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Free Agent Prediction Contest

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on November 4, 2013

This contest is put on by mlbtraderumors.com and promises to pale in comparison to the one Twin put on. Anyway, it’ll kill some time if that’s what you’re looking for. The goal of the contest is to predict where their top 50 free agents will go. I think I got 12 correct last year. The winner got 20. It’s hard to do. And you have to have a facebook account.

Here’s the link:



There are prizes, I don’t know what they are.


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  1. willedav said, on November 4, 2013 at 6:40 am

    I think it’s great Jose St and Fresneck have renewed the rivalry game, even if it won’t turn out the way I would prefer. FS is having a great season, and if they win out could wind up in a high class bowl, where hopefully they would get run out of Dodge and crawl back to armpit of the valley with tails btw their legs.
    It would be interesting to look at their graduation rates too. No, not the ones of their *student* athletes from college, but how many years it took them to graduate from middle school.

    • Nipper said, on November 4, 2013 at 7:29 am

      …….with a grammar school reading skill.

  2. WilcoJoe said, on November 4, 2013 at 6:59 am

    Did I just hear that the A’s may play the next two seasons at AT&T?

    • Nipper said, on November 4, 2013 at 7:31 am

      Giants would never consent. Then again for a few bucks anything is possible.

    • twinfan1 said, on November 4, 2013 at 7:44 am

      When’s the last time AT&T had 30,000 empty seats? Geez, 5,000 A’s fans would get lost on the bridge, fergawdsake…

      • twinfan1 said, on November 4, 2013 at 7:49 am

        I’m kidding. I love A’s fans. They’re so cute in their green and gold leisure suits…

  3. Flavor said, on November 4, 2013 at 7:53 am

    Wilco– I just heard that on the radio. Sounds like nothing more than a power play by MLB to force a short term deal with O.Co officials.
    That would be a hoot, though. The Giants and A’s play 9 home games next year on the same day (that sounds like a low # right?). Maybe they could convert AT&T into one of those multi-level chess board games. A’s play on the lower level, we play up above. They’d have to put up with peanut shells falling on them but that beats the sewer backing up all over the field, lqtm

  4. willedav said, on November 4, 2013 at 8:14 am

    Marlon Byrd projected to get 2 yrs. $15 mil-ish. Guy was on scrap heap not that long ago (possibly from medical issues) but lit up the NL and despite age a plus defender. Interested? I doubt any of bigger names come here. Next one listed on cbs site is Nate McLouth, who’s last years in NL didn’t go too well.

    • twinfan1 said, on November 4, 2013 at 9:50 am

      I’ve mentioned Byrd a few times as a possible stopgap. At two years I’d definitely consider it. What I’ve been against is locking up all outfield spots with our young farm system outfielders locked out from any hope. I’m not buying that we have no kids capable of playing up here but that’s not even the point- it’s simply bad policy and affects every guy in the system when there’s the perception- backed by reality- that the parent club may have sign that says “positions filled indefinitely”. As to Byrd, I’d prefer one year, but 2 is acceptable.
      With all that said- and I realize that I’m in a tiny minority- I think that a new platoon of Blanco and Perez or Peguero could very well be what we see next year. The offense and the team is not riding on the LF position- they’ll be better depending on the performance of the presumed core- Posey, Pence, Sandoval. Pagan, and Belt if he’s not traded. An improved pitching staff and better overall production from that core will determine the fate of the team in 2014. And from a budget standpoint, with Lincecum, Pence, misc. raises, and the buy outs, the payroll probably sits at 125 million or so. After getting the pitching they still need, I don’t see big bucks available for a left fielder.

    • gianthead said, on November 4, 2013 at 10:14 am

      One may suspect Byrd has found the “fountain of youth” in a syringe…

      • twinfan1 said, on November 4, 2013 at 10:42 am

        Well, Marco Scutaro is as suspicious as any player in the game. But I don’t know if he’s using or if Byrd is- but I couldn’t care less as long as they’re smart about it.

  5. Macdog said, on November 4, 2013 at 8:21 am

    The Yanks played at Shea Stadium for two seasons in 1974-75 while Yankee Stadium was being refurbished, so anything’s possible. The first Yanks games I saw were at Shea: a doubleheader in ’75 vs. the Angels with Tanana and Ryan leading the Halos to a sweep. And Shea was especially busy in September of ’75 since the football Giants also played that season in Flushing.

  6. Alleykat said, on November 4, 2013 at 8:58 am

    Shit that would mean seeing those dumbass half Giant half A’s caps again.Please No!!!!!!!!

    • Bozo said, on November 4, 2013 at 10:58 am

      Can’t stand those things. Whenever I saw someone wearing one I just wanted to scream.make up your mind. Come to think of it, I may have screamed that at one or two of those undecided/misguided folk.

  7. gianthead said, on November 4, 2013 at 10:18 am

    Well now we have some stuff to talk about. Of course, does not look like we have much to offer to pick up a left-fielder. Any thoughts on Cory Hart on the way cheap? I see that as a more likely outcome than making a significant deal.

    Brandon Phillips? Just does not seem like a plausible Giant move. Nolasco? What are you all hearing back home?

    A’s at ATT? Bar the gates Flappers…

  8. gianthead said, on November 4, 2013 at 10:20 am

    And for the record, I was happier to see the Sox win the Series to keep the Cards away from claiming two of three world series and stepping on our toes. I did not watch a whole lot of the playoffs, but did any boob on tv (no way will Buck or McCarver ever say a nice thing about the Giants) give BWislon the credit for the beard thing? Seemed like he should have received some credit for starting the trend. My 2010 Fear the Beard poster still faces out onto K St!!!!!!

    • twinfan1 said, on November 4, 2013 at 10:45 am

      Brian’s has some style, those Sox beards are just a halfway house for miscreant fleas…

  9. zumiee said, on November 4, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    Well, here’s the 2013 Fresno St. football team, Willie. Which of these guys do you feel doesn’t deserve a chance to go to college to try to improve their lives:

    1 Isaiah Burse WR 6-1 187 SR MODESTO, CA
    2 Brian Burrell QB 6-4 219 JR BAKERSFIELD, CA
    2 Jamal Ellis DB 5-11 170 FR RIVERSIDE, CA
    3 Josh Harper WR 6-1 184 JR STOCKTON, CA
    4 Derek Carr QB 6-3 218 SR BAKERSFIELD, CA
    4 Shannon Edwards DB 5-11 190 FR BAKERSFIELD, CA
    5 Dontel James RB 5-11 210 FR FONTANA, CA
    5 Dalen Jones DB 6-1 193 FR WOODLAND, CA
    6 Zack Greenlee QB 6-1 197 FR STOCKTON, CA
    6 L.J. Jones DB 5-10 201 SR LOS ANGELES, CA
    7 Aaron Peck WR 6-3 211 SO MORENO VALLEY, CA
    7 Curtis Riley DB 6-1 190 JR ORLANDO, FL
    8 Da’Mari Scott WR 6-0 199 FR —
    10 Greg Watson WR 5-10 209 JR RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA
    11 Bryan Harper DB 6-1 170 FR RIALTO, CA
    11 Dillon Root WR 6-1 190 SO VISALIA, CA
    13 Myles Carr QB 6-1 211 FR ARCADIA, CA
    13 Derron Smith S 5-11 200 JR BANNING, CA
    15 Davante Adams WR 6-2 212 SO PALO ALTO, CA
    16 Devonn Brown WR 5-8 143 JR CORONA, CA
    17 Taylor Stewart WR 5-11 187 SR FRESNO, CA
    17 Kyrie Wilson LB 6-2 228 SO BAKERSFIELD, CA
    18 Sean Alston DB 5-10 192 JR ALTA LOMA, CA
    18 Andy Jennings DE 6-2 275 SR TURLOCK, CA
    18 Colin Kearon QB 6-3 190 FR SANTA ANA, CA
    19 Colin McGuire K 5-10 183 FR AUSTIN, TX
    20 Josh Quezada RB 5-11 214 JR LA HABRA, CA
    22 Malique Micenheimer RB 6-1 232 JR STOCKTON, CA
    23 Anthony Riggins WR 5-11 190 JR FAIRFIELD, CA
    23 Donnell Vercher DB 6-2 200 JR CLOVIS, CA
    24 T.J. Thomas RB 6-1 204 FR MESA, AZ
    25 Darryl Cash WR 5-10 191 JR STOCKTON, CA
    26 Rodney Mathews S 6-1 208 JR RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA
    27 Donavon Lewis LB 6-2 239 JR FRESNO, CA
    28 Charles Washington S 5-11 200 SO ENCINO, CA
    29 Kyrian Obidiegwu DB 5-11 204 SO HAYWARD, CA
    30 Patrick Su’a LB 6-1 239 SR BAKERSFIELD, CA
    31 Ejiro Ederaine LB 6-3 220 SO CORONA, CA
    32 Jeremiah Toma LB 6-1 235 SR SACRAMENTO, CA
    33 Marteze Waller RB 5-11 214 SO EATONTON, GA
    34 Randon Knotts S 6-1 196 FR AUSTIN, TX
    35 Carl Coleman WR 6-1 170 FR STOCKTON, CA
    36 Justin Holmes S 6-2 173 FR FRESNO, CA
    37 Jonathan Norton DB 5-6 175 SR MORENO VALLEY, CA
    38 Blake Dunn K 5-9 172 SR FRESNO, CA
    39 Kory Peoples DB 6-1 190 JR KINSTON, NC
    40 Jordan Brown FB 6-1 227 SO FRESNO, CA
    41 Brandon Hughes LB 6-3 212 FR MOORPARK, CA
    42 Jeff Camilli LB 6-3 264 FR SHINGLE SPRINGS, CA
    43 Karl Mickelsen LB 6-1 229 JR SAN DIEGO, CA
    44 James Noble III RB 5-6 170 FR —
    44 Jaamal Rose LB 6-2 222 SO SAN JOSE, CA
    45 Riley Barnes TE 6-3 261 JR TULARE, CA
    46 Kade Hess DB 4-11 185 FR FRIANT, CA
    47 Anthony Dickinson LB 6-1 210 FR RESEDA, CA
    48 Kyle Stevens K 5-11 170 FR CLOVIS, CA
    49 Garrett Swanson K 6-1 213 SO RIVERSIDE, CA
    50 Temerick Harper LB 6-1 250 FR RIALTO, CA
    51 Stephen Van Hook LB 6-1 230 FR PERRIS, CA
    52 Nikko Motta DE 6-2 279 SR SANGER, CA
    53 Mike Saenz OL 6-5 312 SR WHITTIER, CA
    53 Courtney Tender LB 6-0 240 FR —
    54 Justin Northern OL 6-5 285 SO LAKEWOOD, CA
    55 Claudell Louis DE 6-4 286 JR BOYNTON BEACH, FL
    56 Lars Bramer OL 6-5 282 SR CLOVIS, CA
    57 Adam DeCosta LB 5-8 200 JR MANTECA, CA
    58 Suli Faletuipapai DE 6-4 240 SO GARDENA, CA
    59 Dylan Detwiler LS 6-1 216 SO HEMET, CA
    60 Bo Bonnheim OL 6-2 295 SO PASO ROBLES, CA
    62 James Funk OL 6-2 268 JR CLOVIS, CA
    63 Josh Tremblay OL 6-5 284 JR NAPA, CA
    65 Gabe Valov OL 6-3 280 FR BAKERSFIELD, CA
    66 Allen Brown OL 6-3 301 SO SAN DIMAS, CA
    68 Elijah Cox OL 6-4 297 FR GLENDALE, AZ
    70 Alan Gonzales OL 6-2 200 FR CLOVIS, CA
    71 Andrew Gustafson OL 6-6 266 JR SCOTTSDALE, AZ
    72 Austin Wentworth OL 6-5 306 SR ROCKLIN, CA
    73 Cody Wichmann OL 6-6 311 JR MARIPOSA, CA
    74 James Le’au OL 6-1 310 SR AUSTIN, TX
    75 Sean Rubalcava OL 6-4 295 JR NORWALK, CA
    76 Alex Fifita OL 6-4 307 SO HAYWARD, CA
    77 Maurice Poyadue DL 6-3 280 SO MARTINEZ, CA
    78 David Patterson OL 6-4 289 FR IRVINE, CA
    81 Justin Johnson WR 6-1 202 SO GARDENA, CA
    82 Darrell Fuery WR 6-1 186 FR GARDENA, CA
    85 Delvon Hardaway WR 6-1 181 FR LOS ANGELES, CA
    86 Ryan Moore TE 6-1 200 FR SAN DIEGO, CA
    87 Joe Ellis WR 5-11 180 FR RIVERSIDE, CA
    87 Robert Stanley LB 6-3 224 FR LAS VEGAS, NV
    88 Jerin McClendon TE 6-8 258 JR SEMINOLE, FL
    89 Marcel Jensen TE 6-6 270 SR FAIRFIELD, CA
    90 Nat Harrison LB 6-2 233 SR FRESNO, CA
    91 Nathan Madsen DE 6-4 260 FR EUREKA, CA
    92 Tyeler Davison G 6-2 304 JR SCOTTSDALE, AZ
    93 Mitch Frentescu DL 6-3 270 FR WALNUT CREEK, CA
    94 Ramon Sierra DL 6-1 220 FR HONOLULU, HI
    95 Ryan Steele G 6-1 301 FR KINGSBURG, CA
    96 Todd Hunt DE 6-3 261 SO NEWPORT BEACH, CA
    97 Ben Letcher DE 6-2 243 SR CORONA, CA
    99 Ioane Sagapolu G 6-1 301 JR HONOLULU, HI

    • blade3colorado said, on November 4, 2013 at 1:26 pm

      No idea who shouldn’t go, but I’ll tell ya this – that kid “16 Devonn Brown WR 5-8 143 JR CORONA, CA” definitely deserves to go to school; and he obviously has HEART playing college football at 143 lbs. Wow!

    • twinfan1 said, on November 4, 2013 at 1:39 pm

      Many are not in college to obtain higher education, they’re in college because the NFL uses the colleges as a minor league system. A lot of the hyprocrisy about the “student athlete” would be ended if the NFL had a draft that included high school players and instituted a minor league system. That won’t happen of course, instead many of those 99 will never graduate ( more than 40% at FSU), more will graduate yet remain uneducated, and of course many (10%) will suffer brain injuries and other injuries that will affect their lives and livelihood for years to come. The NFL-College relationship is a fraud. Please don’t misunderstand- every one of the 99 young men on Zumiee’s list deserves a real college education- if that is their choice. But that is simply not the case for many and it’s not the intent of the college. Those players are money makers for the colleges and the vast majority with pro aspirations will obtain neither an education nor a career in football.

    • SanDawg said, on November 4, 2013 at 2:43 pm

      Glad to see Woodland representation!
      Also, Ryan Moore is the son of a woman I used to know. I kind of lost touch with his mom, but I’m not surprised to see he is a D1 TE. That kid was a man-child. He was one of those kids who was belting home runs over the fence during Tee Ball when other kids were hitting dribblers back to the mound.
      As an SDSU alum, I’m not a big FSU fan. The recent Aztecs loss to FSU was an absolute killer—-and a classic SDSU performance. I would put it in the Top 10 most painful Aztec losses since I first stepped foot on Montezuma Mesa in 1984—and that is saying something as the Aztecs have had some real heartbreakers over the years.

    • willedav said, on November 4, 2013 at 8:03 pm

      Zum, I’m sure Jose st isn’t any better at graduating their athletes, esp football program. And it is true every signing period that the guys they get are ones who weren’t good enough/didn’t have the grades to get into Pac12 schools. I think the QB Fales is on his 4th school, 2 D-1 programs he left plus a year of JC ball.
      I did attend upper division History seminars with a guy on the b-ball team and I coached HS ball with another b-ball guy who played with Johnny Burks and retired few years ago after years of coaching HS ball and teaching in south bay.
      I still remember likes of Henry ellard and Marquez Pope and good battles with bulldogs.

  10. unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    Per Baggs, the Giants are ‘looking at’ Tim Hudsen.

    • blade3colorado said, on November 4, 2013 at 1:18 pm

      Is he younger than Methuselah?

    • snarkk said, on November 4, 2013 at 6:14 pm

      I’d take a flyer on him, maybe instead of Voggy. I heard on radio the Giants supposedly passed on Voggy’s option — had to be exercised by today…

  11. Alleykat said, on November 4, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    How about Kurt Suzuki as the backup catcher as a stopgap till Susac is ready?
    Great Defensely,great calling games.
    Get Hector involved in trade talks packages.
    Posey and PT Suzuki not a bad combo.

  12. Irish Kevin said, on November 4, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    I am going to go way off the subject of Baseball. the articles have just started but they are going to become more and more prevailent as the date nears. November 22 will be the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy Assassination. Was reading an article about all the hate mail the City of Dallas received during that time. In the article it even states that if the Dallas Cowboys had not come along the City might not have ever recovered. I was only 8 years old at the time. Only real memory is of my mom and dad crying in front of the TV. CBS, NBC, ABC the only television station available. Wasn’t to bad a job being the designated channel changer. That day was definitely a life changer. No telling where this Country would have gone if he had lived. Twin I am interested in where and what you were doing on that fateful day.

  13. SanDawg said, on November 4, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    I’m down with a Tim Hudson flyer. Not sure about Kurt Suzuki, but only because I love the way Hector swings the bat and hold out hope that he can improve behind the plate. Wouldn’t mind Marlon Byrd either. Byrd seems like the classic type of lower tier free agent that Sabean likes to target.

  14. salty said, on November 4, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    No word on Vogelsong yet? Thought they had till 2pm?

  15. unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    Yeah, I’m cool with Hudson. Given him a couple years. Dawg, Your son came over for dinner last week, BTW. He’s coming back in a couple days. I broke in our new p-o-s bar-b-que. Can’t use my other one as there isn’t a gas hookup close enough to the back yard, and it won’t convert back to propane. Sucks.

    Kevin, I was 7 when Rob’t was shot and killed. My mom and I were watching the convention when it happened. She was a huge Kennedy supporter, as most of us Irish Catholics were, and she was waiting for the results. I asked if I could stay up late to watch. Truly shocking stuff, especially after the MLK assassination a couple months earlier. Then, with the DNC in Chicago, I was convinced there was going to be a revolution in the streets.

  16. twinfan1 said, on November 4, 2013 at 6:12 pm

    I could see a minor league for Josh Johnson and maybe Haren for the four or five depending on what we can get him for. I still like Jason Vargas, and another possibility for the back end is Scott Kazmir. Someone mentioned him and I like him more and more.
    The co-ace type is tougher and probably requires a trade. The Dodgers are sure to add a top of the line guy, I think we can put an offer together that would land Price. If we’re to contend for the West, we need to outpitch the Bums.

  17. snarkk said, on November 4, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    I’d make a go at Hudson for a year just to get him out of the chance to beat the Giants 4 or 5 times…

  18. blade3colorado said, on November 4, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    I mentioned Kazmir. His stuff is excellent. However, I also mentioned that we’re fucked if he wins Comeback Player Of The Year award, i.e., his stock goes up if that happens and I am not certain Sabes wants to pay a premium on top of a premium (he’d pay anyway).

    In fact, I am more and more convinced that he will “stand pat with his hand” of existing Giants and only do a couple of cosmetic improvements (utility or “not ready for prime time” starters). The reason I believe this is because we have 6 players who had less than stellar years and he wants to give them one more year to redeem themselves. By the way, I am being kind using that description for a few of them. In short, Pablo, Timmy, Matty, Vogie, Crazy Horse, and Buster need to step up their respective games next season.

    Hudson is through. He is a sinkerballer, using that pitch about half the time and at a speed of 89–91 mph. His next-most used pitch is a cutter at 85–88. He expands his repertoire to left-handers with a curveball (76–78) and splitter (79–82). He also has a four-seam fastball. His favored pitch with 2 strikes to right-handed hitters is his cutter, while he stays with the sinker to lefties. He sounds like Barry Zito lite. Question – If Atlanta doesn’t want him, why would we? Atlanta KNOWS pitching and I would trust their judgement.

  19. Macdog said, on November 4, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    Re Hudson: Didn’t we already deal with enough angst from one of Oakland’s vaunted “Big 3” from a decade ago?

    • blade3colorado said, on November 4, 2013 at 9:27 pm

      LOL. My feelings exactly.

      • snarkk said, on November 4, 2013 at 9:30 pm

        If he’s that bad, let him prove it in Spring. Sounds tonight from KNBR that the Giants are letting Voggy go on a long FA walk without a leash — but, they have his cell phone #…

  20. blade3colorado said, on November 4, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    Snarkk, he probably isn’t as bad as I describe (he did have a more than decent WHIP last season, despite a Timmy like ERA). Who knows? He might be worth a flyer. However, the Braves aren’t even submitting a qualifying offer – they feel they can sign him for much, much cheaper than what he thinks he’s worth. Anywho, I don’t think we need a 38 year old pitcher on the roster.

  21. Bozo said, on November 5, 2013 at 4:29 am

    Hudson had major ankle surgery and that’s probably why the Braves didn’t extend the qualifying offer. They say they want him back though.

    Speaking of qualifying offers these pitchers didn’t receive one – Bronson Arroyo, Dan Haren, Paul Maholm, Ricky Nolasco, A.J. Burnett, Bartolo Colon or Scott Kazmir. Or the one more time in the sun guys, Roy Halladay, Josh Johnson and Johan Santana.
    These pitchers would cost us our first round pick (14th) – Ubaldo Jimenez, Ervin Santana and Hiroki Kuroda

  22. snarkk said, on November 5, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    Well, at least the teaparty nut lost in Virginia governor race. I’ll have a short Makers on that one..

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