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Winning

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 2, 2014

I received a bunch of texts last night asking if I was “happy”. That isn’t really the right word. It was as if my friends assumed that a game like last night could kick start a new emotion within me.

Listen up, as far as baseball goes I have been a supernova of happiness since 2010. If I was a desperate Royals fan, an A’s fan or a freaking Dodger fan, a game like last night would probably send me into a long swoon of happiness.

But it didn’t. As a Giants fan, I’m always happy. And whatever happens in this post season is either gonna role off me like water from a stream or just add energy to the supernova.

I am a knowing dude head nod in perpetuity…..

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  1. Nipper said, on October 2, 2014 at 7:12 am

    Now the real struggle begins. Beat the Nats!

  2. willedav said, on October 2, 2014 at 7:30 am

    Nats are tough but…it’s one thing to go from middle of pack to top of division.
    It’s quite another to win a league championship or WS.
    Giants (and Cards to be fair) have done both. Nats are still wannabes right now.

    ATT game would be Bum vs. Fister rematch…

    • Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 8:01 am

      Nats are tough. And you have to respect their “regular season” accomplishments. But as you said, they haven’t done jack shit in the playoffs. Bring on Goliath!

  3. Alleykat said, on October 2, 2014 at 7:50 am

    “Winning”
    That’s what this team is all about in postseason!
    7 straight elimination game wins tells it all, they have been battle tested like no other team, I couldn’t be prouder and my knowing nod of the cap will last a lifetime!
    Such a great moment on Crawford’s GrandSlam as the Pirate fans were going nuts for a strikeout,instead only to dead silence and disbelief knowing their season is over.

    • Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 8:00 am

      That was so fucking cool, Kat. That place was a MAD HOUSE and then Moutain View’s finest, with one swing of the bat, created dead silence (with the exception being the Giants fans in the ballpark). Silence never “sounded better.”

  4. Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 7:51 am

    Knowing dude head nod back at ya, Flavor. I feel the same way. What a dominating game by Bum. And Craw with the grand salami. I was estatic…still am. But am ready to see the boys strap it on and go toe-to-toe with everyone else’s darlings and pick, the natty nats. I saw a stat where they had an 800 OPS against the Giants this year, but that we hit at a .300 clip against them (best of all teams). I am optimistic with our team.

    Let’s Roll! Let’s Get It On!

    Orange and Black and Don’t Look Back!

    GO GIANTS!

    And a merry FUCK YEAH to boot!

  5. Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 8:09 am

    This is the first paragraph from Bagg’s article today…I love it!

    “History never happens in the on-deck circle. There are no acts of heroism within its confines, no daring or athletic feats.

    When those feats happen, though, it is one hell of a place to stand and watch.

    “Do you hear silence?” said Travis Ishikawa, describing the moment of transubstantiation when Edinson Volquez’s flat curve met Brandon Crawford’s bat for a grand slam Wednesday night.

    “I don’t know if you really do. I don’t know if silence is a sound. But I heard it. Walking to the plate, after that home run, that’s all I heard.”

  6. gianthead said, on October 2, 2014 at 8:18 am

    I am with you Flav but always interesting to see how a kid processes it. .My 15 year old is a total Giant die – hard and now has had this incredible run to remember for life. So he was on top of the world last night. Of course he has all his friends on the Nats bandwagon motivating Jackson that much more in this new playoff run.

    But hats off to Bochy. His steady demeanor and guidance had a lot to do with last night. Of course we also had the Undertaker. But I think Dusty would have found a way to lose the game last night. Could he end up with the Diamondbacks?

    • Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 8:20 am

      That is a cool story about your son, GHead. Love it. Big time Giant fan in enemy territory. Gotta love it.

    • snarkk said, on October 2, 2014 at 8:48 am

      Dusty would have found Salomon Torres and started him last night…

  7. Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 8:19 am

    Back to a comment Craig made in reference to Loo’s consternation with Bum’s contract. I have never been that butt hurt about the contract. Hey, Bum and his agent both negotiated it, and signed it. But my tune has changed. Rewrite that man’s contract. Back up the fucking Brinks truck and give him whatever he wants, including the keys to The City. I’ve got some MadBum love goin’ on this A.M.

  8. Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 8:28 am

    Putting Bagg’s story out there for those who have not seen it. I thought it an excellent read. Makes one SO DAMNED PROUD to be a Giant fan.

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/giants/rewind-quiet-riot-crawford-bumgarner-fuel-giants

    • Raymond said, on October 3, 2014 at 6:32 am

      a really great read by baggs…game on!!

  9. Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 8:42 am

    And Craig, I am not getting all gushy here, but seriously, from the bottom of my heart…THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for this blog. I love this place and am so appreciative of the connection I have made with a group of the best damned Giants fans ever, via this blog.

    This place is the SHIZNIT!

    Much appreciation, dude.

  10. Irish Kevin said, on October 2, 2014 at 8:56 am

    Yes, what a great win. Now all we are hearing is how good the Nats Pitching staff is!! 2010 all over again. I believe the Phillies had the “Greatest” pitching staff the Giants were ever going to face!! I still think the Giants just become magical in the post season, nothing seems to phase them. Grab hold of your chairs boys the ride of a life time is happening again. This is an “E” ticket ride at Disneyland.

    • Flavor said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:08 am

      still my favorite video by Ashkon (although I love all of his videos). “All they kept talking about was this damn pitcher….”

  11. unca_chuck said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:05 am

    Awesome game. Couple things I learned this morning. One was 7 of the 9 Giants starters in yesterday’s game were home grown players. Crazy. Sabean used to catch a ton of heat for that, but nowadays he’s got a team that is literally stacked with homegrown talent.

    Another thing I heard is, on one of the last road trips, the Giants bus broke down, and the bus driver pulled off the road. Madison got some tools out and fixed the bus. He fixed the fucking bus! How great is that? Just picture Sandy Koufax wrenching on the team bus. Doesn’t compute. Bummie? No prob. I’m sure he changes out tractor engines without an engine lift.

    Also found out his nickname is ‘Country Breakfast’ No idea what that means, but I love it.

    • twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:12 am

      I think it means ” 8 eggs scrambled, 1 pound bacon, rib eye steak, 3 orders hash browns, loaf of white toast, coffee black, leave the pot”..

      • snarkk said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:16 am

        Don’t forget the grits, biscuits and red-eye gravy…

      • Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:42 am

        Priceless. Have never heard the Country Breakfast nickname. I have heard Big Country before, though.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:36 am

      That’s awesome. Now I’m hungry.

  12. twinfan1 said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:07 am

    We’ve heard it so much when the Giants fall behind, it was time for it last night after the slam- GAME OVER!!!
    The Bucs had no chance- and if you looked at their dugout after Crawford’s HR, you could tell that they knew it was over. Every time thereafter when they showed McCutchen he looked like he couldn’t wait for it to be done with.

    • Flavor said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:18 am

      yup. I thought the exact same thing.

    • Alleykat said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:32 am

      So true Mike.
      Right after Mudbug’s Grand Slam they interviewed Hurdle the next inning and he knew as well, ballgame with Undertaker dealing!
      Speaking of McCutchen, anybody see him walking down the RF line alone after the game,with his backpack on and headphones on as the camera’s watch him disappear past the RF foul pole as his season comes to an end in shame?Kinda felt sorry for him, but that’s baseball, and the better team dominated in their house!!!!

  13. snarkk said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:20 am

    I’m dusting off the “Giants — Why the fuck NOT” again.
    It worked yesterday, and I’m usin’ it this post-season unless/until it doesn’t work anymore.
    I seriously think Panik is the key to a lot of this. If he gets 2 hits a game or better, he just moves the line, and loosens the batters up behind him. I can’t remember an important reg season game where the Giants hitters took better ABs than last night. Even Panda had a good eye and seemed pretty patient at the plate – WTF?…

    • stickman said, on October 2, 2014 at 10:27 am

      Panik batting second, Belt third and Buster in cleanup gives you three guys with a kinship of ken at the plate. Selective hitters, all three. That threesome can wear an opposing pitcher to a frizzled frazzle. Like you point out Snarkk, that professional take gets taken up by the rest of the guys down the line ~ even the hackers don’t so often swing at the first vaguely tempting offering. It makes for long, drawn out innings where your starter enjoys the action from a buttside situation and the poor schlub on the mound sweats like a stevedore.

  14. snarkk said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:22 am

    Anybody else notice Volquez last night — on the mound he wore his cap off kilter, looked weird. Kinda sideways. Plus, his top shirt button was undone, and shirt tail was hanging out. The guy looked beaten before he gave up anything…

  15. wswins said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:23 am

    The post is exactly what happened to me…a few friends called or texted me and their first words were ” are you happy”…I said “ya, since the 4th inning”….

  16. zumiee said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:31 am

    MLB Network had a chart after the game showing Bum as having the #1 all-time on-the-road ERA in playoff history, for pitchers with 20+ innings or something like that. All-time! Ahead of people like Gibson, Koufax, and, well….everybody!

  17. zumiee said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:35 am

    “nowadays he’s got a team that is literally stacked with homegrown talent.”

    I’m not sure how “stacked” we are with Ishi and Blanco in the starting outfield, but I also know that when the Giants in the Bochy era get hot in the playoffs, anything can happen, as recent history has proved so well.

    • unca_chuck said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:54 am

      Blanco and Pence were the only non-homegrown starters. Tiburon came up through the Braves org. Or maybe KC? I thought we got him from Seattle.

  18. Macdog said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:40 am

    I wonder if Hurdle is getting any heat for not saving Cole for the WC game. He used Cole on Sunday in a last-ditch attempt to catch the Cards, but it was kind of pointless. Why? Because whether the Pirates won or lost Sunday (and a Cards loss was still needed to tie), they would’ve had to play an extra game no matter what in order to advance to the next round: either a division-title game vs. the Cards or the WC game vs. the Giants. And if they had lost the division-title game, that would’ve made for two extra games.

    Then again, the way MadBum was dealing last night, it wouldn’t have mattered if Steve Blass circa ’71-72 was pitching for the Bucs.

    • Flavor said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:54 am

      also, at least for the last couple of months, Cole hasn’t been better than Volquez. They’ve both been good, almost interchangeable.

      • Macdog said, on October 2, 2014 at 10:40 am

        Cole on Sunday: 7 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 12 K, 0 BB. I’m just glad the Giants didn’t have to face that.

  19. zumiee said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:41 am

    Awesome Emmylou concert last night; she had her band from her tour with Rodney Crowell, with Jed Hughs tearing it up on lead guitar, and for dinner before the show we ended up at a cool pub-like place, that had TVs galore tuned into the game. We got to see Craw’s slam and share in the mayhem of a room full of Giants fans going crazy. It was a very cool experience.

    • Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 9:47 am

      Awesome, Zume. Jed Hughs. That’s the guy. I think he played a red Telecaster ALL night last time I saw her with Rodney. Never once swapped out his guitar as so many do in this day and age. Glad you saw such a good show. Emmylou never disappoints. Love her.

    • Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 10:20 am

      Another great read. I especially liked this line from the article:

      “Beyond the things that can be measured, the Giants have an inner confidence, not an arrogance, but a confidence.”

      Thanks for the link, Wins.

  20. zumiee said, on October 2, 2014 at 10:14 am

    Also wanted to mention- great post, BF. One of your best ever, IMO. It describes the feeling perfectly.

  21. Alleykat said, on October 2, 2014 at 10:20 am

    Dug the T-Shirts last night in the clubhouse party:”Always October”
    Undertaker was rockin 4 beers at once over his head “Drinkin&Spillin Redneck style,Classic!

    • Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 10:28 am

      Yeah, I have been torn between the official club house shirt and the Always October. Fuck it…I am buying both! Cha Ching…could spend my money on much worse shit.

      • Alleykat said, on October 2, 2014 at 11:29 am

        Yeah damm right Chi, like “We are Losers” T-shirts there wearing in Pittsburgh today!

  22. Fettmucke said, on October 2, 2014 at 10:30 am

    According to Hudson, the Appalachian hillbilly “goes out there and sticks it right up your butt.”

    • unca_chuck said, on October 2, 2014 at 10:37 am

      Right up yer . . alley, eh?

      • Fettmucke said, on October 2, 2014 at 11:11 am

        Hudson, clearly, was speaking to the hillbilly’s wife’s wedding present.

    • Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 10:45 am

      I believe that was a quote from Hudson. Great quote.

      • Fettmucke said, on October 2, 2014 at 11:35 am

        Clearly, Hudson’s the most articulate member of the team.

      • Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 11:46 am

        Yes. I thought he was pretty clear and definitive on his comment/observation.

      • Fettmucke said, on October 2, 2014 at 12:33 pm

        That says something about the level of intellect on the roster.

  23. Alleykat said, on October 2, 2014 at 11:24 am

    Test

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 2, 2014 at 12:03 pm

      passed

  24. DJLoo said, on October 2, 2014 at 11:32 am

    Hudson looks like a 5 inning pitcher at this stage and Lincecum has been pretty sharp lately reprising his super-reliever role of 2012. I am looking for a Tim Hudcecum combo to hopefully get it done in Game 3 and thereafter…

    • Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 11:48 am

      Hudson goes in game 2, right? Bum will go in game three at home, I believe.

      But I agree. If we get Hudson for 5 quality, let Tim come in and see wha type of magic he can work.

      I will be quite happy with a split in DC.

      • Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 12:09 pm

        Yeah, I love Timmy and all, but in a tight game where it all hung in the balance, not sure he would be the first guy I handed the ball to in relief.

      • DJLoo said, on October 2, 2014 at 12:47 pm

        You’re right Chi. Last night felt like a Game 1 to me, not a Game 7.

    • willedav said, on October 2, 2014 at 12:00 pm

      I said before if the Pads were in it, I’d love to see Lincecum.
      Otherwise, no. I’m fine with Romo Casilla Strick, and Affeldt (who could go 2 innings) earlier if needed.

  25. Flavor said, on October 2, 2014 at 11:40 am

    Tim Hudson on facing the Nats: “Talent can take you a long ways, but what do you have between your legs?”

  26. Macdog said, on October 2, 2014 at 11:53 am

    Anyone know why it’s Hudson over Vogey for Game 2? Seems to me they’ve been equally crappy for the last month or so.

    • Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 12:08 pm

      Hudson has great numbers against the Nats. Not sure, but I think they (the Nats) have lit Vogey up big time.

    • wswins said, on October 2, 2014 at 12:25 pm

      They probably would feel more comfy with Voggy at ATT

    • zumiee said, on October 2, 2014 at 12:52 pm

      Great footage; thanks!
      It’s always interesting to see how much is the same and how much is different in the game, compared to the earlier eras. A lot is the same, which is very cool.
      The Giants did get revenge on Washington in the ’33 World Series. 🙂

  27. unca_chuck said, on October 2, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    That is awesome. Shit, the pitcher’s mound is what, 3″ high? And I thought sliding into 1st base was a new invention . . .

  28. Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    That is some cool footage, Flav. Thanks for sharing. I believe this was DC’s last world serious, let’s keep it that way for now.

  29. unca_chuck said, on October 2, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    From Jeff Passan, Yahoo :

    PITTSBURGH – The San Francisco Giants milled about their clubhouse Wednesday afternoon, engaging in the usual time-killing activities that are part and parcel of a baseball season, when an interloper interrupted. It was Madison Bumgarner, the Giants’ ace and starting pitcher in the National League wild-card game, and he just wanted to tell the clutch of relief pitchers they shouldn’t bother getting loose, because he planned on pitching all nine innings and sending the Giants into the National League Division Series. And that was that.

    Bumgarner strolled off, like it was typical for a pitcher to stare at a game of such import with the nonchalance of a nihilist. Because for him, it pretty much is the norm, not arrogance as much as the personification of self-awareness.

    “He just wanted to let us know,” Giants reliever Jeremy Affeldt said. “He was being courteous.”

    Not only is Bumgarner fully conscious of who he is – an unapologetic son of North Carolina who once gave his wife a cow for her birthday – he is at peace with his mound alter ego, a snarling, snot rocket-launching presence who at 25 years old is just realizing how great he can be.
    ______________________________________________

    Didn’t know Bummie called this out before the game.

    • Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 12:56 pm

      Was not aware of this, either, and it just adds to the admiration I have for this kid. I would love to have a beer (or three) with the dude.

  30. DJLoo said, on October 2, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    If you’re feeling nervous, just remind yourself that they’re really the Montreal Expos.
    Coco Laboy……Boots Day, etc.

  31. salty said, on October 2, 2014 at 12:59 pm

    So when it comes to remembering your favorite Giant from this era, has Bumgarner up there? Ahead of Lincecum? If not, surely he with another 4 yrs on his contract.

    Speaking of which, I’d restructure it so he gets a lot more dough in future yrs, for instance instead of 12m option, he gets 25. But with the budget tight for next yr and a lot of needs, it sure helps he’s only making 7m.

  32. unca_chuck said, on October 2, 2014 at 1:05 pm

    Something I didn’t know:

    The Boston Red Sox selected Brandon Belt in the 11th round of the 2006 MLB Draft as a pitcher, but chose not to give him the signing bonus that would make him forego his college commitment. Belt enrolled at San Jacinto College in order to preserve his ability to negotiate with Boston. He pitched for San Jacinto’s baseball team, and transferred to the University of Texas, where he played college baseball for the Texas Longhorns for his sophomore year. As a junior, he transitioned to first base due to shoulder problems. The San Francisco Giants selected Belt in the fifth round of the 2009 Major League Baseball Draft after his junior year. He started his professional career with the High-A Giants affiliate in San Jose.

    • Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 1:21 pm

      Yeah, I remember reading about this before. This type of stuff is a trip…

  33. Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 1:19 pm

    Salt – in relation to your comment on Bum’s contract (and Flavor brought it up, last thread, I believe). I am into restructuring it, if he steps up and asks for it.

    Here is how the remainder of his current contract breaks down:

    14:$3.75M
    15:$6.75M
    16:$9.75M
    17:$11.5M
    18:$12M club option ($1.5M buyout), 19:$12M club option

    • unca_chuck said, on October 2, 2014 at 1:28 pm

      He could buy the states of NC, SC, and Tennessee outright with that kind of scratch.

      I don’t think he utters a peep about his deal. At least I’d like to see what he’d do if someone called him an idiot for signing it.

      If he’s still dealing by the end of next year, they will probably restructure. Front-load a deal.

    • DJLoo said, on October 2, 2014 at 2:15 pm

      They should do the right thing and voluntarily add at least $5M/year to this ludicrous deal, including 2014.
      They may have hustled his hick agent and he did sign it, but that doesn’t make it right…

      • unca_chuck said, on October 2, 2014 at 2:36 pm

        Well, it doesn’t make it wrong either. Look at Colin Kaepernick. He could have broke the bank but decided to go with a team-friendly deal.

        At least some of these guys are saying “how much is enough?” Is $12 mill a slap in the face, a la Latrell Sprewell? $20 mill? Tony Gwynn could have signed for double with the Yankees, or just about anyone he wanted to. He chose to stay home. When these deals break teams up, is it worth it? Is Albert Pujols happier now that he has 100 gazillion dollars as opposed to 50 gazillion?

        Shit, I don’t know. I’ll never see that kind of money, so it’s hard to say how one reacts to it. But to cry about a multi-million deal that you signed in good faith smacks me as being total bullshit. Vernon Davis springs to mind.

        Like I said, I don’t think Bummie bats an eye regarding what others are getting. He does his stuff and lets everyone else fret about all this shit.

  34. dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 2, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    This notion of tearing up his contract is ridiculous. Both sides took a calculated risk at the time of signing. Would Bumgarner give back money if his ERA, WHIP, W/L record or whatever metric you want to use fell to the middle of the pack?

    • Chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 3:47 pm

      I am not saying tear-up the contract, but I will be very surprised (if he continues to kick ass) over the next year or two, that the Giants don’t look to extend/do a new deal.

  35. DJLoo said, on October 2, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    You guys are missing the point. I’m not talking about “ifs” or comparing his situation to anyone else’s.
    The guy was either swindled or victimized by an incompetent agent and ownership should make it right.

  36. unca_chuck said, on October 2, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    Saying Bummie was swindled is ludicrous. He gets close to $60 mill if he’s going strong through the life of the deal. The option years of 2018 and 2019 are $12 mill each. If he’s still chugging, I’d think they’d have done something around the end of next year.

    Look at Tarell Brown last year for the 49ers. He skips voluntary workouts at HQ in the pre-season. Unfortunately for him, his contract has a $2 million bonus for attending those workouts. His salary goes down to $800.000. He and his agent overlooked that. Oooops. The Niners kicked him some dollars later in the year, but they weren’t obligated to. They tried to work out a deal and couldn’t. So, now he’s a Raider.

    • zumiee said, on October 2, 2014 at 3:22 pm

      Yeah, I think there’s a good chance the Giants will offer him a new contract within the next couple of seasons. Lincecum’s and Hudson’s contracts go off the books after next season. The Giants are going to have extra cash lying around, and they have a history of taking care of their key players.

  37. wswins said, on October 2, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    at the end of that contract he’s a whole 30 years old…If he’s still THE Mad Bum, he’ll get at least $75 for a 3 year deal…feel sorry for him? Puhleeze…

    • zumiee said, on October 2, 2014 at 3:38 pm

      Well, $25 a year does seem a little low. 🙂

  38. salty said, on October 2, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    “they have a history of taking care of their key players.”

    Yep. Why it wouldn’t surprise me if they restructured a bit. Let’s just say it’s like giving him a bonus. Doesnt bother me one bit if they don’t. He signed for security. If he had blown out his arm, he’d be sitting pretty and G’s would be screwed.

  39. Alleykat said, on October 2, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    Was 12 mil a slap in the face for Latrell Sprewell?
    Well Chuck I guess it was since he decided to take it out on PJ Carlmesio’s throat.

    • zumiee said, on October 2, 2014 at 4:13 pm

      It was just like this!

  40. Flavor said, on October 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    I get emails like this from time to time but this one really struck me. He’s a lurker who doesn’t post so you won’t know who he is and since I didn’t ask his permission to re-post it I will just include the body of the email. But I thought it was worth sharing here. I will never put ads on this site and don’t do the blog for $$$. But I really appreciate emails like this. Makes me want to keep doing it.
    “Dear Craig,
    As the re line says, I just wanted to take a minute to write a long-overdue note of thanks for starting and keeping the blog. I’ve been reading since the original break with the Splash, and remember your first dust-ups with Twin over there. After last night’s game, it occurred to me once again how much I’ve come to rely on the Flap to keep me feeling attached to the Giants, and how much more enjoyable the last 5 years of Giants baseball has been for me because of you and the regulars (and the semi-regulars, and even the trolls that come and go).
    Giants games here on the East Coast (I live in Brooklyn) can be lonely affairs, watching games from 10pm-1am, or catching the archived games the next day. Even my other baseball fan friends don’t have much to say about the west coast teams since they never see them play. So knowing I can get a fix of smart, funny, sometimes contentious, but always insightful chatter while having breakfast or a beer in the evening makes it ok.
    I’ve learned a ton about the game from Twin, and about being a fan from you (your thread today is an example–how do you explain what “happy” means about a post-season win after two WS? You nailed it).
    So if you’ve been wondering about a URL that catches the page almost every day, or sometimes a few times a day, from Brooklyn (or Garden City, where I work) since the very first days, this is me saying hello, and thanks.”

    • DJLoo said, on October 2, 2014 at 5:33 pm

      He’s too polite to be from Brooklyn…

    • blade3colorado said, on October 3, 2014 at 2:33 am

      Great comment. I wish he would stop by and introduce himself. I always suspected that there were more people reading this blog then the dozen or so regulars that visit here and comment.

  41. dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 2, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    Pretty cool of that person to write you Flavor. I wish more of these lurkers would get in the mix.

    • Flavor said, on October 2, 2014 at 5:06 pm

      The Flap has been a great help to me keeping my life balanced. I appreciate everyone here and everyone who takes the time to read what we write

  42. sarge said, on October 2, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    Sometimes we just don’t have much to say. I personally feel a lot of times like I can’t add much so I just don’t.

    • DJLoo said, on October 2, 2014 at 5:18 pm

      That never stops most of us, sarge…

    • blade3colorado said, on October 3, 2014 at 2:29 am

      Well, what you do say is cool. Don’t be a stranger Sarge . . . Be counted. Anywho, I always like what you post.

  43. zumiee said, on October 2, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    Not a smart move by Hudson giving a quote to the media that sounds like he’s challenging the Nats’ manhood. You’d think Hudson would know better than to do that. But then again, he’s never won jack in his career, so he doesn’t really know how it all works, I guess. I guarantee you, Bochy will grind his teeth a bit when he sees that quote, if he hasn’t already.

    • snarkk said, on October 2, 2014 at 6:16 pm

      Yeah, I didn’t get that move. Hudson is usually not a guy that flaps his gums much. Though, I’m not a believer very much in saying something that somehow gets the other team “motivated”. If either one of these teams isn’t motivated enough to play hard in an NLDS series without hearing about some gonads insult, then something is wrong…

      • salty said, on October 2, 2014 at 6:21 pm

        Agree. How much more psyched can you get?

      • zumiee said, on October 2, 2014 at 6:26 pm

        That kind of stuff always bugs me in retrospect, if the team loses. Like Baker handing the ball to Ortiz as he’s walking off the mound. You’re left to wonder if it had an impact…..
        Although, I guess, most of the Angels said they never even noticed it.

  44. zumiee said, on October 2, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    I’m a little down on Hudson anyway, because he may have put in good words with Bochy and maybe Sabean about picking up Uggla, in the lead-up to the “Uggla experiment.” What we know for sure is that Hudson went to the media and promoted the idea of picking up Uggla.
    How’d that move work out, Hudson?

    Plus, Hudson has sucked in his pitching for about a month or so.

  45. snarkk said, on October 2, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    As to why Hudson over Voggy in DC game #2, Huddy is a sinker guy, a ground ball inducer. Much better there in the semi-launch pad that is the DC park. Voggy is a fly ball guy, so better that he throw (if he does) at the monstrously large confines of ATT and it’s death valley right center…

    • zumiee said, on October 2, 2014 at 6:17 pm

      The challenge for the Nats fans will be to come up with signs that reference Hudson’s quote, but are still appropriate enough to get on TV. Their creativity will be greatly challenged.

  46. zumiee said, on October 2, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    And the “manhood” quote bugs me anyway because it makes him sound like a neanderthal. And how does the quote make John Kruk feel, who lost a testicle to cancer?

  47. snarkk said, on October 2, 2014 at 6:25 pm

    Here’s the full Cots Contracts on Bumgarner. If he gets a top 3 Cy Young vote in any year of his guaranteed deal, his option year amounts go up a few million. Obviously, he would have been better off had he not negotiated away his early FA years. But, you give that up for the security of guaranteed dough over 5 years, in case in late 2014 suddenly your arm turns into a Noah Lowry situation, and you’re sitting only on an arbitration hearing…

    Madison Bumgarner lhp
    5 years/$35M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 options

    5 years/$35M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 club options
    signed extension with San Francisco 4/17/12
    $1M signing bonus
    13:$0.75M, 14:$3.75M, 15:$6.75M, 16:$9.75M, 17:$11.5M, 18:$12M club option ($1.5M buyout), 19:$12M club option
    2018 option guaranteed with 200 IP in 2017 or 400 IP in 2016-17
    options increase to $14M with top 3 finish in Cy Young vote 2012-17 or to $16M with Cy Young award 2012-17
    award bonuses, including $25,000 for All-Star selection
    limited no-trade protection (may block deals to eight clubs)
    1 year/$0.56M (2012)
    re-signed by San Francisco 3/9/12
    1 year/$0.45M (2011)
    renewed by San Francisco 3/11
    1 year (2010)
    re-signed by San Francisco 3/10
    1 year (2009)
    contract purchased by San Francisco 9/8/09
    drafted by San Francisco 2007 (1-10) (South Caldwell HS, Hudson, NC)
    signed 8/15/07, $2M signing bonus
    agent: Mike Milchen
    ML service: 3.127

  48. paulinasia said, on October 2, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    Happy? You know what made me smile more than just about anything else? Seeing video that showed Bochy walking off the field after all the congrats, walking alone, head down a little… and he was smiling. Sort of peacefully, and even slightly joyfully and proudly, smiling. You don’t see that too often. All of the import of winning that game was expressed in that big-headed little smile.

  49. paulinasia said, on October 2, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    ‘Nats are tough. I hate the Nats, and their announcers, and their fans. Oh, did I say that already? Yes I did. Done saying it; beating their asses would be very very sweet. You gotta like where the G’s heads seem to be at right now. None of the “swagger” the media as talked about re: the Dodgers, but all of the confidence. “Pedigree”, being the word used these days. And happy the knowing-dude head nods are back.

  50. pawliekokonuts said, on October 2, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    I love what you posted to start this thread. Yessir.

  51. chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    Wow. What a wild-assed ALDS game. These Royals are something else. This is the David vs. Goliath series of the AL, Just as the Giants natty Nats are the same of the NL.

    GO DOGS (under).

    Let’s Roll – GO GIANTS!

  52. chipower9 said, on October 2, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    Just catching-up on tonight’s posts. I just read the email from the anonymous lurker. What a wonderful email. That is pretty damned cool.

    I tip my cap to this Brooklynite. And this to that unknown person, if you are reading, please join the mix and post. It would be awesome to have you share your thoughts.

    • blade3colorado said, on October 3, 2014 at 2:35 am

      Yeah, I thought so too Chi. Also, was glad to see Sarge stop by . . . I wish he would post more.

  53. Raymond said, on October 3, 2014 at 6:02 am

    well said Flav…it is a whole different feeling since they took the WS in 2010. I’m looking forward to see if they can make the RUN this year, but it won’t wear me down if they don’t either. Totally get what you’re saying!

  54. LurkerMike said, on October 3, 2014 at 6:07 am

    Hello Flappers,
    It was kind of Craig to post the note I emailed him yesterday. That wasn’t my intention, but I’m happy for you all to hear that I appreciate being able to read what you all write. I’ll probably keep lurking, but…

    About Hudson’s manhood comments–I was reminded of this taped phone call from LBJ to the Haggar people, ordering new pants that could accommodate his, um, manhood. It’s all funny but gets good a little before 1/2 way through: http://millercenter.org/presidentialclassroom/exhibits/lbj-orders-some-new-haggar-pants
    (I hope this isn’t one of those things I first heard about on the Flap–if it is, then this is a re-run for you all.)

    Loo–regarding politeness, I’ve been in Brooklyn about 20 of my 46 years… give it time.

    Now, back to the shadows…


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