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Blast Off Time in Sherpa Town

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on April 21, 2014

Three hits? We got three hits? It seemed like more than that. Lots of balls hit hard. And now we travel to visit the Sherpa’s. Nice weather, low humidity, it’s the perfect environment to blast off bomb after bomb. Will it happen? Stay tuned.

I predict three Giants go deep tonight. Pable. Pence. Posey. And for some reason, I feel like Voggy is going to do ok. If Cargo’s knee is still bugging him he might avoid having to pitch to him. And shockingly, Tulo is 0-10 against him. Cuddyer is still dealing with a hammy problem. The rest of their line up is uninspiring. I’m not a Blackmon Believer and Morneau hasn’t been any good since he got his bell rung.

And delaRosa is not very good.

Giants win, 11-2.

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  1. twinfan1 said, on April 21, 2014 at 9:25 am

    Vogelsong/De La Rosa tonight. Another one run game. 18 to 17.

    Look out tomorrow- Snot Rockets carry in the thin air. Rockies are closing the first two rows ..

    Due the expectation of high scoring games Bochy will go with 16 pitchers,With no reserve position players, some pitchers will have to pinch hit. It’s going to be tough topping the .152 BA that the bench has provided..

  2. dirtnrocksnomo said, on April 21, 2014 at 9:31 am

    Blade, you going to any of these games in CO?

    • blade3colorado said, on April 21, 2014 at 11:41 am

      Tomorrow’s game with friends (enemies . . . LOL).

  3. Bozo said, on April 21, 2014 at 9:53 am

    Entering Rocktown with the team RBI lead, I salute Angel Pagan.

    Tired of hearing Bum tell him he’s only one behind him in HRs and RBIs, I predict that Pablo goes off.

  4. unca_chuck said, on April 21, 2014 at 11:00 am

    Better now than later. Maybe he can wake up Pence as well.

  5. unca_chuck said, on April 21, 2014 at 11:00 am

    I’m amazed their record is as good as it is with the inconsistent hitting.

    • James said, on April 21, 2014 at 11:53 am

      The thing to be amazed about is the bullpen. Starters still sucking big time with an ERA of nearly 4, the bullpen at 1.8.

      They’ve scored 78 runs and given up 69. That projects to an 11-8 record. There’s nothing noteworthy about the distribution of their runs scored. Look at a sampling of a few other teams’ box scores. The Nationals, e.g., are also 11-8 and have had 10 games of 3 or fewer runs scored.

      • unca_chuck said, on April 21, 2014 at 11:55 am

        Yeah, the pen is lights-out. But the starters have been pulling their weiight these last couple turns through the rotation. The hitting hasn’t.

        If they could pitch and hit at the same time . . .

      • James said, on April 21, 2014 at 12:24 pm

        That’s really tantamount to saying I wish the Giants pitched and hit better, i.e., if only they gave up fewer runs and scored more, they’d win more. Hey, I agree with you there. Where I don’t agree is that the Giants, given a fixed level of hitting and pitching, should somehow be expected to control and synchronize their runs allowed and runs scored in a way that maximizes their win total. That is not the way the world works and it simply is not under any team’s control. When you beat the projections, it is where luck comes into play.

      • unca_chuck said, on April 21, 2014 at 1:01 pm

        Right. I get that. They rarely play to the mean. Besides, you can’t score 4.3 (or 3.8) runs per game (insert dumb-ass smiley face).

        You don’t see improvement in the starters? Why not? Cain was at 5.73 after his first 2 starts. His next 2 he’s at 1.28. Timmy’s starts have gotten better. First 2-10 runs in 11 innings. 2nd 2-4 runs in 11 innings. The part I don’t get is that hot and cold play no part in your model.

        I’m sure Pablo will start hitting better. As will Pence and Posey. So i guess that means that Pagan must go down? Or Hudson must screw up his next couple since his last few starts were above (his) average?

        Pablo could suck all year. But if Pence more than makes up for it what does it mean? As long ans they collectively reach their average then all is well?

      • snarkk said, on April 21, 2014 at 1:35 pm

        What’s wrong with 4.3 rpg? That almost always worked for Zito, right?… 😉

      • unca_chuck said, on April 21, 2014 at 2:21 pm

        Hah! He’s 129-0 when they score exactly 4.3 runs in a game.

  6. zumiee said, on April 21, 2014 at 11:30 am

    Pawlie and others, thanks for the kind words yesterday. That was cool about the Yankee blog. Thanks!
    I’ll chime in with others on how great replay worked yesterday. That’s the core of what replay is supposed to be about: not allowing a bad call to be a factor in the outcome of a game.
    It’s ironic that sometimes the ump has the worst view in the entire stadium on a play. He’s so close to the play he gets his view blocked.
    The sound of homeruns like Posey’s yesterday is the best sound in baseball. A full, rich sound that sends a jolt through the crowd and the viewers at home.

  7. blade3colorado said, on April 21, 2014 at 11:46 am

    I doubt the game will be a wipe out as Flav describes. I do expect a high scoring game for both sides though. Also, Flav is spot on about Pence “getting off the Schneid” tonight, as the Preacher has a well-Hit Average of .417 (5-for-12) against De La Rosa since last year. Big fire works tonight . . . Book it!

  8. Irish Kevin said, on April 21, 2014 at 11:53 am

    So the beginning of the season the offense was helping the pitching. Pitchers were not really reliable?? Sort of, now the pitching is starting to come together and the hitting has fallen off to the way side. With that said, I think I would rather have Pence, Pable, and whoever, have their slumps now rather than at the end of the year. I am pretty sure Pence and Pablo will both be hitting their career average by the end of the year. GO GIANTS

  9. blade3colorado said, on April 21, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    Pence’s worst month is usually April . . . Go check it out (the stats confirm this). He will be fine by May. A lot of players right now are face planting, e.g., Miggy, Encarnacion, McCutchen, etc. No biggie or reason to panic.

    • snarkk said, on April 21, 2014 at 2:46 pm

      Pitchers generally still strong, ahead of the hitters so far. As the season goes along, it tends to reverse…

  10. Chipower9 said, on April 21, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    Hoping Vogey can have a second consecutive turn with a solid outing. I think the bats will get going against the Sherpas…just hoping the pitching holds up.

  11. snarkk said, on April 21, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    Well, all hitters with some history tend to revert to their mean historical performance, you could say, until age takes it’s toll. But, the mean includes all periods of when they were hot, cold, hurt, pissed off, or whatever. The thing is championships are won when you have a lot of guys playing to their mean, only a few playing like crap, and hopefully a good few having career or above average years. In 2010, the pitching staff had career years, actually historically awesome years. In 2012, the pitching staff was not as good as 2010, but in the stretch and playoffs they had historically dominant post-season pitching going back to the ’70 Orioles. This season looks like no dominance from a starting staff, but probably very good to excellent Pen work, given the recent performance and the fact that there are plenty of good Pen arms below when/if needed. Last season, nobody in the hitters dept. had good years except Pence (skewed late), and some may have had career bad years; plus Pagan was hurt. If the hitters perform towards their means this season, the team should be in the hunt. Look at the Big Red Machine. They had dominant hitting and scoring for 2 consecutive years they won the title. In ’75 they scored 840 runs, that was 105 more than the next highest NL team with 735; they also had the 3rd best NL ERA at 3.37. In ’76, they had 857 runs (87 above the #2 NL scoring team), and 6th in ERA. They still just won those two titles in that short era of the BRMachine…

  12. blade3colorado said, on April 21, 2014 at 1:40 pm

    Hey, I don’t want to read about any Flappers attending this Sherpa series via South West airplane wheel wells.

    • Alleykat said, on April 21, 2014 at 2:06 pm

      Hey DiCaprio, did it the right way, escaped down the wheel wells once the plane landed …

  13. zumiee said, on April 21, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    Yeah, I know I get picky about broadcasters sometimes, but…..twice yesterday, Krukow said “inclusive” when he meant “inconclusive” regarding replays. I hope somebody corrected him on that after the broadcast. He sounded silly saying “To reverse the call, the replay must not be inclusive.”

    • unca_chuck said, on April 21, 2014 at 2:56 pm

      Maybe they were leaving the New York guys out of it . . .

      • zumiee said, on April 21, 2014 at 3:08 pm

        Ha! 🙂

      • unca_chuck said, on April 21, 2014 at 3:11 pm

        Semantics are my life . . .

    • blade3colorado said, on April 21, 2014 at 4:31 pm

      When I was a fire fighter (before pursuing an occupational safety and health career), we had a fire captain that would use the word “Pacific” when he meant to use “Specific,” e.g, “Steve, I want you to pacifically man the inch and a half hose and Jack to connect the 2.5 hose from the pumper to the hydrant” or he would give a class where he would say, “A circular saw can be used to cut all types of materials, but you need to ensure you have the pacific blade attached for the appropriate material you are cutting.” Huh? He said this so many times, that people would laugh behind his back. Essentially, no one corrected him because he was an asshole. 🙂

  14. Chipower9 said, on April 21, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    Let’s get it started!

    Pagan, CF
    Pence, RF
    Posey, C
    Morse, LF
    Sandoval, 3B
    Belt, 1B
    Hicks, 2B
    Crawford, SS
    Vogey, P

  15. Chipower9 said, on April 21, 2014 at 3:08 pm

    From one of the previews I read on the game, re: some of the Giants’ success at Coors Field:

    Morse’s average stands at an even .500 (20-for-40) with two homers and 11 RBIs. Posey has been prolific from a run-producing standpoint, hitting .402 at Coors Field with seven home runs and 22 RBIs. Belt (.305, four homers, 11 RBIs), Arias (.429) and Sanchez (.353) also have been robust hitters in the Mile High City.

    Angel Pagan hasn’t topped .300 at Coors Field but has been productive all-around. He’s hitting .294 in 22 games at Coors Field with 17 runs scored and 13 RBIs.

    Let’s hope it carries over during this series. Watching my carrots sprout in my garden was more exciting than watching the Giants come to bat during the series in Dago…

  16. unca_chuck said, on April 21, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    That book sounds great, Zumie. Got to pick that up.

    • zumiee said, on April 21, 2014 at 3:16 pm

      It’s an incredibly cool book, Chuck. I’m in awe of the research the author did. I’m tempted to mention things from the book, but I don’t want to give anything away. Plus the author says it much better than I would.

    • zumiee said, on April 21, 2014 at 3:30 pm

      Steve Rushin writes a lot for Sports Illustrated. Reading his Wikipedia page…..he’s married to Rebecca Lobo, which is kind of interesting. She confronted him in a Manhattan bar after he had written a negative article about the WNBA, and they ended up hitting it off. They have 4 children together.

  17. DJLoo said, on April 21, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    Blast off: one-eight-oh.
    Two hundred: Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval.
    Two ten: U.S. Government certified.
    Two twenty: lunar trajectory, junk of the month club, sirloin steak.
    Two thirty: Grade A poison.
    Absolute dynamite. Eighty-nine percent pure junk. Best I’ve ever seen.

    • blade3colorado said, on April 21, 2014 at 4:32 pm

      Either the French Connection or The Seven Ups. Both excellent movies. Great scene too.

      • Flavor said, on April 21, 2014 at 4:41 pm

        I’m glad you got all that. Loo’s the best but sometimes I miss the boat

  18. Flavor said, on April 21, 2014 at 5:16 pm

    This is a gm the Giants can’t freak out in. If Voggy gets hammered (and come on, despite my score prediction if he got hammered no one would blink am eye) the Giants hitters need to remember where they are and not panic. Luckily, I think we have the team to not sweat the crooked numbers that get put up in Colorado.

    • DJLoo said, on April 21, 2014 at 6:58 pm

      Absolutely right.

  19. Flavor said, on April 21, 2014 at 5:47 pm

    10 pitches seen by Pagan in first at bat. Fantastic lead off hitter.

    • James said, on April 21, 2014 at 6:08 pm

      He’d be even more fantastic if he’d taken ball 4 on that 10th pitch. But, yes, De La Rosa has already used a quarter of his pitches for the night and he only saw 4 hitters.

  20. Manny said, on April 21, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    Paging Mr Petit to the bullpen, paging Mr Petit to the bullpen.

  21. James said, on April 21, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    The bullpen’s ERA may go up this game.

  22. snarkk said, on April 21, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    If I had gotten on 101 when Voggy started pitching the bottom of the first, I’d have been in Santa Barbara by the time he finally got the third out…

  23. snarkk said, on April 21, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    Well, there’s 3. Hey Boch, how many HRs is Voggy going to give up before you’ve seen enough? This has the look of a 12-8 type game…

  24. James said, on April 21, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    It may be prudent for the Giants to make a calculated decision to distribute their run production for this series between games 2 and 3.

  25. zumiee said, on April 21, 2014 at 6:40 pm

    I kind of marvel at the way Krukow and Kuiper still act in awe of Bonds’ tape-measure homeruns. They have to be acting, right? There’s some kind of disconnect there.

  26. snarkk said, on April 21, 2014 at 6:48 pm

    I’m on radio, so I didn’t see Voggy, but this start sure sounded like most of the last season+ of his starts where he just can’t get anybody out. Laboring. I know it’s Coors, but I’m back on the Voggy is done train until he proves otherwise…

    • DJLoo said, on April 21, 2014 at 6:56 pm

      Don’t count on getting a seat…

  27. snarkk said, on April 21, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    Sheezus, our pitchers can’t even run to first without going on the DL…

  28. DJLoo said, on April 21, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    For some reason Jackie Robinson’s retired #42 on the right field wall at Coors has pinstripes.
    Can someone possibly explain that?

    • snarkk said, on April 21, 2014 at 7:06 pm

      A painter from the Bronx?…

  29. blade3colorado said, on April 21, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    Welcome to Coors.

  30. snarkk said, on April 21, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    OK dudes, I’ll check back after another dozen runs or so…

  31. blade3colorado said, on April 21, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    You guys should try playing golf at Sherpa Land . . .

    • DJLoo said, on April 21, 2014 at 7:10 pm

      While half the world starves…

  32. Flavor said, on April 21, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    New thread! For the love of God, new thread.

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