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Satisfying Win

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 2, 2014

Though the Mets aren’t very good, they definitely present a few constant land mines for a team like the Giants (see: Luke Duda) so scoring a W last night was an important first step towards winning this road trip. This is a HUGE start for Master Peavy who is 1-10 this season and needs to stop giving up home runs (again, see: Luke Duda).

This is going to either be another baby step forward game or a “sun has set on our season” game. If Peavy can keep the ball in the yard we might win a close one. deGrom has been a surprise tough cookie this year but I don’t trust guys who’s last name start lower case. You’ve all gotta be with me on that, right? lqtm

 

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  1. willedav said, on August 2, 2014 at 8:20 am

    Nice to watch Cubs highlights from Latrine last night as Haren loses again 8-2.
    Haren also got thrown out at 1b by Nate after a line drive to RF, second time that’s happened this season.
    For all the guys LA was rumored to be in on, all they got was Darwin Barney, who is in AAA.

    Donnie was cryptic about Haren’s future, making comment about how Drew Butera (back up C who has already pitched twice this year) isn’t up to pitch count yet. Story and highlights including when Parra threw out Haren from RF earlier in season on Big League Stew link I saw on Yahoo.

    Nate, btw, 0-3 last night and now batting .195. wow.

    Speaking of Cubs, I was more interested in likes of Valbuena (potential replacement if Pablo leaves) Ruggiano or Coughlan than Bonifacio, who hit 8th spot for Braves yesterday.
    Great game for the new kid! I can live with kid combo at 2b as long they play D. Return of Belt and Pagan to LU hopefully imminent. Giants now 10 over on the road. Go get some more!

  2. stickman said, on August 2, 2014 at 8:22 am

    Flav: Don’t know how you do it. You are indefatigable, man. Yes, a lot rides on Peavey’s performance this evening. Should he even come close to Vogie’s performance last night we have a really good chance of taking this series. This one is critical to the road-trip because Milwaukee is next and that bunch at home, particularly, is loaded for bear. Hoping that by then Pagan is back and Belt has settled back into the groove, getting his timing back in Muttsville.

    Nice to see that skinny, fast kid infielder come through with his first hit and RBI right there in his premiere appearance in The Show. Way he was raking the pitching-potent Eastern League everything points to this one being a keeper. Waay early to say for sure but its possible SF has actually developed another position player who can do well in the bigs.

    • Flavor said, on August 2, 2014 at 8:51 am

      Thanks. And I’m still on vacation, too. Spending a week in black butte, Oregon. Golf. Sun. Swimming. Hiking. All good outdoorsy shit.

      • stickman said, on August 2, 2014 at 11:42 am

        Jeeze, Flav. Had i known you have some vacation time i’d have welcomed you up here to the Northwoods to be junior assistant spade and wheelbarrow operator. Deer flies are tailing off a bit now and mosquitoes are easing off somewhat, so it is almost tolerable now. County fair time up here for a major slice of Americana and Deep Lake is nice for a dip. Should get you toughened up in no time with all they physical and plenty of good home-cooked organic eats.

        I kid you not. This assignment would be no tougher than fraternity hell week and waaaay easier than Marine Corps bootcamp.

      • Flavor said, on August 2, 2014 at 9:42 pm

        thanks. I’m gonna stick with this gig. I posted a couple pics on facebook from the golf course, friend me and you can see all the fun! craigvaughan77

  3. willedav said, on August 2, 2014 at 8:49 am

    Looked up some Mets numbers on B/R, following of which stuck out:
    As a team they are 14th in league slugging and BA, 10th in runs 12th in HRs.
    Pitching they are nearer middle range, and park is big of course and favors pitching.

    But that doesn’t explain David Wright to me, signed through 2020 to humongous contract.
    .722 OPS this year, 450 ABs 8 HRs. 9 for last 53 with 0 HRs 4 rbis in last 12 games. Hits behind Granderson and Murphy (who is having nice year at .295) and ahead of Duda and his 20 HRS .500 slugging.

    Wright is hitting .400 vs. LHP but .232 vs. RHP.
    Road numbers actually worse than home, .683 OPS road/.763 home. 2 HRs in 211 ABs on road. WTF? He’s on pace for worst year of his entire career…hope he doesn’t wake up til Giants leave town.

    • Flavor said, on August 2, 2014 at 9:23 am

      Wright’s shoulder is f-ed up. He’s playing through cortisone shots that don’t seem to be working too well

  4. Nipper said, on August 2, 2014 at 8:56 am

    Mets suck……perhaps another win…..today.

  5. Flabloxxxl said, on August 2, 2014 at 9:33 am

    Where has Sabean been hiding Frank Duffy all these years? Wherever it’s been, you gotta admire someone who can make a comeback at age 67. Maybe, with a little luck, they’ll flip him for Sam McDowell.

  6. blade3colorado said, on August 2, 2014 at 9:41 am

    Agree deGrom is filthy, especially over the last month, holding a 1.39 ERA with 38 strikeouts in 32.1 July innings. This is exacerbated by how untouchable he has been at home (1.83 ERA over six starts). Frankly, he has been excellent and the Giants will have their work cut out for them, as they rank 26th in baseball with a .292 wOBA versus right-handers this season. In short, not a good match up at all. 😦

  7. blade3colorado said, on August 2, 2014 at 9:51 am

    File this in the “Moot Point” folder . . . I was adamant about Uggla not coming here, but the Giants took a flyer on him at basically no cost to their hide, so no biggie that he is gone. However, in the four games where he went 0 for 11, he faced Greinke, Kershaw, Ryu, and Liriano and it should be noted that essentially no one on the Giants did jack shit offensively either. In my mind, the horrendous defense (3 errors) was the reason to release his ass, not his offense.

    • James said, on August 2, 2014 at 10:22 am

      And one of the errors was made on the one hop throw home following a great diving stop. The whole affair just looks silly, from signing him in the first place to releasing him after such a short trial. He’s almost certainly washed up as a hitter, but it’s unlikely his defensive skills had eroded to a point where he’s constantly making errors on routine plays.

  8. snarkk said, on August 2, 2014 at 10:29 am

    Parachuting in here while still north of the 48th parallel. I see Cain is to get surgery now for the “loose bodies”. How many times in the past years have I yelled about cleaning those out in the offseason? Not that I’m an orthopedist, but sheez, now the Giants are paying about $8 million for Cain to sit out the rest of a season because they didn’t do what they should have done in an offseason. The Giants medicos and training staff continue their stellar work, IMO. Meanwhile, no trades by the Giants, but moving up their questionable minor league talent for OJT during a pennant drive? Yet, the A’s are in a pennant drive, and trade Cespedes anyway? Somebody’s got balls, and it ain’t Sabean. Reading the Flappers’ posts gives me a good clue about all this. How can a team 5th in MLB revenue, and sellouts for seasons manage like the Dollarstore — I don’t get it. I would have traded Pablo and gotten good prospects. Now, they’ll get a draft pick. Sweet. Sabean is managing for a one game WC berth — maybe it will work…

  9. snarkk said, on August 2, 2014 at 10:33 am

    And, from afar, that whole Uggla episode looks like a ridiculous, shot in the dark desperation move. All Flappers predicted the result, so how come Sabes took this dumpster dive? Speaks volumes about where the Giants talent pool is beyond the top starters…

  10. paulinasia said, on August 2, 2014 at 10:49 am

    It remains to be seen if management’s inaction at the trading deadline will turn out to be a masterful exercise in patience, awaiting the return of Pagan and Belt to the lineup and the return of some power to Morse’s bat, plus allowing kids like Panik and Duffy and Parker, et al, to come in and and try to productively supplant the likes of Colvin (don’t even mention Uggla, he wasn’t really even here)…. I’ve been somewhat, not doomerishly or adamantly, but somewhat critical of the inaction, but I will be the first to herald Sabean’s decisions as brilliant if in fact Pagan and Belt do return in fine form and carry the team into the playoffs. Plus picking up Peavy was a great move with Cain done (yeah, big start for Peavy coming up)….

  11. snarkk said, on August 2, 2014 at 11:36 am

    I just looked at the MLB schedule for today. There are NO early afternoon game starts on a Saturday afternoon in August. All but two games are evening starts. What’s up with that?…

    • James said, on August 2, 2014 at 11:45 am

      Humidity, another East Coast bias.

    • stickman said, on August 2, 2014 at 11:47 am

      Baseball just ain’t what it usta be ~ B.S. (Before Selig).

    • Bozo said, on August 2, 2014 at 2:20 pm

      I’m not sure if this is the current reason, but in the past Fox held the exclusive rights for Saturday afternoon games. So, many teams started to play their Sat. games at night to avoid televised blackouts. Whatever the reason, it pisses me off

  12. James said, on August 2, 2014 at 11:44 am

    I wonder if Sabes would have pulled the equivalent of the Beltran trade, or if the terrible deals he’s referring to were of similar magnitude, and he rejected them because, gosh, it didn’t work in 2011, ergo it won’t help in 2014.

    I like Snarkk’s Sandoval trade idea, but it would have had to happen in conjunction with bringing someone like Utley on board to compensate for the loss of offense — SF is still very much in contention, and despite the fact that Pablo isn’t the star player we’d like him to be, he’s still pretty good.

    • peets said, on August 2, 2014 at 12:51 pm

      But they were never paying the freight for Utley.

      • James said, on August 2, 2014 at 2:03 pm

        I’ll admit I don’t pay much attention to contracts, but they give up Sandoval’s salary this year and then don’t have to pay him basically what Utley makes next year, and are also not saddled with the long term Pablo deal. Utley could break down quickly, so it’s a risk . . . but assuming Utley is steady state for another year, you get as much out of him as Pablo has been delivering.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 2, 2014 at 2:18 pm

        James, I was not opposed to moving Sandoval and agree with you on the Utley/money point but who mans 3b? The club trades the suckhole of 2b for 3b? I don’t think Posey can just roll over and man the position. Especially this late in the season. Or are you thinking Utley at 3b?

      • James said, on August 2, 2014 at 3:07 pm

        Dirt, the full scenario wasn’t designed to improve the team in the immediate term, but to prevent them from losing offense the last 2 months, as you stock up on prospects in exchange for a player who is going to be pretty expensive in the long run — does that make sense?

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:56 pm

        Sure, makes sense. Still in the race though so I guess that was the big hurdle for Sabes.

  13. dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 2, 2014 at 1:12 pm

    This deGrom cat looks totally untrustworthy. Good to see Duffy (former Dirt Bag) get his first knock and RBI.

  14. Alleykat said, on August 2, 2014 at 1:20 pm

    Giants and Peavy will roll, and have a Zippy Duda Zippy Day, my oh my what a wonderful day, plenty of sunshine coming my way Zippy Duda Zippy Day!

  15. dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 2, 2014 at 1:44 pm

    Belt is back! I’d like to see him in front of Morse but hey whatever.

    Pence RF
    Crawford SS
    Posey C
    Sandoval 3B
    Morse LF
    Belt 1B
    Panik 2B
    Perez CF
    Peavy RHP

    Go Giants!

  16. blade3colorado said, on August 2, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    Timmy wont have to worry about Goldshit for the rest of this season – out with a broken hand.

    • Macdog said, on August 2, 2014 at 3:46 pm

      The crazy part is that Goldy didn’t start, not getting into the game until the top 9th.

      • blade3colorado said, on August 2, 2014 at 3:52 pm

        Yep. Seriously, I do like the guy (except when he plays us and/or impacts our division chances). Very few players play the right way the way Goldy does. He was even magnanimous towards the pitcher that hit him, saying that it was an accident, when a few of his team mates wanted to kill.

  17. Macdog said, on August 2, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    Peavy vs. deGrom: The Two Jakes.

  18. DJLoo said, on August 2, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    Who did they dump to make room for Belt?

    • DJLoo said, on August 2, 2014 at 4:26 pm

      Jarrett Parker is the answer. Hope he got laid in his one night in New York. At least he had the thrill of meeting me.

  19. Manny said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:23 pm

    This game is getting more interesting as it goes later into the game.

  20. Bozo said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    Come on Juan, this isn’t Cy deYoung pitching, get it started.

    • Bozo said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:27 pm

      Damn, that was a quick half inning.

  21. DJLoo said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    Swell catch by Pence. I remember Moises Alou trying something like that a few years ago.
    Landed him on the DL. Of course he was about 47 at the time.

    Why is Peavy allowed to go to his much? It’s cool here for August, but it ain’t chilly…

    • DJLoo said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:36 pm

      That should be “go to his mouth so much”
      Not that anyone’s reading it…

    • Bozo said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:37 pm

      I think they changed the rules on the mouth thing?

  22. Bozo said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    Hey Flap folk, if you’re following the game on the Flap but not watching, may I suggest getting thee to a TV.

    • SanDawg said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:47 pm

      Gotcha. Just taking a break from painting the laundry room. I do believe I will tune in. Well said.

  23. Bozo said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    Panda, doubles. Now get him home.

  24. DJLoo said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    What a sissy. Any hockey player shakes that off.

  25. DJLoo said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    Morse kills the perfecto…

    • DJLoo said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:53 pm

      Morse keeps the Met rally going…

  26. Bozo said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    Damn.

  27. mannyman46 said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    Fucking Morse the Sloth foot.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:03 pm

      Good one Manny (and you’re right).

  28. DJLoo said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    4-get it…

  29. Bozo said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    For those that complain when they bring Blanco in for Morse in the 7th, please take note.

  30. mannyman46 said, on August 2, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    Ballgame, the one time Bochy should of pulled Morse after six inning and he didn’t do it.

  31. Bozo said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    I am loving how fired up Peavy gets. He makes Vogs look like a laid back dude.

  32. Macdog said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    They should’ve kept Parker up and sent down Morse.

  33. DJLoo said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    Perez will send Morse to the bench when Pagan returns in Milwaukee…
    Book it!

  34. Bozo said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    Ishi comes through.

  35. blade3colorado said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    We scored. Fucking amazing.

  36. peets said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    Don’t get why they left Peeaved in

  37. Bozo said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    Well, Morse’s night is done.

  38. Bozo said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    Come on little Joe.

    • DJLoo said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:36 pm

      At least there was no suspense.

      • Bozo said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:38 pm

        Yeah, you right.

  39. blade3colorado said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    Peavy deserved better IMO.

    • DJLoo said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:36 pm

      Probably IHO, too.

      • Bozo said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:39 pm

        IMO, I agree with both youse guys.

  40. Bozo said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    Ah hell, that was a shoulda, woulda, coulda game.

  41. zumiee said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    No PH option off the bench to bat for Panik? Who was left, Susac? I might have gone Susac there.

    • Bozo said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:39 pm

      I think Blanco was.

      • DJLoo said, on August 2, 2014 at 6:42 pm

        Blanco was the only lefty according to Met announcers. I would’ve sent up Bumgarner. Fuck Panik’s feelings.

  42. Nipper said, on August 2, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Morse plays like a sack of shit on two legs. BOO HISS. Well……he has nice looking shoes. Funny how he moves like a turtle with his feet stuck in cement.

  43. WilcoJoe said, on August 2, 2014 at 10:39 pm

    “Withdrawal in disgust is not the same as apathy.”

    Zumiee should know that line. I think it sums up how most of us feel.

  44. paulinasia said, on August 2, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    That’s twice already that Peavy deserved better. He’ll start getting some wins.

  45. Rooster said, on August 3, 2014 at 12:00 am

    When Peavy gives up a hit he gets peaved. Then he gives up a run and gets more peaved, Then balls start flying all over the yard. Dude loses his cool, then loses the game. If ever there was a guy in need of a “Sports Psychologist”, it’s Peavy.

    • Nipper said, on August 3, 2014 at 3:11 am

      Cock-a-doodle-do ole Rooster. Orange and Black forever!

  46. DJLoo said, on August 3, 2014 at 3:43 am

    Sounds like one of those Direct TV commercials…

  47. Alleykat said, on August 3, 2014 at 11:06 am

    Real nice play by Franky Duffy with the shift on,kid does have good instincts at 2b. Blade mentioned he could move around the infield in a pinch, maybe just not sure of his arm strength at 3rd or SS.Panik maybe more at SS !!!
    .Belt towering 9 iron HR!! Awesome!!


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