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Padres Active, Giants Not as Much

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on December 19, 2014

Pretty wild stuff coming out of San Diego. Not only did they add Kemp and Myers but they’ve also added Justin Upton and Derek Norris and reportedly are about to acquire Will Middlebrooks (part of ‘Kat just died a little bit).

The Giants, on the other hand have brought back Romo and Peavy. I like both moves.

Still, time is ticking and 2015 is starting to feel like 2014 without the post season.

But maybe that’s just the gray day talking…..

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  1. dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:11 am

    Wow, Sabean is really going all in on the whole get the band back together meme. Haven’t we seen this once already? Or is it twice? I get that free agents have to want to come (or stay) here and the Giants at least tried with Sandoval and Lester but I am unimpressed with the Peavy signing. If there isn’t a trade coming I guess the plan is hope like hell and add some pieces at the trade deadline.

  2. stickman said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:12 am

    Gray day up here in the Northwoods too, Flav. Not surprised by the Peavey move. They did put out Escobar and Hembree for him and unlike the Beltran deal DID score another parade as a partial result. Sabean and the Train Bust must feel Jake has some more mileage left in the tank. I’m not crazy about Peavey as a #3 but he should be a more than adequate #4 ~ and so will Hudson. One thing the deal does do is put a bunch of pressure on both Scherzer and Shields. Giants no longer look desperate. Team does have the money.

    So its now down to LF and 3B ~ most probably a trade scenario. Something will materialize.

    Pads are striving desperately for relevancy. Impressive moves. Now THEY are the team with the big surplus of outfielders AND they have already traded within the division.

  3. paulinasia said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:16 am

    Peavy: instrumental in getting the Giants to the post-season. Nice game against Washington. He’s probably a 5- or 6-inning pitcher now, or probably should be, fairly similar to Hudson in that regard. Those 2 should be rested whenever possible during the season so they can actually perform well come the post-season. Still hoping one more good starter is coming, as it doesn’t seem to work well when the team “stands pat” after a championship, and no new addition to the rotation would smack of that. Hated his stupid Cubs fantasy before taking the mound in game 6, followed by not getting out of.. what, the 3rd inning? Ah, you take the good with the bad. Love his fiery nature. Sorry his pal Flannery is gone.

    Yeah, how about San Diego? Damn, they’ve overhauled half their starting lineup, seemingly rather positively. Dogs will look very different too, and AZ a little. Only the Rox seem to have not done much. Uh, sorry, and the Giants, yet… I heard that Sabean thought there was a new rule that World Series winners had to wait to snag free agents until after all other teams had restocked. You know, for the sake of parity, etc. And I’m absolutely fine with that. The proverbial shoes have perhaps begun to drop.

    • Chipower9 said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:56 am

      Agree with you big time on adding another starter Paul, and said as much at the end of the last thread when I posted the Peavy signing. Add Shields and then you have:
      MadBum
      Cain
      Shields
      Peavy
      Hudson/Timmy

      Not too keen on the rotation if another starter is not added, but not holding my breath…Sabes may be done re: SP.

  4. dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:23 am

    I guess this leaves Vogelsong without a spot. Thanks and good luck to that dude.

    • paulinasia said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:05 am

      Agree on all counts. Gonna miss Nicole, though….

  5. Bozo said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:46 am

    I’m curious to the roster moves the Giants will have to make for Romo and Peavy. I guess for now they could move Scutaro to the 60 day DL to free up a spot, If Sanchez hasn’t been cleared maybe they can use the 15 day concussion. I’m thinking a trade is in the works and some names on the 40-Man will be part of it.

  6. ODB said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:56 am

    Peavy signing is ok, Petit will get a lot of work when either Hudson or Peavy go down with injury. Who exactly is going to play 3rd, LF, and CF when Pagan takes his usual 3 months off. Pagan and Bogut are kindred spirits.

    • paulinasia said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:04 am

      Whoa, almost a cogent post from this idiot, up until “….go down with injury”. Yes, Petit will and should get a lot of work spelling both Hudson and Peavy. Petit is potentially very key here and may well end up part of the rotation at some point. The rest of your post is your usual troll drivel, but you know that.

  7. Chipower9 said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:59 am

    I am okay with the Peavy signing, but as mentioned at the end of the last thread, I am hoping that Sabes is still tracking on Shields.

    I also think you will see players along the lines of a David Freese and an OF along the same lines fill out LF and 3rd. (Schulman’s tweet pointed towards such a possibility for an OFer “coming off a bad year.”) Classic Sabes dumpster dive.

    • paulinasia said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:08 am

      Interesting how *Sabes dumpster diving” likely originated in negativity but has come to mean something so much more positive with 3 in 5, huh….

    • paulinasia said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:09 am

      Oops… I mixed up some punctuation there. Must be time for another visit back to the US to regain my English language skills….

    • Chipower9 said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:42 am

      Agree how the “dumpster dive” has morphed to be not such a negative, and in some cases, a positive.

  8. zumiee said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:27 am

    “possibility for an OFer “coming off a bad year.”) Classic Sabes dumpster dive.”

    Yeah, the upside has been guys coming in who are on a quest to prove they’re still legit, and are hungry to win a ring, and they’ve often rebounded, and contributed to a ring. Sabean can’t be blamed for thinking it’s a proven strategy. Low cost/high reward potential.

    • James said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:45 am

      When you roll 3 7s in a row, you’d think that maybe the next one isn’t going to turn out that way.

    • Chipower9 said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:48 am

      Sorry James, but IMO, that is a crap (pun intended) analogy. Rolling dice is pure chance, and comparing that to some of Sabean’s moves (taking a chance on a guy who had an off year, etc.) makes no sense. He has certainly been more successful in these instances than not.

      • James said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:53 am

        Chi, you sign 10 guys with Pat Burrell’s numbers and at his age, I guarantee you half of them won’t work out. Sabes has been very lucky.

      • Chipower9 said, on December 19, 2014 at 10:03 am

        It is a method that has worked for him more than it has not. My point was that comparing that method to a roll of the dice is ludicrous. I would not trade Sabean for any other GM…dumpster diving being a part of it. Hard to argue with the overall results.

      • salty said, on December 19, 2014 at 10:05 am

        And Sabes has proven that with Francouer Uggla Tejada…..

      • James said, on December 19, 2014 at 10:12 am

        Chi, nothing I post is ever ludicrous . . . unless I say it is 🙂

      • Chipower9 said, on December 19, 2014 at 11:03 am

        Wrong again boy genius. Comparing a roll of the dice to Sabean’s dumpster diving IS ludicrous. 😉

  9. salty said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:29 am

    They now have 20m to Cain, 17 to Tim, 12 each/to Hud and Peeved. Would be very surprised to see them add 18-20m for Shields. Plus, they have said Timmy will be in the rotation, so….what gives if they add Shields?

    • James said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:39 am

      That is a high cost/high risk rotation as is.

    • Chipower9 said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:53 am

      What gives if they add Shields? It makes the rotaion much more stable, forces some guys (Hudson and Timmy) to battle for a rotation spot. I agree, adding Shields probably will not happen at this point, but it would certianly make the rotation stronger. Pitching…Pitching…Pitching…Championships…

  10. Chipower9 said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:36 am

    WillieD – re: your thoughts on Blanco and Perez (last thread), not sure that Blanco would be as easy to move because of his salary, although he is somewhat controlled for another two years of arbitration.

    I agree with you and think that Perez could improve with more consistent ABs and not being jerked up-and-down between the big club and minors.

    Blanco is certainly a more known quantity, so tough to let go of a decent 4/5 OFer like that. But if he was a required piece in a trade to bring us a decent 3rd baseman or OFer, then giddy up.

    Agree re: the Dubs and Thunder game. Would be fun to see these two teams go at it full strength.

  11. salty said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:39 am

    Too many suitors chasing Shields and they said they weren’t going to wait for that to drag out.
    I think the rotation is set, and they will add on a stud at the deadline if warranted.
    Expect same with 3b. Get.something decent now and look to add a Beltre at the deadline, as Loo has suggested.

  12. Macdog said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:50 am

    If Upton thinks hitting HRs at the Phone Park is tough, wait’ll he gets a full season at Petco.

    • Chipower9 said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:53 am

      lqtm….no shit!

    • James said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:57 am

      Yep, but still a very good pick up for them. Let’s hope the numbers don’t start evening out for Upton at ATT.

  13. pawliekokonuts said, on December 19, 2014 at 10:25 am

    I can’t recall a more active offseason, in general. It is partly because owners say, “Hey, if San Fran can win it all with what they had, we can too.” So everybody fantasizes how feasible, how “easy,” it is to score a ring. It has been said, somewhere, that Sabean takes the long view. This offseason, he may be taking the wide view, namely: parity. With all these radical moves by several teams, is it not possible the Giants have to do less because all the other teams will be beating each other more often; no big dawgs?

  14. Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 10:58 am

    PK– I think that if anything, other teams have taken notice of what the Giants have done and are trying to recreate it. You don’t need to build a superstar mega team to win a WS. So instead of picking up a “Scherzer” for a billion dollars we are seeing teams try to re-tool with more of a balance across the line up……

    • Chipower9 said, on December 19, 2014 at 11:05 am

      I agree, and the two teams that show this during this off-season so far, IMO, is the Marlins and Friars.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on December 19, 2014 at 2:04 pm

        well, Marlins and Friars, yes, but the Stanton signing negates ‘balance; White Sox, too; even the Dodgers, all trying for balance; Red Sox?

  15. xoot said, on December 19, 2014 at 11:53 am

    Venable the expendable? His numbers dropped last year. Don’t know why. San Diego, in the wake of their OF acquisitions, should be shopping him, shouldn’t they? $4.25M for his last year before FA (built in incentive to bounce back). Looks interesting to me.

  16. zumiee said, on December 19, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    Teams have until 2:00 Pacific Time today to put in bids for the rights to negotiate with Korean player Jung-Ho Kang. He’s an infielder that put up great numbers in Korea, in band box ballparks. He could play thirdbase. Will the Giants put in a bid? They’ve “shown interest” in him, whatever that means.

    • Bozo said, on December 19, 2014 at 12:19 pm

      “He’s been heavily scouted and evaluated and considered,” Evans said. “Probably not on the top of our list. … He was extremely successful in Korea, but you have to see how that will translate to the major league level. Again, probably not our top priority.”

      • Chipower9 said, on December 19, 2014 at 1:42 pm

        I have heard from many that the Korean league baseball equates to AA here.

  17. zumiee said, on December 19, 2014 at 12:16 pm

    This guy’s still out there, available at a bargain-basement price:

    • James said, on December 19, 2014 at 1:23 pm

      It would certainly add intrigue, and he’ll be no worse at the plate than Gregor, maybe better. We know Gregor won’t be better than Gregor.

  18. twinfan1 said, on December 19, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    Happy Holidays to all. My favorite tune, posted it before. We’re all lucky to be on the right side of the grass. Baseball? A pleasant diversion.
    3 for 5 – they’re batting .600.

    • Chipower9 said, on December 19, 2014 at 1:44 pm

      Merry Christmas to you and Merna, Michael. Wishing you a pleasant holiday season, and a peaceful, healthy, and happy 2015.

      • twinfan1 said, on December 19, 2014 at 3:54 pm

        Thank you.
        That is the best party we’ll never attend. McDowell is an apparition, having left this mortal coil. The revelers are celebrating his life, not mourning his death. That is my fictional take on the scene.

  19. gianthead said, on December 19, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    What were the level of prospects the Pads gave up for Upton, I think the Giants could have done better.

  20. zumiee said, on December 19, 2014 at 2:12 pm

    I’m a little surprised that the Braves went into that much of rebuild mode. They’re really turning a page and moving on. The Braves, the A’s, and the Dodgers all really shook up their rosters, and jettisoned some of their popular players, trying to find some of that crapshoot witchcraft. 🙂

  21. Alleykat said, on December 19, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    So the Padres give up an aging 34 year old catcher, traded 3 times in the last year for Will Middlebrooks?
    Thanks Sabes for be non pro-active!

  22. salty said, on December 19, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    Well, I’m wrong again. Giants still in on both Scherzer and Shields, per Evans.

    http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2014/12/19/7422737/giants-rumors-jake-peavy-max-scherzer-james-shields

    Interesting. Very interesting.

    Yankees get Eovaldi, who kinda sucks but is still young. Looks like they are truly out on Scherzer. Your move Scotty.

    • Alleykat said, on December 19, 2014 at 3:22 pm

      Yeah just like their supposedly in serious talks with the Fish for McGahee, but as usual talk is cheap.
      Guess their balking about Eli Whiteside being our best offer.

      • salty said, on December 19, 2014 at 3:37 pm

        Kat, McGahee looks like more than just talk.

  23. Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    Someone on KNBR said they think the Padres are making all these moves just to increase the likelihood that they don’t get no hit by Lincecum in 2015.
    lqtm

  24. stickman said, on December 19, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    Word on the street is warming up on the third base situation. Talking with the Braves on Chris Johnson. Names popping up from SF are Strickland and Duffy. IMO BOTH for Johnson would be overpay. One of them, coupled with a middling pitching prospect or two seems about right. Also scuttlebutt vs the Marlins on Casey McGeehee. No power there but a decent BA, fair amount of doubles and maybe an okay OBP. Seems like Asdrubber Cabrera is also still in the discussion ~ that would be IF he would play third. Crawford to Panik is too sweet a DP combo to break up.

    • Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 3:59 pm

      It would be beyond absurd to trade either of those guys for Johnson.

  25. Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    Giants about to get Casey McGhee which should make Loo happy. Actually it should make us all happy if the alternative is Chris Johnson who I would be seriously bummed if we picked up

  26. Hargesheimer said, on December 19, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    Reassuring to hear that Sabean will not give up Strickland for McGehee. Somebody’s gotta throw BP.

  27. DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    When Strickland is pitching at ATT, Kabul, Afghanistan is safer than McCovey Cove…

    • Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 4:16 pm

      you guys are being too hard on him. He wasn’t even supposed to pitch in the post season. He got a Sept call up just to get a taste then they were going to shut him down. He was so dominant they had to put him on the PS roster.
      I love him, I think he’s going to be great going forward with some experience and work with Raggs……

      • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 4:29 pm

        Has he ever started in the minors?

      • xoot said, on December 19, 2014 at 4:59 pm

        Strickland spent 7 years in the minors with TJ surgery in the middle. But look at what happened to his pitching stats after the Giants organization claimed him in 2013. WHIP went from around 1.5 to less than half that. wtf? Strange story.

  28. dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 19, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    Seeing reports of the deal done but not what SF sent to Miami.

  29. twinfan1 said, on December 19, 2014 at 4:38 pm

    Strickland is still a viable possibility for the bullpen in 2015. And hey, his postseason troubles made re-signing Romo a must..

  30. stickman said, on December 19, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    Casey Mcgeehee is the one. Both Bob Nightengale and Jon Hayman report that the trade has been made. From the Giants the Marlins will receive as yet unnamed minor league pitching prospects. So no need to fret over Johnson. With Casey and Duffy that infield is taking on a wearing of the green kinda tint.

    • Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:04 pm

      I’d like to point out that I reported it at 3:59pm. lqtm

      • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:15 pm

        Nice job, Flav. I wanted McGeeheehee back when Panda lost his first hamate I think. Not quite as enthused now because I got myself all wound up about Beltre. Still like the move though. Not overjoyed about Peavy either. Think they overpaid and I didn’t care for his ill-timed off to Chicago crack.

        Anyway, here’s some real obscure Splash trivia. Who was the poster who broke the news of Bumgarner’s surprise call-up from the minors. He had the story before any media outlet reported it.
        Hint: He rarely posted and hasn’t been heard from in years.
        Anyone who knows this is insane but I’ll be amazed. I do know the answer. I’ll send a prize to the first guy who gets it. (like anyone will)

      • twinfan1 said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:26 pm

        Well, I predicted it when many ( including some in the front office ) were wanting Eric Hacker. But I’ll guess it was… Yogi.

      • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:32 pm

        Good try, Twin but incorrect. I don’t think this guy made more than a dozen posts in his “career”.
        I just never forgot it. We were all amazed at the time. He had some sort of inside info I think.
        Hint: His blogging name ended in a 2 digit number…

      • Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:36 pm

        westbywest

      • Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:37 pm

        or johnTamargo

      • Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:43 pm

        he might have been westbywest55. That’s a reach. None of those old threads are viewable anymore. But I’m taking a shot for the *prize* and banking on my highIQ multiplied by my superior memory. lol

      • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:46 pm

        So many guys have come and gone. You’re thinking of west33, Flav, but it wasn’t him, either.
        Hint: The 2 digits were 25, but no reference to Bonds in his name. I think 25 was his age.
        It probably won’t even ring a bell when I tell you. It’s that obscure.

      • Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:51 pm

        well, I’m out of guesses. Let’s here the answer (as well as the offered prize). make it good.

      • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:57 pm

        Should I give it a little more time? The prize could be anything. I would want it to suit the winner – even though there won’t be a winner. Unless someone can pull off a googling miracle…

      • Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 6:18 pm

        well, you can’t google it (i don’t think). All those threads are dead.
        But leave it open till tomorrow. My guess is that if anyone gets it it’ll be SanDawg but I haven’t seen him around the blog lately.

      • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 6:30 pm

        I googled his blog name. Nothing comes up.
        One last hint: His 2 syllable blog name appeared to be an abbreviation for the state he was from combined with his first name + the number 25. I don’t think you’ll even remember it when I tell you. But SanDawg is a possibility…

  31. Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    still love this chick. I follow her on twitter, she’s starting to make a name for herself in the music industry.

    • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:28 pm

      Looks like she’s up for my twisted fantasy….

      • Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:35 pm

        oh, she’s up for it all right. This is your time, baby!

      • twinfan1 said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:11 pm

        Aren’t you the one who needs to be *up* for it, Loo?

  32. snarkk said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    Basically, I have no clue about Mcgeehee. Meaning the guy must be pretty average. HIs stats show he’s not much other than that. Or, as 3rd basemen go, he’s below average, I suspect, at the plate. But, that’s OK, if, IF they get a decent LFer. Can’t lose Panda’s bat and not make up for it somewhere with either one or a combo of guys. As far as making moves goes, sure, the Pads and Doghairs have made a lot. Some will hit, some won’t. Thing is, if you don’t make moves, none of ’em will hit. Peavy and Romo don’t thin my blood too much…

  33. stickman said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    For those who haven’t checked yet McGehee is a 31 Y.O. Santa Cruz native and did his college time at Fresno State. The right-handed 3b has a stocky/athletic build at a listed 6’1″ and 220 lbs. Named NL Comeback Player of the Year in the Post-Season, McGehee is not your prototypical corner infield power bat, knocking out only 4 taters in this past season.

    Offensively, what does stand out is his .355 OBP, his 29 doubles and his 76 RBIs. With a .287 BA, one triple and 56 runs scored, Casey probably projects to batting 7th or even 8th in the Giants lineup. Other primary batting stats include a nice 177 hits (heavy on the singles); 67 walks to a slightly uncomfortable 102 K’s; a .357 SP and an OPS of .712.

    • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:19 pm

      How’s his defense? I’m sure he weighs much more than that 220, but if Pablo can bend over, I’m sure he can, too…

  34. stickman said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    This current wordpress setup is a mess for attempted editing. You can no longer back up without being unable to return to your thread. Oh well. Snarkk noted he’s pretty average at the plate and like him, i have no idea of his skill level at the hot corner. Again, i agree that because of his lack of a power bat, it seems more than likely is that the Giants LFer move will be for a growing long in the tooth slugger ~ perhaps someone like Marlon Byrd.

    My preference would be for Casey to bat in the 8-hole, bumping Crawford up to 7th, where his somewhat more potent bat would be a better fit. So we lose the stinger at the tail but if McGehee can maintain that very nice .355 OBP or even something quite close to that we could see our pitchers getting much extra bunting practice come S.T.

  35. Alleykat said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    Well I’m super happy they pulled the trigger on McGahee, not only they get a dude with power potential at the hot corner, he has a decent glove ranking 17th in baseball for 3rd.
    Not sure what prospect/s were giving up probably pitching? But we needed to act fast and we got some quality!!

    • twinfan1 said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:47 pm

      It’s Panik and Crick, Kat.

    • Hargesheimer said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:33 pm

      17th would put him in the bottom half of third basemen, then.

  36. pawliekokonuts said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    Loo, as for your 5:15pm query, je ne sais pas; HOWEVER, I remember the reference at the Splash. I am pretty sure it is how I came to this blog. Lincecum’s back hurt him and MadBum got called up; the Splash cited this blog. That’s how I remember it.

  37. Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    Not that they’re a good gauge of anything, but the Marlin fans are universally against this trade. And they don’t even know what they’re getting yet. Tomorrow I might post some of the fans comments in the new thread.

  38. DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    Happy 79th to Tony Taylor, a childhood favorite of mine. In 1961, he went 100 for 400, a perfect .250.
    I wonder if anyone else ever did that? Or if anyone ever went 200 for 600? Doubt it.
    I learned math from baseball cards.

    • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 6:13 pm

      Speaking of baseball cards:

      http://nypost.com/2014/12/19/collecting-baseball-cards-was-the-best-until-mom-threw-em-out/

      • willedav said, on December 19, 2014 at 6:53 pm

        oh yeah, we lost all our old gear too. Even my sister used to play with us in back yard or front and I have no idea whatever happened to all our gloves bats and balls…tho I can guess.
        “Chris Cannizzaro”…I do remember getting a Danny Napoleon Mets card after he had a GWRBI for Stengel’s boys, looking on the back and seeing he was hitting .145.
        Also remember being shocked to see card of Tony LaRussa in A’s bright green and gold uni, truly odd for its day.

    • Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 6:14 pm

      me too. And this is such a layered, fantastic post on so many levels. It’s brilliant in the most simplistic of ways. It’s going into the POTD-best-of

  39. twinfan1 said, on December 19, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    That was some great stuff, Craig. I think I’ll curl up and read some more later. BTW, I apologize once again for my Pan Fried Chicken recipe error. I hope no one used 2 cups of pepper…

  40. wilcojoe said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    Loo’s trivia question is killing me. I remember vividly the day he posted about Bum’s callup. For some reason, I thought it was sandawg. Sandawg must have started posting around the same time. I don’t know why he comes to mind….Two syllable name ending in 25? For some reason I want to say he went to school in SoCal and a buddy of his had some affiliation with the team.

    • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:11 pm

      You are very much on the right track, WJ…

    • Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:51 pm

      bells are ringing in my head and this is so fucking irritating that I can’t get this….

  41. paulinasia said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    Tony Taylor, wow, Loo, I’d forgotten about him, he was also one of my favs when I was a kid. Thanks for the link to that baseball card story, I’m going to forward that to my Mom; we still joke about what happened to my 3 or shoeboxes of cards. She swears that after I went away to university and my parents subsequently moved to a smaller house, she gave the cards to my two young cousins, who were sons of a Lutheran minister (that is, not rich) and both managed to get loan-free education at U. of VA. Hmmmm…. I actually had a Babe Ruth card. Ouch.

  42. paulinasia said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:08 pm

    Wasn’t there a NYbill25 or something like that? Or maybe I’m thinking of a Mr. Bill who used to post there.

  43. twinfan1 said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    Kendry Flores and Luis Castillo are coming to Miami from the Giants in the deal,

    http://tinyurl.com/l5x6rkn

    • wilcojoe said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:25 pm

      Love this one tweet. “finally another Luis Castillo in the Marlins organization.”

  44. SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    Great trivia question. It wasn’t me and I’m kicking myself that I don’t know it cuz we even reset who it was a couple of years ago and I still can’t fucking remember. I do remember when he posted the news he didn’t want to come out and say it so he said something like “I feel like a BUM for telling you this”

    Stickman?

    Swickman?

    Are they the same guy?

    Billy?

    • stickman said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:36 pm

      Moi?

      • SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:39 pm

        Am I wrong, or didn’t there used to also be a guy who went by Swickman?

  45. stickman said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    Neither Flores nor Castillo have been exactly household names even among those who follow Giants minor leaguers in some depth. Both have been in the lower end of the pipeline so its all to the good for now. Seems once the Fish got the Devil Wears Prada they looked at McGehee’s upcoming arbitration figures (below $5M/year) and opened up to the first returns they could get.

    Nice catch for minor bait.

    • twinfan1 said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:04 pm

      Flores was rated our 4th best prospect by Baseball Prospectus at the beginning of the year. Throws strikes, has hit 95 with his heater. Considered a back of the rotation starter.

  46. sandog said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    Just read the clues. Did Pawlie get it right with NYBill25? That handle rings a faint bell.

    • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:43 pm

      Pawlie is incorrect. Wilco Joe is much closer…

      • SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:44 pm

        Give us some more time, my man. I’m digging out the atlas right now…

      • Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:52 pm

        the Flap-las.
        love it

      • SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:59 pm

        The Flap-las is a 2003 Rand McNally issue and it has been on many a road trip. The cover is held on with duct tape. It came with a $5 McDonald’s gift certificate and it still has the sticker on the cover that advertises the inclusion of said gift certificate to the Golden Arches. Ex #2 and I excitedly bought the damn atlas together BECAUSE of the gift certificate. Shortly after the purchase we got in some kind of fight and THAT BITCH tore out the gift certificate and spent it all on herself! Then she relished telling me she had done so as if she was telling me she had just fucked my brother. We laughed about it later, but at the time I was fucking pissed.
        On some of my posts I stretch the truth a bit to make a good story, but every character of this story is the absolute truth. Pictures to follow.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:25 pm

        SanDawg, that’ll make some movie, and it won’t be pg-13

  47. SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    Clarification Question for Loo: Do you consider NYBill to be a 3 syllable name or two?

    • Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:53 pm

      it’s not him. WJ is on it with that Socal thing…

      • Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:55 pm

        he went to college down there, USC or UCLA

      • Flavor said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:56 pm

        UCLA

      • SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:05 pm

        I know that Flav. I’m just trying to get inside Loo’s mind and fully understand the clue. You know how in the Lego Movie they go inside Emmitt’s brain and it is a vast wasteland? Loo’s mind is the exact opposite. Its like the inside of a Swiss watch and I’m trying to tiptoe my way through there like Sherlock Fucking Holmes.

    • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:57 pm

      NY Bill would be 3 syllables, Dawg.

  48. pawliekokonuts said, on December 19, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    it is how I got here, and dang we have done this before; beats me; gnight….

    • SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:07 pm

      Fuck that Pawlie. NOBODY SLEEPS UNTIL THE TRIVIA QUESTION IS ANSWERED! Now go make yourself a cocktail like I just did.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:09 pm

        if we were smart we would find this easily in the archives or Splash archives via search; baseball-reference.com will supply the date; don’t tempt me

      • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:11 pm

        Try it, Pawlie…

      • SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:12 pm

        Already been mentioned. The archives are dead Pawlie. The files have been shredded. It is the rare “ungoogle-able” trivia question, which makes it a one-in-a-million beautiful thing, like the Silver Swan of Vivaldi.

  49. James said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    Cal_stim25

    • pawliekokonuts said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:15 pm

      yep, that rings true, perfectly true; yup; how’d you do that? just good memory?

      • James said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:18 pm

        *25 AND Bumgarner AND “call up” AND splash site:oneflapdown77.com

    • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:19 pm

      WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  50. SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    If we get real desperate, and we’re not there yet—not even close, I motion that Loo changes the format of the question from fill-in-the-blank to multiple choice, with 5 or 6 choices.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:16 pm

      I am sure Chimes be right.

    • wilcojoe said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:20 pm

      Fill in the blank would be too easy. We need some more clues Loo.

      • wilcojoe said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:21 pm

        I mean multiple choice would be too easy.

  51. pawliekokonuts said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    Here’s an irony that NO ONE mentioned after Gm 7 of WS: look who lost the game when Bumgarner debuted: the man who got the the Gm 7 win, Affeldt: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN200909080.shtml

    • pawliekokonuts said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:24 pm

      ying meets yang

  52. James said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    I am surprised that Cal_Stim25 is remembered for his insider connection. I recall him as an arrogant frat boy who posted about going to UC Davis to get fucked up on picnic day.

  53. wilcojoe said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    James the winner of the internet search. If I ever make it on “who wants to be a millionaire” (is that show still on the air?), James will be my phone a friend…Nicely done!

  54. SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    Leave it to the IT guy to penetrate the firewall and track down the answer online.
    Nicely played, James.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:27 pm

      well done; ain’t no nothing that’s secret; take that SONY hackers

  55. Alleykat said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    Hey Loo,
    I’m all in with all trivia with you buddy from the 60’s to the present,so bring it on,from get on from Gates Brown to Cookie Rojas etc..

  56. pawliekokonuts said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    notice how MagnusFlavoris was a oy-vey-voyeur on this; betcha he remembered all along

    • pawliekokonuts said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:34 pm

      …my error, just saw Magnus’s 7:51

  57. wilcojoe said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    Sandawg was the closest. He was thinking “stickman” or “swickman”

    • SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:33 pm

      In my defense, I was late to the party and hadn’t read all the clues yet.

    • wilcojoe said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:36 pm

      Which is pretty impressive considering our friend from the north stickman/stixwix is a bit of a red herring.

  58. DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    I must say, I’m impressed.
    James will be rewarded.

  59. DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    Can the actual post be found?

    • SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:34 pm

      I got pretty close and found some CalStim posts. I quit after seeing his screen name.

    • James said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:54 pm

      If it was on The Splash, that could be a challenge. A quick look at https://archive.org/web/ didn’t yield much.

      You can see all of Cal_Stim25’s posts on oneflapdown77 this way:

      http://tinyurl.com/ocwpob6

  60. paulinasia said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    Well, now we know what *stim*ulates Flappers when we get bored of dissecting off-season moves: trivia…. or is it minutia?

    • pawliekokonuts said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:36 pm

      you made me look it up; I thought it had to be minutiae, but not so

  61. SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    Before Stickman, there was a Swikman or Swickman, was there not? I want to say he also lived in San Diego and told a story about taking David Wells deep during a softball game in OB.

  62. SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    FUCK. I can’t find the actual post and I want to see the pun he used to give away that is was Bumgarner. James, can you help us out? FYI, I did just stumble across a Swickman post, so I know I’m not going crazy. Whether or not he took David Wells deep in a softball game, I have no idea. Other blasts from the past on there were PickledGringo and Decap.

  63. wilcojoe said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    If we want to go way back for flap nostalgia, does anyone remember the time Soph posted about her orgasmic secretions? I think that was the first and last time she/he posted over here.

    • SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:48 pm

      I forgot Soph had ever made an appearance on The Flap. Orgasmic secretions you say? Boy, Soph really did stir up some shit on The Splash though.

  64. paulinasia said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    I still remember a guy from the Splash before it was called the Splash, back during the first years at China Basin, named The Captain. He lived in NY and was a cranky old bastard, always calling other posters undiapered monkeys.

  65. Alleykat said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    You know what I’m getting pretty hammered right now, and I’m sure I missed what the hell Loo’s trivia ? Was about, but WTF we bagged a 3rd basemen,for basically a bag of dogshit in our minor league system, so Merry Christmas Flappers!!!

  66. James said, on December 19, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    I miss Old Seal Fan. Or rather, I miss TF tormenting OSF.

    • SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:02 pm

      Yeah, I just ran across some Old Seal Fan stuff.
      James–can you find the actual initial Bumgarner breaking story post? I’ve been trying for 20 ,minutes and I can’t. Does it go back to the old version of the Flap? The start happened in 2009—right?

    • wilcojoe said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:02 pm

      Ha, yeah “Clubber” was the nickname Twin gave him. When the Flap comments would continue onto a second page, he would still post on page 1 all by his lonesome. I don’t think he every figured out there were multiple pages on busy days. He’s probably still talking to himself on the old blog.

    • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:06 pm

      James, I need some clues to help me locate the right prize for you.

      • SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:12 pm

        I can tell you from experience that top-shelf bourbon puts a smile on James face.
        A Von Joshua card might also do the trick.

      • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:15 pm

        Thanks, Dawg. Keep ’em coming…

      • DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:18 pm

        My problem is reaching the top shelf.

  67. James said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    It looks like the Splash does have an archive:

    http://blog.sfgate.com/giants/2009/01/

  68. DJLoo said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    Big Flavor and I were huge fans of a nice guy named Midwest Ed.
    He always “signed” his posts at the end of them – like he had written a letter.

  69. SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    Twin to Cal-Stim on 9/8/10:

    “That was a famous Kissinger quote, CalFuck, so don’t get all butt hurt. You know, you are posting like an infamous Web Avenger these days. You just post your own shit and if I’m not talking to you: do not talk to me. Got that?”

    Twin was a handful back in the day…

  70. James said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    BF nuked the original flap, right? He switched over to WordPress at some point.

    • SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:30 pm

      So the files WERE shredded after all? What was the old platform? Blogger.com?

      • James said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:41 pm

        oneflapdown77.blogspot.com was the domain

  71. paulinasia said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:31 pm

    What ever happened to that Scott McClain bat that was going to end up somewhere unspeakable…. 🙂

    • SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:34 pm

      I think it was sent to the Astros as part of the Jeff Keppenger trade

  72. James said, on December 19, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    Loo, how about a cocktail here when I finally make it to Citi Field:

    http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/nym/ticketing/citi_field_clubs.jsp?loc=acela

  73. James said, on December 19, 2014 at 10:02 pm

    San Dawg, not looking good. Not since the library of Alexandria burned . . . .

  74. paulinasia said, on December 19, 2014 at 10:02 pm

    Not exactly a ringing endorsement of McGehee from CBS sports:
    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24903203/if-giants-land-casey-mcgehee-then-theres-good-news-and-bad
    But, what do they know. I think he’ll be fine. If the team lands a LFer who’s better than Gregor. But, what do I know.

  75. SanDawg said, on December 19, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    Yeah, that kind of throws cold water on the warm feeling I was having about bring the Soquel High boy back to the bay area. But at least an upgrade over what we had in-house.

  76. James said, on December 19, 2014 at 10:41 pm

    How many competent major league hitters weighing in at 220 lbs have ever hit as few as 4 HRs with nearly 700 PAs in a season? That seems really, really hard to do. I predict he will hit at least 10 HRs for SF. He probably won’t be much, but he *will* hit double figures in HRs — book it!

  77. Raymond said, on December 19, 2014 at 11:09 pm

    Flav, thoughts on McGehee move? I’m glad it wasn’t for Strickland and Duffy as first reported…I hope his D. is ok.


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