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Once Upon a Time….

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 11, 2014

Everyone remembers The Bowker Gang. There was, of course, John Bowker himself. Brian Bocock. Dan Ortmeier. Manny Burriss. Todd Linden. There were others. They were bad asses who couldn’t hit an mlb breaking ball. The Bowker Gang. They’d ruin you in a dark ally.

This year we have….The Panik Attack. Joe Panik is their shaky leader. Adam Duvall. Andrew Susac. Matt Duffy. Throw in Yo Yo Perez for an even five. These guys came on suddenly, without warning, much like a real panic attack. Even though it’s not their fault, they shouldn’t even be here, they’e part of a team that is causing Giants fans a deepening sense of impending doom. And though these feelings aren’t real, that’s what it’s like to be a Giants fan these days…..

I completely feel Zumiee’s excellent POTD. Last spring, in order to properly celebrate Brandon Belt’s strong start, I threatened to rip a ferocious beat all over the inside of James’ house, with Snarkk promising to be right behind me. James and his wife hastily rummaged for the copious amounts of plastic wrap that would have been needed to cover their valuables.

It was a great time to be a Giants fan. Seems like a million years ago. Time to put away the plastic wrap till next Spring.

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  1. Flabloxxxl said, on August 11, 2014 at 6:48 am

  2. Alleykat said, on August 11, 2014 at 7:14 am

    It brings so much confidence in Giant fans to see Sabean’s best move these days called the “Fresno Trainwreck” as he brings back Adam Duvall and scuttles out Juan Perez again. Does it really matter? Possible better Offense ,over better Defense, whatever..

  3. gianthead said, on August 11, 2014 at 8:03 am

    Where do we go from here?

    The 2010 run was improbable in my mind and with a history of always coming up short, I was prepared for the same then and beating a really good Phillies team was quite a shock. And then to beat a pretty darn good Rangers team seemed miraculous at that time. But what a ride. A lifelong journey to get to the top of the mountain was finally achieved and we could all revel in that long awaited achievement.

    Then came a probably more improbable run in 2012. Those come from behind series wins against the Reds and then then the Cards (especially with the key win coming on the road in a Game 5 by Barry Zito of all failures) and then sweeping the Tigers behind players like Marco Scutoro was really the icing on the 2010 cake.

    So when 2013 struck, I could hardly rise to caring about a bad season. We had two World Series wins in hand.

    Now comes 2014 and the hot start with people like Michael Morse leading the way seemed as improbable as 2010 and 2012. But when June hit it was like watching the disease inside a patient. You knew the patient was sick but it was like seeing the rot from the inside in seeing what our lineup was truly made of.

    We get signs of recovery like the Mets series but then see the true fatally sick patient in the last Dodgers and this last Royals series. As I kept saying last year, the construct of our lineup was fatally flawed and even with Pagan back, batting Pence second is nonsensical. If Panik is going to a true big leaguer, he is going to be the typical #2 hitter. So let’s see if he can handle it and then allow Pence to be in a run-producing spot.

    We got more out of Morse than I thought we would. Sabean has stayed pat but I think his hands have been officially tied by ownership.

    The mistake was the team trying to take care of all these world series heroes beyond what was sensible from a payroll and future team needs standpoint. Pagan getting 4 years, Scutoro for 3, Lincecum getting two years for what $45 million, all bad management decisions.

    And now we cant trade the two big pitching contracts with Cain’s injury and Lincecum’s salary. After watching Romo in NY live last Monday, he will never be a closer for us without another pitch. Our hands are tied and Panda is going to get paid and we will have to meet his demands. And our farm with what we have seen with Duvall, Duffy, etc seems as weak as Flav’s Bowker Gang…full of flaws…I see next year to be much like this year, but they may be able to start the house cleaning…

    • zumiee said, on August 11, 2014 at 9:04 am

      I think Lincecum’s deal is 2 years/$35 million, but your point is well taken.

  4. willedav said, on August 11, 2014 at 8:12 am

    Well, the kids yesterday (plus Blanco) scored 3 drove in 3 and accounted for 6 of 12 base runners (8 hits 4 BBs).
    Bottom line, the vet every day regulars haven’t pulled their weight. Yesterday 4-18 1 run 1 rbi, and getting Pagan back hasn’t ignited anything. With Belt out, best LU might have Posey at 1b and Susac at C. 2b/SS is a whatev right now.

    Sabes had all last off season to get help anywhere and Morse was all he got. Rios and Byrd have been available for a long time–didn’t Pirates grab Byrd late last year on waivers? Guys like Gentry and Bourjos were acquired in off season by others with OF issues. Scut he knew about ages ago.

    I still think Paul is right about one guy being potential spark as next Cody Ross, and as Loo pointed out he wasn’t picked up til late August and didn’t do much initially. Thing is, Giants are still right in thick of things—Braves looked horrible after losing 8 straight (swept by Padres), and then take the series vs. Nats. LA lost to the Brewers too and have to go to ATL with Correia and Fausto whomever in the rotation and Hanley on the DL again. Cards got smoked twice in a row by Balt. Pads whipped Pirates 8-2 yesterday and won that series too.

    But this weekend they failed the eye test completely. Hope they look and play a lot better vs. a couple bottom feeders like ChiSox and Phils this week. Time was, at home they ate teams like this for lunch…good ones too.

  5. dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 11, 2014 at 8:21 am

    Caught the Krukow segment this morning. As I was stabbing myself in the face with a fork he said something that made sense. “When this team isn’t hitting it doesn’t have a way to get on base.” Well, I’ll be. I wonder how else could they get on base? This is the fundamental flaw with Sabean’s “Do Some Damage” approach to the offense. The LU goes cold and nothing happens. Is there less than nothing? Because that keeps happening too. It’s good to see some BB on last night and some actual runs scored. Gotta find something positive I suppose.

  6. Flavor said, on August 11, 2014 at 8:40 am

    not winning a series against a team with a winning record in 2+ months is the real sign here. We need to stop fooling ourselves by saying things like, “we’re still in this because other teams haven’t run away with it.” Regardless of how many games back we are, our record is skewed because of all those wins we piled up early in the season–when we had a different team. We may be only 4.5 games out but THIS TEAM as it is currently constructed and playing right now is more like 20 games out.

    • willedav said, on August 11, 2014 at 8:54 am

      I understand how you feel (“currently constructed and playing right now”), but I just don’t think so. LA could have buried SF, but they lost series to good teams too and have significant injuries. And Giants, for the next month, have 7 games vs. the Sherps and their next 3 opponents are White Sox Phils and Cubs. That’s 15 games vs. chump teams as opposed to 9 vs. likes of Nats Brews Tigers.

      Run off a win streak (10-5 say), you stay right in it. Baggs column reinforces this—Giants still have DBax Pads and Sherps in West, and even last year they lit these guys up. Maybe they need to cue up that pence speech about Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.

  7. zumiee said, on August 11, 2014 at 9:10 am

    Of interest on TV tonight, Braves vs. Dodgers, and then later, a new episode of Under The Dome! What dumb decisions will the residents of Chester’s Mill make tonight?! Some TV critics now theorize that the Dome must have been put there as a secret government project to keep the low-IQ DNA of Chester’s Mill from infiltrating the rest of the nation! Stay tuned!

  8. Bozo said, on August 11, 2014 at 9:34 am

    Note to self: If winning a World Series was so easy, it wouldn’t have taken us 56 years to do it. Sabean, Bochy and Staff, 2. The rest of SF Giant ‘s GMs, Managers and staff, 0.
    With that reminder, guess I’ll pick up my towel and put it back in my pocket. Still got time to turn this around.

  9. unca_chuck said, on August 11, 2014 at 9:56 am

    The fucked up thing is, this IS the team that won so many games early on. Minus BBelt.

    Is HE going to make a diff? I just hope he gets healthy.

    Going to the game tomorrow. if for only the fact I’ve never see the Chisox play ever.

    Pagan even got on base. He’s helping, but like everyone’s saying, the meat of the order is now tofu.

    • salty said, on August 11, 2014 at 10:16 am

      Watching them is like eating Tofu served cold and plain.

  10. salty said, on August 11, 2014 at 10:22 am

    But I’m blaming the youngsters and i’m not ready to assign these kids the Bowker label. I don’t think hitting AAA pitching does much good either. Let them learn up here. Rather see Duffy now than Crawford, who hit .200 his first year.

    • salty said, on August 11, 2014 at 10:23 am

      *not blaming*

  11. unca_chuck said, on August 11, 2014 at 10:36 am

    Yeah, Pence, Pablo, Posey, Morse. These are the guys that need to get it done. The bottom of the order is waffling at best, but when the heart of the order is flatlining, the rest of the team dies as well.

    Oh Lord. We’re going up against Chris Sale? 10-2, 2.14 ERA . . . Oh, shit. Oh, Vogie . . .

    I’ve personally witnessed 2 shutouts this year. I’d hate to see one more . . .

  12. snarkk said, on August 11, 2014 at 10:59 am

    I’ve been out of the loop for a long time. Maybe that’s a good thing. The current lineup BV describes looks like Swiss Cheese, yet amazing this team is still in position for a playoff chance…

  13. James said, on August 11, 2014 at 11:23 am

    Last year, after a similar stretch of horror, the team finished 24-18. That turnaround was fueled by (at last) decent pitching and some great play from Pagan, Pablo, Belt, and Pence. We’ve had pretty good pitching all year except for June, when not coincidentally the team had its worst monthly record. Swap out Posey for Belt from last year’s list, and in theory, this team is still capable of getting it done.

    Posey is the one who really needs to step it up . . . .

    If these guys somehow make the playoffs, the plastic covers and invitations will be out.

    • James said, on August 11, 2014 at 11:30 am

      I should have prefaced by saying “to echo Chuck” . . . .

  14. blade3colorado said, on August 11, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    One hundred sixty two games. Sorry, but I am going to stay Pollyanna, zipp-a-dee-doo-dah, or whatever you want to call being positive is. In short, put me down for what Willie, Chi and Bozo are having (Twin too during the few times he stops in). Anything can happen in a long season. More important, if we get into the playoffs, stranger (and better) things can happen, e.g., see 2010 and 2012. Sheesh, you guys act like we are in last place, 10 or more games back.

    I love every last one of you Flappers, but you guys have become very depressing in my opinion. Even the trolls sense it and that’s probably why they’ve shown up the last month of so. I’m even getting caught up in this negativity. How do I know? I’ve just reviewed my last dozen comments or so here and most of them are negative.

    I have two words . . . Go Giants! 🙂

    • Chipower9 said, on August 11, 2014 at 2:33 pm

      I am with you 100 fucking percent, Blade. I still think this team has a good run or two in them, and my ass is going Polly, too!

  15. unca_chuck said, on August 11, 2014 at 12:24 pm

    That’s zipp-a-dee-doo-dah . . . I guess we have a shot at the playoffs.

    Well, it helped to not watch most of the KC series.

    As long as there are shitty teams left on the schedule, I suppose anything is possible. Of our next 7 series’s’s’s’s, (chisox, phils, cubbies, waahs, sherps, brews, and then sherps again) only Wash and Millll have winning records.

    Go Giants! Go mediocrity!

    • blade3colorado said, on August 11, 2014 at 12:29 pm

      ty

      • unca_chuck said, on August 11, 2014 at 12:55 pm

        In re being negative about the team, it’s very hard to be excited when you see all these shutouts and all these desultory 6-1 losses. When the team isn’t scoring runs, it looks as though they don’t give a shit. I know it’s not the case, but when you see the team

        Like I read somewhere, at what point do you get sick and tired of all the cap-tipping going on regarding the opposing pitching?

  16. Nipper said, on August 11, 2014 at 12:30 pm

    Forget the playoffs. Playoffs?? Just string together some well played games. Try and win more at home. The other teams have their problems too.

    • chipower9 said, on August 11, 2014 at 2:35 pm

      Positivity out of Nipper? Wow. Hey Nipper – Fuck the DH and the Junior Circuit.

  17. Irish Kevin said, on August 11, 2014 at 12:31 pm

    I agree with Chuck, the meat of the order is doing very little. So to blame having a week second baseman is not right. When mentioned above that Scuto got a 3 year deal, I had forgotten all about that. That makes me cry more than the Bowker Gang II. what a waste of time and money on him. But like mom said no use complaining about spilt milk. I think this team can win. it just that the heart of the order needs to start hitting. I also agree move Panik to bat 2nd. Let Pence be the RBI guy he should be. If everyone was healthy

    Pagan
    Panik
    Pence
    Posey
    Sandoval
    Belt
    Morse
    Crawford

    • zumiee said, on August 11, 2014 at 1:03 pm

      At least with Scutaro now, they go into next season under no illusions.

  18. blade3colorado said, on August 11, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    By the by, HanRam went on the DL today, so shit isn’t exactly perfect in la la land.

    • zumiee said, on August 11, 2014 at 12:54 pm

      Yeah, they have to start their .300-hitting back-up infielder, Turner. 😦

      • zumiee said, on August 11, 2014 at 12:59 pm

        The frowny yellow face icon actually makes me laugh. That’s just one sad-looking icon.

  19. salty said, on August 11, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    Used to be coming home was a positive. But their 7-21 home record since June 9 is sobering, to say the least. That and Timmy is back rooming with Zito. Where’s El Gropo?

    As James mentioned though, they did finish OK. So looked it up. Last yr between June 9th through Aug 10th, they also sucked at home …9-19. What does it all mean? Absolutely no idea.

    • James said, on August 11, 2014 at 1:02 pm

      Nice stat hunting on the home record last year 🙂

  20. zumiee said, on August 11, 2014 at 12:52 pm

    ” it helped to not watch most of the KC series.”

    That raises an interesting question, to me, anyway. How is a Giants fan’s positivity or negativity effected by how much of the Giants games they are currently watching? Or is there any relation between those factors at all. Is watching less sometimes more? 🙂
    I guess I’m on the somewhat negative side lately. I was hoping for more from Sabean and team ownership during this skid. Maybe there will be some more action from them.

    • unca_chuck said, on August 11, 2014 at 1:07 pm

      It was for me this weekend. If I don’t watch them go 3-31 in a game, I’m fine with missing it and not going through the gyrations of watching them flail.

      I mean, if they actually TRIED to do things a little differently it might make me feel good, even if it’s a fart in the wind.

      Was it Parra that bunted home a run the other day? Blanco talks about changing his approach, all these guys say the right things, but they do the same shit over and over that just pisses me off. From Pence swinging at a 2-0 slider 3′ off the plate to Crawfish watching the good ones and swinging at shit, these guys seemingly have no idea how to work a count or what to do if they DO get count leverage.

      Can they all collectively get their stroke back? I don’t know, but with the bottom of the order doing very little as well, they can’t score.

  21. zumiee said, on August 11, 2014 at 12:57 pm

    “Watching them is like eating Tofu served cold and plain.”

    Yeah, it just seems like if even ONE player could get real hot, like Pence was a few weeks ago, it could carry the Giants back quite a bit. Just ONE player….

  22. paulinasia said, on August 11, 2014 at 1:57 pm

    I understand both the negativity and the weariness from the negativity. I’m not feeling negative, exactly; in fact, I said here yesterday that I actually calmly watched yesterday’s game and felt rather optimistic that they would come back. They certainly had their chances, but fell short in their comeback efforts. For me, it’s not really negativity I’m feeling, but a kind of numbness now. Yeah, they’re still “in it”, and we should value that. But where they are now isn’t the problem; it’s where they’re headed. If they’d been 20 games under .500 in early June, we’d all be ecstatic, as the team would be headed in the right direction. The numbness for me comes from more than 2 months now of a downward trend that has cost them nearly 15 games in the division standings, with no real sign of any reversal of the downward trend. There appeared to be a slight uptick a few weeks back, but then LA came in for the sweep and it’s been trending down again ever since. I’m not giving up on the season, by any means. Just numbed out a bit watching the free fall for so long while hoping that something or someone pulls them up and gets them going in the right direction again. Yeah, one player, one spark…. well… maybe two… could make all the difference. Still time, but not for long. Start this week, boys….

  23. wswins said, on August 11, 2014 at 2:11 pm

    Last year in Sept. they played well when people recovered from their injuries. This year, they are 20-35 in the last 55 games where it seems like everybody on this team has gone into, or hasn’t come out of a prolonged slump. That goes for the coaching staff as well. And by the way,I agree with a post I saw on Pav’s blog. Gregor Blanco has to have the lowest baseball IQ I’ve ever seen. He should never be on a field.

  24. Flabloxxxl said, on August 11, 2014 at 2:50 pm

  25. Alleykat said, on August 11, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    Alright fuck winning one for the Groper,Let’s win one for the “Ingrown Toenail!”

  26. blade3colorado said, on August 11, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    Thanks Maalox or WTF you call yourself . . . Nightengale had it right once (usat.ly/1hscGLO) and who knows, he could be right again. This is what this asshole wrote in part on June 8th:

    “The Dodgers are a dead team walking. Oh, sure, they still very well could find themselves claiming one of the two wild-card spots. But win the National League West?

    No chance.

    It’s over.

    The San Francisco Giants don’t have the talent the Dodgers have, but they have the kind of team the Dodgers crave. The Giants are the definition of a true team. The Dodgers are the true definition of a sabermetric nightmare.The Dodgers may look good on paper, and there are high-paid stars everywhere you look, but when they step on the field together, they are a TV reality show: “Dysfunction Junction.”

    They may out-talent everybody in the league, but they will never outhustle anybody. How can the Dodgers (32-30) see that they actually have a worse record than the Miami Marlins and not be totally disgusted?”

    • blade3colorado said, on August 11, 2014 at 3:13 pm

      By the by, I’ll say it one more time – if you think it’s over, read the ENTIRE Nightengale column and then you’ll understand why you’re a Giants fan and why we should still have hope.

      • Irish Kevin said, on August 11, 2014 at 4:34 pm

        The fat lady is sitting and humming…..just messing with you blade. I don’t remember who said it but not until the last out is made is the game over. GO GIANTS

  27. Alleykat said, on August 11, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    Wow,Robin Williams found dead in Tiburon.RIP for one of the greats!

    • WilcoJoe said, on August 11, 2014 at 4:24 pm

      Wow, one of my all time favorites. Very sad.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 11, 2014 at 4:38 pm

      Holy shit! Didn’t know this AK. Wow!

      • DJLoo said, on August 11, 2014 at 4:56 pm

        I though thought he was a much better actor than a stand-up comedian. Very shocking.

      • Flavor said, on August 11, 2014 at 5:01 pm

        I totally agree Loo. I know some people loved his improv but I wasn’t one of them. Many of his movies are some of my all time favs though

      • blade3colorado said, on August 11, 2014 at 5:03 pm

        Agree Loo, although I was always amazed at how fast his brain would come up with funny stuff. Almost like a jazz musician riffing. Going to miss him and am still processing this.

    • Bozo said, on August 11, 2014 at 5:03 pm

      Fuck, fuck, fuck. I was on an N Judah one morning and Robin was walking one of his kids to school(?). Seeing his expressions and hand movements, the whole street car started to crackup, nobody could hear what he was saying (well the kid could), yet this crowded morning commute train started to laugh out loud. RIP. Ah, fuck.

  28. Flavor said, on August 11, 2014 at 4:46 pm

    Atlanta got rid of the strike out happy Uggla but they still can’t seem to stop striking out. Heyward just swang clean through a simple straight fastball from Correia and then Gattis watched a dead straight down the middle fastball for strike 3. Correia sucks, if they can’t even hit his pitches, they suck too. Game is on ESPN if you feel like watching some baseball today……
    this Robin Williams thing hit me hard.

  29. paulinasia said, on August 11, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    Uh, yeah. Shocked. …….

  30. Flavor said, on August 11, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    Henry Schulman ‏@hankschulman 19m
    As others mentioned, Robin Williams was a #sfgiants fan. Once came to Scottsdale incognito with family to watch workout.

  31. Flavor said, on August 11, 2014 at 5:23 pm
    • DJLoo said, on August 11, 2014 at 6:09 pm

      What does he mean by “incognito”? Was he expecting him to show up dressed as Mork?

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 11, 2014 at 6:45 pm

      Nice link, Flavor. Always liked his acting too. Totally underrated.

  32. gianthead said, on August 11, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    Hats off to a die-hard Giants fan Robin Williams…Rest In Peace Fellow Flapper…

  33. unca_chuck said, on August 11, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Yeah, that really sucks re Williams. Saw him do his comedy a bunch of times in the 80s. Just a crazy weird mind behind all that stuff.

    Dude did win an Oscar so he ain’t that underrated.

    He was really good in the Fisher King. . .

    • gianthead said, on August 11, 2014 at 8:10 pm

      Fisher King one of my all-time favorites…big Terry Gilliam fan…

  34. blade3colorado said, on August 11, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    He made 4 movies before he passed away that will come out in the coming months, including this one (preview):

  35. Macdog said, on August 11, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    Total bummer about Robin Williams, It was cool knowing he was a Giants fan. He’s someone who reached generations, one of the very few entertainers from my era who my daughter likes from movies such as Aladdin and the Night at the Museum series. We even watched his last sitcom, The Crazy Ones, which came on after Big Bang Theory. Interesting comment by DJ about Williams being a better actor; there’s a movie of his, One Hour Photo, in which his portrayal of psycho stalking a family leaves a creepy impression. A comedic genius who could also play heavies. Such a sad loss.

  36. pawliekokonuts said, on August 11, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    I received a text from my daughter telling me about Robin Williams while I was with a roomful of like-minded friends at a church hall. Really rocked me. To fess up, it was inappropriate for me to be checking my phone. And yet, it gave me pause. Such a loss. Makes me take stock. And underscores gratitude for what has been given to me in my own life. Today. Whew.

  37. James said, on August 11, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    I haven’t seen most of his movies, and resisted his stuff for the most part.

    But this is the best tribute I’ve seen posted so far:

    • pawliekokonuts said, on August 11, 2014 at 8:43 pm

      thanks, James; posted that on Twitter

  38. pawliekokonuts said, on August 11, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    My biggest fear regarding the Giants is that we become the Phillies: bloated, long contracts; declining attendance; living in yesterday with yesterday’s stars. Phil. won the Series not all that long ago. They sold out their ballpark for years, hundreds of consecutive games. No more. And the future looks bleak for them with no easy way out.

    Please. No. Please.

    • DJLoo said, on August 11, 2014 at 8:44 pm

      Relax Pawlie, we won’t be in that situation for at least 2-3 weeks…

      • James said, on August 11, 2014 at 9:05 pm

        My impression is that this one of your funniest/cleverest posts, but sadly I don’t have the ready data to confirm it.

      • Nipper said, on August 11, 2014 at 9:12 pm

        I concur.

      • Nipper said, on August 11, 2014 at 9:13 pm

        I mean RELAX.

    • stickman said, on August 11, 2014 at 9:53 pm

      Pawlie: Same feeling has been haunting me a bit lately too. Best course if this one goes down the swirly is for the team to be broken up a bit ~ maybe even an icon like Timmy. Probably Crawford. Romo down the road by himself. Morse gone. Crawford might fetch a fair return for the outfield. Duvall could be an intriguing AL chip. Thinking there’s enough potential in the kids: Panik, Duffy and Susac to give them lonnng consideration as starters next season ~ or in Susac’s case starting a third of the time unless Pablo walks and Buster blesses third. Thus:
      (1. Pagan or a cf pickup.
      (2. Panik
      (3. Belt
      (4. Buster
      (5. Pence
      (6. Outfield pickup
      (7. Duffy
      (8. Susac

      After the shellacking Royals baserunners gave a sweatstained #55 the first focus needs to be on whether or not Pagan is sufficiently hale to remain as leadoff man. If not, there goes Crawford and Duvall for a speedy outfielder with good cf chops and some doubles, triples slash. Good OBP a must. Pagan would be a super 4th O.F.er.

      Owners need to cough up FA money for a LFer who hits a ton of doubles and a dozen to fifteen dingers. Price for such a player should not be overly steep. If no FA fits the description plan B would be to dip into the pitching pipeline in a a trade. Guy could be 34-36 if his legs are not his game. Good for even a year would maybe be sufficient as Mac Williamson, injured this year, still projects well for this slot.

      So the Giants need to add a running game plus a productive RBI man in slots one and 6. Projected infield looks capable. Maybe one replacement starter from the pipeline. Outfield would be a blend of speed, steadiness and pizzaz. Quality bullpen should self-regenerate from loaded pipeline.

      • blade3colorado said, on August 12, 2014 at 7:27 am

        Just my opinion, but I allow Panda to walk and switch Posey to 3rd base. If Belt is worse then we suspect, that’s another position Posey can fill. Let’s admit it – Posey has sucked this season. All of his numbers are down, especially his under .800 OPS. Mercury columnist Kawakami compares his catcher and 1st base numbers – It’s like night and day insofar as how bad Posey has face planted when he has catching duties. As Kawakami points out, Craig Biggio was moved from the catcher position when he was 26. Buster is 27. Tick tock, tick tock . . .

        Regarding Panda, I don’t trust him to be the “man” with a 4-5 year $100 million plus contract. I see those numbers and I find it hilarious that anyone would give him this much scratch. Let some other idiot franchise do a “Figgins” contract. Below is a list of third baseman to sign free agent contracts longer than three years since the year 2000.

        Alex Rodriguez
        Adrian Beltre
        Aramis Ramirez
        Chone Figgins

        How’s that working out for the teams that signed these players? Other then Texas, I would say pretty shitty.

  39. Macdog said, on August 11, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    Williams getting the crowd fired up for the playoffs in 2010. I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen this: http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/8878828/v12772607

  40. Nipper said, on August 11, 2014 at 11:30 pm

    Remember May? Damn that was nice. Then came June and July and nothing but shit. Now a new home stand begins and it’s practically mid-August. Time flies.

  41. unca_chuck said, on August 12, 2014 at 8:16 am

    Posey at 3rd? I don’t buy it.

    When was the last time he played 3rd? Sophomore year in college?

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 12, 2014 at 8:55 am

      I would think Posey to 1b and Belt to LF makes more sense. Then Susac/Sanchez behind the plate and find a 3b if they let Sandoval walk.

  42. unca_chuck said, on August 12, 2014 at 11:21 am

    I’d keep Panda and find a LFer.


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