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Game Time Thread

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 9, 2014

I know it’s probably not a popular topic here, but is there anything lamer than a bunch of idiots screaming “Get in the hole!!!!” a nano-second after a pro golfer hits his tee shot on a par 3? Is there anything more played out than this tired tradition? Have any of them ever been right, even once? Just STFU and stop drawing attention to yourself. No one cares about your call. We are watching the golf tournament……

Usually I would hope we run Shields pitch count up so we can get him out of the game and into the bullpen. But goddamn, does KC have a flame throwing bullpen or what? It seems like every guy they bring out throws 98-99…..

That’s all I got today…..

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  1. pawliekokonuts said, on August 9, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    Hmmm. I was posting and got thrown off. Let’s try again. I’m not optimistic about tonight’s game — which improves our odds. Does Tampa Bay miss Shields? Is his nickname in the clubhouse “Panty”? Gorgeous night. Going to the Chiefs’ game again. With a battery of personal-injury attorneys hahahahahaha.

  2. paulinasia said, on August 9, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    Unfortunately, drawing attention to themselves is exactly why they’re doing it. “Hey guys, I’ll be at the 13th tee in the gallery, listen for me!” Assholes. I’m surprised golf doesn’t eject clowns like that. As for the game tonight: big win. Guarantee it. Why? Because I don’t want the distance to the top to get to more than 5 games….

  3. chipower9 said, on August 9, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    Just get a fucking win and get set-up for the series win tomorrow. I dropped a tree this morning, and then went to my local watering hole for some wings and brews. I’m tired…that’s all I got. Go Giants.

    • DJLoo said, on August 9, 2014 at 3:52 pm

      Never heard “dropped a tree” here in Brooklyn. Did you really cut down a tree or is it slang for taking a huge crap?

      • pawliekokonuts said, on August 9, 2014 at 3:54 pm

        I was thinking exactly the same thing. (Though there is that novel, which I never read: “A Tree Grows in Brooklyn.”)

      • stickman said, on August 9, 2014 at 3:58 pm

        Pawlie: Read that book waaay back in the early 70’s. Can’t recall a single word. Vague recollections of the plot but i do suffer from C I O.

      • chipower9 said, on August 9, 2014 at 3:59 pm

        HA…I can see where you would be confused, Loo and Pawlie. Yes, I actually cut down (dropped) a tree. I had an oak that was leaning on my utility shed, and it had to go, so it is GONE, and my back knows it. That combined with a couple of tasty IPAs and this old boy is TIRED. Ready to just relax and see the Giants put one in the W column.

  4. chipower9 said, on August 9, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    Oh, only other thing to add is we saw Robert Cray at the Crest in Sacto last night. The dude can make a Strat sing like few others and the voice is still phenominal. I have seen him a number of times over the years and he is playing with basically the same band that he has for the past 25 years. Very good show. Had dinner at a place, Mayahuel, a couple of blocks up K Street. Very good Mexican food, and a very impressive selection of tequilas and mezcals. Certainly recommended.

  5. stickman said, on August 9, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    Certainly Bochy does not read this blog. But i did call it yesterday. Duffy in at SS today in place of Crawford who is about zero for his last infinity. He has to be tired and dragging. Dog Daze in Kansas City. With his veterans preference and all BB15 really surprised me with that totally logical move. In Duffy, Panik and Susaphone we may be looking at a big chunk of the Giants future.

    Last night’s game was a major bummer. Team is lacking full ignition. Waaaaaay too many LOB’s. We did get our sparkplug back with Pagan’s return but our generator/alternator is on the fritz with the 7 day concussion bluuz. With both Angel and BB9 in the lineup the offense is in synchromesh. Without either of them it’s a mess. Missing one and it sputters and misses ~ like last night.

    • chipower9 said, on August 9, 2014 at 4:03 pm

      Crawford very well may be tired, but I don’t think he is going anywhere. Duffy has a lot to prove…we shall see. But I think you are right…these guys could represent a chunk of the future. I certainly think Panik is on the fast track. I have said a few times on recent threads that I will be very surprised if he is not the opening day 2nd baseman for 2015.

      • James said, on August 9, 2014 at 4:16 pm

        Crawford has had a terrible stretch, but he still has better numbers right now than he’s put up the last two seasons. I expect he’ll rebound.

        As for the wunderkinds, while acknowledging the few PAs they’ve had (actually Panik already has half as many PAs as Belt had, which is surprising and depressing), it’s not like they’ve done anything yet — their stats are terrible across the board.

  6. James said, on August 9, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    Mrs. James’ brother got married in Sonoma on Labor Day weekend of 2011. He lives in Santa Barbara, and one of the wedding guests was a neighbor of his, who was seated next to us at the reception dinner party. As we were chatting, she got a text, which she responded to with great excitement: “That was my nephew. His book just got published.” Cool, what’s it about? “It’s a baseball book. He’s a pitcher for Tampa Bay, James Shields.” Cool!! Say isn’t he Aaron Rowand’s cousin? “Yes, he’s my other nephew.” Interesting, we’re big Giants fans. She then went back to texting nephew #1, and that was the end of the baseball talk.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on August 9, 2014 at 4:14 pm

      That is terrific. I forgot. I think Shields’s book had just come out, right? And he is Rohand’s cuz? Did not know that.

      • James said, on August 9, 2014 at 4:18 pm

        Yep, it came out officially on 9/5 per B&N.

  7. Flavor said, on August 9, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    horrible second half of the line up tonight. You just can’t win with that slop often enough to win consistently.

    • James said, on August 9, 2014 at 4:43 pm

      True, although if Sandoval and Posey both had OPSs in the 820 range and the #3 and 4 starters were pitching to league average, the slop wouldn’t loom nearly as large.

      • chipower9 said, on August 9, 2014 at 10:38 pm

        The operative word in that statement is “if.” As in, “if” my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle. Can only hope a number of them get and stay hot for a while.

  8. Flavor said, on August 9, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    the mound at Kauffman is lower? I thought they all had to be the same height off the ground? No?

    • James said, on August 9, 2014 at 4:23 pm

      The bullpen could all be throwing 105 . . . .

  9. Flavor said, on August 9, 2014 at 4:28 pm

    well now I feel like kind of a douchbag that I didn’t know that all mounds are not the same height from the ground. Then what was all this “lowering the mound” stuff back in the 60’s? Sorry for my ignorance, all this happened before I was born, almost all of my knowledge of the 60’s is based off what I read Loo write here…….

    • zumiee said, on August 9, 2014 at 4:50 pm

      The maximum height was lowered after ’68, but not how low it could be.
      “The top of the rubber is to be no higher than ten inches (25.4 cm) above home plate. From 1903 through 1968, this height limit was set at 15 inches, but was often slightly higher, sometimes as high as 20 inches (50.8 cm), especially for teams that emphasized pitching, such as the Los Angeles Dodgers, who were reputed to have the highest mound in the majors.”

      • DJLoo said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:01 pm

        How could there not be a minimum height? That’s not believable, zum…

    • willedav said, on August 9, 2014 at 4:51 pm

      After Gibson and his 1.12 or something ERA for an entire year, baseball decided mounds had to be lowered across the leagues to a certain height. Might have been year after Yaz lead the AL and hit .301-ish. But they are all different.

  10. Flavor said, on August 9, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    Shields made Panik, Ishikawa and Duffy look like, well, minor leaguers…..

    • willedav said, on August 9, 2014 at 4:58 pm

      Sure, but he’s pretty damn good and does that to proven ml hitters too.

      But I’m with James on the new guys—none of them are hitting much. Panik still doesn’t have any better numbers than the universally reviled Adrianza. He’s got 3 XBH in about 100 ABs and below .300 OB and slugging. So mostly he grounds out to the right side.
      I don’t have an issue with playing him (or Duffy or Susac) at all as long he catches the ball and helps turn DPs. But a guy who at this stage of his career is just not much of a hitter should not be anywhere near top of the order and hitting ahead of Pence Posey Pablo Morse Belt.

      • Alleykat said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:07 pm

        agree WillieD, you have to pay your dues and earn that higher spot, with consistent hitting.

      • salty said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:16 pm

        Yes, in even Outer Mongolia, they bitch about Adrianza. 😉

  11. Alleykat said, on August 9, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    Doesn’t Posey usually wear the black&orange hockey mask?
    Like the streamline black one he has on tonight.

  12. blade3colorado said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    Buster was fooled completely. Sigh.

  13. blade3colorado said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    Just saw Willie’s comment about MLB players being fooled by Shields. Yep, I agree. Shields is a stud and has been for quite some time.

  14. Alleykat said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    Shields has always had nasty stuff, I d take him in a heartbeat in our rotation.

  15. zumiee said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:23 pm

    Loo, I could be wrong, but I don’t think that, by rule, teams even have to HAVE a mound on the field. The first pitching mounds, in the 1800s, came because teams wanted to get an edge on other teams. It was sorta cheating. Originally, the pitching area was a flat area, like softball, and was designated by a box-shape drawn by chalk. When a starting pitcher got shelled, and removed by the manager, it was known as “getting knocked out of the box,” an expression some of us may remember still be used a few decades ago. I don’t think I’ve heard that expression in the last several years, though.

    • DJLoo said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:30 pm

      You don’t hear “hit back to the box” very much, either. I don’t know. Maybe you’re right…

    • Flavor said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:35 pm

      kinda makes sense I guess that there’s no minimum height. I mean, why would you lose leverage if you don’t have to?

  16. James said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    At least it wasn’t a 3-run HR. . . .

  17. willedav said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    Anybody still playing older than Raul Ibanez?

  18. blade3colorado said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    Gordon couldn’t have had a better pitch to hit – right in his wheelhouse.

  19. blade3colorado said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    One run is big here.

  20. Flavor said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:31 pm

    I’m getting tired of Kruk and Flemm jizzing all over themselves over Shields. He’s a good pitcher. But they’re talking about him like he’s Cy Young. Coming into tonight’s game, he’d won 2 of his last 9 starts…..

    • DJLoo said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:35 pm

      Well, they’re used to Peavy and Cain…

      • Flavor said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:36 pm

        and they’re conveniently forgetting that nearly half the line up should be in Fresno

  21. DJLoo said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    The Hunter Pence sign craze is getting old fast…

  22. zumiee said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    According to Wiki, here’s how the 60′ 6″ distance is attained. I didn’t know that it’s the distance to the BACK of the plate.
    The pitching rubber “measures 6 inches (15 cm) front-to-back and 2 feet (61 cm) across, the front of which is exactly 60 feet, 6 inches (18.4 m) from the rear point of home plate. This peculiar distance was set by the rulemakers in 1893, not due to a clerical or surveying error as popular myth has it, but intentionally.”

  23. Flavor said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    “one mistake at the belt and he paid the ultimate price with it.”—Kruk
    Really? Hudson died? I thought he just gave up a home run.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:48 pm

      This line is good, but I about dropped out of my chair laughing after reading, “and they’re conveniently forgetting that nearly half the line up should be in Fresno.”

      Sent you an email.

  24. Flavor said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:47 pm

    this is getting out of control. No more Hunter Pence signs, I haven’t read a funny one yet.

  25. Flavor said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    Maybe Morse should start trying to take more walks. He seems to swing at every single pitch the pitcher wants him to swing at with predictable results……

  26. blade3colorado said, on August 9, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    Wheels are following off of Hudson.

  27. Alleykat said, on August 9, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    Ballgame.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 9, 2014 at 6:04 pm

      I think you’re right AK. Nothing I’ve seen tonight from the Giants shows me they can even hit the ball off a tee. Pfffttt.

      • Alleykat said, on August 9, 2014 at 6:11 pm

        So true Blade.
        Shields with that power pen arms, no contest,

  28. Macdog said, on August 9, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    Re the Pence signs: I saw that guy in the main entrance at Citi Field, and was very tempted to go up and tell him he’s not very funny. But it looked like he was getting interviewed, so I let it go.

  29. blade3colorado said, on August 9, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    When “feast or famine” Moustakas is getting hits, you know it’s over.

  30. salty said, on August 9, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    So, looking ahead to next year…..

    • DJLoo said, on August 9, 2014 at 6:18 pm

      It might be worse…

  31. Flavor said, on August 9, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    ugly. Giants can’t beat AL teams with the shit LU they keep throwing out there. And there’s nothing really that can be done unless Sabean makes a deal. Otherwise, he needs to wise up and stop building these 10 cent benches.

    • Alleykat said, on August 9, 2014 at 6:23 pm

      Sabean making a deal?
      That will be the day.Were stuck with this turd LU the rest of the way!

  32. blade3colorado said, on August 9, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    The only good news for me is that Bochy pulled Hudson. I had him starting on one of my FL teams, so he escapes with a 4.50 ERA and 1.00 WHIP . . . Could have been much, much worse. 🙂

  33. Alleykat said, on August 9, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    When it’s time for a change, think spee de oil change.
    Man they even look terrible on cut offs , a real bad news bears bunch.

  34. blade3colorado said, on August 9, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    Shit, KC is worse then middle of the pack in all major MLB hitting categories; and, middle of the pack in MLB pitching categories . . . They’re also in 2nd place in the AL central. Don’t really have a point, except it’s depressing on how we’re getting schooled in this series.

    • Alleykat said, on August 9, 2014 at 6:48 pm

      Well the one thing there good at,is if they get the lead thru 5 or 6 innings that BP will shut you down,

  35. Nipper said, on August 9, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    Giants not up to AL standards. Sniff…..

    • chipower9 said, on August 9, 2014 at 10:45 pm

      Fuck the junior circuit and the DH…

  36. Flabloxxxl said, on August 9, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    Not even Frank Duffy was able to make a difference tonight.

  37. Macdog said, on August 9, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    Royally feeble.

  38. Alleykat said, on August 9, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    So with are shit Inept LU looking down right feeble, good chance they sweep are asses and complete the “Royal Flush”

  39. chipower9 said, on August 9, 2014 at 10:34 pm

    Well, I hope my prediction for the year (NL West winners), most recently predicted within the last week, is better than my prediction for a 2-1 series win in KC. I turned the damned thing off after the 7th. Fuck that shit…give up four at that point down 1-0. And down 1-0…that’s another story…another game without a damned run. Pa-fucking-thetic. Hoping for a win and the salvaging of a .500 road trip.

    And not really dooming on the season. There are still 45 games left, but they have got to find a way to score some runs, and to do it regularly. This shit of late is just brutal to watch. Time to find another gear and rip-off a nice little win streak (but seriously starting to wonder if this team has it in them to do exactly that).

    Wash it off and get a win tomorrow.


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