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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 23, 2014

I’m in a pretty + mood today. See, all Strickland was doing was merely announcing his presence with authority. He’l be back.

The Royals are going to be lost trying to play the NL game at AT&T. Yost has his work cut out for him.

And this guy? This is my guy.

pencefence3

We got too used to sweeping World Serieseseses’.

Play hard. Wait for mistakes. Win.

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  1. DJLoo said, on October 23, 2014 at 6:57 am

    Win or lose tomorrow, I would pitch Bumgarner on 3 days rest in Game 4 (and possible Game 7) regardless of what happens tomorrow. This is the World fuckin’ Series. The man is a horse and he wants the ball. The old timers here know it used to be done all the time – even on 2 days rest if necessary.

    • Flavor said, on October 23, 2014 at 7:03 am

      considering he’s our only reliable starter, I agree with you in theory. But it will never happen. We can’t lose these games in the 6th inning. The Royals live for the 6th inning. We can’t fall apart in the 6th the way we did last night or it will be curtains on this series.

  2. pawliekokonuts said, on October 23, 2014 at 7:02 am

    That one twisted inning dampened me and blahed me, but I like how Krukow put it, now it’s win three out of five, and three out of those five games are in our yard. The most frustrating thing to me was that last night’s game was so winnable: KC’s OF looked dreadful, cocky Ventura is beatable, as is Herrera. And so are we, obviously. The Belt gaffe outembarrassed the sloppy play of KC. I still fully expect that somebody, Belt or Morse or Posey, is going to start uncorking homers. There’s also a silver lining: Timmy. He was great, from all I heard (was home, couldn’t view by then). That ice jam is broken. (I hope his injury is minor.) Welcome back, Timmy.

  3. dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 23, 2014 at 7:03 am

    I was thinking the same, DJ. Otherwise it’s 2wins out of Bumgarner and hope for the best from Hudson, Peavy, Vogelsong. Not exactly inspiring.

  4. pawliekokonuts said, on October 23, 2014 at 7:08 am

    Maybe it was out of sheer survival but I did not like all our first-pitch takes off of Flat Hat Cocked Ventura. It almost always gave him an 0-1 count. Not good.

    • gianthead said, on October 23, 2014 at 7:41 am

      Pawlie, my kid and I have been saying the same thing all playoffs. Too many first-pitch swings. Think they will be ready for Ventura in a potential Game 6 rematch…

    • Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:08 am

      I agree Pawlie…and that has been the Giant’s MO for most of the year. They are not a patient lot…if they see a pitch they like (even the first pitch) they usually put a swing on it.

  5. gianthead said, on October 23, 2014 at 7:40 am

    I think Game 3 is going to be the one I will be most nervous about. I am confident in Voggy in Game 4 and Bum in 5. So we should be up 3-2 heading back to KC. If not, we don’t deserve to win.

    The reason IMO Loo you don’t use Bum on 3 days rest is that you have a guy named James Shields as their ace. That should lead to an easy Game 5 win without much taxing Bum’s arm and he should be able to pitch in a Game 7 late if needed. If we are up 3-2 and have Peavy against Ventura again, we probably clobber him and have a good lead to overcome their hard-throwing bullpen, making a Game 7 unnecessary.

    If anything goes wrong with Hudson in a Game 7, Petit will be the first call and I am very confident in his ability to put out any fires and go late into a game, leaving Bum available for an 7th or 8th inning appearance if needed. I could see Bum and Lincecum both used late

  6. twinfan1 said, on October 23, 2014 at 7:41 am

    The history of starters going on 3 days rest in the playoffs is not good. And this isn’t the old times- pitchers have been on pitch counts from Little League on and 5 man rotations for decades.. But it’s moot- ain’t happening. It’s *possible* that Bochy would do it in a game 7 None chance that he’d do it twice. 3,4,5 will be Huddy, Vogey, Bummie. All cutie pies.

    • WilcoJoe said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:02 am

      Agree.

      • WilcoJoe said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:03 am

        Although not necessarily the cutie pie part ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:12 am

        Agreed…and you beat me to commenting on the cutie pie thing, Wilco.

      • twinfan1 said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:24 am

        I’m sorry- Joey and Chuckie are also cutie pies.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:35 am

        lqtm

      • gianthead said, on October 23, 2014 at 9:07 am

        I thought that was Chuck’s daughter:())

      • unca_chuck said, on October 23, 2014 at 1:07 pm

        Hey now . . .

  7. willedav said, on October 23, 2014 at 7:47 am

    Bochy was trying to save as many pen guys as possible for later use in the 6th, esp in case game went long.
    I just picked things up on radio when Machi came in and after the hit (second time at least in playoffs he’s faced one guy and gave up a hit) Kruk said he’s run out of gas in Sept. I still think SF pen will be fine; it’s up to SPs to go deeper. Peavy has to come back next year too; if not, too many holes for Sabes to fill.

    NL game will be different in a lot of ways (esp for Yost) and Guthrie is very hittable. I might be tempted to go Bum in game 4 if Giants lost game 3. I do remember that’s how it used to be, but those were days of 4 man rotations. And occasionally even aces like Gibson wound up not pitching well in that game 7…if I remember right it was Law in Pittsburgh vs. Yanks in the famous Maz game.

  8. dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 23, 2014 at 7:58 am

    I’m not buying that Yost will be confused by the NL. He coached in Milwaukee 2002-2008.

    • Lurker John said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:56 am

      I certainly wouldn’t bank on it. The Giants need to put together a better game and not be concerned with how Yost is managing. His team has the talent and that give him some margin of error for any boneheaded moves.

      Game 3 is concerning for me. Huddy needs to be really good and the G’s really need to win. My problem is that neither Huddy or Vogey inspire a lot of confidence in me. If we get game 2 in the NLDS Huddy, we’ll be gold. If not, who knows. Same with Vogey.

  9. WilcoJoe said, on October 23, 2014 at 7:59 am

    I certainly don’t miss McCarver by any means and I generally think Reynolds is enjoyable to listen to, but he acted like he hadn’t seen the Giants play all year. At one point the camera panned to Bochy in the dugout doing his little nervous pace that he does as he considers his next moves, and Reynolds said he had never seen Bochy do that before. Really?

  10. WilcoJoe said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:10 am

    I thought Strickland handled himself well post game with the media by accepting blame and he said all the right things. I would hope that it’s put to rest, but you know FOX will continiue to show highlights of it during their game 3 intro as well as during every at bat by Perez and every time Strickland moves in the bullpen.

  11. willedav said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:15 am

    Yost did manage in the NL, just not very well, and hasn’t been putting this team out there much in NL yards 2014. Big edge Bochy, and Yost will definitely have to use his pen differently due to the LU. What does he do with Butler? Giants have been playing without Morse in LU for a while, and winning, so they are used to it.

    The FG column on Posey couple days ago mentioned he has been more aggressive early in count during his late season surge, on a tip from Meulens. Meulens thought he was being too patient and not attacking pitches he could hit.
    This has always been something that has bugged me. If a pitcher is *pounding the zone* and throwing strikes, esp early, why take them and allow him to get ahead in the count? Often winds up then the pitcher throws the slop out of the zone and the hitter swings at his pitch, without good result.

    • gianthead said, on October 23, 2014 at 9:18 am

      But only problem is that first pitch is good to get a sense of speed and movement from a new pitcher. Seems Posey has been late on a lot of those first swings. And then I think Posey has a great eye that even falling behind 0-1, he can cover the plate and take balls…

  12. Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:16 am

    I am not buying Yost being confused, either. KC played 10 games in NL yards this year (Sherpas, D-backs, Cards…maybe one other) and they went 8-2. I still think it an advantage, as they lose one of their big sticks (either Butler or Hosmer), and the pitcher has to pick-up some lumber. Certainly an advantage to being home…I hope our fans turn the phone park into a fucking mad house.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:25 am

      Agree with you there, Chi. If Butler goes to the bench I’m good with that.

  13. Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:19 am

    I am in a pretty good mood today, too. Fuck it…it was one game. The boys did what you want to do…split on the road.

    Awesome black and white of Pence against the fence…love it!

  14. twinfan1 said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:23 am

    The Royals are a totally different team when ahead. When behind after 5 it’s a different story- running game isn’t in play so much, not much of a bench, little power, and the bottom of the pen is no great shakes. Hudson vs. Guthrie is a favorable match up and so is MadBum-Shields. I see worst case scenario as going back to KC up 3 to 2.

    For all the Peavy people in the icy North Atlantic water- there ain’t no postseason without him.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:36 am

      Totally agree with you, twin. I just don’t think a 2-3 year deal to retain him is a good move.

      • gianthead said, on October 23, 2014 at 9:20 am

        I think he gets a Hudson like 2 year deal…

    • Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 10:34 am

      I agree with G-Head…I think he will be offered a contract very similar to Hudson’s, and I am down with that. Hey, even if Timmy makes the rotation next year, you still need another starter.

  15. Alleykat said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:27 am

    Butler is the odd man out know doubt,bad enough for KC to have to use Akoi in RF which will “Eat him Alive” in our park,but no way Butler plays LF IMO, so huge advantage for Giants not having Butler’s bat who is hot.

  16. DJLoo said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:52 am

    It’s been done successfully in the modern era:

    Curt Schilling 2001 WS (Age 34)

    Game 1 (10/27): 7.0 IP (102 pitches) (1 ER-8K)
    Game 4 (10/31): 7.0 IP ( 88 pitches) (1 ER-9K)
    Game 7 (11/04): 7.1 IP (103 pitches) (2 ER-9K)

    • Flavor said, on October 23, 2014 at 9:09 am

      nice find.

    • twinfan1 said, on October 23, 2014 at 9:20 am

      Since 2004, starters on short rest are 5-7 with a 4.72 ERA in 21 starts in the postseason. In that timeframe, teams using a starter on short rest are now a combined 5-12 against teams who use a starter on full rest.

      • DJLoo said, on October 23, 2014 at 9:27 am

        Well, it’s a case by case thing. My feeling is based on Bumgarner’s youth, size, mental make-up, and easy motion he is up to it. I posted the Schilling stat just to show that it has worked in recent history.

      • twinfan1 said, on October 23, 2014 at 10:07 am

        I won’t argue it since it won’t happen and we’ll both be left to wonder if it would have worked.

    • Macdog said, on October 23, 2014 at 12:08 pm

      Schilling pitched one less playoff game (4: 2 NLDS, 1 NLCS, 1 WS) heading into his second WS start than MadBum will have going into his (5: 1 WC, 1 NLDS, 2 NLCS, 1 WS).

  17. blade3colorado said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:53 am

    Ironically, the NL has the higher DL batting average (.249 to .243 I think I heard) in the post season since its inception. That being said, I agree with Kat that we have the advantage with Butler on the bench and Aoki in the Phone Park’s right field. I paid attention to Butler all season, since he was a dead weight on one of my fantasy league teams, until I waived his ass. I still continued to follow him and he got hot essentially one time during the season . . . and just our luck, now in the WS.

  18. Lurker John said, on October 23, 2014 at 9:04 am

    Butler’s been killing the Giants so far. Definitely a plus with him on the bench.

  19. dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 23, 2014 at 9:07 am

    Hudson will be going on 10 days rest so I am reasonably confident he’ll do well.

  20. Lurker John said, on October 23, 2014 at 9:11 am

    One of the best parts of the Pence photo is the 4 fans right behind him getting an eyeful of a tremendous play from about 3′ away. I love the look on their faces. Great shot by whoever the photog is. It’s taken me exactly one game to develop an intense dislike of the cocky Royals. Fuck it, call it baseball hate. I want to see a San Francisco beatdown laid on them in a big way. Is 3 in a row too much to ask of the G’s? Maybe, but wrapping the Series up at home would be the ultimate.

  21. dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 23, 2014 at 9:40 am

    With Lincecum’s absence in pregame intros of game 1 and Strickland melting down last night the national media is practically jizzing themselves.

    • Alleykat said, on October 23, 2014 at 10:37 am

      Well Timmy was vomiting all over the clubhouse floor Dirt during the introduction, so I’ll cut him some slack.
      Strickland I agree he just vomited and jizzed on himself in the game for sure..

    • Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 10:38 am

      Let them jizz themselves until the fucking cows come home. Maybe we can tie them all to the bumper of a big long 59 Caddy (similar to one Stretch rode in during the 2012 parade), and drag their asses down Market Street…

  22. stickman said, on October 23, 2014 at 9:42 am

    Time for me to play on that harp again. Most of you guys have read this before, so in case anybody forgot about the way it was done back in the day let me refresh you. The Fireman. Through the 50’s and 60’s the closer was not the big dealer from the bullpen. It was the fireman. This guy would have come in last night there in the 6th when those two guys got on base vs a flagging Peavy. Whether bullets or brainteasers he would have done what firemen did back in the day ~~ PUT OUT THE FRIGGEN FIRE.

    Giants have a couple of talented relievers in the pipeline, perhaps three. Off the top Derek Law and Cody Hall seem to have the best makeup of the system’s bullies. Perhaps Strickland is a bit like Petit in one way~ don’t put him in when there are runners already clogging up the bases. Petit absolutely prefers a clean start. Could be Strickland’s makeup is similar.

    Maybe the system does not have the guy with the ideal fireman’s demeanor. But there have to be several in MLB and the minors. Giants need to give more than strong consideration to that role. A fired-up fireman could have made all the difference last night.

  23. wswins said, on October 23, 2014 at 10:39 am

    Twin..I don’t know how you have the patience….

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 23, 2014 at 11:07 am

      Why not make your point instead of passive aggressive comments?

  24. Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 10:49 am

    I know what you are saying about the Fireman, Stix. Gossage was one of these guys…would come in and pitch 2 or 3 innings.

    I think overall, our bullpen is fine, with the exception that they must find a guy who can reliably bridge the gap from the starter to the 7th when Bochy can turn the game over to Affeldt (Lopez for any lefties), Romo, and Casilla.

    I also think Strikland has the make-up to be a good reliever (either with bases clean or runners on). Not sure I want to see him in a key situation for the remainder of the series. I think once he has a spring to work with our staff (Gardner, Rags, etc.), then he will be much improved. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out in ST next year.

    • stickman said, on October 23, 2014 at 11:06 am

      Chi: Agree on Strickland. Bochy obviously was ensorcelled by the BTU’s. He just was not yet ready for the high-leverage, high-tension situations. No question he has the potential and that SF’s pitching coaches have been known to make coaches out of pumpkins. So unless Strickland is deeply set in his ways they should bring him around ~ next Spring like you note. His use in the low-pressure situation a couple nights back was all good but did lead BB15 to last night’s fatal decision. If nobody else has learned from that the guy with the capacious cranium sure will have done so.

      My ideal fireman candidate may not need to do a Gossage goosing for 2-3 innings, merely stifle the suckers in that one crucial frame.

      • Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 12:43 pm

        Exactly, Stix. And that is what I was alluding to…a guy to bridge between the starters and the 7th. Our starters have been getting into the 5th and 6th…rarely finishing the 6th. In those instances, you need “that guy.” That Firman mofo…

  25. Lurker John said, on October 23, 2014 at 10:56 am

    The Rolaids Fireman of the Year Award. I remember that thing. Shooter won it once, Rags won it twice with the Yank-mees.

  26. James said, on October 23, 2014 at 11:03 am

    What’s most galling about the Royals is the perception that their success may somehow change the rules about what a good offense looks like. Their stolen bases are about as relevant to their success as all of Ned Yost’s bunts — pretty much not at all.

    In addition to the excellent pitching, they’ve done well in the playoffs because they’ve started to do what every good offense does — get on base, something they weren’t that good at during the regular season. Their season runs scored totals track most closely to their team OBP and OPS, just like all other teams. The stolen bases have no correlation to runs scored or wins. The 2013 team was almost identical in its SB numbers, but they only won 86 games because they weren’t quite as lucky as the 2014 edition.

  27. Alleykat said, on October 23, 2014 at 11:10 am

    They used to have a pack of cigarettes award for Earl Weaver every time he brought in Don Stackhouse to relieve..

  28. twinfan1 said, on October 23, 2014 at 11:45 am

    Gold Glove finalists announced, Pablo the only Giant.

    Gold Glove award winners are announced November 4, but in the meantime Rawlings just named three finalists for each position in each league:

    AL, catcher: Alex Avila, Yan Gomes, Salvador Perez
    AL, first base: Eric Hosmer, Miguel Cabrera, Albert Pujols
    AL, second base: Robinson Cano, Dustin Pedroia, Ian Kinsler
    AL, third base: Josh Donaldson, Adrian Beltre, Kyle Seager
    AL, shortstop: Alcides Escobar, J.J. Hardy, Alexei Ramirez
    AL, left field: Alex Gordon, Michael Brantley, Yoenis Cespedes
    AL, center field: Adam Jones, Adam Eaton, Jackie Bradley Jr.
    AL, right field: Kole Calhoun, Kevin Kiermaier, Nick Markakis
    AL, pitcher: Mark Buehrle, Felix Hernandez, Dallas Keuchel

    NL, catcher: Jonathan Lucroy, Russell Martin, Yadier Molina
    NL, first base: Adrian Gonzalez, Justin Morneau, Adam LaRoche
    NL, second base: D.J. LeMahieu, Brandon Phillips, Chase Utley
    NL, third base: Nolan Arenado, Juan Uribe, Pablo Sandoval
    NL, shortstop: Zack Cozart, Adeiny Hechavarria, Andrelton Simmons
    NL, left field: Justin Upton, Starling Marte, Christian Yelich
    NL, center field: Billy Hamilton, Denard Span, Juan Lagares
    NL, right field: Jason Heyward, Gerardo Parra, Giancarlo Stanton
    NL, pitcher: Zack Greinke, Clayton Kershaw, Adam Wainwright

    • DJLoo said, on October 23, 2014 at 11:48 am

      Morse snubbed?

      • Flavor said, on October 23, 2014 at 12:13 pm

        He’s already wrapped up the Stone Glove Award.

      • Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 12:46 pm

        LMAO…good ones Loo and Flav…

      • Alleykat said, on October 23, 2014 at 1:20 pm

        Thought that award always went to Fred Lewis?

  29. willedav said, on October 23, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    Yost time in Milwaukee started off badly with a couple last place finishes, got to .500 then nearer the top. But it did not end well when he got let go with only a couple weeks left in 2008 as mgmt. grew exasperated with him; his team had also cratered the year before that.
    And now he has to start thinking—where is pitcher spot in the LU and how do I manage around my best hitter being on the bench? Or do I try and hide him somewhere in the field? Again, big edge Bochy, esp if KC doesn’t have the lead.
    The Royals beat up on Sherps and Dbax? Great, so did everyone else, considering these two lost about 190 games btw them this year.
    Post season is just different, and now he has to try and hold off SF in their yard playing NL ball. I don’t see it.

    • Nipper said, on October 23, 2014 at 12:22 pm

      I concur.

    • Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 12:47 pm

      I agree, WillieD…but St. Loo was in the mix there as part of their 8-2 record in NL yards. Point taken, tho.

  30. ODB said, on October 23, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    Of course that slimy cum bucket Passan takes another chance to rip the Giants today on Yahoo

    • WilcoJoe said, on October 23, 2014 at 12:39 pm

      That’s the pot calling the kettle black.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 23, 2014 at 12:43 pm

      ODB, Where you been bro?

  31. zumiee said, on October 23, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    I don’t have any confidence about the trio Peavey, Hudson, and Vogelsong the third time through the lineup. After two times through the Royals lineup, I would have the bullpen warming up, and pull the starter after the first guy gets on base, regardless if the starter gets his feelings hurt.
    Over the years, I’ve gotten cynical about the phrase “short leash,” because managers’s “short leashes” are never short enough, IMO. They always wait until too much damage has been done, IMO.

    • Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 12:49 pm

      Zume – you need to go run Bochy’s ass outta the dugout and show him how to manager a staff. (Grin)

      Just messin’ with ya, Zume…I do agree with you about after 2 times through the line-up with those three starters…

  32. Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    Will be interesting to see if Timmy is good to go from the back spasms or whatever the hell happened last night. He looked good through five batters. If he cannot go, I would guess that Kontos would take his spot on the 25. That’ll make Zumiee’s day.

    • zumiee said, on October 23, 2014 at 12:53 pm

      Well…………….. ๐Ÿ™‚

  33. James said, on October 23, 2014 at 12:57 pm

    Both Yost and Bochy have guys in the bullpen who arguably might make their rotations stronger. Why Duffy is not in the rotation is puzzling. Petit has the best numbers of all the starters not named Bumgarner, although Peavey was excellent for SF alone. It’s not often you need a guy in long relief in a game that’s close enough that you’re likely to win. SPs are still the most important players on the field in any one game.

  34. zumiee said, on October 23, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    The ‘MadBum on three day’s rest’ idea is intriguing, but I agree with TF, it won’t happen. IMO, Bochy would feel like he’s gambling with the well-being of Bum’s arm, and Boch won’t do that.
    But the storyline would be…..awesome, if it somehow happened. The big country boy putting this team on his back and taking them to the championship.

    This next start is the biggest start of Hudson’s career. We really need his A-game on Friday night.

    I do very much appreciate all that the Giants have accomplished so far this season. I was kicking dirt on them back in July, and if someone had offered me “the Giants in the World Series, 1-1, going back to SF,” I would have taken that in a nano-second. It’s an incredibly cool thing for the Giants to be in the Series again, and about to play 3 games in SF.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on October 23, 2014 at 1:49 pm

      doomer Pawlie has to keep reminding himself of just that….(don’t you just hate it when people refer to themselves in the 3rd person?)

      • unca_chuck said, on October 23, 2014 at 2:18 pm

        Unca Chuck would never do that . . .

  35. WilcoJoe said, on October 23, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    What’s the weather look like this weekend? Will I be okay with shorts and a pullover or long sleeve shirt? Jeans in the evening?

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 23, 2014 at 1:24 pm

      http://www.refinery29.com/men-street-style#slide

      I see you as slide #3 or #11.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on October 23, 2014 at 1:41 pm

        Oh no. I didn’t pack any artisanal, organically woven, grass-fed-sheep clothing.

      • WilcoJoe said, on October 23, 2014 at 1:43 pm

        Ha! I am way more hipster than those dudes.

      • unca_chuck said, on October 23, 2014 at 2:22 pm

        When did capri pants become a thing?

        Half the dudes there look like Laura Petrie.

    • twinfan1 said, on October 23, 2014 at 2:18 pm

      The orange and black body paint should keep you warm. Just cover the boys.

  36. Irish Kevin said, on October 23, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    So the bullpen finally laid an egg. not surprising when you use a guy that had already given up 4 homers in 4 playoff games. And Machi who pitched great from April through June and then has pitched like Timmy or Zito for the rest of the year. If I don’t see Strickland and Machi for the rest of the series it won’t bother me a bit. I also disagree that Strickland can be a good/great reliever. He is a one pitch wonder. IMO. As far as Peavy is concerned, if the Giants win the WS, give him a nice pat on the back as you walk him to the door. If there is one thing that has been proven with this year the Giants farm system is not as bad as I thought . It has always been the Giants need that proven vet to get them over the hump. Well tell that to Panik and Susac. The Giants have plenty of proven talent to get the job done.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on October 23, 2014 at 1:32 pm

      I agree with all you say, except for Peavy. I’d give him two years. The rest? I’m with ya.

    • Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 2:28 pm

      Well, we can agree to disagree on Strickland. If you are around next year, I will remind you of your words…as I am certain Strickland will make the cut. And BTW…he has more than one pitch…he has his heater and he has a pretty damned good slider that works quite well on LH hitters. You also have to remember, the kid just got the call from AA ball. Not many hurlers have developed multiple pitches at this juncture in their career. If I am wrong…I will eat my words on Strickland…but I won’t be wrong.

      And who do you go get as a starter if you do not bring back Peavy? Names or those who will be FAs next year??

      RE: the farm. Yes, it has been better than many thought, but you still need a good mix of young talent and battle-tested vets, IMO.

  37. pawliekokonuts said, on October 23, 2014 at 1:31 pm

    At Ithaca Tompkins Regional Airport. Phase 1 of #worldseriesbound.

    • Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 2:30 pm

      Happy Flight Mr. Kokonuts. Wish I was going to see you this time around.

    • Lurker John said, on October 23, 2014 at 2:52 pm

      Should be a ton of fun. Nothing quite like boarding a plan with a killer destination on the other end.

  38. twinfan1 said, on October 23, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    Peavy was being trashed by commenters in the first couple innings, he settled down and then in the 6th gives up a bloop and a walk and now it’s thanks for the memories, close the door on your way out. Man, tough crowd.

    • Irish Kevin said, on October 23, 2014 at 2:04 pm

      Ha ha. Yeah I would be a hell of a GM huh Mike?? ha ha

      • twinfan1 said, on October 23, 2014 at 2:15 pm

        Well, Dave Roberts would still be playing CF if I was the GM, so I might not be on the short list for the job, either..

      • unca_chuck said, on October 23, 2014 at 2:23 pm

        And Ray Ray would be manning 2nd base . . .

      • WilcoJoe said, on October 23, 2014 at 3:07 pm

        And if I was GM, Lance Berkman would still be playing 1b as a Giant and Bumgarner would be an Astro…Ah, good times!

    • Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 2:31 pm

      IMO Peavy did his job and got jobbed by a poor showing of the bullpen. If we don’t have Peavy…we’re already hot stoving it (not in the WS).

  39. unca_chuck said, on October 23, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    If Strickland can throw that 92 MPH slider with semi-regularity, he’ll be great. Shades of Robb Nen (or is it Rob Nenn?). His problem is leaning too much on the fastball.

    • Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 2:35 pm

      Agree…you give him an off-season to work with Gardy and Raggs, etc. and I think he will be pretty damned good.

      • DJLoo said, on October 23, 2014 at 6:37 pm

        Ain’t happening unless they all live on the same block…

      • chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 10:32 pm

        Loo – if nothing else, he will get some help during a fall or winter league, and also in ST. The dude has too much raw talent to not get that kind of attention. They had to think highly of him to bring him up from AA in September, and subsequently keep him on the 25 man roster for the duration of the post season.

  40. unca_chuck said, on October 23, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    If Peavy will sign a 2 year deal, I’d do it in a second. Huddy is a pretty big ? Timm? an even bigger one. Vogie? Cain? Anyone not named Snotrockets is iffy.

    • Chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 2:34 pm

      Exactly, Charlie. Those wanting to “pat him on the back and show him the door” need to wake up…yeah…I’m talkin’ ’bout you, Kevin. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • Irish Kevin said, on October 23, 2014 at 3:52 pm

        like I told Mike I would make one hell of a GM!! ha ha just like everyone else on this blogg!! ha ha

      • chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 10:33 pm

        I would look forward to putting my team up against your team Kevin. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  41. unca_chuck said, on October 23, 2014 at 2:41 pm

    Yeah, we don’t really have the luxury of getting 4/5th of a new pitching staff this offseason.

    Irish, I’m not sure if we can retool the starters from the farm just yet.

  42. salty said, on October 23, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    There’s some depth next yr among FA pitchers. Hey go all Beane and sign Lester or Scherzer. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Peavy is a good fit here with Bochy and ATT. He’d be smart to come backand I’m sure they will want him back at a reasonable price.

    • Alleykat said, on October 23, 2014 at 3:16 pm

      Take Lester in a heartbeat to compliment Snots,and balance back the starters with 2 lefties. Scherzer no way, 2 scary a guy with 2 different color eyes!

    • chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 10:35 pm

      Agree Salt. Not only does Peavy have the connection with Bochy, but also with Flan Man. Great fit IMO for something along the lines of what Hudson got (2 at 20).

  43. zumiee said, on October 23, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    Hopefully Cain bounces back well from the elbow surgery, and resembles his ol’ Horse self again next season. We haven’t seen his Horse-level quality in a while.

  44. zumiee said, on October 23, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    Awesome black and white version of the Pence catch. It’s cool what black and white can do to a photo. The photo takes on greater depth in some way.

    • Flavor said, on October 23, 2014 at 4:18 pm

      Agreed. Looks like something from the 80’s

  45. Irish Kevin said, on October 23, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    It is a wait and see for Cain. I think he will be fine.

  46. zumiee said, on October 23, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    The True Blue L.A. blog has this bit of riveting news. S-L-O-W news day down south:

    “LOS ANGELES — The Angels have released its 2015 spring training schedule, which includes information about the annual exhibition Freeway Series between the Dodgers and Angels.
    In 2015, the two clubs will play two games at Angel Stadium in Anaheim on Thursday, April 2 and Friday, April 3 before finishing up the three-game set on Saturday, April 4 at Dodger Stadium. Both games in Anaheim will be at 7:05 p.m. PT. The start time for the game at Dodger Stadium hasn’t yet been determined.”

    • zumiee said, on October 23, 2014 at 4:57 pm

      That’s not the series their fans wanted to be thinking about right now.

    • Nipper said, on October 23, 2014 at 7:31 pm

      Yeah but is the price of a Dodger Dog?

    • chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 11:22 pm

      Yeah, and the Giants will make similar announcements about games with the A’s. Oh, but wait, it will have to happen after they finish playing October baseball in World Series thing. dodgers and their fans might not even remember what that feels like.

  47. zumiee said, on October 23, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    A tale of two teams; Buster Olney tweets:

    “In going from Oakland to the Red Sox as hitting coach, Chili Davis nearly tripled his salary, going from $155,000 to over $400,000.”

  48. sfsarge said, on October 23, 2014 at 5:31 pm

    Speaking of slow news days, I’m pretty sure the Royals drove past me today. Four or five busses with about a dozen motorcycle cops escorting them through the city.

    • DJLoo said, on October 23, 2014 at 6:38 pm

      Shoulda egged ’em, Sarge…

    • chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 11:24 pm

      Sarge, that was probably the Giants. They rolled in today (spent the night in KC), and went straight to the yard with families in tow prior to their workout this afternoon.

  49. Nipper said, on October 23, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    Too many blue teams in baseball.

    • stickman said, on October 23, 2014 at 8:16 pm

      Right now St. Louis has got the bluuz while the LaBumbos are reminiscing about the Dog-Daze of Summer.

      • chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 11:25 pm

        Yes. How does that what…seven or eight game lead in July feel like now compared to playing in the World Series. Could not happen to a better team. Fuck the bums…

  50. snarkk said, on October 23, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    I’m in far NorCal, raining here all day . If this moves south, the Saturday game could be screwed…

    • chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 11:29 pm

      If the hourly projections are anywhere near accurate, there is a chance for a few showers early in the morning (3-6 or so), again around 2 pm, and possibly a few in the evening (8-9ish). It certainly does not look like enough to postpone the game. Local weather is saying it should all pass the City prior to game time.

    • chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 11:50 pm

      test…

  51. twinfan1 said, on October 23, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    Hudson vs. current Royals- http://tinyurl.com/o7tso37
    Vogey- http://tinyurl.com/leazz9x

    Guthrie vs., current Giants – http://tinyurl.com/lhtanqs
    Vargas-http://tinyurl.com/qgylxvr

    Make of these what you will, I haven’t checked on how recent the ABs were. Of note- we’ve destroyed Vargas and Huddy has fared very well against the current Royals. “On paper” we seem to have the edge in both match ups.
    Only about 20 at bats against Vogey by Royals but Infante has 13 of them with 9 hits.

  52. chipower9 said, on October 23, 2014 at 11:50 pm

    Thanks for the stats Michael. Yeah, saw the small sample size for Vogey…just pitch around Infante… ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • DJLoo said, on October 24, 2014 at 4:55 am

      The way Timmy pitches around Goldschmidt?

      • twinfan1 said, on October 24, 2014 at 5:57 am

        The older I get the meaner I get- just conk the SOB and when Vogey gets tossed have Petit ready to go.


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