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But This One Goes to 11….

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 3, 2013

The same way I only count 2 Giants World Series wins instead of 7, I’m only going to count 11 no hitters against us instead of 16. Here’s a list of all 11 in the San Francisco Era:

2013 Homer Bailey 3-0

2003 Kevin Millwood 1-0

1997 Kevin Brown 9-0

1992 Kevin Gross 2-0

1990 Terry Mulholland 6-0

1986 Mike Scott 2-0

1981 Charlie Lau 4-0

1980 Jerry Reuss 8-0 (the Lau/Reuss no hitters were also back to back in all of major league baseball)

1968 Ray Washburn 2-0

1963 Sandy Kofax 8-0

1961 Warren Spahn 1-0

Not too many patterns to see here other than getting no hit 3 straight times by guys named “Kevin”. Oh, and curiously we seem to get shut out each time πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ ….

Be honest, how many of you, at some point in this game, started rooting for the no hitter? Come on, how many have you seen one from start to finish? Any no hitter is historic. I’ll admit that starting the 9th inning I wanted to see it. I’m not saying I was rooting for it, but I was excited to see it happen.

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  1. zumiee said, on July 3, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    Oh, great, the guy that can throw 105 MPH.

  2. willedav said, on July 3, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    nice inning by Rosario. Good to see Sf still alive and fighting -saves me from having to get the mlb fix listening to Fosse drone on.

  3. snarkk said, on July 3, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    I’m out of Vouvray.
    Gotta go tonight with some cheap Napa Pinot and a summer steak salad. With a side of Giants’ torture…

  4. salty said, on July 3, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    They should continue to sit Scoots for awhile

  5. PawlieKokonuts said, on July 3, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    Rodeo Clown spoiled Matt Harvey’s little bronco ride.

  6. PawlieKokonuts said, on July 3, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    Entering the cone of silence. Protective custody. Of my emotions. Gnight, girls.

  7. snarkk said, on July 3, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    Somehow, I’m not optimistic heading into the bottom of the 9th here…

  8. zumiee said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    Wow. Arias didn’t exactly play that the fundamental way.

  9. snarkk said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Misplay at SS. check.
    Wild pitch. check….

  10. xoot said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:06 pm

    Every game is important, but the western division isn’t in runaway mode yet. More important than winning tonight was playing to win, and the Giants have done that. Bochy managed with intensity. Even a bad break now won’t quash this spark. But the team has to play with this fire from now on. And get a couple of new players before July 31.

    • snarkk said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:08 pm

      Yep, Bochy pulled Zito quickly, he knew this thing was going to be a low run affair, at least from the Giants’ offense. I’d be up even for a coupla guys from Fresno — Peguero or Kieschnick or even Brown (won’t happen). Something needs to change the energy shortage going on…

      • zumiee said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:11 pm

        It’s time to kick the tires on Kieschnick, or make a deal. The team can’t survive with both Blanco and Torres in the starting lineup.

    • salty said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:12 pm

      I dunno xoot, That moral victory shit is tough to sell at this point…A win would be Fucking Huge and a loss a big blow after some great pitching.

      • xoot said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:14 pm

        Well, a win would be fucking huge, but what they’ve done tonight, compared to recent games, is pretty fucking good. “It’s the NL West, Jake.”

  11. zumiee said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    Abreu made the play that Scutaro hasn’t made all that well this season, that scorching backhand play.

    • snarkk said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:09 pm

      I was thinking the same thing. Keep Abreu playing for a few games while Scutaro’s “back” heals up, whatever is wrong with it. I’d like to see what this guy brings to the table…

  12. James said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    About .26 seconds to react.

  13. James said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    .43 on a Zito fastball and .37 on Chapman’s.

  14. twinfan1 said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    They *cannot* lose to a guy named Hoover.

    • twinfan1 said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:28 pm

      The only nickname they want this dude to have after tonight is Mr.Sucks.

    • Chico said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:32 pm

      My wife’s maiden name, dude.

    • Chico said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:33 pm


    • Chico said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:35 pm

      On second thought, her dad is a loser who never paid child support and left them for his anti-government fantasies. Bounced to Idaho so he can be with his kind.

      Fuck Hoovers.

  15. salty said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    Perez has to go.

  16. Chico said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    Swinging at garbage.

  17. snarkk said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    Sheezus. I left for dinner and two glasses of Pinot later, we’re still tied? Fuck, that’s a positive development in my book…

  18. twinfan1 said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    Fuck piss shit.

  19. Chico said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:47 pm


  20. Flavor said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    5 hits…38 at bats…16 K’s… this still looks ok compared to the no hitter but at some point tonight doesn’t this start to look worse? 0-5? 0-6? 0-7? Where does the madness end?

  21. Nipper said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    Giants Choo…ed.

  22. James said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:49 pm

    Hey, let’s get another getaway game . . . .

    • Flavor said, on July 3, 2013 at 9:06 pm

      How about more sound numerical analysis about the pitching being the problem….

  23. Bozo said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    Man, that was a tough one to lose. They had their chances but just couldn’t pull the trigger. Tough, tough loss.

  24. snarkk said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    I spoke too soon.
    You can’t win scoring 2 or fewer runs every game.
    This roadie is now officially a disaster.
    Bring somebody in here, up here, whatever. Pitcher, hitter, OFer, I don’t care.
    The current situation is untenable, after 6+ weeks of near free fall. This is what happens with half your lineup essentially AAA players, and the MLB players hitting like they’re AAA players…

  25. snarkk said, on July 3, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    One thing I want tomorrow — sit Pablo, play Arias. Panda is a disgrace, a mess right now. That AB where he swung at a bouncer between his legs speaks volumes, one of the kookiest ABs in recent memory. They should just DL him and send him to a San Diego strip mall office of Jenny Craig for two weeks…

    • Flavor said, on July 3, 2013 at 9:04 pm

      well, Chris Dominguez could always come up, right?

  26. snarkk said, on July 3, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    Meanwhile, Nate Schierholz has played in 70 games for the Cubs, with 11 HRs and an OPS of .862…

    • Nipper said, on July 3, 2013 at 9:07 pm

      How snarky!

  27. snarkk said, on July 3, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    On the bright side, another game that saves wear and tear on Romo’s elbow for another day…

  28. Nipper said, on July 3, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    Day baseball tomorrow. Lets pray for one win in this series.

    • snarkk said, on July 3, 2013 at 9:07 pm

      God doesn’t care whether the Giants win or lose. She told me that…

    • Nipper said, on July 3, 2013 at 9:08 pm

      Our Father who art in heaven…..let our Giants win one at least.

      • Nipper said, on July 3, 2013 at 9:09 pm

        And pray for Snarkk’s soul.

      • snarkk said, on July 3, 2013 at 9:40 pm

        My soul’s been purchased with 8 years of parochial elementary school. I’ve still got capital left with the bishops…

  29. Flavor said, on July 3, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    interesting article for those who think the fat, drunk guys were throwing 100 back in 1920ishyesteryearwhatev…..

    • snarkk said, on July 3, 2013 at 9:21 pm

      You really don’t believe those guys were much good, do you BF? I’d like to go back in a time machine with you and see Walter “Big Train” Johnson pitch against Ty Cobb and the rest of those old dudes. I think you’d be convinced Walter would do better than just fine against Panda and Blanco. Fuck, right now, I think I’d strike out Panda with my slider in the dirt even after a coupla glasses of Vouvray…

  30. SanDawg said, on July 3, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    I’m back on American soil. Glad I missed the no-hitter. One point of clarification-the one no hitter was by Charlie Lea, not Charlie Lau. Charlie Lau was the hitting guru who preached that loopy bottom hand heavy swing ala George Brett and Robin Ventura. A fun fact that I have mentioned before on here was that I was at the Jerry Reuss no-hitter sitting right behind the Dogger Dugout.
    I’m absolutely blown away Brad Stevens took the Celtic gig and I love the fact that I found out from a Snarkk post here at the Flap.
    Highlight of camping in Mexico was catching our own clams while lounging in the Sea of Cortez and then having the local restaurant cook them up as an appetizer for us along with our meal. Really just went into the water to lounge and cool off when we discovered it was pretty easy to find the clams if you dug a bit. Got some funny looks in the restaurant when we started pulling clams out of our bathing suit pockets and handing them to the waitress. Mexico is a beautiful place.

    Twin—you had me on the Beltre signing. Well done!

    • Flavor said, on July 3, 2013 at 9:34 pm

      Diggity– thanks for the Lea catch. One eye open this am.
      Looking forward to Orange Drunk Night. Bobby B is threatening to come down for golf so stay tuned

    • snarkk said, on July 3, 2013 at 9:36 pm

      Cool, ‘Dawg.
      Years ago, Mrs. Snarkk and I were up in Campbell River, BC on Vancouver Island. Went out on a salmon fishing day trip, caught a few rather lackluster King salmon, but then brought one of the smaller ones into the local restaurant about mid afternoon, and they told us they’d have it ready at 7 pm. Rolled in at the appointed time, they had prepared it ala Wellington style, i.e., baked in a filo dough type thing, set onto a mirrored, mungus plate, with the tail flailed upward like it was jumping. It was friggin’ outstanding. Nothing like fresh seafood…

      • xoot said, on July 3, 2013 at 10:33 pm

        Other end of luxury spectrum, when I worked as a fishing guide on the Talachulitna River, we built our fires down by the water first and then caught dinner — grayling and trout. We’d clean them and stuff them with butter and whatever else we had in the kitchen at the time (depended on how recently a supply plane had pontooned in — herbs, maybe lemon slices), wrap the fish in foil and bake them quickly in the coals. Great after a hard day’s work. The meat would peel away from the bones. Fresher the better.

      • snarkk said, on July 3, 2013 at 10:39 pm

        Sounds awesome. I did a week’s float fishing trip in the late ’90s down the Alagnak in Alaska, putting in at the lakehead about 50 miles north of King Salmon via float plane. Every evening before dinner the guides would prep a couple of the grayling we’d caught during the day as appetizers. Grilled or sauted, grayling bites were friggin’ outstanding as evening descended on the river. Doesn’t get a lot better, IMO…

      • xoot said, on July 3, 2013 at 11:10 pm

        Did your guides run flat-bottom boats on the Alagnak? Standing in the back of one of those and steering through the current, whether up or down, was like riding a long, shoulder-high point-break wave. It was natural, and I loved it. Meanwhile, everyone else in the boat always seemed primiarly concerned with whether grizzlies would show up on the river banks.

      • snarkk said, on July 4, 2013 at 12:47 am

        They were pretty good sized rubber rafts, as I remember. 3 rafts with 2 fisherman and 1 guide each, then 1 other guide in another supply raft. Things I remember most are the young guides just worked their asses off all day and all night. Guiding, putting up camp, taking camp down, cooking, cleaning, etc. They got and deserved a good tip. The other main memory was fishing in a huge pool after a stretch of riffles, fly fishing with an egg sucking leach, got a huge take, the fish took lots of line on the first run, I thought I had a monster rainbow. Turned out to be about a 12 pound humpy salmon. Good fight, hell great fight in the currents. Big brown bears all over the place. Guides packed .45 pistols 24/7 in camp. We caught rainbows, sockeye (river was full of ’em), humpies, grayling, a few char, no kings as it wasn’t the season. Great scenery, great trip. About 4 years ago, went up to BC in the Skeena watershed and fished on the Kalum river near Terrace out of a lodge for a 5 day 6 night Spring steelhead trip. Biggest I caught was a magnificent 17# buck that had a greenish hue with a bright red swoosh stripe down both sides of the body. Beat my brother’s best, which was a not shabby 14# buck. Fly and spin fishing from both boat and shore. Also fished for some early Kings, had a couple of nice big takedowns, but no luck, was early so not many in the river. Great fishery in that area with all sorts of different rivers. What a beautiful country up there. Another good fishing memory was I took my brother on a surprise 50th (his) bday trip to the Florida Keys. One day we fished out of Marathon, I think, on the Gulf side for permit out in the flats. Throwing live crabs at ’em with spin gear. What a funky way to fish, but effective. My brother and I’ve been fishing since we were kids, so we can pretty much adjust to anything, and we’re pretty damn good at casting. You look for the V of the permit’s tail as he’s vertical in the water eating something on the bottom, then fire a crab as close as you can just beyond and slowly bring it back near him and wait for the take down. I nailed one perfectly at about a 70 foot cast, and the fight was on. About a 20 minute fight, and about a 15# permit. What a fantastic, beautiful fighting fish. Released of course, and we were told they weren’t good eating anyway. I’d love to go permit fishing again via fly or spin, they are just super fighting fish. Got my brother blotto drunk on the night of his 50th in Key West, good memories all around…

      • xoot said, on July 4, 2013 at 9:01 am

        good trips. I think everybody who rafts down a river in the spring or summer sees grizzlies. You surprise them. I worked out of a lodge; much easier gig. We packed guns, too; I think it’s a standard accessory, to reassure the clients. The idea was to scare a grizzly away, because you weren’t likely to take one down with a handgun. I never heard a shot go off on the job. I often saw fresh grizzly tracks on the sand-bar mud, but never saw the paws. Black bears couldn’t stay away from the lodge, but they were easy to scare off.

  31. James said, on July 3, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    “How about more sound numerical analysis about the pitching being the problem….”

    All I can say is, if the Giants team ERA was 3.5 instead of 4, we’d be in first place at this point in the season, with no change in the offense. If the line up produces a 690 OPS over the rest of the year, as they’ve done over the last month, then we are looking at a 90 plus loss season, because the pitching staff is average at best. During the “great recovery” of the pitching over the last month, the team ERA has been 3.9, which . . . still pretty much smokes pole. And the starters fucked up royally over the first 1/3 of the season, diminishing what should have been a very good start to the year.

  32. SanDawg said, on July 3, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    …and I’ve never seen a ball moving that fast with that much movement as I did during that Mike Scott no-hitter. He was absolutely filthy that night.

  33. willedav said, on July 3, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    Garza outdueled Colon, held A’s to 1 run and 4 hits through 8.
    Expensive, but this guys knows what he is doing. And if he can win for the Cubs…
    I hear the posts to call up guys, but so far I’ve seen Noonan, Perez, Hector, Kickham, Kontos, Dunning, Pill….do any them really belong in mlb? Bochy is trying his hardest to win games right now. He doesn’t have a month to f around throwing spaghetti at the wall and looking at prospects to see if they can stick.

    • unca_chuck said, on July 3, 2013 at 10:23 pm

      Can Garza hit?

    • snarkk said, on July 3, 2013 at 10:23 pm

      It’s proving willieD that what the ratings services are saying is true. We have a suckage minor league organization right now. It’s arguable none of these guys you mentioned belong up here, but what are you going to do when the MLBers are hurt? That’s what AAA is for. Torres, Blanco, Perez, Hector, Quiroz — there’s 5 right there that are not going to set the world on fire, yet that’s a big chunk of the bench…

      • willedav said, on July 4, 2013 at 7:19 am

        Agreed, but if you are in need of help, what I’m saying is to bring in guys with mlb experience—a front line SP that would allow a better chance to win *torture* games than Z, lincecum or one of the kids, not just this year but next as well.
        And if the LU needs help get someone who has hit mlb pitching before, and not just for a couple weeks.
        If Nate had a .862 OPS while he played here, he’d have been worth keeping. As Twin pointed out, he’s hit more bombs playing in Wrigley for 3 months than he hit at ATT in 3 years. And belt would probably do the same.

  34. Nipper said, on July 3, 2013 at 11:21 pm

    I’m hungry. Spaghetti sounds good even against a wall.

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