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Bum and Pete Frates

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on December 10, 2014

Just a very cool picture from last night. Bum is operating on a whole different social level these days. And he’s apparently using hair product now which I find hilarious on a lqtm-level…..

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  1. DJLoo said, on December 10, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    I would give anything to see him host Saturday Night Live…

    • Flavor said, on December 10, 2014 at 8:17 pm

      with you

      • Flavor said, on December 10, 2014 at 8:17 pm

        um, which one…..

      • Flavor said, on December 10, 2014 at 8:17 pm

        now that i think about it, Im with you with either one.

      • DJLoo said, on December 10, 2014 at 9:08 pm

        I meant Bum. I had to google the other guy. Didn’t know who he is.

  2. James said, on December 10, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    He and Belt could both become yokel sex symbols with the right make overs.

  3. paulinasia said, on December 10, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    New hair product, huh…. my infantile mind conjures that old grade school joke about “Why is your hair green?” and pictures Bum catching some of those snot rockets in his hand to smooth back his mane….

    • Irish Kevin said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:04 am

      Reminds me of the movie Something About Mary.

  4. dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 10, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    His acceptance speech was really good.

  5. stickman said, on December 10, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    I know Bumgarner is young and green but wearing a necktie is stupidity unlimited. I haven’t even worn one to funerals of close family members ~ though i do have a very nice ca late ’40’s turquoise, bear claws and silver bolo which gets the rare outing. A Canadian anthropologist once pointed out that you can tell who are the slaves in any given society. They are the ones obliged to wear the symbology around their throats.

    • Chipower9 said, on December 11, 2014 at 10:06 am

      It is all good. Bum has said that his favorite thing is to get up about an hour before dawn and go out by himself and feed his animals. And I doubt he is rocking a tie when he does it. This is the man’s FIRST suit, EVER. He looks pretty damned good, IMO.

      And what else would you expect from a Canuck (re: neck wear)…

  6. Bozo said, on December 10, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    From what I read, Bum wore Levis to his wedding and this new suit he got for the award, is the first he has owned. Gotta love it.

    • Chipower9 said, on December 11, 2014 at 10:07 am

      Missed your “first suit” comment, John. I agree…

  7. Hargesheimer said, on December 10, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    Losing Lester has an upside: Sabean now has Melk money to burn.

  8. snarkk said, on December 10, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    Gotta admit I did not know who the guy in the wheelchair was. He’s the guy behind the ice bucket challenge for ALS. Gotta give him major props for his efforts…

  9. snarkk said, on December 10, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    Bum acceptance speech (30 second commercial precedes).
    Really good…

    • zumiee said, on December 10, 2014 at 10:15 pm

      Very cool; thanks for posting it.

  10. snarkk said, on December 10, 2014 at 10:29 pm

    I don’t know if the Giants have reached the absolute zenith of what a MLB team can accomplish now in a 5 year period, in this modern day era of free agency. I hope not, since every year we look forward to a possible post season run. But, I’ll say this. After seeing this MadBum award deal, I’m trying to envision how much better a season could end than this one did. Catch a crazy wave of excellence, toughness, excitement and breaks through the entire playoffs. See a pennant winning walkoff, and the best performance by your stud starter in the post season since they started keeping records. Now, capped by this very meaningful award to your stud, from out of the blue. The bask-o-meter needle keeps heading higher and higher into the red zone of bask — the meter is starting to smoke…

  11. Flavor said, on December 11, 2014 at 6:06 am

    Pete Frates is a true inspiration. You should watch this espn story on him if you don’t know the details of his journey

  12. pawliekokonuts said, on December 11, 2014 at 7:35 am

    I’m tempted to be rattled by the Dodgers’ seismic makeover, but upon reflection feel that the Giants’ NOT drastically changing is a good thing. But still. A liitle TOO quiet on the Western front.

    • stickman said, on December 11, 2014 at 7:58 am

      Looking forward to Kemp having a VERY good season next go round ~ especially vs his former team.

      • Hargesheimer said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:36 am

        Likelier to have it v. SF, though.

  13. willedav said, on December 11, 2014 at 7:38 am

    Watched some of Cal vs. Wyoming last night to see Larry Nance Jr., whom I saw last year before he went down with injury. Looks good, best player on bad team (and Cal isn’t very good either) and wears #22 just like his dad. He has long way to go to match Dad’s skills and accomplishments.

  14. DJLoo said, on December 11, 2014 at 8:35 am

    Cespedes to Detroit for Porcello is what I think I just heard.
    Are the Dodgers improving or not?

    • zumiee said, on December 11, 2014 at 8:43 am

      At the moment, they’ve gotten worse for 2015, IMO. We’ll see what other moves they make.

  15. FanSince59 said, on December 11, 2014 at 8:39 am

    Am I the only one frustrated that the Giants are getting nothing done (and in fact have lost a major contributor)while all of the others are retooling?…There are so many holes to fill and yet the Giants are coming up empty!

    • sfsarge said, on December 11, 2014 at 8:48 am

      No, not at all. I keep looking to see what the Giants are involved in and that big goose egg is starting to get frustrating. Maybe now that Bobby Evans isn’t talking to the media so much they might actually go sign some players.
      Although I’m glad they aren’t making moves that don’t make sense just because othere teams are making moves

    • salty said, on December 11, 2014 at 8:53 am

      Sure Giants FO shares your frustation. What are you going to do? There have to be limits.
      Credit them for going all in on Pablo and Lester.
      Focus has been on those two, but it doesn’t mean they haven’t contacted other agents, looked to make a trade and scoured the bargain bin. They did get er…, what’s his name as possible 4h OF. πŸ˜‰

  16. sfsarge said, on December 11, 2014 at 8:44 am

    So, with the Reds trading away one of their starters, I think that kills the idea someone mentioned about trading for Karate kick Cueto. I actually kinda liked that idea.

    It’s awesome that Bum is getting his due. Seems like a real class guy

  17. zumiee said, on December 11, 2014 at 8:51 am

    At the moment, the ’15 Dodger lineup would be something like
    Crawford
    Rollins
    Kendrick
    Puig
    A-Gon
    Uribe
    Joc Pederson
    Grandel
    Pitcher

    Anybody shaking in their boots over that?
    The Dodgers will, of course, have strong starting pitching. But there’s a lot of age in certain parts of that batting order, and more potential drop-off. They’re really counting on Puig to have a major break-out season, and that’s not a certainty.

    • zumiee said, on December 11, 2014 at 8:56 am

      And even their starting pitching has some questions. McCarthy and Nicasio? That could fizzle. And one of these days, Kershaw will come back down to earth a bit (like he does in the playoffs.)
      Greinke can opt out of his contract after the ’15 season.

  18. dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 11, 2014 at 8:56 am

    Seeing news that SF has been talking to Santana as well as Shields. Who would you prefer of those two? They’re somewhat comparable but I would go with Shields.

    • Chipower9 said, on December 11, 2014 at 8:59 am

      From straight pitching, I would go with Santana. If the Giants go there, it will cost them a pick, though.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:07 am

        Yeah, they’re pretty comparable in stats and age. Both would benefit from the yard in SF. I’d go Shields because I think he’s slightly better. I don’t think the whole Big Game James nickname is going to work anymore though. How about get off the field Shields?

      • DJLoo said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:35 am

        How does “Down in Flames, James” grab you?

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 11, 2014 at 12:47 pm

        Like a pinch on the neck from Mr. Spock!

  19. Chipower9 said, on December 11, 2014 at 8:57 am

    Excellent thread, and thanks to snarkk for sharing the acceptance speech. Very cool.

    I was reading Verducci’s piece the other day, and was amazed that Mad almost quit during his first spring. Wanted to hang it up and go home, and his mom set him straight. Thanks, Mom!

    I am not tripping at all on the Giants lack of activity. You guys (FanSince59 and sarge) must forget how Sabean operates. I trust him and his crew to make the required changes to keep this team competitive.

    The latest I have heard is that they are pursuing Santana, but the Twins are ready to offer four years, and I had heard the Giants wanted to go only three with him.

    Have also read that the Giants will NOT pursue Scherzer, but will make a hard run at Shields. Yesterday it was reported that the Giants are also interested in both Upton and Gattis (nice play by GiantHead yesterday in talking these two as potential pieces).

    Again, I am not fretting on the current lack of activity. Everyone just needs to take a chill pill, knock it back with a cocktail, and enjoy the bask.

  20. Irish Kevin said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:08 am

    From earlier posts, I too would love to see Bum host SNL.
    Stickman, The wearing of a Tie. Someone wrote that the Tie was invented by a woman. who else would put a noose around a mans neck and make it a fashion statement.

  21. wilcojoe said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:11 am

    I for one am perfectly content with the Giants sitting back and watching the chips fall, especially at it pertains to their only true competetion in the division, da bums. A ton of activity going on right now and a lot of these guys getting moved are pending free agents…Now, had we missed the playoffs, I would probably be calling for Sabean’s head right about now πŸ˜‰

  22. salty said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:18 am

    I’m put off by Shields postseason numbers.

  23. Bozo said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:46 am

    Hope all y’all out west keep high and dry. Stay safe.

    • Irish Kevin said, on December 11, 2014 at 10:09 am

      I am swimming with the ducks. and they are very happy

      • Bozo said, on December 11, 2014 at 11:47 am

        Hang in there Kevin.

  24. James said, on December 11, 2014 at 10:23 am

    Post season numbers are about as relevant as clutch hitting stats, i.e., over a long enough period of time, they reflect the player’s overall stats. Willie Mays had shitty post season numbers. With 600 PAs instead of 100, they wouldn’t be.

  25. Flavor said, on December 11, 2014 at 11:05 am

    twins got Santana. I should care about all these players going elsewhere but I don’t…

  26. Chipower9 said, on December 11, 2014 at 11:17 am

    Yep…just saw the Santana news. Not surprised. I had heard the Giants had no desire to go four years. I am with you Flav…I am confident that Sabes and crew will do a fine job of reloading our line-up.

  27. unca_chuck said, on December 11, 2014 at 11:17 am

    Earvin Santana to the twines. 4/54 mil . . .

  28. dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 11, 2014 at 11:18 am

    I don’t know why but I’m kinda bummed that the club is missing out on players. Maybe Shields can show some improvement with a move to the NL and AT&T park? Lowrie, paging Lowrie…

  29. unca_chuck said, on December 11, 2014 at 11:18 am

    Bart was a mess getting into the city. 80% of the streetlights are out in the fi-di . . .

  30. unca_chuck said, on December 11, 2014 at 11:21 am

    Yeah, I’m not too concerned at this point. These big deals are an anathema to the various teams for the most part. Unless Cain pulls out of his troubles, his deal will be seen as a shitty one.

    I have hope that his floating bodies are gone and he pitches without pain and gets back to his old self.

  31. sfsarge said, on December 11, 2014 at 11:24 am

    That’s the thing that bothers me the most is just seeing players going to other teams. I guess Shields it is. It would have been cool to get Cespedes, but what would they have had to give up to get him? I imagine the price would have been pretty steep, considering what Detroit gave up.

  32. dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 11, 2014 at 11:25 am

    Agree with you on the deals, chuck. The club is winning by losing on those players. I think Cain will be fine. The rest was probably the best thing for him.

  33. Bozo said, on December 11, 2014 at 11:40 am

    The other teams have to make these deals, they didn’t have a World Champion roster to start with.

    • DJLoo said, on December 11, 2014 at 12:20 pm

      Neither do we. We just win them anyway…

      • Bozo said, on December 11, 2014 at 12:45 pm

        That cracked me up, but so true.

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  35. pawliekokonuts said, on December 11, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    Marlins looking like a decent team, ON FECKING PAPER, as if that matters. I have to say, isn’t this the one of the wildest winter meetings in a while?

  36. DJLoo said, on December 11, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    We have no trade chips. None.
    Our best hope outside of the FA market is to take a contract off some cash-trapped, non-contender’s hands for some prospects.
    If not now then in July.
    Beltre, Colon, etc.

  37. Chipower9 said, on December 11, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    Actually, the Giants system is flush with young pitching prospects. So, a trade could be a possibility.

    And if all else fails…you have this:

    http://blog.sfgate.com/giants/2014/12/10/13812/

    • Irish Kevin said, on December 11, 2014 at 2:22 pm

      Just say NO to old guys.

    • DJLoo said, on December 11, 2014 at 3:54 pm

      I’d bring in Dirrrrty for a look before that…

  38. gianthead said, on December 11, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    Oh well on Santana. I did not want to go past 3 years and maybe that is what Sabean and team thought as well, so Twins went the extra year. I am still not thrilled Shields. And it is not necessarily post-season record. I just don’t remember him having a ton of pop to his arm and think he would be meat in the NL.

    If Santana got $54 mill, then don’t you all think Shields gets even more. Maybe waiting in a year from now and Zimmerman and Cueto becoming free agents is a better long term solution. I am not sold on David Price long term.

    Sabean’s comment that trades to fill in 3B and LF are more likely seems apt at this point. I don’t see much better choices than Upton and Johnson in one deal. As feared, Boston could get a 3rd starter type for Cespedes and Porcello may be a little better than that.

    • Chipower9 said, on December 11, 2014 at 3:14 pm

      I am down with Shields. I would have prefered Santana. Pop in his arm? Uh, there were a number of very successful pitchers who didn’t throw heat (think Greg Maddux).

      With lifetime stats of 3.72/1.220 (ERA/WHIP) and the fact that he has thrown over 200 innings every year expect the year he broke in, I think he would be a decent addition. This all depends on length of contract and $$$ of course.

      • gianthead said, on December 11, 2014 at 4:44 pm

        will be mor ein dollars and year than Santana. I say we hold and see if you can get Peavy back and let Lincecum and Pettit have a go at spring training for the 5th spot. I sm not opposed to giving Voggy minor league deal and if he makes the team as the 5th starter he can get a bonus clause of $5 mill.

  39. dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 11, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    Bobby Evans is out talking to the press again. I’m just going to assume that reports of the Giants finishing second for Shields are coming soon.

    • zumiee said, on December 11, 2014 at 3:35 pm

      πŸ™‚

    • Flavor said, on December 11, 2014 at 5:43 pm

      did he say anything about thinking he might not be presented a rose or that he thought roses would be on short supply during the Shields decision? That’s usually how I gauge our chances…..

    • snarkk said, on December 11, 2014 at 6:52 pm

      Sabes sends Bobby Evans out when the announcement is that somebody left, or some FA just dissed the Giants. Sabes will come out and speak if somebody gets signed.
      He’ll send up some white smoke first.
      “Habemus Player”…

  40. Hargesheimer said, on December 11, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    The Santana news at least means that the Melk money continues to be there.

  41. salty said, on December 11, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    G’s prefer to have another Lefty starter. Wonder what it would take to pry Hamels away?

    • Flavor said, on December 11, 2014 at 5:44 pm

      All the chips we have. Probably not worth it for us.

  42. paulinasia said, on December 11, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    It’s actually a little refreshing to see LA acting as if they have *a plan* instead of just throwing big money around. So much action on their part and yet, they can’t be done yet because as Zum said, they appear weaker now than before. Maybe the new blood will change that *chemistry* … πŸ™‚ What matters is what the Giants do. They had and still have just 3 needs: new 3rd bagger, new LFer, and new frontline pitcher. Just 3. Hah. And I fully believe Sabes will ably fill those needs. Maybe soon, please, so we have something new to talk about here….

    • snarkk said, on December 11, 2014 at 6:49 pm

      Absolutely agree with those 3 needs, those are the keys.
      Sabes will make the usual Pen reload, with one or two arms from outside the org. I assume Romo is gone, Strickland replaces, if he can find a way to throw more sliders, fewer gopher balls…

    • Macdog said, on December 11, 2014 at 8:15 pm

      I’m not sure why the Dodgers feel the need to so much tinkering. They won 90-some games last year and the NL West going away. The only reason they didn’t get out of the 1st round of the playoffs is because their All-World pitcher stunk it up in Game 1 and couldn’t keep another lead in Game 4. Yes, they could’ve hit better, but just about every playoff team goes through that. But if they want to tear some of it down and try to build it back up, that’s fine with me.

    • Hargesheimer said, on December 12, 2014 at 1:28 pm

      i.e., just three new frontline pitchers.

  43. paulinasia said, on December 11, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    I like this quote from Richard Justice about the Giants so-far lack of activity in the off-season: “About the surest bet in baseball is that general manager Brian Sabean will make a couple of deals before Opening Day and that both will work out.” Hear hear. Or is it here here. Or there there.
    http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/103869670/2014-mlb-winter-meetings-grades

  44. snarkk said, on December 11, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    Some interesting stats on LH vs RH batters and pitchers in MLB, based on 2012 season.
    43% of MLB PAs were left handed. Yet, only 12% of men in the general population are left handed
    http://www.sbnation.com/hot-corner/2013/6/25/4459894/baseball-questions-from-my-dad
    So, why would a GM seek a LHP heavy starting staff, when the majority of MLB hitters are RH, and stats say the book is right — RH batters hit lefties better than they hit righties….

  45. unca_chuck said, on December 11, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    Frankly I think Pagan’s health will again be an issue they need to deal with. Even if they won w/o him, they can’t count on that same scenario working out again.

    • James said, on December 11, 2014 at 8:13 pm

      Pagan is not even close to being a make or break player, Chuck. His stats are all you need look at. The Pagan Salute has zero effect on whether the Giants win or lose.

  46. unca_chuck said, on December 11, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    Well the same is true for hitters. There are a lot more lefty (and switch) hitters in baseball than in the general populace.

  47. paulinasia said, on December 11, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    Snarkk, agree on the lefty pitcher thing. Ok, having more than 1 lefty starter, not a bad idea, but for a brief while there, the Giants had Sanchez, Zito, and Bumgarner, which I thought played into the strengths of the opposing team: righty hitters at China Basin.

  48. James said, on December 11, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    The question you raise about lefties, Snarkk, is one that’s occurred to me before — is there some major disparity between L/L and R/R match ups?

  49. paulinasia said, on December 11, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    James, I understand your thought that Pagan’s stats “are all you need to look at”, but I don’t think they’re ALL you need to look at, as we’ve discussed before. He did seem to inject a certain amount of enthusiasm and spark at the top of the line-up, and enthusiasm has no statistic to measure it. However….. you’re also right that the Giants did just win another World Series without him, didn’t they… πŸ™‚ At any rate, whether you like his stats or his intangibles, I do hope he stays rather healthy in 2015, it can’t hurt.

    • James said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:02 pm

      Paul, I have always *liked* Pagan and think that if he stays healthy all year long, it will help offset the loss of Pablo, which becomes more or less important depending on the off season moves (or non-moves).

      • paulinasia said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:42 pm

        Agree.

  50. James said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    Just saw Macdog’s comment re Dodgers — agree 100%. Sign Romo and Rollins, keep Kemp and you have a 90+ win team easily. You enter the playoff crapshoot and who knows.

    As it is, they will still very likely be strong contenders.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:38 pm

      …hard to figure next year’s favorites. White Sox? Cubs? Marlins? Dodgers? (Ahem, Giants? I like when we stay under or above or beyond the radar.)

  51. snarkk said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    I dunno about Shields.
    His delivery is slow. EZ to run on, looks like. Falls off to the left side a lot ike Timmeh. Didn’t impress me much against the Giants, and it’s not like they had a lineup that crushes people…

    • James said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:48 pm

      He’s basically another Matt Cain, albeit a couple years older. And he’s better than Santana.

      • snarkk said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:56 pm

        If you mean he’s supposed to get 6 years at $120M with an elbow full o’ chips, then fuggedaboudit…

    • James said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:50 pm

      The real reason to mistrust Shields: he’s Rohand’s cousin . . . .

      • snarkk said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:58 pm

        Keereist, James.
        I thought you were joking, then I Wiki’d up, and boom. There it is.
        Does that mean he makes 500 throws a day in the cage under the stadium?…

      • James said, on December 11, 2014 at 10:02 pm

        Ha, you completely missed one of my rare attempts at narrative on the Flap, a suspenseful encounter with their aunt at a wedding in Sonoma

      • snarkk said, on December 11, 2014 at 10:07 pm

        My bad.
        How is Auntie Rohand, anyway?
        I’m not going to ask what she does 500X a day…

      • James said, on December 11, 2014 at 10:20 pm

        She seemingly texts her favorite, the one with a book to his name, about 500 times a day . . . she declined to speak of the other after I told her I was a big Giants fan. This was in late summer 2011.

  52. James said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    Really, all ML pitchers suck except MadBum.

    • snarkk said, on December 11, 2014 at 10:00 pm

      James, you’re drinking some Calvados made at an obscure monastery in Normandy or some shit like that, aren’t you? πŸ˜‰

      • James said, on December 11, 2014 at 10:29 pm

        Close, I made a calvados vieux carre just last night.

      • snarkk said, on December 11, 2014 at 10:53 pm

        Missed it by thaaat much.
        Sounds refined.
        Hopefully the bitters were top notch and you were wearing a smoking jacket.
        I had Makers in a dirty glass with an ice cube that had slipped out of my hands onto the floor…

      • James said, on December 11, 2014 at 11:14 pm

        I used Makers instead of Rye for the bottle aged Manhattans I’m gifting the relatives with this Xmas. Of course, that’s because the rubes gave me multiple bottles of the stuff to begin with. It does make a fine Manhattan with Carpano. I think I’ll have the butler mix me one right now before I retire to my chambers for the evening.

  53. paulinasia said, on December 11, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    I’m beginning to think there won’t be any free agents coming to SF, but rather that Sabes will get it done via trades. I’m ok with that, his trades have often (certainly not always, but often) been better than his FA signings.

  54. James said, on December 11, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    I just looked up Grandal’s stats. Maybe another Gene Tenace. Pretty clever pick up by the new Paul DePodesta.

  55. sportdude said, on December 11, 2014 at 11:06 pm

    Hate the Bums, but moves were good. We tried hard to Panda 5/95. SD has Kemp at 5/70. Not bad in today’s market….Trades…LA frees up money and drastically improved their defense. Very SF like. I’m not shaking in my boots, but no one shakes at ours either. kershaw Greinke, Ryu sure promotes more shaking in boots than Mad bum, Cain, Hudson. I hope it fails spectacularly, but up the middle defense with peterson rollins kendrick grandal is very very good. They also have another $70 mil to throw at someone…

  56. Nipper said, on December 12, 2014 at 5:33 am

    The Dodgers will be good. It’s for the best. They need new unis. Tired Dodger blue….yuck..


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