teams vying for his services (he’s wanting a 3 year deal)…dude was lights-out last year.


    And then I heard that Swisher is still in the mix, too.

    WTF…they going to boost payroll to 160???

  35. unca_chuck said, on December 6, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Shit, when did we draft Grilli? I thought he was late 90s.

    But my mind is, well, you know . . .

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