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Sliding Doors

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 16, 2013

“There’s a fine line between clever and stupid…”

And there’s a fine line between a hero and a failure….

With the count 2/2, Hector Sanchez let a ball pass by that was very likely a strike. He must have been fooled on the pitch—I don’t know how you let a pitch like that go by when you’re down to your last strike; the last out of the game, in fact.

But the ump called it a ball and Hector blasts the next pitch out of the park for a 4-3 win. The Nats lose, their clubhouse is a morgue, the Giants win and the flight home is happy and fun.

It’s a trip to me how fortunes could change so quickly, affecting so many people, with something as slight as an umpire calling a strike a ball……..

And the ironic thing is that the pitch he hit out was probably a ball, not a strike…….

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  1. chipower9 said, on August 16, 2013 at 8:33 am

    All true, but irony aside…I’ll take the win. The Giants needed this one. And I am sure it translated to a damned happy flight to Miami. Now it is time to filet some Fish!

  2. unca_chuck said, on August 16, 2013 at 8:59 am

    Well, at least he figured out not to take the same pitch 2x. I turned on the comcast replay just in tme to catch the 9th inning. Crazy shit, Esp when you see Schnickerdoodle get down to a 3-2 count and NOT swing at ball 4. The Sanchez AB was even more gripping as he worked ot to 3-2 himself.

  3. blade3colorado said, on August 16, 2013 at 8:59 am

    I got into San Jose airport while the game was in progress . . . Fast forward 15 minutes later, I caught the Hector HR, win, and gist of the “happy meal” (or drink) flight home for our boys. Flav, I am taking my parents to the SF airport this afternoon, so if you want to hook up for a session at the gym late this afternoon. Between 3pm and 3:30pm, let me know. I should be in Mountain View returning from the airport, so give me a shout here, text, or email. If today doesn’t work, let me know when it does per your schedule. 🙂

    • Flavor said, on August 16, 2013 at 9:12 am

      gotta pick K8 up at school then. But def Sat/Sun. Shoot me your cell again via my bigflavor77@gmail addy

      • blade3colorado said, on August 16, 2013 at 9:15 am

        That actually works even better . . . Will do.

  4. twinfan1 said, on August 16, 2013 at 9:16 am

    well, hector is hardly known as a guy with a discerning eye, so it’s entirely possible that he was fooled on the 2-2 pitch. it *was* a strike (according to the sz plot that pav posted)—so we caught a break. c’est la vie.


  5. eddacker said, on August 16, 2013 at 10:04 am

    A wonderfully well-need_edd win. Just like last season; taking games in the later innings.
    and belt? ON A ROLL!
    cool, now I can imagine a team with posey, panda, pence and both brandons hitting the HOT button for a good few months.

  6. unca_chuck said, on August 16, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Wow. We’re actually closer to the WC than the division now (15.5 to 17). Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

    Never thought that would come to be.

  7. salty said, on August 16, 2013 at 11:11 am

    Hope G’s are making the right call on Pagan. Or maybe more accurate to say I hope Pagan is making the right call on Pagan.

  8. chipower9 said, on August 16, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    I know we all voiced our opinions on Pagan a few threads back…but I think it is stupid as fuck if they bring him back this year. I don’t care what the medical fucks say (don’t trust the Giant’s med guys, anyway)…the cost (potential blow-up of the hammy) vs. the benefit on a season that is basically toast just makes no sense to me.

    Seriously…give those reps to Kiesch, Peguero, Brown, etc. Let’s see what the kids can bring to the table, and let Pagan continue to mend.

    • snarkk said, on August 16, 2013 at 12:41 pm

      Well said…

  9. zumiee said, on August 16, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    In addition to being the worst color analyst on baseball broadcasts, Jerry Remy also has a son who was arrested for murder yesterday. His son was caught in the act of stabbing his girlfriend to death.
    The son had a previous history of violence toward women.

    • Alleykat said, on August 16, 2013 at 1:53 pm

      Yes Z …This SICK FUCK Jaret Remy has a long history of beating up women.
      Fucking save the trial system and fry this punk.

  10. zumiee said, on August 16, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    As for “sliding doors,” I like that moment when the ball landed on top of the fence in the World Series against Texas, and bounced back onto the field, and the Texas runner ended up stranded at secondbase. It seemed to set a tone that the SF Giants were FINALLY going to catch some breaks to win a title.

    • chipower9 said, on August 16, 2013 at 2:42 pm

      I remember that…I think it was Kinsler who hit it…and it was fucking priceless to see him standing there at 2nd…hands on his hips…with that WTF happened look on his face. Good stuff.

  11. sarge said, on August 16, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    And in an unrelated note, good riddance to Charlie Manuel crusty old bastard.

    • chipower9 said, on August 16, 2013 at 2:40 pm

      Yup…I never did like that old codger bastard. About time Ryne Sandberg got a shot.

    • zumiee said, on August 16, 2013 at 3:28 pm

      It’s gotta blow Phillies fans minds that in the 2000s, the Giants have won 2 World Series, and the Phillies 1. Like the high water mark of the Confederacy at Gettysburg, the high water mark for the Phillies was when Halliday threw a no-hitter to open the 2010 playoffs. They were the dynasty that never happened. And now they’re basically old, and the window is just about closed for who knows how long.

      • Alleykat said, on August 16, 2013 at 4:06 pm

        And they throw another high 20 +million at Chase Utley for 2 years,real dumb.

      • blade3colorado said, on August 16, 2013 at 4:14 pm

        Yeah, Utley hasn’t been relevant for a couple of years (2011 and 2012) prior to this season’s resurgence. He has a degenerative knee/bone problem. Me? I thank him for his service and say, “adios.”

  12. Macdog said, on August 16, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    This might be as many runs as the Giants combined to score vs. the Marlins during the 4-game series in S.F.

  13. blade3colorado said, on August 16, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    Five runs Wednesday, 4 runs yesterday, and 7 runs today. Coincidence? Solar flare? Seven seals revealed? Stay tuned . . .

  14. zumiee said, on August 16, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    The 49ers score an early touchdown against the Dolphins….

  15. zumiee said, on August 16, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    Speaking of screwed up sons of celebrities…..John Mellencamp’s two sons Hud and Speck (Hud and Speck, seriously?) were arrested for teaming up with a third person to do a group stomp on some poor slob. They’re being charged with assault.

  16. Macdog said, on August 16, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    Chad groping for answers now.

  17. snarkk said, on August 16, 2013 at 6:27 pm

    I’ve been busy, the Giants have 12? That’s usually 5 games worth of runs…

  18. Macdog said, on August 16, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    Given 12 runs, The Groper can’t make it thru 5.

  19. blade3colorado said, on August 16, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    Yeah, 12 runs . . . but it may not be enough. Frickin’ unbelievable.

  20. Irish Kevin said, on August 16, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    Damn, what the hell was Bochy waiting for, the game to be tied before he was going to pull that guy!!!

  21. Flavor said, on August 16, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    12 runs thru 5 innings? This is a perfect example of why looking at runs scored per game is a dumb stat, especially over anything less than a year.
    This weird anamoly will totally skew their RPG and make it look like their O has been decent recently. Hey, toss in Hector’s 3 run job yesterday and they’ve scored 16 in 6 innings.
    Is that an accurate reflection of this O? Especially if they go 1, 2, 0, 2, 1, 3 over their next 6?

  22. willedav said, on August 16, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    Pagan is getting rehab games before he comes up. He is not a baby and shouldn’t be treated like one. He’s a seasoned vet who has been playing the game since he was a kid. Giants season likely will end soon enough and he can take the whole winter off. I don’t buy the protect the investment argument for sitting healthy players at all. This is what he gets paid to do, play the game he loves.
    I also think it would benefit the kids to play alongside him in the OF. He knows the park, opposing hitters and the PS, so I’m sure he could help them out.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 16, 2013 at 7:37 pm

      I said the same thing previously and cited 3 reasons why he should play: 1. His confidence going into next season; 2. He isn’t an egg and regardless of whether he is playing baseball or walking up his stairs (see Clint Barmes), he could be injured; and, 3. It will be nearly a year since he last played baseball should he wait until spring training – this isn’t like riding a bicycle and you have to “use it or lose it.”

      Of course Williedav, everyone here disagrees with us (as best I can tell by the comments). 🙂

      • willedav said, on August 16, 2013 at 7:52 pm

        well, if no one wants Pagan to play, why play anyone? If you believe the season is lost and don’t want to see anyone hurt, then why play Posey Scut Pablo Pence or any of the SPs? Why freaking bother?
        there is also an issue of integrity. Pirates and Red Sox are next two in on the homestand–how would their opponents in division races feel if SF tanked it and refused to play healthy regulars? Giants also have 2 upcoming series with DBax who are still in relative contention.
        This whole holding guys out for precaution noise, when the best paid and best treated athletes (spreads, charters, gear, facilities, not to mention $$$$) in the long history of baseball are on the bench for a freaking hangnail drives me up a wall.

      • blade3colorado said, on August 16, 2013 at 8:01 pm

        Exactly. With that logic, why even have a training and physical therapy staff? Physicians? Who needs them, right?

        Even if he was injured on his first game back – tough cheese. It still would be the right decision to play him. This is a no brainer. Duh.

      • Macdog said, on August 16, 2013 at 8:06 pm

        I’m with you guys as well. As long as it’s not something like Jeter rushing himself before he’s fully healed, Pagan should play as soon as he’s good and ready. What, he should sit around doing nothing for the final month of the season?

      • sandy said, on August 16, 2013 at 9:50 pm

        Posey was out an entire year. Did he lose it? MVP if I recall. 🙂

        But play him if he passes all rests. Sabean did say back in May he didn’t expect him back. If they were pushing for a title, different.
        And Willie, why play anyone? No one else playing is coming off a serious injury.

      • snarkk said, on August 16, 2013 at 10:52 pm

        The other guys play because they didn’t have hammy surgery, and he plays a position where hammy pulls can happen playing D, and he’s an explosive runner out of the box = more chance for aggravating the hammy. Sorry, when this team is out of it, you play guys who are question marks to eliminate the question marks going into the offseason to help you make moves. Playing Pagan is an exercise in unnecessary risk for little, if any, reward…

  23. Macdog said, on August 16, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    Zito to close this out. Really?

  24. blade3colorado said, on August 16, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    No idea why Bruce put in “Gas Can” Zito.

  25. Macdog said, on August 16, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    Well whaddya know. In this game, anything’s possible.

  26. Flavor said, on August 16, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    I’m not against bringing back Pagan this season (and I’ve waffled a little on this). But he does need rehab games, you can’t just throw a player back into mlb games and expect him to hit the ground running at the same speed. ESPECIALLY if it’s a leg injury.
    I want him to come back, when he’s ready and healthy. That should be soon but get your games in first down low….

    • Flavor said, on August 16, 2013 at 8:19 pm

      and Willie, maybe I am misreading your 7:32. I thought you wanted him up right away but now I’m thinking I misread your post. Sorry.

      • willedav said, on August 17, 2013 at 7:55 am

        yeah, that’s part of what I meant—SF wouldn’t activate him until med staff (etc.) were sure he was OK, had played some rehab games, run out ground balls, run the bases, fielded his position for 9 innings and played consecutive days, yada yada.
        I also think it’s important for him, to be able to go full speed, play the game the way he wants to and not have those nagging thoughts back of his mind if he’s OK all the way into ST of next year.

  27. Flavor said, on August 16, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    A-Rat denying that his team leaked the names. This is awesome. 60 Minutes doesn’t typically go with a story unless they have rock-solid evidence.
    Can’t wait to watch it all unfold.

  28. Macdog said, on August 16, 2013 at 8:43 pm

    Ian Kennedy has given up 3 HRs to the Mets in the first 4 innings. And how was this a bad trade for Arizona?

    • Flavor said, on August 16, 2013 at 8:46 pm

      Agreed. I always thought there was something fucked up with this guy, teams don’t give away good starting pitchers (except Arizona who gave away Sherzer, lol).

  29. Rooster said, on August 16, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    “PHILADELPHIA — Home or road, National League or American League, against rookies or Cy Young winners, it doesn’t matter to the Dodgers. They beat them all.The Dodgers’ numbers continue to boggle the mind: nine consecutive wins, 24-3 since the All-Star break, 41-8 since June 22. That last mark matches the 1944 Cardinals for the best such stretch since 1900. The Dodgers are a season-high 8 1/2 games ahead of second-place Arizona in the NL West, they’ve won 18 of the last 19 on the road, five straight at Citizens Bank Park dating to last year and are a season-high 21 games above .500.”
    Sure hope Wilson shaves that stoopid beard before he takes the field in the Bigs a Dodgers uni.

  30. blade3colorado said, on August 16, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    “The Dodgers’ numbers continue to boggle the mind”

    Yeah, but you have the wrong numbers dumb fuck. These are the numbers that boggle the mind . . .


    Choke on them MOFO – You haven’t accomplished shit yet. Give us a shout when you’ve won the World Series fool.

  31. Rooster said, on August 16, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    Sorry Blade, since the Giants followed the Dodgers west, the Dodgers have won 5 World series, the Gnats 2.
    Nice try though

    • blade3colorado said, on August 16, 2013 at 10:05 pm

      No, you should be sorry, we have 7 total and you have 6 in the entire history of the franchises. Haha.

      • Rooster said, on August 16, 2013 at 10:06 pm

        See above

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