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Morse Can Do Whatever He Wants

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 6, 2014

Morse is catching some sh!t on the internet for his over-celebrating tie-making home run but I thought it was awesome. Talk about a month’s worth of frustration coming out in one swing. It’s so awesome when a baseball moment like that bubbles up out of no where.

And what’s up with Belt only hitting one bomb? I clearly said “one or two” in my thread yesterday. That bastard owes me another one today. 🙂

If you missed it, go read Pawlie’s post from last night about meeting Andres Torres. Just awesome stuff.



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  1. salty said, on July 6, 2014 at 9:03 am

    I reacted pretty exuberantly. Our cat still hasn’t come out from behind the sofa.

  2. wswins said, on July 6, 2014 at 9:04 am

    emotional win last nite…emotional story this morning Pawlie…

  3. Nipper said, on July 6, 2014 at 9:11 am

    Another win today would be nice. Glad for Belt.

  4. salty said, on July 6, 2014 at 9:21 am

    Timmy could do wonders with a dominant effort again today. More proof he’s turned a corner and give them some mo going into a tough series with the A’s.

  5. stickman said, on July 6, 2014 at 9:29 am

    Back in Eleven following Creepy Cousins takeout of Buster the team busted its collective ass to try and make up for the lost offense and leadership ~ to no avail as we all remember all so bitterly. Immediate results rather similar to the Posey situation three years back was the tear the team went into on Belt going down with the busted thumb. Injury not nearly so serious or long term. The proof was in the pudding yesterday. Lacking both the Pagan sparkplug and the clutch blasts from Belt the team went into that collective tailspin. Hudson, Blanco and Morse were the first ones to pick up on the changed vibe with the return of BB9.

    Should Timmy continue his masterful ways vs SD today he might just get sufficient offensive backing to pull off a feat almost as rare as his second No-No ~ back to back Giants victories.

  6. SanDawg said, on July 6, 2014 at 9:36 am

    Great story from Pawlie and a nice win yesterday. Love the Righetti clip on the 4th. Pretty cool when you have to go through Wade Boggs as the last out of a no-hitter. I’m with my parents up in Redding. Out of touch and darn near off the grid is about right. Starting the drive home today and am timing it to coincide with Giants game on the radio. Paul is Asia summer flu story was also awesome.

  7. twinfan1 said, on July 6, 2014 at 10:09 am

    * One of the Padres announcers on The Beast’s exuberance:”I didn’t realize it was October”
    Tell the Padres, it’s only a rumor to them.
    *Maybe a guy who can help, soon: Erik Cordier, last 10…..12.1 IP 3 H 0 R 3 BB 17 K
    Another power arm would be very welcome.
    *Really enjoyed yesterday’s game despite a *shocking* dearth of bunting
    *Belt’s HR routine is so cool-it’s even better than Kuip’s HR call. A *drop* of the bat, a *quick* peek at the drive, an all business trot.
    *Pawlie’s Torres meeting- “it’s a bless”. Great post. BTW, it’s “Yungo” , he corrected the media a couple years ago. Hitting .364 at Pawtucket . Bosox could have a new outfield soon.
    * Recorded the July 4th stinker. Pretty amazing how the gist of a 2-0 loss can be captured in a 3 minute fast forward
    * Did you catch the anthem from the Marine woman? She’s now in the brig.
    * Happy 4th weekend. I kinda burned my weinies -or is wienies? The ones you put on a bun..

  8. snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 11:25 am

    Great comeback win. As for internet doofs pounding Morse for celebrating, just go away. I’ve always said real emotion is the great part of sports. He wasn’t showing up the Pads, he was genuinely pumped. Baseball is a great game, but has always been overly curmudgeonly when it comes to showing real emotion. The NFL promotes guys showing fake emotion in the endzone — to a point…

  9. snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 11:45 am

    I didn’t see the comeback, but heard about the Romo near disaster. Lurie is talking this morning that he feels Romo should only be going against RHBs now. With Machi looking loopy, the Pen suddenly looks vulnerable. Not sure if there’s anybody in Fresno that could be waiting in the wings…

    • twinfan1 said, on July 6, 2014 at 12:09 pm

      Maybe Cordier, he’s starting to get up there in age and his time looks to be this year or next. See my first post for his last ten. Been a wild man but seems to be taming it somewhat. 100 MPH gas is not to be dismissed.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 12:20 pm

      I disagree about Romo. He was saved on a grounder that Craw vacuumed (but still it was a grounder) and Morse made an easy, softly hit pop up look more difficult then it actually was. I am not saying Romo gets his job back, but as I pointed out the other day, bad luck (e.g., Pagan gaffe for example that went for an inside the park HR) has played a part as well. Sergio still has the 3rd best baa at .213 and WHIP of 1.02 . . . Casilla has been better, so he should continue to close. However, I’m thankful that Romo is available should Casilla falter.

      I commented on yesterday’s thread about Pawlie’s post – I read it late last night and I had a melancholy/sad feeling for Torres, where tears came to my eyes. I hope he gets another shot at the show and he does well. Again, great story Pawlie. Just my take Pawlie, but there is a book here . . . Specifically, I think you should follow up with Andres and tell him who you are, then propose a book about him and his travails since being on the Giants. The whole minor league experience is fascinating (as Willie touched on a bit) . . . Yet, Andres seems to have made the most of it. Not saying this is an accurate assessment. Who knows? He could be miserable down in the minors. I have no idea. However, I do think there is a wonderful story (book) here and YOU are probably the ONLY one who could write it. Not just saying this to inflate your tires. I mean it.

      • twinfan1 said, on July 6, 2014 at 12:31 pm

        Steve, Andres was signed to a minor league contract because the Bosox outfield has been horrible. He started out slowly in Low-A but they must have liked something because they promoted him to AAA where he’s been hitting well with nice pop. They seem to be treating it almost like a rehab stint. I’d think he’s psyched.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 12:38 pm

        Well, I wish him the best. Pawlie’s “take” of him being a humble and considerate guy is what I’ve read about him. I hope he is playing with the Red Sox in the 2nd half. They are known for giving second chances, e.g., Grady Sizemore. Moreover, their outfield needs assistance with Bradley floundering a bit and the other rookie Betts just getting his feet wet.

      • willedav said, on July 6, 2014 at 12:31 pm

        Yeah agreed, Torres would make a fantastic story. First time I warmed to the guy was watching him hit a PH HR over the CF fence at ATT and touching them all in record time. Cool player, I thought at the time.
        Reading about AAA, so many of the guys Feinstein follows have been bedeviled by injuries, mis diagnoses, setbacks from over compensating and trying to compete, etc. And everyone knows Torres has had his share and that his have been more complicated and difficult to treat than most.

    • willedav said, on July 6, 2014 at 12:24 pm

      Mmm, the ball that wound up a double should have been caught for an out. Most guys beside Morse make that.
      Next guy up did whack one up the middle but Craw saved it with a diving grab and threw him out at first.
      Next, with lead run on 3rd he gets Maybin to pop out and K’s Quentin with trademark out of the zone unhittable slider. Disaster is a bit harsh. regardless he did a great job pitching out of it.

      Machi left his forkball or whatever it is up and in the middle of the plate, where it got whacked. He keeps it down it’s unhittable. On him to control his stuff…I thought Baggs was out of line on him. Predictable is not bad if you keep your pitches down where they won’t hurt you. Hudson does it most of the time without throwing gas.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 12:28 pm

        Thanks. That’s how I assessed his (Romo) inning.

      • twinfan1 said, on July 6, 2014 at 12:35 pm

        Yep, it was gut check time after Crawford’s gem and Sergio passed. No small feat after his recent failures.

  10. DJLoo said, on July 6, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    I still say Morse without his hat is almost Kirk Hammet’s twin…

  11. zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    Great story from last night, Pawlie! Very cool.


    The Giants ended up with a great win last night, but I wasn’t digging Bochy’s decision to bring Romo into the bottom of the 9th last night. I don’t care what the reasoning was, or the ultimate result; I’ll never agree that was the right move. Predictably, things got weird, and the game was very close to being lost, and would have been another devastating loss. I don’t want Romo in high stress situations like that for quite a while. He’s still not hitting on all cylinders.

    • zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 12:38 pm

      I say that also because the Giants had the top of their order coming to bat in the top of the 10th.

    • wswins said, on July 6, 2014 at 12:46 pm

      Morse should’ve had the ball that went for a double leading off the inning. Give Romo credit for getting it to the 10th.

      • zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 12:49 pm

        Sorry, but I’ll give Crawford more of the credit.
        And on the next batter- that pitch to Mayben looked pretty hittable, too. Mayben was in the dugout in disbelief that he didn’t rake that pitch for at least the winning sac fly.

  12. snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    As I said, I didn’t see the comeback. Lurie is usually very solicitous to Giants players, gives ’em lots of rope. He’s definitely down on Romo right now as a guy to use in critical situations, especially if LHBs are involved. I’m inclined to believe him, against LHBs, Romo has given up a .407 OBP and .477 SLG. Looks like it’s essentially Casilla as closer right now, I don’t disagree if that’s the case…

  13. Macdog said, on July 6, 2014 at 12:49 pm

    One of the best wins of the year. Romo’s reaction after getting out of the 9th was every bit as over-the-top as Morse’s, no doubt the pent-up release of two guys who have endured a miserable month-plus of frustrating play. But it’ll mean little today without a series win and 4 games with the now-favored-to-win-it-all A’s looming. Not sure what would be more encouraging: A 3rd straight gem from Timmy or going a 2nd straight game without getting shut out.

    Wonderful story by Pawlie. The first thing I did was check the PawSox’s schedule to see if they’ll be anywhere nearby. Turns out they’ll be in Allentown vs. the Lehigh Valley IronPigs at the same time the Giants will be in Philly later this month. Of course, Torres might be up with the BoSox by then.

  14. snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 12:55 pm

    A caller into KNBR today made an interesting observation, IMO. Morse getting back into LF from 1B, now with Belt back, may help his hitting. Morse isn’t the best LFer out there, but he’s a better LFer, and more comfortable out there, than at 1b. IMO Belt being back does a lot. Really solidifies the infield defense, as we’ve seen already, and strengthens the lineup definitely — the other guys should get some better pitches to hit with him in the LU…

  15. snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    Since Belt is back and Sanchez the designated catcher for Timmy, Bochy is still giving Buster a day off. I don’t see why, when you’re down a Panda, Bochy feels compelled to “rest” Buster from catching. With the team struggling mightily, seems to me you put Posey into such a situation to bolster the lineup, especially where today’s Pads pitcher Hahn handled the Gyros well the last time out. Instead, Posey sits. Maybe it won’t matter, and Posey obviously can PH, and yes Timmy has been great the last two outings with Sanchez. But, IMO is shows again that Bochy is inflexible/uncreative when it comes to managing in challenged circumstances, and that Posey eventually is not going to be catcher, and shouldn’t be much longer…

    • snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 1:35 pm

      For the Cards, Molina has played 76 games at catcher (plus 3 as DH or PH) out of 88 games so far for the Cards. So, he’s played in 79 of 88.
      For SF, Posey has played 60 games as catcher out of 87 games so far. Plus 15 as 1bman, 1 as DH, 5 as PH. So, he’s played in 81 of 87.
      Overall, both catchers have pretty much the same game appearances, but Molina compared to Posey is playing catcher in 76/88 (86%) vs. 60/87 (69%) of the games…

  16. zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    Not the Giants’ “A” lineup today.

  17. zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    Panik epic-failed on his first AB of the game.

  18. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 1:18 pm

    Yes! Belt!

  19. zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 1:18 pm

    So nice having Mr. Belt back!

  20. stickman said, on July 6, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    Now THAT is a better batting order. Panik may not have come through in his first shot at his natural spot in the order but clutch-man Belt gets the job done. Hope Bochy sticks with this top third of the order. Panik is in VERY good company right now. He should get it going pretty soon.

  21. snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    Belt! I’ll take him over Arias at first.
    Belt was/is hitting HRs at around a 1HR : 14AB clip.
    He was out two months, so figure he missed about 180-200 ABs. He’s at 10 HRs now. So, had he not been out, he could easily now be around 20 to 25 HRs…

  22. snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 1:40 pm

    Again, I’ll ask with Hector on first and nobody out, why doesn’t Blanco try for a bunt hit there? Because he got a dinger yesterday? Instead he hits an innocuous flyball out. At worst, with a bunt try the Pads throw out the slower runner Hector at 2nd, and Blanco takes first with one down. If he gets the hit, they have men on first and second with nobody out. Either way, ahead of Crawford, it’s better…

  23. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 1:47 pm

    LOL . . . I never get tired of this shit. Bats flying out of their hands on SOs. This is great.

  24. snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    Panik! Nice AB, and slash down the LF line.
    Pence is looking like an All Star. Maybe I’m starting to like him at leadoff… 😉

  25. snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:05 pm

    Yes, Morse with the clutch RBI knock! This is looking promising…

  26. stickman said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    Kudos to Panik. He did NOT make a liar outta me. Never thought it would happen so quickly, though. He’s the perfect fit for that two-hole and could be leading off tweaks Pence’s juices more than just a tiddle. What makes Panik so perfect for that slot is that he walks almost as often as much as he strikes out, has a good knack for advancing runners AND has a fair ability to slash doubles. This kid’s gonna be just fine.

    • snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:12 pm

      I’m not there yet, Stick. But, I’m down with your analysis. In a lineup of mostly hackers, Panik has the rep of taking good ABs, and he’s mostly showed that so far with SF. He’s only got 36 PAs w/SF, and .306 OBP, so give him another few weeks to see how he does adjusting to big league hurlers. IMO, clearly an overall upgrade on Adrianza, who had much more minor league experience. Sabean’s public verdict on Panik was too early…

  27. snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:17 pm

    So, Blanco bluffs a bunt on the first pitch of the AB, takes a strike. Then proceeds to K, looking, on 3 pitches. As blade says, phfffft. Flemm says on radio that he thought the Giants would be happy if Blanco tried to bunt at least once a game. Then why doesn’t he? WTF?…

    • blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:25 pm

      I think Bochy should drop Blanco one more spot behind Craw. Then my world would be perfect. Ha.

  28. Bozo said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    I’m getting the San Diego broadcast and I have to say that, I actually enjoy Dick Enberg but Mark Grant? What a fucking tool.

  29. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    Dick Enberg is one of my favorite announcers of all time. I didn’t know Enberg was a San Diego native.

  30. twinfan1 said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    See ya.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:29 pm

      Take care Mike.

  31. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    Well, there goes the no no, but he sure is pitching fine.

  32. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    Wow! That was a very nice play by Panik.

  33. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    Damn, Timmy is dealin’.

  34. zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:45 pm

    Nice D from the Giants last inning. Good stuff.

  35. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    Double play. Oh yeah!

  36. zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    Timmy’s stuff is good again today, but his control isn’t as sharp as it has been lately.

  37. Bozo said, on July 6, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    I sure would like to tack on a couple extra runs here.

  38. zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    No help from the Rockies today.

  39. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    Quality start. Granted, again it was San Diego. He has been very fortunate (as we have) to have pitched at home and/or against the Padres. I wasn’t surprised about him beating the Cards either, as he has owned them at home as well. His next start is against the dreaded Snakes, but the good news is that he has the wide open spaces of the Phone park. I look for him to win again in his next start, despite Goldshit wanting to spoil the party.

  40. zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    Saw somewhere on the web that, in the last 12 Giants games, it’s Lincecum 2-0, and all other starters 0-8.

  41. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    IMO dude didn’t have control of the ball.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:11 pm

      The review guy in NY is obviously drinking on the job again.

      • zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:13 pm

        NY botched that one.

      • Bozo said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:17 pm

        Yup, the spring In Brooks Conrad’s mitt was fully loaded, as were the umps in NY.

    • zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:12 pm

      “Balkin'” Bob Davidson, what a lousy umpire. Kind of a league joke.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:14 pm

        Didn’t know that. Zum, any other plays stand out about this guy or is the general consensus, he just blows a lot of calls?

      • zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:18 pm

        For some reason he calls a LOT more balks than any other umpire. He’s made it his own weird personal quest.

      • snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:18 pm

        Flemming said Conrad never even got his throwing hand on the ball. Is that right? If so, how long does the ball have to stay in the mitt to be in control for an out?…

      • zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:21 pm

        I get the need to protect the infielders, but there has to be SOME standards. The ball just bounced off the guy’s mitt, and he followed through with a phantom throw to sell it to the ump. It worked.

      • snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:25 pm

        Just saw the replay on
        NO freekin way that was an out. It clanked off his glove. Giants feed showed the rule — the fielder must have “complete control of the ball”. That was not even close to having the ball under control. Ridiculous call by the ump. Ridiculous call by the replay umps….

  42. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Still chuckling about the Pagan Bobble head day on July 13th, which commemorates his inside the park home run. They should have an asterisk on the base of the bobble head, which says, “Also commemorates the start of the Giants face plant in 2013.”

  43. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    Back to baseball . . . Questionable/arguable call bringing Lincecum out for this inning. He was already at 100 pitches I think and it seemed like he was tiring. Just my opinion of course.

  44. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    “. . . he followed through with a phantom throw to sell it to the ump. It worked.”

    Yeah, that’s how I saw it too. Conrad should take up acting after his putrid career is over.

    • zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:26 pm

      We’ll always be grateful for Conrad’s frying-pan glove in the 2010 playoffs. 🙂

  45. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    Another example where Pence’s all out hustle pays off.

  46. DJLoo said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    Pence makes Pete Rose look like a slacker…

  47. zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    It only took Bochy about a year to figure out that Blanco’s not a lead-off hitter.

    • stickman said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:41 pm

      Bochy finally matriculated from Lineup-101 today the way he has set the 1-3 slots, quite against all illogic and queasy reasoning.

  48. snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    Pence with another great hustle play. Not that I really care, but All Star right there.
    Panik with another hit. Nice.
    Belt with the smoked sac fly. Nice again. That’s the way to play some ball!…

  49. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    Well, Stick or Styx or Stickman or Carstie (grin) – you’ve been chatting up Panik and he sure is proving it. In short, giving you props for leading the parade on this kid. I am becoming a believer fast.

    • snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:36 pm

      Hey, I stuck up for him against Sabes, and got ripped. 😉
      Seriously, jury is still out on him, but I like his plate approach, especially in the #2 hole where he’s going to get some good pitches if he’s patient. He’s not a hacker, and that’s gold in my book in this lineup…

      • blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:40 pm

        True, but you excoriated Sabes unmercifully. Sabes is a Saint in my mind. lqtm. 🙂

      • snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:49 pm

        Sabes doesn’t get canonized yet, IMO, although maybe 2010 was a miracle season.
        If he gets one more WS title, OK, definitely give him the golden sceptor or whatever it is…

    • stickman said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:45 pm

      Thanx, Steve. His minor league track record was pretty telling in that assessment. Maybe SF scouts will ignore Sabean’s slip and start coming down strong on drafting more contact hitters. My ideal lineup mix would be 5 hitters to three hackers. With Panik, Belt, Posey and to some degree, Crawford, Giants are gradually getting there. Pence may go on to prove that creative hackery is a weapon at leadoff.

  50. snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    I’m good with taking Timmy out at 100 pitches. 6+ innings, only one run. That’s 23 innings or some such and giving up just one run. Best stretch for Lincecum in seemingly forever. We’ll see if he can keep that up against somebody other than the Cards and Pads. The Pen needs to shut this puppy down…

    • blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:44 pm

      Yeah. psychologically (for him) it would have been better, especially since his next opponent is Goldilocks and the Snakes.

      • snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:50 pm

        Yeah, if Goldsheise goes 0-4 in Timmy’s next start against the DBs, I’m a believer that something in the Force for Timmy has turned…

    • blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:53 pm

      Agree. I still feel Timmy is a “match up” pitcher until otherwise proven wrong. He hasn’t proved that yet in my mind.

  51. zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    Funniest thing Krukow said today; he asked Kuiper: “Are you getting excited about the All-Star game?”
    That’s a LOL, as far as I’m concerned.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:52 pm

      On so many levels too. First off, to the best of my knowledge, Kuiper was never selected to an All Star game. Two, the All star game is such a sham, I get more excited about the HR derby then I do the All Star game.

  52. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    Pitching has been here all along for the most part during this horrid 3 weeks stretch we’ve experienced. In my opinion, what we haven’t seen, is what Bochy calls, “moving the line along.” Giants have definitely done that the last 2 games.

    • zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:38 pm

      Hector joins the hit parade!

    • blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:41 pm

      Just another thought on what I said . . . With Pagan out, Panik is showing he can be the perfect replacement for Pagan’s “go go” offense.

  53. zumiee said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:53 pm


  54. mannyman46 said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    Get that fucking guy out of the game.

  55. snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    WTF are they doing with Romo? He is brutal. Take him OUT. Is Bochy trying to lose this game now?…

  56. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    Pfffttt! Romo, Romo, Romo . . . Damn.

  57. Bozo said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:55 pm


  58. snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    I don’t understand this. At all. Bochy risks the game trying to massage Romo’s psyche. The dude has sucked for several weeks, and sucks again. Put him on the DL with a bad elbow, and get him a rehab deal in the minors to get his groove back on. We’re getting good karma back, and Romo is a stumbling block…

  59. stickman said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:00 pm

    Win some lose some. Bochy may have passed Lineup-101 today, but again today he got a flat, farting “F” on not making Romo his slop-time fill in and not relegating him to late innings.

    • snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:03 pm

      Agreed. He can’t be trusted. He’s got nuttin’. As Lurie said earlier today, LHBs are eating his lunch. That HR by lefty Grandal was a hit-me slider right over the plate above the knees that didn’t slide. IMO Romo comes in only if the squad is ahead by 5 or more. Up by just 4 in the 8th in an away game? No way. Send him to the DL, get Kontos or somebody else (Oracle says Cordier) up to SF. Romo’s done great for the team in the past, but not now. In MLB, it’s what have you done lately…

  60. pawliekokonuts said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    Well, here I am seeing Romo’s ERA explode the same way his caloric intake would skyrocket if he won the hot-dog-eating contest at Coney Island. Yoikes.

    Thanks for all the high-fives on the Andres Torres encounter. Based on my thirty-three or so seconds, I’m still going with the decent-guy characterization. Blade’s idea for a book on him is intriguing. But it’d take hours upon hours of sitting with him and revising, revising, revising, revising. It’s all harder than I thought. I’ve been working for more than a year on a memoir of a former Dominican Irish priest-turned Episcopalian. We’ve done recordings, notes, countless meetings. Still not done. Makes me appreciate what others, like Feinstein, have done, all the more.

  61. pawliekokonuts said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    why did Morse leave early?

    • blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:09 pm

      Defense probably.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:12 pm

        pretty early; not hurt? hungover?

    • blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:13 pm

      Not certain. Sent you an email. You should still DO it.

  62. pawliekokonuts said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    I deplore MLB’s NBA/NCAA/NFL-ization. Selection Sunday? Pleeeze.

  63. Bozo said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    Two in a row.

  64. pawliekokonuts said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    Victory snatched from the jaws of defeat!

  65. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:14 pm

    Not certain, but have they even had 2 in a row as Bozo indicated in the last month????

    • pawliekokonuts said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:20 pm

      first since 2 against AZ in June, i believe

  66. DJLoo said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    One more real good outing and Timmy’s an All Star…….maybe.

    • snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:25 pm

      I’d rather he have the rest…

  67. snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    Feels good to win 2 in a row.
    Putting a few hits together is a good sign, though 8 total is not exactly raking. Morse hitting is a good thing.
    Belt coming back seems to be a tonic for this lineup. Good. Casilla with a nice close job. Now, up against it vs. the A’s. Gotta play good, clean ball and stellar pitching in order to win against the A’s.
    And, please — nomo Romo…

    • stickman said, on July 6, 2014 at 5:37 pm

      Yer right about Belt. Batting third, as he should be, BB9 has all the earmarks of a prime run-producer. With Posey batting cleanup and then backed up by Pablo (whenever it happens) and Morse this is a strong lineup 1-6. Crawford heats up now and again and without a ton of pressure on him even Blanco will occasionally contribute. Clearest indicator of lineup strength 1-6 is copping that early lead. Except for calm, cool, Greg Maddux types Reverend Underpants can drive pitchers crazy in that leadoff spot. Ultimately Panik will even hit those cerebral hurlers. Belt is a near constant threat and Posey seconds him perfectly.

  68. snarkk said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:40 pm

    Not one mention of Romo on the KNBR radio post-game yuk show with the guys…

  69. willedav said, on July 6, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    Good game from Panik, agreed tho I didn’t see any of this. Pence and Belt at the top, yeah.
    With a LU of Pence Belt Posey (out today) Sandoval (out today) Morse Crawford, he does not deserve to hit in front of any of those guys. The double was his first XBH since the one he got vs. AZ. I understand fans liking him and all the cutesy expressions around his name, but I’m not having Murph polish his plaque for Cooperstown just yet.

    Where was Posey supposed to play today, 3b? Let Hector C Lincecum, that seems to be working fine at least lately. I’m fine with Posey sitting on those days, and otherwise with Belt back he can C everyone else full time
    What happens to Molina or anyone else is irrelevant, and the less I see of Hector the better…I’d dump this guy in a heartbeat for a Kurt Suzuki type or even Susac if they think he’s ready. But Posey catches.

  70. stickman said, on July 6, 2014 at 5:48 pm

    Though his cogitational process may be as slow as his patience with established vets is long BB15 may have digested a lesson or two today. Besides gradually establishing a more productive lineup Bochy may have learned that Romo is ready for a spell on the DL and that Casilla has what it takes to close. Because Santiago has proven that ability in the past it should not be a major adjustment for the manager.

    Two wins in a row may be more significant than many observers would consider ~ particularly with this team which had fallen so far and so fast while including a goodly number of champion quality position players and pitchers. Essentially everything that could go wrong did go wrong ~ starting with those Romo stinkers vs the Rox. Things simply spiraled downwards from there on. If the starting pitching maintains their recent excellence there is no reason to not believe that this outfit is capable of leaving the LaBumbos in their rear-view mirrors before the month is over. We look to have a decent road team. After the recent mess, however, a 9.5 game bulge is but a dissipative dream.

  71. Flavor said, on July 6, 2014 at 6:56 pm

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  72. […] The rest of the article can be found here: THE San Francisco Giants Blog […]

    • snarkk said, on July 7, 2014 at 11:18 am

      Is this Dugout blog an MLB sponsored blog for each team, or what?
      I linked to it, can’t tell what it is or who runs/sponsors it..

  73. Macdog said, on July 7, 2014 at 5:28 am

    Another solid outing for Timmy. It’s now the point in the season when that team with players I’ve never heard of always seems to get the better of the Giants.

  74. Nipper said, on July 7, 2014 at 7:42 am

    Batten down the hatches the Giants must play the tough A’s. I hope they don’t get embarrassed. Please Giants play your A game for once.

  75. willedav said, on July 7, 2014 at 8:38 am

    I’m not buying the argument that Bochy is getting dumber in Giants slide. He’s gotten flak for taking Morse out too early, so he left him in Sat game in the 9th and he screwed up a pop fly that could have been disastrous. After he had hit dramatic HR. Hey, if you want him to hit you have to take his OF play. Bochy is fine–it’s his players that need to get back into the winning groove of doing the right things.

    Giants played all week and will play all this week without a day off, so there is nothing wrong with sitting Posey with Hector catching him. Posey has played more and more since sitting a couple days with back issue and has regained his hitting stroke too. He’ll likely C all this week except for the one TL start.

    Bochy sat Panik for a day when the kid went 0 for ATT and he has responded with a couple good games at the plate. Nothing wrong with trying to get bench guys ABs–it’s up to them to make them good ones.

    And I’ll say the same for use of Romo yesterday. Night before Machi had been awful coughing up a lead and giving up 3 rockets, double triple deep sac fly that put Giants in a hole before 9th. Romo got 2 outs night before in clutch situation Sat and Sunday had 9 pitch battle with Quentin whom he had k’d day before with the slider when game was on the line. He couldn’t locate it vs. the LH and it cost him. 4 run lead was perfect time to give him an opp—again it’s up to Romo to make the right pitches and get his slider at back foot, not in hittable zone.

    It’s the same thing that cost Street a save Saturday, and has bedeviled likes of Cain and Lincecum too. This is a Rags fix job, not a DL move. And I wouldn’t trust Gutierrez late game either,

    And Pence at the top has been great, hacker or no. I don’t care about patience, just about results. Hacker that Pence is his OB is tops on team, he hustles every hit or dribbler, and with LH Belt behind him those 2 can be instant offense.

  76. Bozo said, on July 7, 2014 at 9:44 am

    On Romo, I found these splits to be kinda nutty.
    Buster 22.1 6 7 2.42 13 4 2 16 .167 .359 .566
    Hector 11.1 14 14 11.12 14 3 7 12 .304 .522 ..940

  77. unca_chuck said, on July 7, 2014 at 10:03 am

    Kinda? That’s some fucked up shit. Hector needs to talk to Posey about this.

    I’m pleasantly surprised by how well Pence is doing in the lead-off spot. I heard yesterday he got 5 infield singles last week. Blanco doesn’t have 5 all year.

    • snarkk said, on July 7, 2014 at 11:13 am

      The brain trust has to know those numbers on the catchers. Obviously, the first thing that comes to mind is bad pitch calls in the various hitting situations. But, ultimately the pitcher has control over what he throws, right? And, Romo has been throwing some really ugly stuff the past few weeks. Hector is now Timmy’s personal catcher, and Timmy just went through a stretch of 23 innings giving up only one run. So, the pitch calls must be OK there…

      • unca_chuck said, on July 7, 2014 at 11:25 am

        Well, if Romo isn’t getting his slider to bite, and Hector keeps calling for it . . .

        It seems too big a difference to be simply random.

      • unca_chuck said, on July 7, 2014 at 11:27 am

        It’s the same as Timmy relying too much on his fastball in his struggles these past couple years.

        If Posey senses he’s not able to throw it, he needs to adjust to that fact. Not let Timmy override him.

  78. Chipower9 said, on July 7, 2014 at 10:32 am

    Was out of pocket over the weekend, so went back and read through the last two threads.

    Pawlie – nice piece on Andres. Thanks for sharing, and giving him thanks for his contributions. Very cool.

    Nice to get two wins in a row. Hoping it is something on which they can build. That will be tough against the fucking A’s.

    When it was first mentioned about putting Pence in the lead-off, many were questioning this move. I liked it from the get-go (given what Bochy had to work with right now), as he has either the highest or 2nd highest OBP on the team. Dude get’s on base and is hitting near .300. Until there is a better option (Pagan is back, etc.) then Pence makes absolute sense there. If Panik can get some consistency, then I like Belt in the 3 hole. But if the kid struggles, move him down to the 7 or 8 hole and let Belt hit 2nd.

    Nice post WillieD (8:38). I agree with a lot of your points…especially regarding a lot of this being on the players (and not making Bochy the scapegoat).

  79. snarkk said, on July 7, 2014 at 11:06 am

    Bochy’s not a scapegoat. But he has to share at least some blame, because when they win, he gets a ton of credit. It works both ways, doesn’t it? He’s getting some flak on the chat shows due to some of his moves, but it’s still pretty tame criticism. His handling of Romo is certainly fair game, as are some of his lineup moves, and stubbornly sticking with Blanco as leadoff. Yeah, he can’t hit and catch for the players, but as I’ve agitated before, he’s not a guy that punches a lot of different buttons when the crap hits the fan, he’s reactive. Bochy’s got capital to burn, sure, with two WS wins in his big cap. But, in most fanbases elsewhere around the country, you lose 18 of 23 (most of those at home) and any manager is going to take a way bigger PR hit than Bochy’s been taking…

    • Chipower9 said, on July 7, 2014 at 11:17 am

      Absolutely snarkk – he cannot go without some criticism over the course of the nosedive. His staying with Blanco for so long is probably the one that stands out most to me. But more than not, it is more on the players than the manager.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on July 7, 2014 at 1:14 pm

        I listened to and watched Bochy on a recent postgame presser. Of course he includes himself in the criticism. He’s pretty forthcoming in taking responsibility, in my view. But he can’t play nine positions. In fact, he’s not allowed even to play one. Not one! I tellya.

      • snarkk said, on July 7, 2014 at 1:35 pm

        It’s smart that he publicly takes some responsibility. Take some pressure off players, that’s good managing, and good PR, too. I just find it amazing that some fans, particularly zealots on the radio chat shows, extoll the virtues of Bochy — the under the radar genius — when the team flies high, but when when the team crashes, it’s a sacrilege to suggest Bochy has made mistakes and shoulders even a small portion of the blame…

  80. pawliekokonuts said, on July 7, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    Sometimes I find real treats in SI. Current cover story on Ernie Banks is pretty decent. Is there a classier baseball icon and ambassador for the game than Mr. Cub? Stretch McCovey. Not many others. Well, Hank Aaron, too. A terrific piece on him in the same issue. A photo of Hammerin’ Hank kissing a bat that is infinitely suitable for framing and worth buying the issue for.

    • snarkk said, on July 7, 2014 at 2:56 pm

      Pawlie, I subscribed to SI for decades since I was a late teenager, then about 10 years ago I just dropped it. It seemed to get thinner, more ads, fewer stories; the formatting and types of stories just got too “glib” or shallow for me, is the best way I can describe it. Don’t know if the advance of the internet had something to do with it, or new ownership, or what. I don’t even know who owns it now. Had great writing back in the old days – Frank Deford was the king, IMO. Rom Fimrite would add occasional Bay Area stories, and Paul Zimmerman was the NFL guru. Way way back Dan Jenkins did the golf beat, hands down the best golf writer ever (if you ever have a chance to listen to him interviewed, do it — he’s a hoot and has an incredible storehouse of anecdotal stories). As a kid, I even had a letter to the editor printed in it once. I felt like I was famous. Can’t remember what it was about…

      • zumiee said, on July 7, 2014 at 3:00 pm

        That’s the trend of the paper magazine industry in general. An industry in DEEP trouble. You know when you can subscribe to Time Magazine or National Geographic at a one-year rate of $20, those magazines are really struggling to get subscribers.
        The internet is the main villain probably. So much is available for free basically.

      • snarkk said, on July 7, 2014 at 3:47 pm

        I used to like Tiger Woods, I paid attention. No more. It wasn’t just the marriage and ho’s business. He’s just been revealed to be a real jerk in various ways, and apparently has been pretty much all along. To wit, more on the writer Dan Jenkins. From the above linked article:

        “In 2001, Jenkins told the magazine, “Only two things can stop Tiger — injury or a bad marriage.” To quote a Fort Worth overheard, he was both right. In 2010, Woods compared his injury comeback to Hogan’s. “Hogan nearly died,” Jenkins remarked. “All Tiger did was damn near get syphilis.” It wasn’t that Jenkins thought Woods had become evil. That would turn Earl Woods’s hook into a slice. No, Jenkins’s revelation was simpler. “He is a hell of a talent,” Jenkins told me. “He just happens to be an asshole.” “

  81. snarkk said, on July 7, 2014 at 1:47 pm

    Generally, the A’s v. Giants games have been very competitive over the years (ignore the 1989 WS with the Steroidal A’s). This A’s team is on a roll, and just swept 4 from the bashing Blue Jays, holding them to just 4 runs total for the series. But, with two wins coming in, the Giants could have some momentum to take a game or two of these four…

  82. zumiee said, on July 7, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    A’s won the ’89 World Series against the Giants, but the Giants defeated the A’s in the 1905 World Series. So, the World Series score is 1-1 between the two franchises. 🙂

    • snarkk said, on July 7, 2014 at 3:08 pm

      Great info, zum.
      What a story it would be to meet the A’s again in the WS. They’ve got a great thing going, but have had trouble getting very far in the playoffs under Beane. The Giants guys are experienced at dealing with that pressure, and that means something, IMO. Would love to kick A’s butt in a WSeries…

      • Chipower9 said, on July 7, 2014 at 3:10 pm

        Agreed on wanting to kick the A’s asses. I am not one of those NorCal fans who hates on the A’s. I actually like their club, but when they’re up against the Orange and Black…all bets are off.

      • snarkk said, on July 7, 2014 at 3:23 pm

        I’m w/you Chi. I don’t hate the A’s, nor do I particularly like them. They’re kickin’ butt, so I respect the team and its management. Melvin is a good manager. Ex Giant. 😉 I’m not into the AL, never have been. If somebody has to win the AL title, might as well be them, IMO. They’ve got a small, but devoted fanbase, many of whom seem to hate the Giants, for some reason. Jealousy or envy, I suspect — and who can blame them with a toilet bowl ballpark, bad owners who diss them, and a radio station you can barely tune in when you’re inside the A’s own ballpark…

  83. Chipower9 said, on July 7, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Let’s get it on!

    1. Hunter Pence (R) RF
    2. Joe Panik (L) 2B
    3. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
    4. Buster Posey (R) C
    5. Michael Morse (R) DH
    6. Tyler Colvin (L) LF
    7. Gregor Blanco (L) CF
    8. Joaquin Arias (R) 3B
    9. Brandon Crawford (L) SS

  84. Chipower9 said, on July 7, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    Scutaro to be in the Grizzlies line-up tonight. Hell, if all goes well, he could be back with the big club, soon. I said a week or so ago that when that happens, I would prefer to see Arias or Adrianza go, as I like the potential pop that Hicks brings. But after watching him the past few games…I just cannot bear to watch him K (especially during key scoring opportunities). Still on the fence actually. Arias hasn’t had an extra base hit in like…well, forever.

    • snarkk said, on July 7, 2014 at 3:40 pm

      Arias had a double a few games back. First xtra this season. It was easy to miss. He’s basically the human grounder to SS. This Scutaro thing is interesting. From what I’ve read, he’s some better, but basically just going to gut it out as long as he can with the Big Club. Sounds like more of a PHer type deal. Seems OK to me, his presence should help, though I’m likely risking James’ wrath about chemistry. Adrianza is on the DL, they’ll have to make a decision on him soon. I don’t see a place for him on the 25, just waive him and see what happens. If he gets claimed, whatever…

  85. DJLoo said, on July 7, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    And if it doesn’t go well, they better make a move for Utley.

  86. unca_chuck said, on July 7, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    Yikes. Pablo needs to get well. Just when Belt comes back, he gets dinged.

    Arias had that great run month a couple years ago but nothing since.

    • snarkk said, on July 7, 2014 at 4:04 pm

      Of all the regulars, who would we predict as the guy most likely to be out for injury because he got hit by a pitch while swinging at it?…

  87. Bozo said, on July 7, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    Sorry all, I flat out hate the A’s. When they had the Series against the Dodgers, I really didn’t know who to root for. I was down south for a 9er Rams game during that series, 9ers won A’s didn’t no cocktails on that flight home (I was pissed). I hate (yes, hate) that the Chron doesn’t have them in the back pages, I hate that the best baseball writer for the Chron (IMO) gets the A’s and the Giants get (again, IMO) the laziest. I think Shea is a pretty good writer but he’s an A’s fan so even when he gets the SF assignment, he gets his digs in. Hey the top of the paper says San Francisco, Oakland has their own rag. A’s fans used to rip us about Candlestick and now rip us for the diamond that sits on the Bay. Fuck them. Whenever I see one of those combined A’s SF hats I go bonkers, chose a fucking team. Luckily I won’t be watching tonight, so y’all can enjoy the game without my bias rants. Although, just to be clear about my feelings about the A’s. Fuckem and their fans.

    • unca_chuck said, on July 7, 2014 at 4:34 pm

      Come on, tell us how you really feel. You hate the A’s so much you won’t watch the Giants play them?

      That’s a little extreme! Besides, we love biased rants here.

  88. Flavor said, on July 7, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    new thread.

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