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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on February 7, 2015

Let’s play a guessing game. Here are two tents camped out in front of AT&T last night. For those of you who aren’t out here, there’s a hellacious wind/rain storm blowing through the Bay Area right now.



And since I’ve switched back to the old editor at wordpress, it’s time for a poll. Why is it that whenever a website rolls out an “improved platform” I always end up going back to the old one because the new one sucks?

If this line is any indication of attendance today at fanfest I’m guessing parking won’t be a problem…..

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  1. Bozo said, on February 7, 2015 at 7:46 am

    I voted for a combination of the 3. Now if one of the choices had been, nutty Billy Joel fans waiting for tickets to go on sale, I would have voted for that. Or I may have picked $100 a night Airnb rentals in SF, but for now I’ll stick with my combo of the 3.

  2. willedav said, on February 7, 2015 at 8:44 am

    “better fans?” than a guy who gets up at ungodly hour even on weekends to set up new and better thread?
    I don’t think so.

    • Flavor said, on February 7, 2015 at 9:12 am

      thanks WD, I appreciate that

  3. stickman said, on February 7, 2015 at 9:40 am

    Seconding your emotion Williedav and lauding Flavor’s gracious acknowledgement.

  4. Flavor said, on February 7, 2015 at 10:15 am

    so much for no lines. The line to get into fanfest right now is running a half mile down the Embarcadero. Wild!

  5. xoot said, on February 7, 2015 at 10:58 am

    In 2011, my son was so stoked over the WS win he & friends drove 300 miles from college to sleep at the gate–first in line. Channel 2 reporters woke him up at 5 a.m. for an interview & they ran the bit on the morning news. He was pretty groggy, in more ways than one probably, in the glare of the tv lights.) When the gates finally opened, he strode proudly in & was stunned to see the place full of season ticket holders, who’d entered back by the cove. The autograph lines were already light-years long. Lou Seal offered to pose for a selfie with him. That did it. He was bummed & hasn’t been back since. Learning experience about the power of capital & property ownership, I suppose.

  6. zumiee said, on February 7, 2015 at 10:59 am

    Last night, the MLB Network had a lot of Giants grooviness on it. Wotus was a guest on one of the shows, and the pundits heaped praise on the Giants.
    Ron Darling: “The Giants are a Dynasty. With a capital “D.””

  7. zumiee said, on February 7, 2015 at 11:14 am

    Today’s Puig gif:

  8. ewisco said, on February 7, 2015 at 11:38 am

    From Ann Killion’s column that started on the front page of the Chron: “One reporter took a shot at it: “how’s the arm feel?”

    “Feels just like an arm,” Bumgarner said. “It’s the craziest thing.”

    You can just hear him drawl that out. Had to have been hilarious in person.

  9. Nipper said, on February 7, 2015 at 12:22 pm

    Those tent fans are stupid fools but heck there’s no law against stupidity.

  10. giants54 said, on February 7, 2015 at 12:37 pm

    I never understood the herd mentality. I see crowds, long lines or traffic backed up for miles and I go the opposite way. Others are like moths drawn to a flame.

  11. ewisco said, on February 7, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    there are times when i’ll walk into a store, take one look and bail. there’s NOTHING i need that bad that it can’t wait.

  12. willedav said, on February 7, 2015 at 4:00 pm

    I’ve never cared for Melo’s game nor his coach DFish, but I’d like to check out Knicks shooting guard call up from D-league that has been starting for them and playing well, Langston Galloway. Knicks guards have been very inconsistent, including Tim Shootaway Jr.
    I saw Galloway play for St. Joeseph’s Hawks where he was MVP and leading scorer of team that won the league and made the Tourney.
    St. Joe’s has another guy I bet makes it to NBA, Soph DeAndre Bembry who has great name and a great fro to match. He can run shoot and rebound, like a smaller version of Draymond Green.

    • Flavor said, on February 7, 2015 at 4:02 pm

      The Pride of Penn State, Tim Frazier, is getting the start vs Charlotte tonight. Very cool story about him

    • blade3colorado said, on February 7, 2015 at 6:22 pm

      On January 28th, Langston was a “value” pick on one of my Fan Duel teams and outplayed his value 2X, i.e., he was a major contributor to putting some money in my pocket . . . So yeah, I know Galloway.

      blade3colorado 278.90
      Russell Westbrook
      OKC @ NY
      Langston Galloway
      NY v OKC
      Kyle Korver
      ATL v BKN
      Eric Gordon
      NO v DEN
      Robert Covington
      PHI v DET
      Rudy Gay
      SAC @ TOR
      Derrick Favors
      UTA v LAC
      Patrick Patterson
      TOR v SAC
      DeAndre Jordan
      LAC @ UTA

  13. pawliekokonuts said, on February 7, 2015 at 4:14 pm

    I have increasingly come to believe SF Giants fans are as devoted and loyal and passionate as ANY fan base. ANY. In Philly. Ballet tomorrow. Too bad no game!

    • Macdog said, on February 7, 2015 at 4:44 pm

      How are the locals taking SU’s self-imposed hoops ban?

      • pawliekokonuts said, on February 7, 2015 at 5:21 pm

        not well, not well at all; I owe you a call; ever since you called me en route to finnerty’s; I was at the Hokies game.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on February 7, 2015 at 5:29 pm

        correction, at the Hokies game last week

  14. DJLoo said, on February 7, 2015 at 4:16 pm

    I don’t think you Warrior fans need to worry too much about the Knicks tonight.
    They’re not nearly as good as their record…

    • Macdog said, on February 7, 2015 at 4:47 pm

      Three former 10-day contract guys starting for the Knicks. Should be a fun night for the Finnerty’s crowd.

  15. DJLoo said, on February 7, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    What is up with those Warrior uniforms?

  16. pawliekokonuts said, on February 7, 2015 at 5:20 pm

    I was at the dentist’s with my daughter y’day and Stephen Curry was on the TV being interviewed. (TV screens at the dentist’s office; who knew?) I could not hear him, but his whole demeanor suggested, to me at least, poise, class, intelligence, courtesy, humility. He could have been talking gibberish in Babylonian, for all I knew. But that’s what I discerned. Go, Warriors!

  17. Macdog said, on February 7, 2015 at 6:56 pm

    The Warriors were almost as ugly as those unis Doo mentioned, but hey, it’s a W.

    • Macdog said, on February 7, 2015 at 6:57 pm

      Loo! aaaargh

  18. zumiee said, on February 7, 2015 at 7:31 pm

    I finished reading “The Victory Season” today. Man, what a great book. I know I pimp a lot of books here, but this one is right up there with the best of them.
    That ’46 World Series culminating with Enos Slaughter’s “Mad Dash” from first base in the bottom of the 8th of Game 7 couldn’t help but remind me of the KC Royal guy dashing around the bases in the bottom of the 9th of Game 7 last season. The thirdbase coach signaled for Slaughter to stop, but he blew right past that signal. The KC guy stopped at third, and we’ll never know for sure what would have happened if he’d kept going. He likely would have been out, but crazy stuff can happen.

    • zumiee said, on February 7, 2015 at 7:35 pm

      And, of course, we’ll never know for sure what would have happened if the runner had tried to score in the bottom of the 9th of Game 7 of the ’62 World Series. But the next batter McCovey came so close to a walk-off game-winning hit…..
      A thirdbase coach has to make a quick decision. And very few runners are going to blow past the thirdbase coach on that. The stakes are so high.
      Slaughter made it home safely, so he was a huge hero instead of a huge goat.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on February 7, 2015 at 8:49 pm

        for who knows why, my mom, 98, was fond of enos slaughter

  19. Flavor said, on February 7, 2015 at 7:35 pm

    and to add a movie critique to the mix, I watched BoxTrolls with my daughter today. That was one of the weirdest fucking movies I’ve ever seen in my life. But, entertaining. I give it 3 flaps up out of a possible 5

    • zumiee said, on February 7, 2015 at 7:40 pm

      I saw that one, too. Very cool animation. The painstaking stop-animation technique, where the figures are moved in tiny increments and photographed a few frames at a time. I’m glad there are folks still willing to do that, and keep that alive. Fans of the Wallace and Gromit movies will like Box Trolls, too.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on February 7, 2015 at 8:52 pm

        I went to a funeral of a great guy, today, in Jersey. A moving event. Yesterday I was told a story I forgot: how this man (the deceased) and my son, when he was, say, 6, did stop-animation with clay alligators in their backyard. Ethan went on to study animation at the art Institute of Pittsburgh.

  20. zumiee said, on February 7, 2015 at 7:48 pm

    In 1946, the Cardinals and Dodgers tied for first place in the NL, and it’s hard to believe that’s the first time that had ever happened in MLB, in either league. So they had the first playoff. A best of three, which the Cardinals won. The book has quite a bit about their two ballparks, Ebbets Field and Sportsman’s Park.
    This is a nice cool little 2 minute video about Ebbets Field.

    • ewisco said, on February 7, 2015 at 9:29 pm


      • DJLoo said, on February 7, 2015 at 11:53 pm

        Ebbets Field has been a crime ridden, drug infested ghetto apartment complex for nearly half a century.
        I would know…

  21. snarkk said, on February 7, 2015 at 11:20 pm

    Enos Slaughter was alleged by many to have been a leader of racist taunts against Jackie when he came into the League….

    • DJLoo said, on February 7, 2015 at 11:45 pm

      Well, leadership is important, snarkk…

    • James said, on February 8, 2015 at 10:01 am

      Probably helped the team chemistry, too.

  22. James said, on February 8, 2015 at 10:06 am

    In looking back at the standings from the 40s and 50s, I noted that Boston had two teams. I knew the Braves were from Boston, but I think exclusively of NYC as the multi-team city from the good ole days.

    • xoot said, on February 8, 2015 at 10:38 am


      • xoot said, on February 8, 2015 at 10:41 am

        St. Louis.

      • James said, on February 8, 2015 at 10:55 am

        Yep, the Browns, like the Braves, are this name out of the past that I never associate with a counterpart in the same city.

  23. James said, on February 8, 2015 at 10:28 am

    Currently, 1/3 of the teams in either league make the playoffs. If before 1969, the top 2 teams in the NL and AL (and maybe the one 3rd place team with the best record) had been forced into playoffs, many of the WS winners over the years would have been different. A lot of stifled intangibles there . . . .

  24. James said, on February 8, 2015 at 10:42 am

    I was happy to hear about the Shields offer. That’s 3 major deals Sabes proposed to shore up and strengthen the team in 2015. If Pablo and either of the SPs had signed, the roster would have looked pretty good to me.

  25. willedav said, on February 8, 2015 at 11:12 am

    What’s got into the Padres anyway? My godson had said something about a new cable deal when I saw him at Holiday but dang they’ve had offers out there like Yanks or Boston of old. He’s gone down to AZ last couple years and his pretty fired up to go again.
    Some odd moves maybe, but Pads appear pretty serious about being a factor in NL West.

  26. snarkk said, on February 8, 2015 at 2:30 pm

    RIP, Dean Smith.
    Let’s see. If I had a son who could play ball, would I rather send him to be coached by a guy that threw chairs onto courts and cussed out secretaries, or a guy who sat down to eat with a young black man in a white’s only Chapel Hill restaurant during the early days (’58) of the Civil Rights movement? Not much of a choice, in my book. And, I’ll even forgive him for inventing the four corners — at least the college shot clock came along to stop him for that one abomination, inventive as it was…

    • blade3colorado said, on February 8, 2015 at 2:37 pm

      Great post and tribute snarkk.

      • snarkk said, on February 8, 2015 at 3:08 pm

        blade, of the famous coaches, I put Wooden at the top, because he won with all types of teams (small — Hazzard and Goodrich), mid-size (Wickes, Rowe, Patterson) and Big (Kareem, Walton). And, he was a teacher of life, in a mid-West kind of way (ignoring Sam Gilbert’s bag man efforts, for a moment). I’d put Smith next. I’d like to hear willied’s thoughts, being the basketball guy here. Smith wasn’t a saint, nobody that successful is, but the stories are too widespread to doubt his principles. Surely, there are/were many other good to great coaches out there and molders of men, they toiled and do toil in relative obscurity, but have their good impacts on young men nonetheless. I don’t despise anyone, let alone Bobby Knight. But, there’s a difference IMO between a great coach and a great man. I’d rather a son be taught by a great man who was a good coach, rather than a great coach who sucked as a man — who uses intimidation, fear and breaking spirits as his primary teaching tools. I had a high school coach like that, and it was terrible — the only thing I learned from him is that there are some sick people in the world, and they should get help themselves or from their families. Otherwise they are to be avoided so you are not sucked into their sicko world of breaking you down as worthless, while treating others with more talent and less discipline like crystal…

  27. blade3colorado said, on February 8, 2015 at 4:24 pm

    Yes, his character was equal to Smith’s . . . Astounded that he won so often,but played by the rules (in the games and recruiting). People like your HS coach are what I call emotional vampires, they suck the life out of you. Fortunately, today – unlike back in HS and at times, places I worked – I am able to ensure the people around me are people I want to be around. Equally important, I have friends that tell me what I need to hear and not what I want to hear. Thanks for sharing snarkk. 🙂

  28. blade3colorado said, on February 8, 2015 at 4:30 pm

    Snarkk, this is powerful, especially the last part . . .

    • snarkk said, on February 8, 2015 at 9:54 pm

      Nice, thanks blade.
      I would agree with a lot, not all, of Smith’s political stances. William Nack, BTW, maybe the best writer about horse racing, ever.
      Now, these big time coaches care about the dough, and not much else. What the hell does Calipari stand for … one and done and what else?…

  29. zumiee said, on February 8, 2015 at 6:57 pm

    The St. Louis Browns were mentioned….they, of course, later became the Baltimore Orioles.
    It’s pretty amazing that when the Braves went from Boston to Milwaukee in ’53 that was the first city change ever by a major league team. MLB had had 50 years of no franchise changes.
    I have a friend who grew up in Baltimore, and he still mildly grieves the two Orioles losses to the Pirates in the World Series, ’71 and ’79. He feels both times the Orioles had the better team.

  30. zumiee said, on February 8, 2015 at 7:02 pm

    Random thought- Howard Cosell was really bad at broadcasting baseball. He really shouldn’t have been allowed in the booth. His favorite tactic was to break into the middle of the play-by-play guy’s home run calls and trample all over them. I was watching a clip of the ’77 World Series. Cosell is atrocious. Keith Jackson is no great play-by-play guy for baseball, but still, it had to be very trying to his patience working with Cosell.

    • DJLoo said, on February 8, 2015 at 7:40 pm

      Would this be what you mean, zumiee?

      • zumiee said, on February 8, 2015 at 7:53 pm

        Yeah, classic Cosell, stealing the moment from the play-by-play guy. Viewers either loved it or hated it. Probably not many in-between.

    • zumiee said, on February 8, 2015 at 7:57 pm

      Btw- how ridiculous was that for Chambliss, having to run through that mob to get to homeplate? Ballpark security has come a long way since then.

  31. zumiee said, on February 8, 2015 at 7:09 pm

    Today’s Puig gif:

  32. zumiee said, on February 8, 2015 at 10:16 pm

    AMC network is broadcasting the first two episodes of Better Call Saul on Monday night.

    • snarkk said, on February 8, 2015 at 10:24 pm

      Looking forward to it. Good reviews so far. I was thinking too much of Saul Goodman might be a bad thing. But, if they have a strong supporting cast, that’s not an issue. I’m assuming the writing will be top notch…

  33. blade3colorado said, on February 9, 2015 at 6:58 am

    It seems that Shields has reportedly signed a 4 year contract with the Friars for $72-76 million. In that ball park, and moreover, this division – I think it’s a good signing for them. Very amazed at what that GM has done. Seems that ownership has come out of their coma too. lqtm.

    • eddacker said, on February 9, 2015 at 7:41 am

      It seems, looking from way out here, that the most successful hot stove team is San Diego. Their new, youngish GM is ready to make some noise and found the team that will let him. A lot has been done by trading away some good prospects while keeping the big league roster largely intact and (obviously) raising the team’s salary up where most of the better teams are.

      Added Matt Kemp, Justin Upton, Wil Myers, Derek Norris, and Will Middlebrooks this winter

      Bull Pen: relievers Shawn Kelley and Brandon Maurer

      Starters: Adding Shields, the prize of the remaining crop of free agents,, he’ll join Andrew Cashner, Tyson Ross and Ian Kennedy

      Losing: Seth Smith, Yasmani Grandal and Jesse Hahn

      There are some questions in that group of course but the action of all that is exciting. The areas changed, on paper, certainly signal an improved team.

      Downside: The NL West has gotten tougher the last 3 years.

      • blade3colorado said, on February 9, 2015 at 9:32 am

        Good summary of the Padres off season Ed.

  34. willedav said, on February 9, 2015 at 7:31 am

    Dean Smith was a very private religious low key guy who saw the bigger picture, the school and the program as more important than himself or the individual. He ran a system that featured motion passing cutting screening that lives today through guys he mentored that has filtered down to Popovich and Kerr.

    I also think he taught the game well and prepared his guys better, besides the recruiting. I think most old school guys don’t think near as much teaching goes on today with all the proliferation of AAU stuff at younger levels.
    Not to mention all the off the court issues many of the stars that come out of those programs have they wouldn’t under a Dean smith.

    I’d also credit him with forcing the other institutions in old ACC to step up their game to compete with him which resulted in Duke hiring a guy like K. I think so many of Smith’s bitterest rivals respected he and his program even if they didn’t care for UNC at the time they played against them.

    Feinstein wrote about following the 8 schools of ACC around for a season that culminated in UNC winning it all. Kind of exhaustive book but very enlightening. He was closest to Smith and wanted to do bio of him that Smith always resisted until it was too late.

  35. zumiee said, on February 9, 2015 at 8:11 am

    I started reading this book about baseball in the late ’50s, by Michael Shapiro: “Bottom Of The Ninth.” So far it’s not knocking my socks off. It’s a little dry. But very informative. One of the main themes of the book is the awareness the owners had in the late ’50s that baseball was losing its grip as the number one spectator sport in the U.S. That’s what ultimately fueled expansion, the attempt to spread the sport across the nation. But the reality is that football and basketball fit better on television than baseball does. Baseball is better experienced at the ballpark. TV broadcasts of baseball have gotten better over the years, but the sport is just too expansive to fit completely on TV.

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