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Just Kill Her Already

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on March 19, 2015

I’m glad I don’t work in The City where I’d have to drive by this slow death everyday. I wish they’d just pulled it with one big BOOM and all we would have had left is some rubble barely visible through the smoke.

Taking Candlestick apart piece by piece is just agonizing for me. And yet I can’t stop watching these drone videos that are getting posted. I never, EVER hated The Stick. I remember laughing out loud when it would get super cold.

Without question I miss the left field bleachers the most. I had so much fun literally growing up out there.

And now they’re gutting her like a dead fish. Some sadistic fuck is slicing her into pieces.

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  1. Irish Kevin said, on March 19, 2015 at 6:11 pm

    It would be real cool if they did a demolition video.like when the bring down old buildings. Have it so it is like a domino effect around the outside. Boom, boom,boom, boom and so on

  2. DJLoo said, on March 19, 2015 at 6:19 pm

    A baby picture, back when they had high hopes for it.

    • Nipper said, on March 19, 2015 at 6:33 pm

      Yeah it had more charm then. Baseball only! I started attending games in ’61 and it was wide open. Sure it was windy but it was open. The kids would run after HRS behind the Right Field fence.

      • DJLoo said, on March 19, 2015 at 6:48 pm

        McCovey’s Army…

    • chipower9 said, on March 20, 2015 at 9:35 am

      Great picture, Loo. Thanks. Man, I sure miss that old shithole. Yeah, it was a shithole, but it was OUR shithole.

  3. eddacker said, on March 19, 2015 at 7:53 pm

    I often get the news out of sync. A day or two ago I heard the front office was shopping and outfielder. At the time I thought maybe Aoki was not working out much. Then came the news of Pagan still having issues with the back. Sad, for me, as he was a good lead off guy for us.

  4. Stewart Anstead said, on March 19, 2015 at 8:19 pm

    I agree about the Stick. It was the late 1960s and 1970s for me, and the rest of the MLB was putting up donut stadiums as the hottest thing going.

    I don’t know if there is agreement on which major league ballparks were excellent by today’s standards back then, anyway. Our parents and their parents were just defining what a major league park was. Now that I am starting to get gray hair, it is fascinating how the younger generation feels compelled to look at everything through their own lens. The press area sucked. I heard that every broadcast in the late ’90s and on. Well, it wasn’t built for much of that in those days. Too bad for the fish-hacks.

    The other argument against Candlestick was it was too windy and too cold. The absolute coldest and windiest game I ever went to was at Wrigley in Chicago. IN THE SUMMER! If that cold and windy is the standard, try and justify hanging onto Wrigley!

    – Stew
    Painter of Baseball

    • chipower9 said, on March 20, 2015 at 9:39 am

      My coldest day was a double-header, against the Cubs, in June. It was so damned cold (we were in seats under the lip), that people would rush down between innings to stand in the sun to try and warm up. And I also recall a game when my kids were really young (probably 5 and 7), in late summer/early fall. We were in the upper deck and it was so damned hot, we had to bail after the 7th. One of the few times I have ever left a Giant’s game early.

  5. Bozo said, on March 19, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    I was in the upper boxes during the 89 quake, the Stick held up. She saved a lot of lives that day. I’ll be really sad when I’m going from the airport into SF and I don’t get to see her again.
    A lot of memories, but banging a chick in one of the stalls isn’t one of them. Flav, I tip my hat to ya.

  6. Macdog said, on March 19, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    MLB hoping to ‘maximize’ final day of season:

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/12519064/mlb-seeks-last-day-boost-via-synched-starts

    • wilcojoe said, on March 20, 2015 at 9:52 am

      Interesting. I dont have a problem with it, despite the fact that it will go up directly against the NFL games that afternoon.

  7. unca_chuck said, on March 19, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    I avoid looking at the demo at all costs. It would kill me to drive up 101 every day and see that dismantling take place.Like ripping my soul out one little row of seats at a time. Seeing as how the 49ers seem to be CUBAR right now ((Cursed Beyond All Recognition) just pains me all the more.

    Give Dr. Dorkian and young Jed Tweetsalot shit as you will, but the blame for this falls directly on the shoulders of fucking Eddie D for trying to buy a fucking gambling license in New Orleans from a crooked ex-governor. He HAD the fucking deal in place to build the new stadium. Fucking tool.

    • chipower9 said, on March 20, 2015 at 9:44 am

      Well, we all have our faults, and Eddie D certainly had his, but I will remember him for all the good he did for the franchise, too. I would take him back in a heart-beat over the Dork family…hands fucking down! Eddie may have started the downfall, but the Dork family has driven the franchise into the fucking ground. Fuck them. I know it will not happen, but they should sell the team to the Brent Jones/Steve Young consortium who were trying to buy the team years ago.

  8. SanDawg said, on March 19, 2015 at 10:17 pm

    Wow. I didn’t realize they had stated tearing her down. I totally agree that is hard to watch and also wish they did it in one fell swoop instead. I always thought that lip around the stadium looked bad ass. Seeing a chunk of it destroyed bums me out.

    • unca_chuck said, on March 19, 2015 at 10:45 pm

      Hey, Dawg. Yeah, the problem out there is the stadium was built on a toxic waste dump, AKA the Naval Shipyard. To blow it up would release a toxic chemical cloud that would knolk down airplanes flying out of SFO>

  9. snarkk said, on March 19, 2015 at 10:19 pm

    Somehow, being dismantled with r-bar cheek by jowl seems appropos of the demise of the Stick. A sudden demolition by dynamite just doesn’t seem fitting. For 6 decades, it housed a lot of misery and a lot of greatness. Getting blown to smithereens to me would be disrespectful…

  10. willedav said, on March 19, 2015 at 10:37 pm

    From what I understand, neighbors nixed the one time blow up amid concerns about dust, etc.

    Upper box was a cool place to sit, my family did that often for Sunday games early ’60s. First row or two in the middle usually on 3b side of plate a couple sections. Great seats, good view, lotta sun.

  11. snarkk said, on March 19, 2015 at 11:11 pm

    Pagan’s back acting up is a bad sign. Getting an injection today is a worse sign. This outfield looks pretty darn weak. Sabes again looks to be working with a thin deck in the outfield…

    • old4times said, on March 20, 2015 at 8:54 am

      Thanks for clearing that up for us.

    • Hargesheimer said, on March 20, 2015 at 1:32 pm

      They can amputate, and it will never bother him again.

  12. DJLoo said, on March 20, 2015 at 5:08 am

    The Giants are giving Uggla a WS ring. I think the third base coach of the Royals is far more deserving…

    • gianthead said, on March 20, 2015 at 5:30 am

      That somehow posses me off…

      • gianthead said, on March 20, 2015 at 5:31 am

        Or pisses…

    • Hargesheimer said, on March 21, 2015 at 3:31 am

      Uggla’s contributions were memorable. He deserved a greater chance.

  13. gianthead said, on March 20, 2015 at 5:30 am

    They should have had a cannon and for $500 you could fire a cannonball into the Stick…at least make some more money on the deal…

  14. gianthead said, on March 20, 2015 at 5:41 am

    Here is a question I never thought about before since the stadium was always enclosed since I was a kid in the late 70s. Did the Niners move to the Stick when the outfield was still open? What was the first year the Niners played the Stick?

  15. Nipper said, on March 20, 2015 at 7:23 am

    Lou Seal once blasted me good with a water gun third base lower box. I only asked him “where is Crazy Crab?” Lucky I was sitting in the sun.

  16. unca_chuck said, on March 20, 2015 at 7:34 am

    No, they enclosed the stick in 71 and put in AstroTurf. That was the first year the Niners played there.

    It was really glorified concrete.

    • gianthead said, on March 21, 2015 at 4:59 am

      Thanks Chuck…so it was Kesar until then? You don’t see a lot of video of the Niners in the 60s…

  17. wilcojoe said, on March 20, 2015 at 7:38 am

    It’s funny, to this very day I still dream about going to Giants games. They usually start around opening day and will occur more often during high points in the season. The dreams are all set in the present day. I take Bart into the city, walk along the promenade until that majestic beauty comes into view. I stop in at MoMo’s (where I always have a seat at the bar) and then about 30 minutes before first pitch I make my way across the street. The minute I cross the street, AT&T becomes The ‘Stick. From the old school turnstiles, to the elevator that rises to the lower deck with the sweeping views of the vast concrete parking lot leading to the bay behind you. The swinging doors you pass on your way to the lower box seats, everything is Candlestick. Not sure what the dreams mean. It likely has something to do with the fact that I have only been to a handful of games at the “new” yard, but whatever it is, I still look forward to those candlestick dreams.

  18. dirtnrocksnomo said, on March 20, 2015 at 8:30 am

    I didn’t get to a lot of sporting events as a kid but the ones at Candlestick were all baseball games. Good memories of times with my Uncle. Mostly I remember driving by on the way to Daly City. I learned yesterday the the Nut Tree sign out in Vacaville is coming down. We used to meet there on the way to hunting trips when I was young. Remember those Boy Scout wood sculptures/art pieces by the bay bridge? All of these things disappearing bum me out more than expected. Sad trombone.

  19. chipower9 said, on March 20, 2015 at 9:54 am

    I will never forget my first experience at the Stick. I landed in NorCal compliments of the United States Air Force in ’77. I met some guys who were Giants fans and we went to opening day in 1978. While I grew-up a Cards fan in OK, I never made it to a MLB game as a kid, so that opening day game was also my first major league game. I remember the ride up the escalator, and the first sensations of popping out the doors and seeing the field, and smelling the fresh cut grass, etc. It was a boyhood dream like none other. I was in love. And I still am.

    It is so sad to see the Stick going down. My biggest regret right now is not going out there in the past year and taking a tour of the place before they started the demo. A friend of mine and his wife did this last year. They got to visit the locker rooms, sit in the dugouts, hit the press box, and go out onto the field. That was a big swing and a miss on my part. For now I look forward to our home opener in 24 days and watching our third World Series Champions banner get run-up the flag pole!

  20. stickman said, on March 20, 2015 at 10:55 am

    Ol Horace sure got sold a bill of goods on that piece of real estate. Now Chuck tells us it was a toxic waste dump to boot. Figures. I have only one memory from the place, a chilly night in ’89 ~ August. Terry Mulholland, traded to the Phillies earlier in the season, essentially for Bedrosian if memory glands aren’t sagging too badly, shut us down 4-2 ~ again if memory holds.

    Wondering how many pennants and World Series Championships that pile cost the Giants. Wondering how much better team revenues would have been with a better venue. Wondering if Willie would not have crushed Babe Ruth’s record before anyone else had he played in a place better suited to his power-stroke.

    So for those waxing old nostalgic over the old dump, i’m glad the team has become a winner in the new digs.

    • blade3colorado said, on March 20, 2015 at 11:21 am

      Actually, just about all of the south bay is a toxic waste site, with 23 Superfund sites in Santa Clara county alone – most in California (enjoy 🙂 ). San Francisco county is a virtual environmental paradise with only one – the aforementioned Hunters Point Naval Shipyard. I’ve worked and/or overseen 2 sites (Iron Mountain in Shasta county and NAS Moffett Field). Much of the underground aquifer water is contaminated in Santa Clara county.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Superfund_sites_in_California

    • Chipower9 said, on March 20, 2015 at 12:55 pm

      Stix – don’t get me wrong, I love the new yard, but have so many good memories (Giants and Niners) from The Stick not to continue to harbor fond memories. And I have had the same questions over the years of how many more HRs Mays may have had, etc.

      • stickman said, on March 20, 2015 at 3:18 pm

        Chi: No problem at all with fond memories. We all have them. But it cannot be denied that Candlestick was a long-term albatross around the neck of Giants hopes.

  21. zumiee said, on March 20, 2015 at 12:43 pm

    Sandoval, 0 for 3 today, 2 Ks, and now hitting .185. Just sayin.’

    • Flavor said, on March 20, 2015 at 12:58 pm

      he’d fit right in with SF

      • zumiee said, on March 20, 2015 at 12:59 pm

        Badda boomp!! 🙂

  22. zumiee said, on March 20, 2015 at 12:58 pm

    Speaking of Bay Area toxicity, as a lot of you know, the San Jose Mercury newspaper is named after the mercury production that used to be done in the area. In fact, for many years the Bay itself was considered to have a dangerous level of mercury in it.

    Regarding the ‘Stick, most of my happier memories of the place involved the Niners. I was fortunate to get to go to some of their games during the ’80s and ’90s, sometimes in nice seats, sometimes in way faraway seats, but a lot of great victories.
    I do have some good memories of the Giants at the ‘Stick, too. I was at the Halicki no-hitter. And I can think of other cool memories, too.
    I remember a particularly scary game, on a 4th of July, when idiots were lobbing firecrackers all over the stadium. It’s amazing what was tolerated in those days in stadiums and ballparks.

  23. zumiee said, on March 20, 2015 at 1:06 pm

    I think the Giants game tonight may be live on the Bay Area NBC affiliate (Channel 31 in Sacramento and Central Valley area?) at 6:00, but don’t quote me on that. Also may be broadcast in some areas on the MLB Network.

  24. stickman said, on March 20, 2015 at 3:23 pm

    Zach Wheeler to have Tommy John surgery. Official as of today. Maybe Sabean and his scouting and development staff had a wee hunch.

    • Hargesheimer said, on March 21, 2015 at 1:43 am

      Plus, they got all that production from Beltran.

  25. unca_chuck said, on March 20, 2015 at 4:47 pm

    Thee ae just too many games to sort through it properly comprehend what I’ve seen there. Funny thing is is I’ve saved a ton of ticket stubs that I keep meaning to put behind glass somehow.

    I’ve divided them into concerts and sports . Both are about 3″ thick. I think the oldest go back to 1972.

    • Flavor said, on March 20, 2015 at 5:09 pm

      you saw so many concerts there they go 3 inches deep?
      I saw Monsters of Rock in ’88. That’s the extent of my concerts at Candlestick

  26. unca_chuck said, on March 20, 2015 at 4:49 pm

    What I can’t figure it is why did they build so much foul territory?

    • Flavor said, on March 20, 2015 at 5:09 pm

      all those old stadiums had a bunch of foul territory. They were thinking about the game, not the fans

  27. willedav said, on March 20, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    Dunno how many teams Big 12 (highest rated conference going in) had in originally, but there’s 4 less of them as of right now as Fighting Ducks take out Okie St. 2 of those gonzo from yesterday were 3 seeds vs. a 14.
    Baylor was just plain stupid, throwing long cross court passes vs. full court pressure that were out of bounds and over guys heads.

    • Flavor said, on March 20, 2015 at 7:00 pm

      super surprised we’re seeing all these W’s out of the Pac 12

      • willedav said, on March 20, 2015 at 7:52 pm

        definitely. See how many survive the weekend.
        I’m watching SD st light up St. John’s and Lavin. If they win they’d get Duke.
        Coach Fisher is even older than I am and he’s amazing.

  28. Flavor said, on March 20, 2015 at 7:02 pm

    I think the ‘Stick reminiscing is just about all those days that make up our past. And it’s not just about remembering the past more fondly than it deserves. It’s about missing being young. That was such an awesome feeling. Now we’re old, lol. Not as awesome.

    • willedav said, on March 20, 2015 at 7:53 pm

      Young, yes and often foolish, doing stuff I’d never dream of nowadays, esp in public place like the Stick.

  29. old4times said, on March 20, 2015 at 7:54 pm

    Okert on the mound. Reminds me of Runzler. Let’s hope it turns out better.

  30. zumiee said, on March 20, 2015 at 8:03 pm

    Nice well-played crisp game by the Giants so far. What we recognize as Giants Baseball. Yesterday’s game against the Brewers was well-played, also. Cool.
    Miller and Krukow have been fun to listen to, as usual.
    The only negative tonight so far has been Aoki’s ongoing struggles at the plate. Another 0-fer.

  31. zumiee said, on March 20, 2015 at 8:35 pm

    12,000 attendance at the Giants game tonight at their ST home ballpark. How many Giants crowds were under 12,000 at the ‘Stick over the years? A few. 🙂

    • gianthead said, on March 21, 2015 at 5:12 am

      Probably the majority of games I went to…

  32. eddacker said, on March 20, 2015 at 8:46 pm

    Bruce Bochy and Larry Baer talk about the world series. And they are having fun. My roommate told me it started at 9 tonight but it is actually on now. I am reasonably sure there will be a podcast. This may not be the first airing as they are talking about the Super Bowl.

  33. eddacker said, on March 20, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    Strickland trying to close it out

  34. eddacker said, on March 20, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    did I say KQED? distract_edd tying to watch nbcl and listen, but I have gotten rid of the gum

  35. zumiee said, on March 20, 2015 at 8:55 pm

    Next Thursday night and Friday night are live broadcasts. Thurs. vs. the A’s on Comcast, I think; and Fri. vs. the Dodgers on the local affiliate, I think.

    • eddacker said, on March 20, 2015 at 8:59 pm

      Bay Bridge series (and the season) approacheth
      🙂

      • zumiee said, on March 20, 2015 at 9:04 pm

        Bring it on! 🙂

  36. eddacker said, on March 20, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    found the archive as this was recorded in Feb:
    http://www.commonwealthclub.org/events/2015-02-04/san-francisco-giants%E2%80%99-bruce-bochy-and-larry-baer

    Larry Baer has stated that hiring three-time World Series champion and two-time National League manager of the year Bruce Bochy was “probably the best move [Giants management] ever made.” Here’s a chance to celebrate and relive the Giants’ amazing 2014 World Series victory. Go behind the scenes and into the dugout with Manager Bochy and Team President Baer to find out who’s in, who’s out and what strategies will keep the Giants at the peak of their game.

  37. zumiee said, on March 20, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    Tough-break outing for Strickland. Duffy threw a ball away. And Strickland shattered a bat, and the ball dinked in for a hit. And then a groundball seeing-eye hit. That’s baseball, though.

  38. zumiee said, on March 20, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    And Tyler Rogers wasn’t fooling anybody tonight. Tyler Rogers??

  39. zumiee said, on March 20, 2015 at 9:22 pm

    Well, the game was lost with a weird 9th inning, but still a pretty darned entertaining ST game, IMO. 🙂

  40. Hargesheimer said, on March 21, 2015 at 1:41 am

    Just saw the box score. Strickland didn’t have his gopher ball working as usual, but he still found a way.


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