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Watching the Game After you Know the Outcome of the Game

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on January 28, 2013

We started kicking this around a little bit at the end of the last thread. I’m totally interested in where you all stand on this. One of the main reasons I like sports is that it’s an unknown outcome right up until the very end. Even if you’re watching a movie or a sitcom or whatever, you can usually see the end result coming. But not with sports. That all gets played out in front of you. It’s what keeps us on the edge of our seats. And I’ve just never been interesting in watching games on tape where I know the outcome. I’ve watched *moments* of a video a million times. Cainer’s perfecto. Blanco’s catch in Cainer’s perfecto. I watched Rowand’s catch to save Dirrrty’s no-no probably 30 times……

The one sport I can tolerate watching known outcome replays of  is horse racing. I can watch replays of a horse race all day long. 50 times in a row. I’d be embarrassed to tell you how many times I’ve seen the 2009 Breeder’s Cup Classic. Most of you won’t click on this and if you do you’ll wonder why you did at the end of it (as I’m assuming that most of you don’t care about the sport). Zenyatta is probably my third or 4th favorite horse of all time.  I was at this race, I’ve been to 4 BC’s, but I couldn’t appreciate the magnitude of Trevor Denman’s perfect call as he was drowned out by the loudness of the crowd. But what she did that day was spectacular and I could watch that race 5 million times and never get sick of it. Here it is if you care to partake:

But the world series wins? The Super Bowl wins? I’ve watched all the best parts of it over and over but I couldn’t imagine sitting through an entire game…..

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  1. twinfan1 said, on January 28, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    I like watching the old games. No reason.

  2. unca_chuck said, on January 28, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    Football’s easy. FF thru the commercials, huddles and half time, and you can watch a football game in less than an hour. The ony thing I’ve watched for baseball is parts of Cainer’s perfecto.

  3. unca_chuck said, on January 28, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    Curry sprained his ankle again? Shit

  4. xoot said, on January 28, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    I don’t have a dvr. If I miss a game I miss it. The web has a pretty good library of replays. But occassionally I will watch part of a rebroadcast Giants game on Comcast, to catch my favorite PS moments or something. (It was fun hearing the Giants announcers synched to the Fox video.) Also, purely by chance, I stumbled across two rebroadcast games that I really enjoyed. In both instances, I wondered why the hell they were replaying the games.

    Number one, the Giants were way behind in a game against the dodgers, in L.A. Great. But I happened to tune in just as things started to change so I watched for a while. It turned out to be the Donny Two-Trips game. The Giants played with grit and intensity even when the game seemed lost; when they got their chances, they took em, Bochy included. The dodgers folded completely. The Giants showed the character that was going to take them all the way.

    Number two, the Giants were way ahead, 5-0 or something, in the second or third inning against Houston. Why the hell are they . . . . I thought, and then I realized it was Cain’s Perfecto. Watching the game the second time was, in one way, very easy: I only needed to pay attention to Houston’s ABs. But that turned out to be more enthralling than I expected. I scrutinized every instant of every AB that went to 3-2, and both of Schafer’s crucial AB s (he ripped a liner down the 1B line that was foul by a grain of sand, and he hit a certain deep drive into Blanco’s glove) left me winded.

    Would I watch both those games all the way through, again? Probably not. But they were both really good the second time around.

  5. twinfan1 said, on January 28, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    Well,there are nice things about watching a game in it’s entirety. You can fart around more the second time around.It’s better than highlights because the highlights don’t have the context that a full game does. And if you watch on a plugged in lap top you can set it on the edge of the tub while bathing. When it falls in, it’s sort of like a whirlpool with strobe lights and it cures somnolence.

  6. willedav said, on January 28, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    I don’t watch pregame or post game Giants stuff, tho the post-wrap I sometimes catch on radio, only. I often miss road games that start early, but i”m not going back to watch it afterwards. Other sports either. Zzzzzz.
    As a b-ball coach I have watched videos of my teams play, or full game tapes others have made involving a team I’m going to play where I know the outcome, and I enjoy that quite a bit. There’s always stuff I miss, and sometimes kids do more or less than you think.
    I know parents who tape their kids games, usually only when they are in, and I can’t imagine the kids getting into it much/going over it with parents on hand. We once taped a HS game and replayed it back for the kids while we had a team party, and they generally said stuff like, “Oh man, that’s what we look like?”

  7. twinfan1 said, on January 28, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    Often I watch old games or other things I’ve recorded in the early morning, like 4 A.M. or so. The 2010 clincher is better than getting up, better than a Law and Order repeat,, better than anything I’d do at 4 in the morning. Even for the sixth time. Porn at 4 is too degenerate even for me. And yeah, zzzzzzzzzzzz, can put me back to sleep.
    Xoot, if you have a desktop PC, an available PCI Express slot, and an OS with Windows Media Center, you watch and record TV for about 70 bucks for a good Tuner Card

    • xoot said, on January 29, 2013 at 10:33 am

      That looks pretty good. And I’ll bet I could get one of my kids to set it up so I can record when I’m at work.

  8. dirtnrocksnomo said, on January 28, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    I’ll always watch highlights or the commemorative videos but just can’t sit through full replays. I recorded some of the 2012 post season replays on CSN but never have made the time to watch any of it. Soon they will be overtaken by My Little Pony recordings and have to be deleted anyway. God, what has happened to my life?

    • chipower9 said, on January 29, 2013 at 9:38 am

      My Little Pony…LMAO…I remember those days. Although I never had the problem with my DVR running out of space, as there were no DVRs. But I remember watching Willie Wonka, or other VHS tapes my kids had like a zillion times. Too funny.

  9. blade3colorado said, on January 29, 2013 at 12:51 am

    Once I watch a game, I can’t duplicate the emotion and feeling I had the first time I watched it. That’s just me. I can appreciate others that can watch a game over and over again. I have one exception (as you do Flav) . . . boxing. I can watch fights from any era a gazillion times and not be bored. I especially like fights from the 40s and 50s. Same deal with Ali’s fights, especially when he was young – before his banning – where his speed was 2nd to no one. I also like the 80s – Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Leonard, Benitez, etc. Football, baseball, basketball – I can watch highlights, but not the same game again.

    New post on my blog . . . Two hiking trails I did today.

  10. eddacker said, on January 29, 2013 at 3:47 am

    I am with twin on this. It is relaxing to have the luxury of time to enjoy a game a second time. This is especially do-able with MLB.com that has every game previously played available. It never is the same the second time around and I may FF through some boring bits, but I always see things I did not see during the live broadcast. I can “slo-mo” the interesting/technical bits. In this scenario it is my brain that is going in slow-mo as I study an event of interest with fresh perspective not available during the live contest. So, yes, I will re-watch entire baseball games. And lots of highlights in all sports.
    I am a people person and I really wish I could get more “behind-the-scenes” info/video/reports.

  11. Bozo said, on January 29, 2013 at 6:33 am

    For some reason watching a big game a second time (or more) has never been a problem for me. I don’t know if my mind switches off the out come or I just start feeling the same emotions that I did the first time around. If it’s been awhile since seeing the game, I can be all in.
    Some years ago I was at a friends house and he slipped in the 9ers and Cowboys 81 Championship game. “The Catch” game. Yes I knew the outcome but it didn’t stop me from yelling at the TV when the Cowboys started their last drive and going bonkers when Wright made the tackle.
    But like others here, at times I’ll just pick something from a game that I want to watch again (relive?). I’ve seen the 2010 WS games quite a few times but the last time I viewed it, it was just to see Renteria’s HR again.

  12. unca_chuck said, on January 29, 2013 at 7:44 am

    Funny you mention boxing, Blade. I recently found my old vcr tape of the Hearns Hagler fight. Just an incredible fight.

    I have game 1 of the Atl playoffs in 2010. I think its the TImmy 15 K game. I have a couple philly games and 3 of the 5 WS games. I haven’t watched any of them. I have some of the 2012 playoffs. and the last 2 Niner playoff wins. I did actually buzz through those recently. TOo much down time in football. Esp the Super Bowl week.

    How weird is it to see PJ Carlissemo coaching the B Nets? Seems like a lifetime ago he coached the Dubs.

  13. chipower9 said, on January 29, 2013 at 9:51 am

    While I don’t do it often, I do enjoy watching a game a second time. I have the 2-disc 2012 set (2012 highlights and complete NLCS game 7), the 2012 8-disc set that includes all 4 complete games of the 2012 World Series, Game 4 of the NLDS, Game 5 of the NLCS, and Cainer’s perfecto. And I also have the 2010 8-disc set.

    I bought these so that I can pop them in anytime, and just as a momento for the season, too.

    So, I can get into the highlight discs and also complete games.

    About a month ago my daughter was over, and a couple of friends who are huge Giant fans. We watched the 2012 highlight disc…it was fricking awesome. The end has a number of the players doing their Hunter Pence impersonations…hilarious. The disc ends with Pence viewing these impersonations…just awesome stuff.

    Like Blade I love old boxing matches too (all the ones Steve mentions…early Ali, Hearns/Hagler, Sugar Ray Leonard, etc.).

    And I have re-watched some of the old Niner games and loved them the second time around, too.

  14. chipower9 said, on January 29, 2013 at 9:56 am

    Unreal…15 days (14 according to the official ST site) until pitchers and catchers report. I can’t wait…can almost smell the garlic fries and hot dogs, fresh cut grass, and hear the crack of the bat, etc.

    I am so ready to be Scottsdale bound!

  15. gianthead said, on January 29, 2013 at 10:23 am

    one of my great regrets as a kid in 1980 as we were playing football outside and dad asked us if we wanted to know the outcome of the US-Soviet hockey game (remember everything was tape-delayed in the dinosaur age) and of course as precocious 12-year olds, we wanted ot know.

    That was still unbelievable to watch, but knowing the outcome definitely deflated the experience. Imagine if you were watching the ’81 NFC Championship Game against Dallas and somebody told you before the game started that Dwight Clark would make the greatest catch in NFL playoff history….

    Chuck, I think Curry will be ok. Watched the game and he just stepped on a foot and was quick to pull up offr his ankle.

    What is the reporting back home about BWiddy Beard?

  16. gianthead said, on January 29, 2013 at 10:47 am

    And after going to U. of Kentucky, I love the ponies, but rewatching a big race is only interesting to me right after the race is run. But I like the ponies more for the gambling than the thrill of the history of the sport…but ther eis nothing like Keeneland and Saratoga…

  17. chipower9 said, on January 29, 2013 at 11:08 am

    By the way Flav…I do like watching the ponies, but I do not follow it. If I happen to know a big race is coming up, is televised, AND I don’t have anything going on, I will watch. I remember seeing that particlar Breeder’s Cup, and even though I knew who would win, it was still great to watch it again…what a great comeback/race.

  18. Irish Kevin said, on January 29, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Well, last night one of the ESPN channels showed the highlights of the 1981 49ers season and of course the infamous “The Catch”. When I have the TV on and when anything about that 49ers team is mention on TV I stop in the middle of whatever I am doing and watch. Like Randy Cross said that was the beginning of a magical team.

  19. blade3colorado said, on January 29, 2013 at 11:19 am

    I have a hard time keeping track of what day it is in the “world” insofar as the Superbowl? Is it Monday or Tuesday there? Here, they only mention Rugby, and a bit of cricket, soccer, and the Oz tennis grand slam. WTF?

  20. eddacker said, on January 29, 2013 at 11:41 am

    the oz tennis had some memorable games until that Scotsman lost in the final game.
    The super bowl will be on at 10am NZDT (as you are in daylight savings time) Monday 4 February.

    • blade3colorado said, on January 29, 2013 at 5:36 pm

      Thanks Ed!

  21. Macdog said, on January 29, 2013 at 11:59 am

    Haven’t done this in eons, but I used to tape football games that I attended or missed entirely. Chuck’s right, it’s pretty quick to fast-forward through an NFL game. Someday I’d like to get the 2010 World Series set that Chi has mentioned since I missed some of those games or had to watch them through bizarre camera angles on the computer (there was a Fox/Cablevision rift at the time). One game I will be re-watching: A buddy got me a DVD of Matty’s perfecto, “Baseball’s Greatest Games: San Francisco Giants First Perfect Game.” It’s just a matter of finding an appropriate time to watch it. Maybe the first day of spring training, or even the one-year anniversary.

  22. willedav said, on January 29, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    Kind of sad to see Jared Cunningham of San Leandro and Oregon St. got sent down to D-League by mavs. He was one of top players in Pac12, left early, and now is doomed to play in bumfuck towns…maybe he’ll come to santa cruz, where I’d like to catch a game at the newly constructed “arena/tent.”.
    But this is a kid who turned his back on a free college ed to go make money with the big boys. Neither the nba nor the ncaa has figured out a good way to handle this, and now it’s happening in football too. Noted there is a record number of underclassmen who have declared for nfl draft this season, a trend that has only gotten worse.
    I have no idea how best to fix it, but pro sports is a cruel business, none more so than football. B-ball guys at least have options to play overseas around the world, and hopefully will still be fully intact in mind and body after a few years.

  23. unca_chuck said, on January 29, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    The thing is, most college players GET full rides. They shouldn’t be tossing that out in order to chase the money. However, I’d say for about half the athletes, the classes are bascially bogus, and their degrees thus meaningless anyway. Fricking Chuck Muncie had guys taking his tests and doing his homework and he barely ventured into a classroom in his days at Cal. And this was the 70s. I’m sure things aren’t any different now.

  24. PawlieKokonuts said, on January 29, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    Like I said here the other day, maybe yesterday, watching a WS game on a cold winter’s night does the trick. I like seeing the whole thing because I surely missed many things the first time. (In the case of Game 3 I was at the ballet; still only heard a few innings on radio and caught the end on TV.) The other pleasure is hearing KNBR announcers. Plus, as others have said, it’s relaxing, knowing we’ve won. My final reason for doing it? It brainwashes/burns more images into my ever diminishing brain.

  25. PawlieKokonuts said, on January 29, 2013 at 5:44 pm

    Jayson Stark is calling this latest PEDs report from the Miami New Times, of all places, a tipping point for baseball and all sports.

    • snarkk said, on January 29, 2013 at 6:28 pm

      More info, should we even need it, supporting the proposition that no players now in MLB are immune from the possibility that they are using PEDs. MLB is gaining on cycling as the dirtiest sport for organized PEDs use…

      • unca_chuck said, on January 29, 2013 at 8:10 pm

        I think football is pretty dirty. They pay lip service to being clean, but at least they implemented something a long time ago.

  26. Flavor said, on January 29, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    Football doesn’t test for HGH. No Shit. Today, every lineman is 330+, 25 years ago Bubba Paris was in Walsh’s doghouse because he weighed 330.

    • Flavor said, on January 29, 2013 at 8:18 pm

      Or here’s the flip side: I’m sure most of you saw that weird-ass Kwame Harris story. He was listed at 6’7 330 when he played. When he got arrested they weighed him at 230. Hmmmmm,

      • xoot said, on January 29, 2013 at 8:21 pm

        He was still strong enough to almost blind the other guy with his fists. But I see your point. Ray Lewis is busy right now claiming he’s never taken any sort of PED. Yeah. I suspect he started in HS.

      • Flavor said, on January 29, 2013 at 8:50 pm

        Well, he was still 230. That’s bigger than 90% of the population out there, I’d bet. But he, like all those guys on steroids, are cartoon characters at 330+

  27. unca_chuck said, on January 29, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    Thing is, Bonds pretty much looks the same. if not fatter. I’m sure 80% of the linemen that played are heavier after their paying days than lighter.

  28. unca_chuck said, on January 29, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    Haven’t seen that pic. Last time I saw him, he was still pretty puffy (2010 WS), and his head didn’t look any smaller.

    • unca_chuck said, on January 29, 2013 at 8:45 pm

      And, funny, I’ve stood in that very spot .

  29. twinfan1 said, on January 29, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    Football, more than any sport, shows that beating the “PEDlers” is a losing battle. It’s fucking hilarious. Maybe the keeker, a few QBs don’t use ,and ,well, that’s it. PEDs made the game what it is today.

  30. twinfan1 said, on January 29, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    VD- yes
    Moss 75-25
    Staley 25-75
    Rest of OL-yes
    Kap-no comment
    Gore- you bet
    Miller- is the fat around a hog’s ass pork?
    Andy Lee-the only “no”
    Defense- all 11-yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
    Akers- 30-70

    • twinfan1 said, on January 29, 2013 at 9:25 pm

      Oh, I forgot. That’s who likes St. Louis ribs better than baby backs. What did y’all think I was talking about?

  31. twinfan1 said, on January 29, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    It’s not really outdoor barbecue weather, here’s a pretty fair recipe for ribs in the oven, for gameday.

  32. blade3colorado said, on January 29, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    New post on my blog guys (more women and . . . umm, cows).


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