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Looking Out the Window, Waiting For Spring

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on January 28, 2015

Absolutely zero baseball news to kick around. Pitchers and catchers report on Feb 18th. That’s 20 days, 14 hours, 15 minutes and 3 seconds, as soon as I hit the “publish button”….

Anniversary of the space shuttle exploding. Where were YOU?

I was at school in the library. We were huddled around a shitty tv watching it live. Probably a good event to miss in HD.

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  1. unca_chuck said, on January 28, 2015 at 7:21 am

    I was sitting in a bar in snowmass, colo getting a cup of coffee on my way up the mountain to go to work, watching the whole thing.

    What’s crazy is NASA determined that at least one astronaut survived the initial blast as some switches were disengaged on the way down. Yikes.

    • Flavor said, on January 28, 2015 at 7:24 am

      Shit, really? That’s wild I didn’t know that

    • ewisco said, on January 28, 2015 at 8:14 am

      there’s audio of the pilots working the problem as they went down so there was more than one. they’ve never released the audio, I guess it gets a little traumatic and some of the families resisted. I was on my way to work going north on 101 at the 280 junction. people actually pulled off the road to listen. I was listening to KOME and I thought the DJ’s were doing a sick joke at first. When I got to work (Lockheed space systems co) there was a lot of shock. my department had a high speed video unit that got involved in analyzing the video. in a matter of hours though, the first sick joke came through: What’s NASA stand for? Need another seven astronauts”. it was funny but a little too soon.

      • unca_chuck said, on January 28, 2015 at 10:33 am

        Agh, didn’t know there was audio of them working it.

        Shit, the Apollo missions could be aborted and the command module separated from the rest of the rocket by pushing a button.

        The details are fuzzy but they didn’t have that on the shuttle?

      • ewisco said, on January 28, 2015 at 10:57 am

        no escape. they came up with this kludgy thing afterword but I don’t think it would have worked unless they were in a controlled glide. there were supposed to open the hatch, stick this long pole out, clip onto the pole and jump. the pole would guide them past the wings. my understanding of the tape is that one of the pilots working the problem was trying a, then b etc. right at the end he says shit or maybe fuck. my dad was AF and he heard lots of these post accident tapes and they were all pretty much the same: try a, try b and then at the end shit or fuck.

      • unca_chuck said, on January 28, 2015 at 12:22 pm

        Yeah, my dad was an AF pilot as well. Funny story, he was on the JAL flight that landed in the mud short of the SFO runway in 1968. A la Sully there were no injuries. When they asked he pilot what happened, he (Murakami, iirc) said “I fucked up.”

        It was forever known in pilot circles as the Murakami defense.

        Crazier still, they dragged the 707 out of the mud, fixed it and flew it back to Japan.

      • ewisco said, on January 28, 2015 at 12:49 pm

        I remember driving by that on 101. as a kid it was very amusing. When Pan Am came in to SFO with the first 747, my dad got us on a tour. coolest thing ever. I swore I would ride on one and hang out in the bar on top with the circular stair case. I eventually did but they’d converted it to seating of course.

  2. sfsarge said, on January 28, 2015 at 7:40 am

    I was in 3rd grade and the class next to ours was watching it live. Then screaming and crying.

  3. willedav said, on January 28, 2015 at 7:52 am

    Yesterday had couple neat anniversarys:
    1991 was day NY Giants won SB 20-19 when Buffalo kicker Scott Norwood missed the FG. Immortalized in that funny ass movie “Buffalo 66.”
    1973 UCLA b-ball sets record with 61st consecutive W vs. F-ing Irish, led by big Redhead himself with a triple double 16 pts. 15 boards 10 blocks (in 40 minutes). Broke Bill Russell/KC Jones USF record set in 50s.
    Digger Phelps and Notre Dame with Austin Carr got revenge and snapped the streak at 80 something.

    Speaking of movies, I think I’ll spend the afternoon watching “Most Violent Year” this Sunday…

  4. dirtnrocksnomo said, on January 28, 2015 at 8:02 am

    I was in school too. I remember Reagan coming on the intercom and announcing the tragedy. Doesn’t seem that long ago.

    I haven’t read the end of the last thread but is anyone else happy that Crawford avoided arbitration? I am thinking the Giants might try to extend him some sort of 3 year deal in spring training.

  5. wilcojoe said, on January 28, 2015 at 8:06 am

    I was in second or third grade, not sure which, at Liberty Corner Elementary in Liberty Corner New Jersey. Like Sarge, we weren’t watching it, but other classes were. I think they let us go home early, but I can’t recall for sure. Now I live about five miles from NASA Houston and my neighborhood is full of mostly ex NASA employees. Fortunately most have found work, so the layoffs didn’t hurt as badly as most would suspect. I guess When your as skilled as those guys are, you will always be employable somewhere.

  6. wilcojoe said, on January 28, 2015 at 8:38 am

    I wish I still followed the Warriors like I did when I was a kid. I know I am missing out on a helluva season. I was in middle and high school during the RUN T.M.C days. We split a season ticket package with a guy from my dad’s work for a couple of years. I still remember watching guys like Terry Teagle, Rod Higgins, Sarunas Marcillunas (sic), and of course Tom Tolbert. It seemed like we were always a big man away from greatness. We were stuck with guys like Uwe Blap and Jim Petersen…But man, those were some great memories. Manute Bol getting the ball in the perimeter, the crowd shouting “Manuuuute” as he would drain a three. Not to mention that the competition included guys like Jordan, Bird and Magic…We had pretty decent seats, lower level about 25 rows up from the baseline. Seats were not that expensive back then. I can’t imagine what those tickets would cost today. One time, we snuck down to seats about five rows behind the bench, right before tip off. That didn’t last long, as we didn’t realize we were warming the seats for Ronnie Lott. He was very polite in giving us the heave ho.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on January 28, 2015 at 8:44 am

      Nice tribute to Bol here

      http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/manute-bol-bobblehead-night-warriors-fans-of-a-certain-age-look-back/

      • willedav said, on January 28, 2015 at 8:57 am

        Thx man, way cool. I love Tolbert.
        I remember the pool shot from SI. It was spread across 2 pages…looked like something out of those sea monster black and white movies.

    • willedav said, on January 28, 2015 at 8:50 am

      Loved TT (Teagle). I think Manute bobblehead was last night, they had one on camera.
      Like everything else, it’s way more expensive ($50 for anything near decent) and way way louder with music and nut job PA guy. Too bad, because product on the floor is at all time high. Unc was there for LeBron(less) game maybe he can chime in.
      Tolbert does home games on radio, and he’s great. He and the other guy, Roye are really funny together and much more knowledgeable than the TV guy Fitzgerald whom Barnett is forced to work with.
      And of course they also have gratuitous TV sideline dish Roz Gold-Onwude from Stanford all glammed up and totally vacuous in the Amy G mode.

      • snarkk said, on January 28, 2015 at 9:52 pm

        Vacuous?
        If that means pretty hot, I agree…

  7. zumiee said, on January 28, 2015 at 9:15 am

    I went to a Warriors game about 13 years ago; we sat about 15 rows or so from the sideline on the lower level, the tickets were $98 each. I have no idea what those seats would cost now. When you’re at an NBA game, you really need to be on the lower level; the upper level just seems so far away, and is such a different experience.
    On the lower level, those seats behind the basket are pretty cool. You try to mess with the opponent’s concentration when they’re shooting free throws. It hardly ever works, but it’s fun. At a King’s game I was at, before the game, they passed out balloons to us to wave around during the opponent’s free throws.

  8. zumiee said, on January 28, 2015 at 9:27 am

    I was a college student, working a part-time job at Sears, doing various maintenance chores around the store, when the Shuttle exploded. One of my co-workers rushed over to me and told me about it. We rushed over to the TV section of the store, and the explosion replay was now playing on dozens of TVs and people were gathering around.
    I remember feeling a little guilty that I hadn’t even realized that a Shuttle was being launched that day. It was sad how much the American public had lost interest in the space program. Admittedly, the Shuttle program wasn’t the most thrilling space program ever. The explosion reminded everyone, obviously, how dangerous those missions are.
    The Shuttle missions had been mocked pretty severely and humorously on The Simpsons, when Homer became an astronaut somehow. I’m sure there were lots of spin-off technological advances that came from the Shuttle program, though. There always are with NASA, and it’s an under-appreciated aspect of NASA.
    People will complain about “what good did it do to go to the moon?” and they’ll post that on the internet, using high-speed digital technology, and not realize the irony of that.

  9. zumiee said, on January 28, 2015 at 9:32 am

    Quasi-interesting factoid of the day:
    Ty Cobb never won a World Series. His Tigers team played in three straight, but lost all three.

    • zumiee said, on January 28, 2015 at 9:35 am

      Cobb was kind of a dud in the Series. The lifetime .366 hitter hit .262 overall in his Series appearances.

  10. xoot said, on January 28, 2015 at 9:54 am

    I was off work and watching the event live. Why I can’t recall–I wasn’t much excited by the space shuttle program overall. I clearly remember one of the national reporters on tv relaying an initial message from the White House in which Reagan’s writers pretty much said what you’d expect early on, but then added something like: “Unfortunately transportation accidents are a fact of life.” I never heard that line repeated and, for reasons that aren’t important here, I spent some time a few years back searching the web for it. It doesn’t appear to be recorded anywhere. I thought it was a startling admission.

  11. blade3colorado said, on January 28, 2015 at 10:30 am

    “The explosion reminded everyone, obviously, how dangerous those missions are.”

    Maybe I’m superstitious, because I’m certainly not religious – but I still silently say the Lords Prayer and the Serenity Prayer when I take off and land in a commercial airline jet. I still don’t understand how something that big gets off the ground without rockets.

  12. blade3colorado said, on January 28, 2015 at 10:38 am

    The new idiot Commish is already getting plenty of blowback on his defensive shift comments. Love what Kruk and Kuip said . . . http://www.csnbayarea.com/giants/krukow-shift-very-cool-manfred-made-big-mistake

  13. Bozo said, on January 28, 2015 at 11:07 am

    I don’t really remember where I was, is that fucked up or what? 1986? I guess I was at work not paying attention or waking up on a carpet I didn’t recognize.

  14. pawliekokonuts said, on January 28, 2015 at 11:31 am

    at a business lunch in Manhattan; how’s the fever? did you go to Lewis & Clark?

    • Flavor said, on January 28, 2015 at 12:41 pm

      I did undergrad at LC. How did you know?

      • pawliekokonuts said, on January 28, 2015 at 4:31 pm

        Thought you mentioned it once. It came up because I saw someone went there, a woman, someone I saw online, and now for the life of me I can’t remember where I saw it. (It was a legit site; not naughty.)

      • Flavor said, on January 28, 2015 at 4:41 pm

        was she in her early 40’s? Cause if so, I probably banged her. 🙂

      • pawliekokonuts said, on January 28, 2015 at 4:46 pm

        it’s killing me that I can’t remember…a magazine article? something online? an ad? IDK, but I know I said to myself, hey, didn’t Magnus go there? cuz otherwise, I’d have never heard of it.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on January 28, 2015 at 4:52 pm

        Whew. Not losing my mind! I went to a free piano concert at lunchtime. By myself. Civic Morning Musicals. They’ve been having these since 1890. Free! The program said the first pianist (whom I missed; was late) received bachelor’s in psych. AND music from LC. Bingo. These kids are talented!

      • Flavor said, on January 28, 2015 at 5:02 pm

        I banged half the psych department but no one from the music dept so what odds does that turn out to be?

  15. unca_chuck said, on January 28, 2015 at 12:26 pm

    Shit, these where were you comments make me feel old . . .

  16. zumiee said, on January 28, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    Not baseball related; this is a cool and fascinating collection of acoustic Beatle demos from ’68. Even includes a few songs that never made it onto regular recordings.

    • James said, on January 28, 2015 at 5:32 pm

      Someone bestowed this bootleg on me about 10-15 years ago. I think it’s the only thing I’ve played by the Beatles over that time.

    • James said, on January 28, 2015 at 6:07 pm

      In looking at the collection, it seems like I was also gifted with the Glyn Johns “Get Back” bootlegs. I probably played those at least once in the same time frame 🙂

  17. pawliekokonuts said, on January 28, 2015 at 4:33 pm

    I forgot to mention that Staci slaughter of the giants let me try on her 2012 ring. She said the next one will be gaudier yet. I told her I liked the 2010 design better. I think she agreed. As if we should be choosy, right?

    • snarkk said, on January 28, 2015 at 10:29 pm

      I was hoping they’d throttle back on the gaudy. If the 2014 is an even bigger ring than the 2012, Marty Lurie will have to wear a Giants-licensed sling to hold up his wrist…

  18. paulinasia said, on January 28, 2015 at 5:13 pm

    I remember the shuttle disaster very well, as I was living and working in Boston at that time, and with Christa McAuliffe onboard (the elementary school teacher from New Hampshire), the launch had received quite a lot of attention in New England in the days leading up to it. At lunch at a big downtown restaurant when it happened; I had never seen a place like that go from noisy chatter and clatter to absolutely complete dead silence…. for what seemed like hours. Man, talk about “in shock”. Yeah, Steve, I do the same when I fly (which is a lot); I wear a little pendant around my neck (have worn it for the past dozen years), it’s the Chinese character “fu” which is good luck/good health, and I rub that little sucker at every take-off and landing. Wilco Joe, I didn’t know you were a Jersey boy. I grew up in Bridgewater, my family belonged to a church in Basking Ridge, so every Sunday as I kid, we drove through Liberty Corner … small quaint little place. Probably has changed a LOT since then, I haven’t been there in years….

    • paulinasia said, on January 28, 2015 at 5:14 pm

      Oh, Basking Ridge….. wonder if any Giants fans live there… 🙂

      • pawliekokonuts said, on January 28, 2015 at 6:59 pm

        i lived in Morristown, Dover, Randolph, Madison. Isn’t Meryl Streep from Basking Ridge? Or nearby? Isn’t there where the AT&T “pagoda” was?

    • wilcojoe said, on January 28, 2015 at 7:14 pm

      Just lived in Jersey for three years as a kid. My step-dad (who was raised in Bergen County) worked for an insurance company in Basking Ridge for a short time before we transfered back to the bay area.

      • ewisco said, on January 28, 2015 at 8:17 pm

        i’ve went to school in NYC, lived in Wyckoff and Montclair. Lower Montclair if you must know but we were only 5 houses away from Upper Montclair. those folks were living the dream.

  19. paulinasia said, on January 28, 2015 at 7:24 pm

    Pawlie, I think Meryl Streep was from Bernardsville, next town up from Basking Ridge. And yeah, that AT&T complex was f-ing huge, that was near Far Hills, and i think there was another one in Basking Ridge. I think 50% of the parents of my school friends worked for AT&T once they moved in there. No one had ever seen such huge corporate campuses until that time.

  20. DJLoo said, on January 28, 2015 at 8:01 pm

    Qantas never crashed…

  21. zumiee said, on January 28, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    Today’s Puig gif:

  22. Macdog said, on January 28, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    All you North Jerseyans are Bennies to me.

  23. sportdude said, on January 28, 2015 at 11:30 pm

    College student at Long beach state. Our professor announced it the class, then brought out a tv so we could watch the aftermath. A sad day.


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