Ryan Braun: A Cheater, A Liar, and a Fake Apologizer
What’s worse, a cheater or a liar? How about a *cheating liar*? Can you be one without the other? After considering the shocking developments of the last 24 hours with Ryan Braun’s pathetic demise, I’ve settled on this: Cheaters aren’t as bad as liars. Obviously, there needs to be context attached to any situation involving cheating and/or lying. Have any of you ever lied about something? Ever cheated before? At anything? Have you ever kicked your golf ball a few inches to the left to avoid a tree? Ever looked down to see an adjacent poker player not properly covering his cards? Cheating. It happens.
Narrowing it down to Ryan Braun as the context, I can accept the fact that Braun cheated. Lots of baseball players cheat. It’s been happening since the beginning of the game whether it was amphetamines, corked bats, spitballs, sandpaper, vasoline, or stealing signs, cheating has always been part of the game. Steroids, for whatever reason, is the one form of cheating that seems to enrage fans the most. It probably has something to do with the amount of money the players make after turning their bodies into human buildings. The fact that some of baseball’s most hallowed records have been broken by cheaters also fuels the fury. It’s somewhat amusing that those same fans don’t bother to consider the distinct possibility that the players setting those original records were probably cheating, in some form, themselves. It’s what baseball players do.
What I cannot accept is the lying. I’m talking about the direct, look you in the eye lies. Because NOT everyone is doing that. That has nothing to do with gaining a competitive edge. When you lie the way Braun lied back in February of 2012 you are basically calling all of the rest of us idiots. I’m talking about all the reporters who gathered that day to listen to him, all the fans who read the articles written about it, your manager, your owner, everyone. It’s like he’s saying, “these people might just be dumb enough to believe this story.” And thousands of Brewers fans believed him. Trust in tact.
If you cheat by taking steroids to excel in baseball, you’re basically saying you’re not good enough to perform at the highest level without cheating. That really has more to do with you and the perception of yourself and your abilities. But it’s YOUR personal risk. When you lie, now it’s affecting everyone else. Trust is one of the most basic things that binds the human race together. It’s the foundation of our monetary system, our legal system, our government, our relationships with other people, everything. And your word is the starting point for whether or not you will gain and/or maintain the trust of others.
If it turns out that your word is worthless, that’s pretty much impossible to overcome. You could try apologizing and that works sometimes. Second chances happen, for sure. But does this sound like an apology to you:
“As I have acknowledged in the past, I am not perfect. I realize now that I have made some mistakes. I am willing to accept the consequences of those actions. This situation has taken a toll on me and my entire family, and it has been a distraction to my teammates and the Brewers organization. I am very grateful for the support I have received from players, ownership and the fans in Milwaukee and around the country. Finally, I wish to apologize to anyone I may have disappointed – all of the baseball fans especially those in Milwaukee, the great Brewers organization, and my teammates. I am glad to have this matter behind me once and for all, and I cannot wait to get back to the game I love.”
He apologized for NOTHING in this *official Ryan Braun statement*. Apologizing to anyone you may have disappointed is not an apology for your actions. He could apologize for cheating. He could apologize for lying about it. He could apologize for fingering the innocent FedEx worker. He could apologize for believing the fans were stupid enough to believe his lies. He could apologize to the kids who wore his jersey and looked up to him as their idol. He could apologize for being a fake idol. And there are probably other things he could apologize for that would make me at least respect the smallest slightest thing about him. But he apologized for none of those things.
Imagine Braun was apologizing to you.
Ryan: “I apologize if I may have disappointed you.”
Me: “Huh? How did you disappoint me?”
Ryan: “I know. That’s what I’m apologizing for.”
Me: “What did you do?”
Ryan: “I may have disappointed you.”
See how this doesn’t quite cover it?
Here’s what his clueless owner, Mark Attanasio, said about Braun’s statement:
“We are disappointed with the news today of the suspension of Ryan Braun and his admitted mistakes. It’s clear that Ryan used bad judgment, but we accept his apology and believe that he should be given the opportunity to redeem himself.”
So Attanasio accepts Braun’s apology for *maybe* disappointing some people? Uh, Mark, why are you accepting his apology? How do you know he was apologizing to you and what specifically was he apologizing for? I guess Attanasio feels comfortable lumping himself into the group of “some people.” What a joke.
I’m not a Brewers fan obviously and I don’t really care if Braun comes back with an actual apology or not. He doesn’t owe me an apology. But he need to apologize to everyone who believed in him, everyone who trusted him, everyone who looked up to him. He needs to apologize for the specific things he actually DID. Until he does that, “this matter” that he refers to isn’t going away, and the only thing that’s now truly *behind* him is the shadow of his all lies…..
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Yeah the lying is unforgivable. This man should face much more severe penalties.
I’m officially on the ledge again. Last night’s “game” was horrible. How many “bottoming out” games can we have before accepting reality that the Giants just suck? Bad defense (WTF with Blanco on that first batter pop misplay, and what are they going to do with Torres, the guy misplayed yet another drive into a bases clearing triple basically to cripple the game to start, no doubt Perez would have gotten that), down by 6 Blanco doing a “slug bunt” attempt to get on, Timmy getting torched, Kontos getting pounded, etc. Can we seriously expect to win a division playing Torres and Blanco and Tanaka and Francouer as our OFers? The Reds toyed with us. They scored in each of the first 7 innings, fer Kreissakes. They scored at will. Today could get ugly, I don’t like our chances in either of these two games — Surkamp and Zito? Really? Nobody is hitting on this team except Posey, they’re dropping and misplaying fly balls, mishandling relay throws (Belt last night), stupid baserunning, coaches sending slow runners home with nobody out, guys with bad groins pitching for a month anyway (heard Affeldt say that this morning) and getting lit up until the groin eventually rips, etc. This is bullshit, it either has to improve so they at least play smart baseball and lose trying, or the wheels just come completely off and we sell parts to get fresh ones for next year and beyond. I think Bochy is in danger of losing this team — I don’t like the way they look while losing. You can suck, but still play sound baseball while you lose. Last night was an embarrassment for a reigning WS championship team. JT Snow said on radio yesterday the players need to “play baseball” and (paraphrasing) forget their post-WS ring advertisements and reading their press clippings. I agree with him, he’s onto something that this team is not right. I’m concerned the players are dangerously close to phoning this season in…
The golden opportunity the division had to put the Dodgers away early was blown completely. Unless the D-Backs can show something, the Dodgers look like they have a pretty clear walk to the playoffs. The Giants aren’t a playoff team this year, unless some kind of dramatic change happens. How things could have collapsed so much in less than a year is kind of hard to figure. It can’t all be physical, I would think. There has to be a mental aspect, too. There just isn’t the same mental intensity after you’ve won a few World Series rings. And I include the manager, too. How does he not notice the wrong batter was strolling to the plate in the first inning of that one game? How does he not get Posey’s bat into that extra inning game they lost early in the season? Even Sabean seems quiet and content to just let the season play out.
For a team that plays at AT&T Park, the Giants phoned in the 2013 season.
Gold Baby!!
Agree totally Snarkk!!
And if there stupid enough to trade Pence at the deadline,they will need a RFielder as well as LF next year with only a shaky Pagan coming back.
Braun said something like: “I’m glad to put this all behind me.” Say what? For all the reasons BF listed, none of this is behind Braun yet.
Maybe he meant the syringe in his ass…
Reds can smell blood.
Examples of Weasal statements:
Examples
“A growing body of evidence…” (Where is the raw data for your review?)
“People say…” (Which people? How do they know?)
“It has been claimed that…” (By whom, where, when?)
“Critics claim…” (Which critics?)
“Clearly…” (As if the premise is undeniably true)
“It stands to reason that…” (Again, as if the premise is undeniably true—see “Clearly” above)
“Questions have been raised…” (Implies a fatal flaw has been discovered)
“I heard that…” (Who told you? Is the source reliable?)
“There is evidence that…” (What evidence? Is the source reliable?)
“Experience shows that…” (Whose experience? What was the experience? How does it demonstrate this?)
“It has been mentioned that…” (Who are these mentioners? Can they be trusted?)
“Popular wisdom has it that…” (Is popular wisdom a test of truth?)
“Commonsense has it/insists that…” (The common sense of whom? Who says so? See “Popular wisdom” above, and “It is known that” below)
“It is known that…” (By whom and by what method is it known?)
“Officially known as…” (By whom, where, when—who says so?)
“It turns out that…” (How does it turn out?¹)
“It was noted that…” (By whom, why, when?)
“Nobody else’s product is better than ours.” (What is the evidence of this?)
“Studies show…” (what studies?)
“A recent study at a leading university…” (How recent is your study? At what university?)
“(The phenomenon) came to be seen as…” (by whom?)
“Some argue…” (who?)
“Up to sixty percent…” (so, 59%? 50%? 10%?)
“More than seventy percent…” (How many more? 70.01%? 80%? 90%?)
“The vast majority…” (All, more than half—how many?)
A classic example of a weasal statement:
“As I have acknowledged in the past,(1) I am not perfect.(2) I realize now that I have made some mistakes.(3) I am willing to accept the consequences of those actions.(4) This situation has taken a toll on me and my entire family, (5) and it has been a distraction to my teammates and the Brewers organization. (6) I am very grateful for the support I have received from players, ownership and the fans in Milwaukee and around the country. (7)Finally, I wish to apologize to anyone I may have disappointed (8) – all of the baseball fans especially those in Milwaukee, the great Brewers organization, and my teammates. I am glad to have this matter behind me once and for all, and I cannot wait to get back to the game I love.” (9)
(1) When?
(2) When did you think you were? What led you to believe you were perfect?
(3) What specifically are those mistakes?
(4) What consequences? What actions?
(5) Explain the “toll?”
(6) Only a distraction?
(7) Support? Who are these players? Name a fan?
(8) Specifically define disappointed?
(9) Behind you? How so? Explain exactly how you love the game of baseball, e.g., all the money you’ve stolen from the Brewers organization or is there some other reason you love the game of baseball?
Braun was lawyered up when he challenged his positive test a couple years back, and he was lawyered up this time, ready to fight mlb’s case with the story that he’d engaged Biogenesis only as expert consultants the last time he got “falsely” accused. He looks like an astute shady businessman, to me. When his lawyers examined the slam-dunk case mlb has put together, the defensive front folded and he took what amounted to a plea bargaining deal. Happens to brokers all the time. I think they usually get banned from the business, however.
Anyway, Braun, to me, clearly represents the cynical it’s-just-a-business side of baseball. (Melky does too, except that his three stooges approach to mounting a defense doesn’t reflect the way competent business people fight.) We’ve always understood ownership’s cold-blooded business approach. But since the owners staged their coup in 92 and installed Bud Selig as commish, the pure business-minded profit-above-all-else approach has come to dominate the game. Now that star players command so many millions of $$$ over long-term contracts, they’re a central part of the business operations.
I despise Braun and I despise the big-business approach, but here it is. Meanwhile, the level of play on the field (at least outside of SF) has been terrific. So I’m still hooked. But Braun is just one of thousands of assholes in the game. And the way he and his defense team have handled his PED problems reflects something inherent in baseball today. So being pissed off at him doesn’t really get us very far.
Here’s a question: If Bartolo Colon gets popped again and appeals, so that his suspension is delayed until next season, how would fans react to the A’s in the PS? Under those circumstances, I would love to see a WC or division series game at the E Coli with 10K attendance.
The thing that seems different this time is how other players are reacting, not just the minor league players eating PB&J but this one seemed to piss off Major League players as well.
Besides the bubble eyed lies of Braun, I’m wondering when MLB will quit crowing about their system working when it seems most of their busts happen when something falls in their lap.
Well, when Biogenesis fell in their lap they turned pitbull real quick. Also, we don’t hear much about the testing program. Baggarly tweeted a note about the piss-collectors showing up at the park the last time the Giants were in Cinn. But generally the writers ignore the process–so we’re left to imagine the atmosphere at the park when the cavalcade of black SUVs pulls into the parking lot, the tension in the clubhouse as the players to be tested are informed they’ve been selected and are taken away, etc. At least in some ways, the testing regimen is pretty fucking tight these days.
1. Andres Torres (S) CF
2. Marco Scutaro (R) 2B
3. Buster Posey (R) 1B
4. Pablo Sandoval (S) 3B
5. Hunter Pence (R) RF
6. Jeff Francoeur (R) LF
7. Guillermo Quiroz (R) C
8. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
9. Eric Surkamp (L) P
Nice to see you back in fine fettle, Twin. Is that the right expression? (Too lazy to look it up.)
Thanks, I’m waiting to hear from UCSF on the MRI I had yesterday. Don’t know yet on my fettlenosity…
LOL…Belt
My friend’s little brother is starting (pitcher) the second game tonight for the Reds.. So F’n bummed I can’t make it..
And one of my favorite QB’s of all time is probably super embarrassed about the Braun suspension.. I mean, he said he’s bet his entire years salary on his innocence. He should have kept his mouth shut.
Maybe you should have been a lawyer. Or lexicographer. Or archbishop. Good thread. Go in peace, my son.
Reds 2 the movie.
Reds 2 the sweep.
I’ve said before that I wouldn’t be surprised at any player being juiced now with something. There is no way we can be assured any particular player is clean. MLB is now just a cut below the pro bicyclists’ circuit for doping suspicion, as far as I’m concerned. I can live with that, because otherwise, I couldn’t give a crap about the game as it is today. (BTW, thanks for that Bud/owners and Don Fehr/players union, and the gutless media). We pretty much all believed last year that Braun was caught dirty, and the technicality he got off on was meaningless on the merits. So, for me, Braun’s admission yesterday doesn’t put him in a special category of dopers. They all lie, lie, lie, until the evidence sees light; that forces them to issue non-apologies written by their agents and PR guys, while they laugh all the way to the bank and at their fans. Mixing metaphors and Xoot’s analogy to business, these cheaters cheat to get the fat contract; so the first suspension or two is just a small toll charge across the castle moat into the millionaire’s castle. But, Braun’s blaming of the piss collector dude, now that’s the kicker for me. He blamed a regular guy, literally doing a pissy job, just trying to make a living — a guy that probably makes in a year what Braun makes in one game. THAT puts Braun up there with Lance Armstrong as co-chairs of the doper asshole HOF …
Chuck’s usually in front arguing for more stringent penalties for doping. Braun’s case is support for that, since his suspension/toll charge will amount to about a piddling 2% to 3% of his total compensation in his existing guaranteed contract, which cannot be changed for this type of violation. My suggestion is to screw this 50 and 100 game crap. Make it easy, and swift, and severe from the get go. Since economics drive this behavior (would anybody take ‘roids or HGH if it made them a better player but did NOT increase their earnings?), the penalty for getting popped must be tied directly to the contractual earnings stream obtained from your cheating behavior. When you get popped the FIRST time, the existing contract with your team is voidable by the team. The team can rip up the deal, or not. If the team rips it up, you negotiate a new one. No max or min of the previous deal. Totally negotiable — getting popped means your team can cut a new deal with you or make you a “tainted” free agent. If they want you gone, you’re free to negotiate a new deal with a new club — but, your old team gets high compensatory pick(s) from the team picking up your “tainted” ass. No contract tender from your old, wronged team is required for it to get picks from the other team that signs you. That should keep your new contract dollars down to reflect your “tainted” status, and offer some sort of real disincentive to cheat. Somebody will pay your “tainted” ass something, a la Melky and Toronto. But, 2 years for $16M is a far cry from 5 years at $75M, and I argue would have been less with the above penalty/picks regime in place – the Giants would get special, high level compensatory “tainted FA” pick(s) from the Blue Jays. If you get popped a second time, you’re banned for life from playing MLB, contract voided, see ya’…
the possibility, however remote, of false positive tests will cut against making the first test pop too severe. Biogenesis-type evidence, however, is another matter. In any event, mlb and the union could figure out ways to ratchet up the punishment, and making contracts voidable is a good idea–although I can imagine teams (NYYs, e.g.) exercising that right with some guys (ARod) but not others. Maybe combine the voidability with forfeiture to the league of a big chunk of a few years’ pay if the contract isn’t voided. Hell, put the money into a revenue sharing pot.
absolutely
ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick reports that the Red Sox and Dodgers “continue to keep the closest watch” on Brewers’ reliever Francisco Rodriguez. In fact, Crasnick hears that both teams have had scouts “all over him” this week in Milwaukee. The Tigers are also monitoring the situation, but they aren’t as eager to deal following the emergence of Joaquin Benoit and Drew Smyly in the late innings.
Meanwhile, the Giants are sending scouts to Tijuana, hoping they can locate the “next” Fernando Valenzuela. No luck so far, but they located some guy that says he is the next Fernando Lamas. 🙂
Michael – great to see you back. As always…wishing you the best.
Salty mentioned that the Reds can smell blood.
I believe ANY team can smell blood when playing our Giants. I agree with snarkk…unless they turn it around soon, stick a fork in them…they’re done. I am not totally dooming, as there is a LOT of ball left, but it does not look encouraging.
As my good friend Demp28 mentioned via email this morn, the Giants are 16-31 when playing outside the Mild Mild West (yeah, I stole that moniker from him, too).
They MUST win series (okay, we won the series against Zona, but with Bum on the hill yesterday, the table was ripe for a sweep, and instead the bats fell silent and they cannot score a fucking run. And then yesterday they get shut-out again, all the while getting their asses handed to them.
Really? Tim goes from a no-no to getting lit-up like a hot whore on pay day.
Anyway…we were in Ferndale for a dog trial for three days, spent last night in Van Damme state park (no service), but now have a house rented for a few days on the coast (Irish Beach – about 10 miles North of Point Arena). Going to sit in the hot tub, get lit, and enjoy the stay…and HOPE like hell the Giants can muster a series win against the Reds, or at least a split.
Oh, and nice thread, Flavor. You fucking nailed-it. I could give a rats-ass about Braun. What a serious fuck-wad.
Curt Schilling – “Apologies to anyone I offended while defending Ryan Braun. Especially the gentleman working for fed ex who had his life ruined.”
Another scum bag recanting his support for Ryan Braun, numero uno scum bag (at the moment).
I can’t stand that guy.
me either, he’s a phat phuck
Thanks fur remembering us
~phat phucks everywhere
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I saw Reds 2. Liked it.
What happened to Ted? I love his film reviews, i.e., more detailed than, “Liked it.” 😉
Is that with Sir Tony?
not sure how this is gonna go, but I’m gonna try to watch both of these games. Regardless of the score, no matter how many errors or bone-head base running blunders, I will watch. I’ve got some beers to ease the pain and some turkey burgers to bbq. I can do this!
That was a good first inning for the ‘Kamper.
I have some hope Surk Zito can keep the L’s Choo Votto and Bruce in check.
And expecting a big game from Frenchy. 😉
That sac fly felt like a grand slam!
Yeah, “no chance for Pence,” because Scutaro wouldn’t get the fuck out of the way.
‘Kamper gets to experience that major league defense playing behind him.
Fuck me. Who is this guy????? Mexoroco???? Never heard of him . . . sigh.
I am sick and tired of these horrible pitches to Mesorosco or whatever the fuck his name is.
This could be a LONG 6 hours. Beer time
Jesus Christ. Get Surkamp the fuck out of there.
This game could be a rout in the 2nd inning.
What is this guy, the second coming of Johnny Bench?
Frickin’ never heard of him Mac . . . However, everyone looks like Babe Ruth against the Giants lately.
The good news is he won’t start the 2nd game.
Raggs can go out there and tell Surk that this is his gm, no bullpen or whatever but we know that isn’t true. They arent gonna ruin this kid psychologically. If he keeps getting lit up the bullpen will get called on. And then what if Zito gets lit up? THAT could turn into spectacular theater of the car wreck rubber neck variety….
The Giants have lost three games this season where the opposing centerfielder made one of the greatest catches of the season on the final out. Two of the catches saved games for the opponent.
The Mets got burned by one of those last night, Heyward making a diving catch for the final out to save a 2-1 game.
Quiroz was about 15 seconds late on that first swing and miss. He almost hit the 2nd swing and miss with the first swing and miss. Trip out on that…
I suspect that the Reds are going to really make us look silly in this double header, but we still have the World Series Championship and they don’t have shit.
I’m thinking the Reds aren’t too cool with this dipshit hitting their players. Beanball war could be coming
Another 11-run win might be revenge enough.
Nice throw by Frenchie but Frazier fucked himself by hitting the ball as hard as you can hit it off the wall. It got to the wall faster than any ball ever hit at AT&T (I’d guess)
Fork in.
Ahhh, didn’t get there in time to see the wreckage.
Ahhh, more wreckage.
Think Kontos has another 3 in him for tonight?
He got shipped to AaA today to make room for Kontos
Yeah, the whole Braun thing is very reminiscent of Jason Giambi apologizing profusely for something he never actually mentioned. That set the stage for all the rest of these so-called admissions. His last sentence is what really pisses me off. Like it’s over and done with as of yesterday. Fuck you, Braun. And, like Snarkk said, he’ll pick up right where he left off, with his mega deal intact. His fucking extension doesn’t even START until 2016.
The thing that distresses me and disappoints me and outright fucking pisses me off is that this is only the 3rd inning, plenty of time for a team to come back, as the Giants were doing earlier in the year, but feeling now that they just don’t have it in them, for whatever reason. Complacent after winning 2 of 3 championships? Tired from the extra play into late October? Tired of not scoring? Hey, maybe that’s it.. not scoring is boring. Maybe they’re just bored. Boredom is tiring. I was just watching and for a minute there, I thought I had the game on mute. No sound from the fans. No life from the team. Even K&K were speechless. The players… just … look… bored… Losing is boring, guys. Pick it up. I’m liking Frenchy just because he’s exhibiting signs of not being bored….
Good thing I didn’t pick up Surkamp for my fantasy team.
Surkamp’s #1 with a bullet on my nightmare team.
So counting the first game, I guess the Giants only have to go 50-14 to get to (what I think) my win prediction total of 95. With this first game stellar performance, I guess it’s now 51-13.
Paul (Asian not New York):
I agree with you about the bored comment. Besides the obvious empty seats I’m wondering what’s even motivating fans to go to these games. Is it the beers and hot dogs? The sun? Or just getting a chance to socialize with your friends? This crowd is completely lifeless
Cha ching. Ring ’em up again. Pathetic.
And it’s another non-HR hitter.
Is it wrong to root for a kid that I grew up with who happens to be pitching against the Giants tonight? Please tell me it’s not.
Nah, I’d do it too. What’s he like? Cool guy, easy to root for? Puss hound? Bright guy? Dumb?
Good kid.. Comes from a good family… He and Jim Parque put us on the map.. Now the baseball program has taken off. He had a chance to play for Serra and the private schools, but chose to stay at home and play for a buddy at my alma mater..
Mike Dias came out of TN, too.
*Diaz.
Cool, thanks. After he shuts us down your personal knowledge of him will make it easier to tolerate. 🙂
right now is the perfect time for something like this. Ideally, he’ll throw 8 shutout innings and get pulled for Aroldis Chapman, who will blow the save and lose. 🙂
Krukow with his “good at bats” is reminding me of Krukow from 2008. And I didn’t like that Krukow. I like 2010/2012 Krukow.
Spot on Flav…I would rather stab my eyeballs with toothpicks than listen to Krukow when the Giants play like this.
Craig, I’ve got tix for Friday night against the Cubbies. My motivation? See my team! My world champions! Um… Well, a few east coast buddies are in town for our once-every-couple-years reunion when I’m back in the US, and it should be a fun night out anyway. Any other Flappers going on Friday?
Chico, Cingrani is good . . . I knew that and picked him up for my Flap team and dropped him when they sent him to the minors earlier this season (they had too many pitchers, i.e., it had nothing to do with performance). My bad for not hiding him on my FL team . . . He is going to be a good one.
Cheer for him? Shit, why not? You know the kid and I definitely don’t have a problem with it. 🙂
He’s pitching the second game of the DH.. Name is Greg Reynolds..
We lit him up when he played for the Rockies..
As they use to say on KNBR …”It doesn’t matter what your name is”
But Seriously. Chico, You can Root for Reynolds.Hell I probably will too.
Up against Zito and the Giants sucking balls, good bet the kid wins.
Well, I never heard of Reynolds. LOL. But the Giants make everyone look like “World Beaters,” so cheer on. 🙂
LOL. Sad but true..
I am checking other games around the MLB and am shocked that “Gas Can” Marmol is playing for the Dodgers . . . He just came in for Capuano. Fuck, I thought he was out of baseball (wearing the scarlet letters, GC on his forehead.).
Jesus Christ…just got off work turn on the radio and its 7- to fucking 1.
Shit that’s 32-5 being out-scored and were not even through the 5 th game. Reds have accounted for -27 of the Giants -55 run difference on the season.
And I can’t believe we have to wait through this entire mess( blowout) just to see how Zito will do on the road at home!!!!!
Lots of crowd shots in this game, as expected. All these fans look like passengers on a bus to a worker camp in North Korea…1000 yard stare going big time tonight at AT&T…
lqtm. Good one.
The Phone Park is turning into Sherpa Field for everyone, except the Gmen.
I’ll kick a new thread out there in between these games. Between that and bbqing it’ll make me feel like I’m not completely wasting 7 hours watching this bullshit
BLEEP!
Hey Blade, Dodgers are getting “Marmoled” but good tonight!
Just checked . . . Yeah, 3 earned runs in 1.2 innings is not good for Gas Can Carlos.
Just can’t wait for the Zito performance. Perhaps a no-hitter? You never know.
Ohhhh, I think I can safely say, “I know.”
Nipper, For the Reds maybe a no- hitter.
For the Giants and Zito a road game at home forget it.
Drink up boys this will be a long night.
Going with Bulleit Bourbon on the rocks smoother then the Giants play of late,with alot more satisfaction.
Bulleit is a very tasty choice, kat.
Well, that was an old fashion ass kicking.
Let’s play two…Ah, I mean, let the Reds play two. Fire up the van Nipper, we’re going on a road trip. No? The next game is still on the shores of Willie Mac. Well, nothing like getting your ass kicked at home, the gutters are more recognizable.
Ahhhhhhhhhh, what a catastrophe. This shit went south in a hurry. Salvaging a split.starts now.
Hah!
Need for Jensen to get Marmoled. Bums up 10-8.
Listening to Bobby Womac talk about his tragic life – from the Stones making his “It’s All Over Now” a big hit to 30 years of drug addiction.
It’s a happier story than my Giants. That’s a story where tragic is not an overused word.