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Kicking the Shit out of the Padres

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on May 6, 2015

Happy 84th to Willie Mays!

Wither Voggy? Heresy….

I’m going to enjoy the slow Summer decline of the Padres who I never thought would do much this year. You can’t round up a bunch of glitzy hitters, especially nearly all right handed hitters, and expect it to come together like magic. Matt Kemp has 1 home run this year and once he quits the healthy Upton bro might not be far behind.

I’d have some fun talking shit to Padre fans, the problem is, I don’t know any. Not a single one. My main man on the scene in SD, San Diggity, might be able to tell us what a Padre fan is like. Assuming he knows one down there. He can chime in once he reads this……

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  1. Carstie Clausen said, on May 6, 2015 at 7:01 am

    Happy Birthday Willie! Organization should do the right thing and cut the ATT contract for naming rights and make Willie Mays Field official. THAT would be a class act.

    • chipower9 said, on May 6, 2015 at 7:53 am

      Yes, that would be the right thing to do, but with the revenue stream, I won’t hold my breath waiting for it to happen.

    • giants54 said, on May 6, 2015 at 8:04 am

      Mays plaza is enough, IMO.
      No one names stadiums after players. Hence Yankee Stadium and not Babe Ruth Park.
      Its all corporate now except for a handful. Speaking of which, that $2million a year they get from AT&T is puny. Mets get $20m per from metlife. Cowboys just signed for $18m from AT&T. 49ers get 11m per from Levi’s.

    • xoot said, on May 6, 2015 at 8:05 am

      Naming the park at China Basin Willie Mays Field would be a great thing. But I have a feeling the naming rights have been sold to the devil in perpetuity. The law firm that usually reps the Giants (and did so for purposes of development and construction of the park) also repped PacBell (not to mention Standard Oil of Calif./Chevron, et al) going back to the beginning of time. SBC snapped up PacBell, and the naming rights, and then clothed itself in the AT&T trademark. Must be valuable–the right to have its name on the park, emblazoned in red against the sky and mentioned a billion times a year by everyone on the air who announces or reports on a Giants home game.

      • chipower9 said, on May 6, 2015 at 9:46 am

        24 years at 50 mil. Park opened in 2000, so there are 10 more years remaining on the naming rights.

      • xoot said, on May 6, 2015 at 1:38 pm

        “The park opened as Pacific Bell Park, or Pac Bell Park, in 2000, the naming rights having been acquired by Pacific Telesis for $50 million in 1996 for 24 years. The company subsequently negotiated another contract that paid the team $8 million more for expansion of the rights.” SF Chronicle, 2/4/06 [right after the AT&T name change was announced].

        A bit ambiguous.

      • xoot said, on May 6, 2015 at 1:45 pm

        Official resume: “Baer also serves as a key strategist and negotiator of the club’s major business and baseball transactions. This includes the Barry Bonds signing in November 1992, the naming rights agreement with AT&T (then Pacific Bell) in 1996 and other strategic business partnerships. He led the effort to host the 2007 All-Star Game in San Francisco and was the driving force behind the Giants partnership with Comcast to create a regional sports network for the Bay Area.” Ah ha. Sold BY the devil.

  2. willedav said, on May 6, 2015 at 7:19 am

    Way overrated. Their IF is really weak; playing Solarte at 1b cost them big time last night. Kemp only had warning track power vs. Vogs and Upton made a terrible throw. When’s last time they scored?

    More surprising has been the pitching. Ross had zero control night before, and Cashner has had a big build up as potential ace for a couple years now. AGon hit 3 HRs off him in his first start and last night he gave up 7 hits and 3 walks early to put his team down 5-0 after 3. Outdueled by Vogs is not a good look.

  3. Flavor said, on May 6, 2015 at 7:37 am

    “Outdueled by Vogs is not a good look….”

  4. chipower9 said, on May 6, 2015 at 7:57 am

    I had a feeling early yesterday that Vogey would pull one of those rabbits out of his hat. Here is a part of my 7:20 AM post from yesterday…

    I know no one expects Vogey to do jack shit tonight, but this is the classic moment where he gets a plate of the extra special enchiladas and blows everyone outta the water. It could happen (and monkeys could fly out my ass, too). As I called Hudson’s first win on Saturday, I predict another Giants win today, and we slide past the Friars, moving a half-game ahead of them.

    Vogey still has good velocity and stuff, and as I mentioned last night, his problem (and that of many other Giants) is being consistent.

    Ben-Hur on the bump today to close out the Friars. Go get ’em kid (yeah, I know he really isn’t that young, but he is the youngster on the staff).

  5. zumiee said, on May 6, 2015 at 9:41 am

    Yeah, the “SBC” years were rough years for the team. The team wasn’t good, and the SBC ballpark name was the epitome of bland corporate nothingness.

  6. zumiee said, on May 6, 2015 at 9:45 am

    Has anyone gotten Baggs’ new book yet? I’ll get around to it eventually. It’s a kind of history of the ballpark, by looking at particular landmark games. The first chapter is kind of a turn-off, though. It’s about the first game ever at the park, when Elster hit 3 homeruns in a Dodger victory. Strange way to start the book, IMO.

  7. ewisco said, on May 6, 2015 at 10:42 am

    for your amusement: The structure in the picture behind Candlestick was built to do some of the early testing of the Polaris, Fleet Ballistic Missile, and subsequent follow-ons that put nuclear weapons on submarines. they did a lot of tube launches and shot the dummies into the middle of the Bay. They had a target area set up there to measure accuracy. I think the structure was used to load the test missiles into the simulated launch tubes and maybe provide a guide on the way up. Anyway, FBM along with lots of other really cool things was developed in Sunnyvale.

    • sandog said, on May 6, 2015 at 11:01 am

      Great stuff, Wisco! Any idea what year that sucker was built? I feel like it has always been sitting over there as long as I’ve been going to the Stick, which is the early

      • ewisco said, on May 6, 2015 at 3:25 pm

        i want to say late 50’s. Polaris was deployed in 1960.

  8. chipower9 said, on May 6, 2015 at 10:49 am

    Posey with the day off…

    Aoki LF
    Panik, 2B
    Pagan, CF
    Belt, 1B
    Craw, SS
    Maxwell’s Silver Hammer, RF
    Susac, C
    Duffster, 3B
    Ben-Hur, P


  9. sandog said, on May 6, 2015 at 11:08 am

    That native San Diegan who grew up rooting for the Pads and has stuck with them ever since is a bit of a rare beast, but they are out there. I know several. In general, the SD sportsfan is a bit jaded as the NBA has bolted on them TWICE and neither the Chargers or Padres have ever won it all. Plus, you throw in all the hearbreaking losses that SDSU has had over the years as well. So, they seem to be always waiting for the other shoe to drop. I will say excitement is running pretty high down here though with this current team—cautiously optimistic I would say. And with good reason IMO. I think the Pads are a playoff caliber team as presently constructed. Their line-up I think would get a strong endorsement from James as a premium is put on guys who can swing the bat without much concern for defense. I think it is a fun team to watch and have been to 4 games already. Gonna be a great summer watching all this play out. Yes, I took some heat from Pad fans after the first week of the season, but I’m enjoying giving it right back to them these days. I like to mimic a reeling-in-a-fish motion whilst giving them crap about the Giants overtaking them.

    • Irish Kevin said, on May 6, 2015 at 11:31 am


  10. Irish Kevin said, on May 6, 2015 at 11:30 am

    Personally I think Irish Kevin Stadium has a nice ring to it

    • chipower9 said, on May 6, 2015 at 11:32 am

      Another wet dream, Kev???

      • Irish Kevin said, on May 6, 2015 at 12:03 pm

        LMAO no just dreaming!!

  11. Irish Kevin said, on May 6, 2015 at 11:30 am

    Test test

  12. Carstie Clausen said, on May 6, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    Whew! Heston wormed out of that one-out bases loaded situation by getting down Yonder to ground into that McGDP. Pads must have been closely watching videos of the “kid” in action. He may have to alter his game plan.

  13. zumiee said, on May 6, 2015 at 1:11 pm

    One more thing I’ll say about Baggs’ book is that it’s not what I was hoping for. I thought it was going to focus on the 3-in-5, and its focus is on the new ballpark era, which is fine, but not as got-to-get-that-book-now, for me. But I’ll get to it.
    At the moment, I’m still catching up on National Geographics. Just read an interesting article about guys who capture wild cattle in southern Argentina and Chile. Feral cattle? I’d never heard of that. And catching a feral, angry bull who doesn’t want to be caught, turns out to be as difficult as it sounds. One guy had his teeth shattered and his testicles almost gored off.

    • Jon R. Weeks said, on May 6, 2015 at 2:48 pm

      They are doing that very same thing up in Alaska on a deserted island. Cattle had been brought there to feed and some escaped to run wild. Now twenty years later, they are trying to capture them to relocate. Not a job I would apply for.

  14. unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2015 at 1:46 pm

    Sheesh how do you fuck that up?

    • unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2015 at 1:47 pm

      Aoki, not the cattle wrangler.

      • chipower9 said, on May 6, 2015 at 1:49 pm


  15. chipower9 said, on May 6, 2015 at 1:48 pm

    Damn…away from the desk for a bit, come back and it is 5 zip. Hesto Not So Presto giving up 9 hits and 5 earned. Hmmm….

    Well, at least our boys got one of the runs back. It is early…we can still win this mother. GO GIANTS!

  16. chipower9 said, on May 6, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    RIP Marv Hubbard. Dude was a bulldozer in his playing days…

  17. chipower9 said, on May 6, 2015 at 1:53 pm

    Panik Attack Rally Time! Let’s go Crazy Horse!

  18. chipower9 said, on May 6, 2015 at 1:59 pm

    Okay…maybe I pull back my “Trade Belt” suggestion. πŸ˜‰ But I will say, the guy needs to heat-up, and keep it going. It is time for BB9 to reach his potential and to do it regularly.

  19. unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    Looks like belt is doing just that.

  20. chipower9 said, on May 6, 2015 at 2:04 pm

    Damn…2nd and 3rd, one out, and no runs…

  21. chipower9 said, on May 6, 2015 at 2:41 pm

    Belt must have been reading my “trade Belt” diatribe on the Flap the past couple of days.

  22. unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2015 at 2:41 pm

    Crawfish with another opportunity

  23. Irish Kevin said, on May 6, 2015 at 3:52 pm

    Hmmm…so much for kicking the shit out of the Padres. Nothing to worry about, one loss out of the last 9 games? I can live with that

  24. Flavor said, on May 6, 2015 at 4:35 pm

    well, look, it was not a good day for the Giants. But at least we got to the bottom of what that big assed thing in the Bay is. Thank you E-WISCO!

    • ewisco said, on May 6, 2015 at 4:46 pm

      i would have LOVED watching them launch shit into the bay.

      • Flavor said, on May 6, 2015 at 5:08 pm

        I’m half tempted to round up a few Flappers, climb that beatch and just go hit some golf balls as far as we can…..

  25. blade3colorado said, on May 6, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    Irony of all ironies – Barry Bonds sponsoring a women’s bicycle team, a sport tainted by doping. Interesting extended ESPN article about his life today and sponsorship of the bicycle team . . .


  26. zumiee said, on May 6, 2015 at 5:42 pm

    Good call by Blade, on Saturday, reeling in some of my Heston-mania. Blade’s point is a good one; the Giants really need to find a solid #2 via trade at some point, in order to make a deep playoff run. MadBum plus smoke and mirrors, like 2014, would be very difficult to repeat.

  27. zumiee said, on May 6, 2015 at 5:47 pm

    It all depends on how all-in the Giants would want to go. What would it take to get Hamels from the Phils?
    How about a truckload of minor leaguers. No one’s untouchable, I would think, other than maybe Okert.

    • blade3colorado said, on May 6, 2015 at 5:54 pm

      Agree about Okert being hard to part with . . . I haven’t checked his record in the last month or so, but I am very high on him for 2 reasons: 1. He is a lefty; and 2. His stuff has been described as ready for prime time now, even as a future closer (relative rarity among lefties).

      • zumiee said, on May 6, 2015 at 5:57 pm

        Yeah, if it weren’t for Affeldt and Lopez already holding the fort as the key lefties, I think Okert would be up by now. It’s nice having some minor league depth at that spot. Okert will get his chance eventually.

  28. Irish Kevin said, on May 6, 2015 at 5:49 pm

    I still think if Cain comes back he will be a reliable pitcher.

    • zumiee said, on May 6, 2015 at 5:53 pm

      I really hope so. It’s so much fun watching him pitch when he’s doing well. I miss The Horse.

  29. zumiee said, on May 6, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    The Brewers put up a 5-spot on the Dodgers in the first inning. Cool.

  30. giants54 said, on May 6, 2015 at 6:52 pm

    Phils might regret not unloading Hamels if he continues to struggle. In any case, no way do giants gut the farm for anyone pitcher, IMO. Just not their MO. Think they will look to get a guy like Peavy last yr for B prospects if they do anything.

    • blade3colorado said, on May 6, 2015 at 7:17 pm

      Yeah, I would be very wary about going after Hamels. Dude hasn’t done jack this season.

  31. willedav said, on May 6, 2015 at 8:23 pm

    Some of the pitchers available are same situation as J Up—FA eligible next year, kind of like the Beltran deal.
    Do you trade for a quality guy and then risk him leaving? Or wait out the year and spend the $$$?
    Teams like Reds and Nats face interesting situation from other side—can they deal an FA eligible guy off for something, or wait and risk losing him altogether?

    Even if Cain does come back into rotation on regular basis, you can’t ever have too much pitching.

  32. djloo27 said, on May 6, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    Except for a deadline 3B they’ll stand pat if their in contention after the ASG.
    Bochy will start setting up the rotation in a few weeks so that Bum can pitch the WC game…

  33. dirtnrocksnomo said, on May 6, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    Not much exciting to report from the yard today fellas. Mrs. Dirt decided to join me which is always nice. I’ve probably mentioned that she is from Germany so Baseball is something of a mystery to her. Fortunately today’s game provided opportunities to explain some of the finer points. Like when a base runner from 3rd crosses the plate but the point doesn’t count when the last out of the inning is from a force play at 1st on a batted ball. Or why a runner from home to first is out when he hits a dribbler in front of the plate and is drilled by the throw to first because he was on the inside of the in bounds line. The head swims sometimes…

    Anyway, Heston wasn’t fooling anyone from the get go. Personally, I like the unbalanced schedule but playing some teams outside of the NL west will probably be good for him. Belt’s shot off the bricks was something to see. He was AT&T’d twice today. The more I see of Duffy the more I like him. Like all good LBSU alumni he takes advantage of his opportunities. I hope he’s not trade bait. McDP made an appearance in the on deck circle only to have Sanchez hit instead. His days are clearly numbered. Last year I felt that Blanco had the best walk up music. Today I was thinking it was Crawford until Aoki queued up some licks from The Pulp Fiction soundtrack. Dude does some weird shit on the diamond but he’s fun to watch and has really solidified the lead off spot. I wasn’t expecting a win today and a wise man once said “nobody rises to low expectations”.

  34. unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2015 at 10:29 pm

    There’s unbalanced, and there there’s this. We’re playing the Dodgers for the 3rd time in 7 weeks. Be nice to throw in a LITTLE variety. A Cubbies or Brew Crew or even a Met . . .

  35. unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2015 at 10:41 pm

    Yes to Duffy as well. And yeah Aoki gets props for the walk up music. But just when I get al jazzed he gets caught rounding the bag too far. The play was right in front of him and he still went too far off the base. Doh!

    Point? Inbound line?

    More proof McDeepee is a doof is his walkup music is Simple Man – by Shinedown!

    Bummie KNOWS the correct answer to that is Lynyrd Skynyrd

    More than you ever want to know about Giants walk up music…..


  36. dirtnrocksnomo said, on May 6, 2015 at 10:51 pm

    Yeah, chuck. Point and inbound line. I find it is best to explain things in terms she can grasp. Haha!

    You should’ve heard our discussion when they were laying the chalk before the game. Sweet Jebus.

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