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The Greatest Internet Contest of all Time

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 30, 2013

I didn’t want to call it “The Greatest Contest of All Time” because that would just be over the top. But this one ranks right near the top. Free entry in a contest pitting 18 dudes against each other to win a brand new, hand made PC? Absurd. And yet it’s happening. In no particular order, meet the esteemed contestants.

ChiPower: a great Flap vet, always positive in nature and a bigger Giants fan I don’t think I’ve met. He is also part of the single best WS trophy tour pic I think I’ve ever seen. Check it out in the photo bucket.

UncaChuck: blog owner of, football is his game but he spends tons of time time rockin’ the Orange and Black as hard as anyone over the last 40+ years or so. He also shares a unique kinship with the next player……

SanDawg: My main man from San Diego and the guy who named my dad *Bobby Bowden* after he met him a few years ago during a golf game. I don’t think I’ve called my dad *dad* since ‘dawg gave him the nickname. He’s *BB* to me, from here on out. SanDawg has also dutifully sired 2 sons, 50% of them are dating one of Chuck’s daughters. And with but one Unca daughter remaining, I think we can all do the math and identify the ultimate output. 🙂

Snarkk: The Flap’s unpaid legal counsel, a 2-time Flapalooza attendee, and a Cal fan. Two out of three is still very good, especially in baseball.

MacDog: one of my east coast correspondents and photographer of “Wreck of the Fortuna”.  Also, his daughter appears to be a legit softball player.    And while his smile looks a little forced in pictures, his love of the Giants is as free flowing as a twig traveling on the shoulders of a mighty stream…….

Rooster: the one fucking Dodger fan in this contest. Please, everyone, destroy him. Unfortunately seems like a good dude or I would be reveling in the fact that he has to root for that putrid, shit team. They last won a World Series when I was in high school. Ouch. Strap your eye goggles on my man and gear up for the 2013 post season! That has to be a good look for you, right?

AllyKat: He rocks the Peninsula just like I do and he is super down with Jonny Monnell getting a start one day. He rep’s the San Carlos bar scene pretty well, too.

Salty: one of a handful of bloggers here who rises above the bullshit and never gets into it with anyone. Well done dude, I really appreciate that. You remind us that at the end of the day, we all are rooting for the same team (except for the dude 2 places above you in this thread).

Blade: Another 2 time Flapalooza attendee and he makes it all the way out from Colorado. He owns a great travel blog, too: He also recently took down the Flap Fantasy Baseball Championship of which he is a 2 time winner…..

Manny: Drops in and out at the Flap, always comes across as a big time Giants fan from somewhere, I’m guessing, in the midwest

Pawlie: My main man from New York. Esteemed author, lover of good ol’ fashioned mall tits, and he’s literally never missed a conversation with a stranger wearing SF Giants gear.

BirdDog: lots I could say about this dude, all good, but this thread I wrote 3 years ago covers some of it: . Goddamn, I miss that time……

WilcoJoe: a diehard Giants fan who simply dominates Giants games in Houston like no other out of town Giants fan I’ve ever seen or heard about. I would LOVE to hit a game with this dude one day. Looking forward to his first Flapalooza extravaganza one of these years……

SportsDude: So-Cal dude who represents us at Dodger games. Keep a low-pro, Dude, though I guess you already know that.

IrishKevin: Probably the worst fantasy baseball player I have ever seen but he’s got a great attitude and is always trying to improve. And he’s a huge Giants fan from the Sacramento area.

Sidewinder: A disciple of Chuck’s blog, he’s trying to make the switch to a new sport. Tough crossover but definitely a dark horse in this contest, he’s trying to bring back the gold to the red & gold……

WesFromRoseville: I think Wes is the only contestant in this thing who’s never posted here. He made a very compelling argument for why he wanted to play in an email. I liked what he wrote, so he’s in.

BoxHead: He shows up at the blog from time to time with thoughtful posts and cogent perspectives. He’s usually gone as quickly as he appears but he’s a showman, a rapscallion, you take guys like that in small doses and appreciate your interaction with them later on in life, maybe during thoughtful reflection…..

Flavor: ’nuff said.


most of you have sent me your picks for the first wild card game tomorrow. If you haven’t, stop stalling, this contest ain’t gonna win itself……


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  1. twinfan1 said, on September 30, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    you outdid yourself with this post, craig. swell recap of the suckers, uh, contestants. seriously- great job.

    • twinfan1 said, on September 30, 2013 at 7:33 pm

      is sidewinder the same guy as winder? winder is also in if they are different guys.

      • Flavor said, on September 30, 2013 at 7:42 pm

        probably, if he’s from Chuck’s blog.
        Wilco just sent in his pick. This shit just got legit, be-atches.
        Ok, long fucking day, I’m out till tomorrow…….

      • twinfan1 said, on September 30, 2013 at 7:49 pm

        he’s always posted as winder, all the way back in the splash days. i’ll ask him on the blog.

  2. twinfan1 said, on September 30, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    still a cool dude after alll these years- little richard was in the midst of suffering a heart attack and he told his son to get the room as cold as he could, then he took a baby aspirin, and presumably called the paramedics or the hospital. his doctor said those actions saved his life..

  3. James said, on September 30, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    It brings me a great deal of Schadenfreude to see all of those Ted Cruz voters in despair. Far more despicable than any Dodger crowd.

    • snarkk said, on September 30, 2013 at 10:35 pm

      Ted Cruz looks like Joe McCarthy. I hope his endgame is similar, too…

    • Macdog said, on September 30, 2013 at 10:59 pm

      I see Nelson Cruz once again made the final out for the Rangers.

  4. manny said, on September 30, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    I live in a little town right next to Fort Smith Arkansas (remember True Grit), Die hard Giants fan since 1964 of 65, so long that even I can’t remember the exact year.

    • blade3colorado said, on October 1, 2013 at 6:19 am

      I am reading Lonesome Dove and the sheriff, July Johnson, is from Fort Smith.

    • chipower9 said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:25 am

      Manny – you are right near my old stomping grounds. I grew up in Bartlesville, OK. My dad was born in Harrison and I have relatives in Conway and Little Rock. While it has been a few years, I have gone back to visit an old childhood friend (lives in Wellston – outside OKC), and we ride bikes (he owns two Harleys) over to the Eureka Springs blues fest. Good times.

  5. willedav said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:18 am

    Too bad the WC games shook out this way. 48 hours from now 2 of the 4 teams I’d most like to see win will be gone.
    Would Girardi really take over the Cubs? Blog comments from Cub fans and others pretty funny; Yanks fans seem to think Cubs would be getting quite a guy from what I have read so far.

  6. chipower9 said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:28 am

    Flav – excellent thread…great intro to the playuhs. And I love the re-post of the thread detailing Bird and his son. It was fun to revisit that…very cool. Wonder if his son ever got that Ross jersey?

    Fuck, I miss baseball already. Is that pathetic, or what (rhetorical question).

  7. unca_chuck said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:46 am

    Sent in my picks . . . and answered your question, Twin.

  8. Irish Kevin said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:54 am

    Worst Fantasy BB player?? ha ha yes so true, I will proudly hold that trophy!! I languish in last place but I have fun. and I have only been doing this fantasy stuff for the last 4 years here. I am a rookie 58 year old!! Maybe next year I will have a break out year.

  9. unca_chuck said, on October 1, 2013 at 8:59 am

    N Ice write-up BTW Flav. Most excellent. . .

  10. Flavor said, on October 1, 2013 at 9:31 am

    I think almost everyone has sent in their wild card picks but if you haven’t get them to me before today’s game.. After that I’ll write a thread posting everyone’s picks and after the WC games are complete I’ll put up a standings page and we’ll go from there.

  11. blade3colorado said, on October 1, 2013 at 10:20 am

    I have been getting Cleveland MLB updates for the last few years, along with the Giants MLB daily postings. I think San Dawg (or maybe someone else), said they were a fan too . . . I am not certain. Anyway, I’ve liked Cleveland for quite awhile. Perhaps, because the city gets short shift from just about everyone. The Lebron bullshit was the worst. Anywho, I have liked the Cleveland Indians going way back to when Larry Doby played for them in the 1950s. I also loved Bill Veeck, who was quite an innovator, and moreover, provided African Americans opportunities when other clubs ignored them for years. I also love the city of Cleveland, albeit, I have never visited there. I think I was introduced to the Cleveland Browns via one of the funniest movies I have ever seen, The Fortune Cookie (made in 1966). The character, William H. “Whiplash Willie” Gingrich defined attorneys for me ever since I saw Matthau nail that role (sorry snarkk).

    I am really hoping that the Cleveland Indians win their WC game against Tampa Bay.

    • twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 10:58 am

      the last time a cleveland sports franchise won a championship was 1964 when the browns won the nfl championship. the indians have gone since 1948 without a championship. the cavaliers have never won a chamionship. there is no city, including chicago, whose fans have suffered more. people in cleveland/akron had the highest median age in the us as of 2011. why are people living longer there than anywhere else? BECAUSE THEY WANT TO LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE ANOTHER CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
      this is the only city where there are wheelchair traffic jams leaving the ballpark ! so hell yeah i’m rooting for them tomorrow. although it’s rather ironic that they’re playing a team from a city that advertises shuffleboard discounts for players with hip replacements and an aarp card…

      • blade3colorado said, on October 1, 2013 at 11:09 am

        I would have gone with Pittsburgh as well, but besides McCutchen, there is little to cheer about. In my mind, they wouldn’t even be .500 without him.

        Besides, I want that PC – so I have to think with my brain, not with my heart.

  12. salty said, on October 1, 2013 at 10:51 am

    It’s going to be a struggle between who I would like to see win and who I think will win. Would love to see Pitts Cleve in the WS.

  13. unca_chuck said, on October 1, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Apropos of nothing, and since the Giants are done, my interest in baseball wanes, Alex Smith has more yards passing (957-856) and rushing (151-140) than Colin Kaepernick. Throw in 5 TDs, 4 picks, and 3 lost fumbles for Kappy compared to 7 TDs, 2 picks, 0 lost fumbles for Smith.
    Don’t think this’ll trend for the year, but curious, eh?
    Reed said he’d stretch Smith out and have him throw a lot more. He’s averaging 36.5 throws a game. Way up from his numbers with the Niners. He averaged 26.2 throws per game with SF.

    • chipower9 said, on October 1, 2013 at 11:00 am

      Well, Kaep has not started an entire season yet. Regardless of his raw talent/tools, he has a lot to learn. Overall, I think he will turn out to be one hell of a QB…he just needs time to learn. I am not tripping on this at all.

      But, I am happy for Alex. He reminds me of Zito in the sense of how he carried himself while with the Niners. Always a class act…I wish him the best (until he is playing the Niners and then all bets are off).

      • blade3colorado said, on October 1, 2013 at 11:18 am

        Good post Chi. I will disagree with Chuck and say that Smith will continue to “trend” upward and onward this year. So far Kaepernick hasn’t shown much. However, I understand that isn’t his entire fault, e.g., receivers, line protection, and coaching needs to get exponentially better for him and the offense to succeed. In other words, same deal for Smith when he was here.

    • twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 11:07 am

      i’m staying out of the alex smith discussions. it’s become clear that the kc chiefs could go undefeated, alex win the mvp, and team win the super bowl 42-0… and the most common comment by bay area bloggers would be..’well, he checks down a lot’… anyway, alex is on the line now. he’s sendng me some ribs from gates brothers.

    • blade3colorado said, on October 1, 2013 at 11:09 am

      Sent you an email Chuck regarding another Twitter message I got from you. I suspect your account has been hacked again (or is still hacked).

      • unca_chuck said, on October 1, 2013 at 12:33 pm

        I replied. Criminy . . . had to reset everything again.

    • Irish Kevin said, on October 1, 2013 at 11:48 am

      and you praised the Niners for sticking to Gore up the middle. That was a waste of time with Nolan/Singletary and it is still a waste of time.

      • unca_chuck said, on October 1, 2013 at 12:16 pm

        If you can’t run, the game ends up looking like the Indy game.

      • Irish Kevin said, on October 1, 2013 at 12:28 pm

        Tell that to Brees, Manning, A Smit, and Brady. Did you see Darren Spoules last night? Gore does not have that kind of kick in the ass speed. That is the type of running game you need. The back who can catch a screen and beat defenders. I would love to see what James would do given the chance to play

      • unca_chuck said, on October 1, 2013 at 12:41 pm

        Well, I’m with you there. The Niners have completely abandoned any kind of screen plays or drags over the middle. Most often its the WR to the flat or the dreaded WR screens thatn do so little. Gore is mostly too busy blocking to be an outlet. They have used FB Miller in that role a bit this year.

        Nolan/Sing dared teams to stop our run, and they responded by stacking the box with 8-9 guys. When you are blocking with 7, it rarely works.

        My problem with the Niners passing game is it appears very simplistic and not very creative. I don;t mind the run game as long as they don’t get too cute with it. They finally went with what works for them, and that is Gore up the middle. If they are getting 5 yard chunks, it’s fine. What they need to do is spread the formations with 5 WRs AND run up the middle. Doing that clears out the box so there’s room to run. The other problem with the Niners passing game is no one is scared of it. When we do go 5 wide, the 5 are a WR (Boldin), VD, McDonald, Miller, and Celek. So you have ONE WR, 3 TEs and a FB. Our WRs aren’t very good, and the schemes they have to work with aren’t very good. VD helps Boldin immensely. But another bona fide threat would help. KW was just demoted to 3rd WR and Baldwin promoted, so that should help some. Baldwin is big and fast, but his hands and heaert are questions.

      • unca_chuck said, on October 1, 2013 at 12:45 pm

        James wouldn’t do shit in Gore’s role. He can’t bust through the line like Gore.

      • chipower9 said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:25 pm

        There is NOTHING wrong with Gore up the middle, or elsewhere. I still see him as a very competent back. The early games when the Niners could not move the ball on the ground…most of that was on the line. I want to see the Niners return to a more smash-mouth type of football. You have a strong run game, everything else (passing success) comes off of that. You can’t run the ball…you’re basically fucked. I need to hit Chuck’s site…more appropriate place to talk gridiron…

  14. unca_chuck said, on October 1, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Yeah, Smith suffered through a slew of shitty coaching and OCs for years. Good to see him getting some solid support.

    Kappy seems to be playing a lot more tentatively this year for whatever reason. Certainly the protection is a shakier than last year. Goodwin seems to be getting beat at the line pretty badly as most of the pressure is coming from up the gut.

  15. James said, on October 1, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    I thought all of you might really enjoy the following highly advanced calculations. In 2012, there were 10929 runs scored in the NL. This year there were 9730, or 11% fewer runs scored than last year.

    The Giants scored 718 runs last year, and 629 this year.

    718 X .89 = 639

    Now, I won’t factor in the ballpark . . . .

    I told you you’d love it!

    • twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 12:31 pm

      i told you guys- those career mediocrities were gonna bite us in the ass…

  16. twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    picks are rolling in. craig has emailed his wc picks to me. and dennis has asked to join in also. i’ve added him to the contestant list. i know the deadline was yesterday. but he gains no advantage by joining now, so to be fair, i’m extending the deadline to enter the contest. so if you have not entered you have until 4 pm today- email your picks at the same time that you opt to enter the contest.

  17. zumiee said, on October 1, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    Alex Smith is a good QB, but also the KC defense is giving up only 10 points a game so far.
    I keep hearing that Badfinger song in my head. “Breaking Bad” ended its series with a very good finale. Sometimes series finales can disappoint, but this wasn’t one of those times.
    There’s a lot of great lines of dialog in that series, but one that would have to rank up there is in the first or second season, when the laughing Texas DEA agent asks a nauseous Hank: “What? Haven’t you ever seen someone’s severed head on a tortoise before?”

    • snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:01 pm

      Yep, very good finale. It wrapped things up, and maybe a little too fast. I would have actually liked another 2 episodes or so to flesh out what had happened to Skyler and kids and DEA and to Marie after Walt disappeared and Hank went down. Also, more on the skinheads/Lydia operation. The Ozymandias episode (3rd to last), where all the S hit the fan, was IMO far and away one of the best of the series. In the finale, I laughed at Badger and Skinny Pete as hit men. Nice comic relief. Good to see them again for one last time. Skinny Pete had a good line in back of Walt’s car about the hit man performance: “The whole thing felt kinda shady, like morality wise.” Hopefully those guys can show up in the “Better Call Saul” spinoff…

      • twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:15 pm

        man, that’s a helluva lot of spoiling sans the alert.

      • snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:18 pm

        Not sure where I spoiled much. Besides, it’s two friggin days after the show aired. The whole ending details are all over the Interweb more than the gov’t shutdown…

      • twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:27 pm

        well, you did. ‘what had happened to Skyler and kids and DEA and to Marie after Walt disappeared and Hank went down’. you can’t spoil better than that. i haven’t watched it, i recorded it because there were conflicts. *many* people record shows to watch later.
        the ‘ending details’ spin is bullshit. that was not cool what you did.

      • snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:31 pm

        You didn’t have to read it…

      • twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:49 pm

        snarkk, that’s weak, why don’t you just apologize. it’s fucking readable without trying. i’ve watched every fucking episode and had the last two recorded to watch *tonight*.

      • snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:57 pm

        I apologize. And, there is no way you know what happens from what I said…

      • twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:58 pm

        i’ll let you know. but thanks.

    • unca_chuck said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:14 pm

      Yeah, Baby Blue, that was very cool.

      • snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:28 pm

        Yep, well done. I’m reading reviews on the finale that dump on it for being too conventional. Huh? The Sopranos ending was too vague. This one too conventional / predictable. After a whole series of unpredictability, this one last episode was predictable? Nobody’s ever satisfied these days…

      • unca_chuck said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:41 pm


        Yeah, the Sopranos ending was too cute for it’s own good. I didn’t like what they did with Junior, and the last scene was nice in that they were there together, but did they all die together?

      • snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:45 pm

        I think Chase just ran out of ideas, so he ended it with us guessing what they were ordering…

    • twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:16 pm

      wrong spot.

  18. Bozo said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    For all you early bird types, the Giants have posted their tentative 2014 schedule.

    • snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:24 pm

      Hmm. So, we’re playing the AL Central in interleague. I don’t know much about any of those teams. So, that will be a plus for me to see. I like interleague play. I’d rather see Cleveland 3X than another 3 games with the Pads. Those 3 games in Yankee Stadium two weeks ago were interesting and good. I couldn’t disagree more with fans that don’t like interleague…

    • chipower9 said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:34 pm

      Yeah, I like the interleague games, too. First 22 games against the NL West, then the Tribe comes in for 3.

      • snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:42 pm

        I actually think they play too many division games. Who needs to see the same team 19X? I’d cut it by 3 games down to 16X each for division foes, and expand the number of games (12 = 4 x 3) with non-division NL teams. I wouldn’t mind giving up 3 games with the Rockies for an additional game each with the Cards and Cubs and Pirates, etc….

      • chipower9 said, on October 1, 2013 at 4:16 pm

        Fucking comment in the wrong spot…

    • Bozo said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:43 pm

      Sorry guys, I’m on the other side of the fence when it comes to the interleague play, And,don’t get me started on the so called rivalry games.

      • snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 1:47 pm

        So, you like playing the Pads 19X? Didn’t you enjoy the 3 games with the Yanks back there?…

      • Bozo said, on October 1, 2013 at 2:30 pm

        I could tolerate playing the Yanks some, but not in September. And, I would rather play the Pads 50 times if it meant never playing the A’s in the regular season. Sorry, I just like the AL in the WS.
        I’m probably wrong on this, but I can only think of a handful of teams that aren’t located within driving distance of a team from another league, so if someone really wanted to see the White Sox, they could.

      • blade3colorado said, on October 1, 2013 at 2:43 pm

        I’m with the clown. I hate all these lame AL inspired innovations, especially the DH. Coupled with the Car Salesman’s total face plant on the PED issue, it has made a mockery of a big part of why I loved baseball. Specifically, I am talking about statistics, which have been skewed to the point of irrelevance.

        There was a time when I could recite EVERY baseball player’s home run total beginning with Aaron (755) and going back to Ott (511). Then all these cheaters obfuscated baseball’s statistics.

        Manny Ramirez 555? Hilarious. Rafael Palmeiro 569? What a joke. Sammy Sosa 609? What the fuck? There’s a half dozen other guys on that list that I suspect as frauds too.

      • snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 2:47 pm

        Well, I thought I was, but I guess I’m not as much the traditionalist as others here. Playing the Pads or Rocks in a few more meaningless games in September doesn’t get my interest level up at all…

      • chipower9 said, on October 1, 2013 at 4:18 pm

        Steve – with all due respect, you’re mixing apples and oranges. The comment was on interleague or not. I agree on nixing 3 division games and adding a few against other NL clubs. And it doesn’t bother me to face a few AL teams during the course of the year before the World Serious.

  19. unca_chuck said, on October 1, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    My only problem with interleague play is the fact that it isn’t equitable. Some teams end up playing the Yanks/Boston while others play Houston/Sea and they end up vying for the same playoff spot.

    Plus the fact that the east coast teams used to come out for 2 trips to the west. Once isn’t enough.

    • blade3colorado said, on October 1, 2013 at 2:44 pm

      Thank you for taking the words out of my mouth. One more reason to hate interleague play and the ruination of the game (see my 2:43pm above).

    • Macdog said, on October 1, 2013 at 3:07 pm

      Right, Chuck, and vice versa. Used to be 6 games each at places like NY and Philly, now it’s just one 3- or 4-game series. I miss that.

  20. twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    the padres series’ have been some of the toughest over the last few years. i like interleague in principle and it’s nice that we have a natural rival. but some teams get shafted on that.
    seattle-san diego? uh- they share an ocean ?
    toronto-atlanta? i’m thinking, i’m thinking…
    houston-colorado? 87 bucks roundtrip
    pittsburgh-detroit ? ok, this a good one, – honus wagner vs. ty cobb. well, in 1909…

    • twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 2:20 pm

      those are ‘natural’ rivals as per mlb.

    • blade3colorado said, on October 1, 2013 at 3:04 pm

      Good one. 😉

    • chipower9 said, on October 1, 2013 at 4:19 pm


  21. snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    I enjoy seeing the other teams we don’t normally see. I really have little interest in seeing the Rockies and Pads and Arizona so many times. A dozen games with them would be enough for me. If that also had to reduce the number of Dodger games, so be it. As to the inequities of who plays who in any given year, tough toenails. Atlanta played their division games this year in a godawful division, hence a good team vs. bad oppo creates best record. The Dodgers could argue that wasn’t fair that the NL East was such suckage, so now LA has to travel to home field for Atlanta. The only valid argument in my view against interleague is the additional travel. And, that’s a weak argument in the days of jet travel and staying in top hotels. The NFL has had interconference scheduling for years, nobody seems to give a crap about that. Yes, way fewer games, but who’d want to play the Rams and Cards 4X? It’s cool to play the Colts or Tampa or Bills or whomever…

  22. blade3colorado said, on October 1, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    “Playing the Pads or Rocks in a few more meaningless games in September doesn’t get my interest level up at all…”

    That’s because they suck right now. Imagine 30-40 years ago, when the Giants were floundering and the fans in Atlanta were saying,

    “Playing the Giants in a few more meaningless games in September doesn’t get my interest level up at all…” 🙂

    • Macdog said, on October 1, 2013 at 3:08 pm

      The majority of the September games should absolutely be played within the division. I don’t recall the final series vs. the Padres in 2010 as being meaningless.

      • snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 3:32 pm

        That’s not my point. Maybe I’m being obtuse. I’m down with the division play the last month. But, I’m also down with having less division play in the middle of the season. More variety with other non-divisional foes. I don’t see any reason to have more than a total of 14 or 16 games with each division foe…

  23. blade3colorado said, on October 1, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    I think I am already regretting my Reds selection in the WC. OK, I get it that Liriano is pitching and Latos has a dead arm, requiring Cueto to pitch. I also get they are at home. However, I have seen Liriano be so inconsistent in his career and ya never know what you are going to get. I just checked out the so-called ESPN experts and they are almost all taking the Pirates too. Someone tell me why the Pirates are going to win besides “destiny?”

    • snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 3:37 pm

      Because their uniforms are cool…

    • chipower9 said, on October 1, 2013 at 4:21 pm

      Go Bucs! I picked ’em 1) because I thought they would win, and 2) because it is good to see one of the old school teams back in the dance after missing it for the last 20 years or so…

  24. zumiee said, on October 1, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    Chuck, thanks! That’s what I call three minutes and 49 seconds of music bliss. That’s a great band. They had their share of personal tragedy, but I try not to dwell on that when I hear their music.

  25. zumiee said, on October 1, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    This is one of the more depressing band bios you’d ever read.
    From wiki:

    Badfinger were a British rock band consisting originally of Pete Ham, Ron Griffiths, Mike Gibbins and Tom Evans; active from 1968 to 1983, and evolving from The Iveys; formed by Ham, Griffiths and David “Dai” Jenkins in Swansea, Wales, in the early 1960s. Joey Molland joined the group in 1969, following the departure of Griffiths. Signed by the Beatles’ Apple label in 1968 as The Iveys, they adopted the name Badfinger in 1969. Badfinger had four consecutive worldwide hits from 1970 to 1971: “Come and Get It” (written and produced by Paul McCartney), “No Matter What”, “Day After Day”, and “Baby Blue”. The Ham/Evans-penned Badfinger song “Without You” became a Billboard number one hit for Harry Nilsson. In 1970, the band engaged American businessman Stan Polley to manage their commercial affairs. Over the next five years the band recorded several albums for Apple and toured extensively, but became embroiled in the chaos of Apple Records’ dissolution. They signed to Warner Bros., but Polley’s financial machinations resulted in a lawsuit by Warner Bros., over missing escrow account money. Warner’s consequent withdrawal from market of the 1974 album, Wish You Were Here (seven weeks after its release), cut off the band’s income. Three days before his 28th birthday, on 24 April 1975, Ham committed suicide by hanging himself, leaving a note that included damning comments about Polley.
    The next three years saw surviving members trying to rebuild their personal and professional lives against a backdrop of lawsuits. The albums Airwaves (1978) and Say No More (1981) floundered, as Molland and Evans see-sawed between cooperation and struggle in attempts to revive and capitalise on the Badfinger legacy. Having seen Ham’s body after Ham’s wife had called him, Evans reportedly never got over his friend’s suicide, and was quoted as saying in darker moments, “I wanna be where he is.”[1] On 19 November 1983, Evans also took his own life by hanging.

    • James said, on October 1, 2013 at 3:48 pm

      I still have 2 copies of “Straight Up” on vinyl. The Raspberries, Big Star, throw in The Move for that last album . . . . Funny to think Dwight Twilley was considered a revivalist in 1975!

    • snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 4:39 pm

      Zum, I’d forgotten those classic songs by Badfinger. Day After Day — some good stuff, there…

  26. Irish Kevin said, on October 1, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    Ah yes traditional baseball. Since we all have been rooting for a national league team for at least 4 decades +, we all have a dislike for the DH. I was stunned to be reminded the DH came about in the 70′. I am sure that some AL team had some old fart who could still hit but his defense was shit in the field and then the really slow minded AL managers back then didn’t want to have to deal with “do I leave my starting pitcher in or pinch hit for the dude”. So the AL decided to keep the DH. Now as far as inter league play goes. I too would rather the Giants get to pad their lead in the west by playing the Pads or the Rocks an extra 12-20 games than watch a totally useless game against Toronto, or Kansas City. Is there anything to do in Kansas City besides watch baseball?? So yeah, Play the A’s for 6 or 8 games and forget about the rest of the AL.

    • snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 5:00 pm

      Very good BBQ in KC. And, now that rejuvenated QB. 😉
      Dang, I had no idea we had so many mossback posters here. I thought I was a baseball traditionalist. Sheezus, I’m a shit-disturbing baseball anarchist compared to some of you guys…

      • Irish Kevin said, on October 1, 2013 at 7:59 pm

        LMAO, cool pst

  27. Flavor said, on October 1, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    It’s unlikely I’ll get a new thread up before the game starts but I have everyone’s email (I think) for tonight’s game. I’ll shoot for getting it up mid game. Hopefully you’ve sent me both WC picks, that will make it easier for me just to include both in tonight’s thread. If everyone hasn’t sent me both, I’ll just list off tonight’s picks

    • snarkk said, on October 1, 2013 at 3:52 pm

      Is there a prize for blowing the most picks in the contest? 😉

      • salty said, on October 1, 2013 at 5:00 pm

        I’m going to be hard to beat for that one.

  28. twinfan1 said, on October 1, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    i’m not in the contest but i’m picking ‘outside the lines’
    pittsburgh-cincinnati…liriano is hard to figure. this guy was the best starting pitcher in baseball in 2006- the year of santana’s 2nd cy. liriano didn’t pitch enough to qualify. but he was better- at 22 yo. and then the injury in 2007. he’s never really been back until this year. and even now he can blow sky high now and then. the closer is melancon now, he was 16 for 21 and blew his last three opportunities. on offense- they’re a lot like toronto- low ba, can hit the ball out.
    reds are similar offensively- .249 ba 155 hr. reds are better defensively. cueto- been on the dl 3 times this year and pitched just twice since june 28. but he’s been dominant against the bucs in his career-13-4 2.37 era and 8-2 1,80 in pittsburgh. liriano is 0-3 3.70 against the reds.
    so? actually, i like both clubs and both managers. i like liriano to out pitch cueto despite those regular season records. 2 games in the last 3 months, i don’t see cueto going past 5. my sleeper tonight- neil walker.
    bucs- 6 to 2. i don’t know if that’s a wish or a prediction but that’s the way i’m going.

  29. blade3colorado said, on October 1, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    With 3 lefties in the Reds lineup, this is another reason that Liriano has an advantage, although Votto and Bruce hit lefties fairly good . . . Choo hit only .215 and slugged .265 (no homers) against lefties. Nevertheless, too late to change my pick now. I will reluctantly be cheering the Reds.

  30. blade3colorado said, on October 1, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    Sudden death game like this – DUSTY BETTER PULL CUETO NOW.

  31. blade3colorado said, on October 1, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    Fat ass umpires. They need to stop joining the cops at Dunkin’ Donuts.

  32. Alleykat said, on October 1, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    Yeah took the Reds as well Blade.WTF was i thinking.Didnt even know Cueto was chuckin.Never liked that “Bob Marley dredlock chump”!!
    Should of taken Pitt!!!!!

  33. Alleykat said, on October 1, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    Fuck Phillips!!!
    You can assume you fucked up that DP!!
    Error just because you “Pooched the Booty “

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