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Big Game for Voggy

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on May 10, 2015

For me, this is a real big start for Voggy. All the praise he got for “pounding the strike zone” last time will be balls sent the other way by Stanton deep, deep into outer space if he tries that same approach today. But he can build off his last start if he pitches smart and gets lucky.

If not, NASA could have their hands full trying to track all those balls the Marlins will be launching today……

LU– no Stanton


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  1. Carstie Clausen said, on May 10, 2015 at 10:06 am

    Vogie vs Latos. May the sparks fly.

  2. willedav said, on May 10, 2015 at 10:21 am

    Loo that’s a pretty good point from the end of thread. The way they play RF at ATT is a trip and with all that open space to work with Mays would have dominated if pitched away and hit .350 (esp with Mac behind him). LF seems to play pretty fair even at night.
    I saw him PH once late in second game of a Sunday DH where he smoked 2 screaming drives in a row just foul into the RF corner.
    Had the crowd congregated beyond RF fence pretty fired up.

  3. blade3colorado said, on May 10, 2015 at 10:38 am

    I’m not confident at all that the Warriors have the wherewithal and steely determination to beat Memphis. Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph bullied the Warriors’ smaller frontline for 43 points and 23 rebounds Saturday. Couple that with something I read about Speights undergoing an MRI today for his calf injury, well let’s just say it doesn’t look good for the Dubs.

    . . . And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Splash boys may not be intimidated by Memphis, but defensive stud, Tony Allen and PG Mike Conley were like a hive of hornet bees harassing Curry and Thompson – where both shot 9-for-30 from 3-point range through the first two games. Saturday? Yep, they did much the same thing, when both players missed 11 of their 16 attempts beyond the arc. Meh.

    I have no idea what Kerr and company have planned for the next game in this series, but what they’ve been doing has not worked. Is it just me, or do the Warriors look like they are playing this like a regular season game? No fire, no intensity . . . Almost as if they think this is a boxing match versus the Grizzlies, who are playing like this is a UFC Octagon Cage Death Match.

  4. giants54 said, on May 10, 2015 at 10:44 am

    Some hope but small sample …Voggys home era splits are night and day better
    1.80 vs 13.50

  5. willedav said, on May 10, 2015 at 10:46 am

    Wow, funky LU even for getaway day. See what happens.
    I’ll give Bochy credit for getting Blanco and Susac in there, Duff too. Extra day of rest for few regs, tho I think guys from Mays days would have said rest is overrated.

  6. willedav said, on May 10, 2015 at 10:49 am

    Prado seems to be one of those pesky guys that burns SF. Would have been a good pickup imo, nothing outstanding but versatile solid vet type.

    • Flavor said, on May 10, 2015 at 10:50 am

      that’s what McGehee was supposed to be!

  7. Flavor said, on May 10, 2015 at 10:50 am

    Blade– I see what you mean but I can’t believe they’re treating this like a reg season game for 2 reasons: This isn’t matt williams running the show, it’s Steve Kerr. And that dude has more playoff experience than pretty much anyone in the world. Plus, the Warriors themselves have recent playoff experience. So, I hope to God they pick up the intensity or whatever they need to do. Because last night was a joke. Sure, there were the turnovers caused by the tenacious D of Memphis. But they also missed countless open 3’s and a ton of freaking free throws. So, something is clearly wrong. Hope kerr has the answer.

    • blade3colorado said, on May 10, 2015 at 11:03 am

      Thanks for mentioning the turnovers, which I didn’t mention in my post. Memphis scored 22 points off 17 Golden State turnovers. The Warriors countered with only seven points off 15 turnovers by the Grizzlies. They definitely need to turn that around as well.

  8. giants54 said, on May 10, 2015 at 10:56 am

    They looked at times slow stunned scared and bewildered ..rushed a lot of shots it seemed to me. Agree with Kerr…they lost their poise.

  9. blade3colorado said, on May 10, 2015 at 11:13 am

    Latos seems to be pitching well at the moment, although in his last start, he did give up 5 walks. He was able to generate more ground balls (11) than in any of his previous starts this season and he also had more then 100 pitches for the first time this year. After a first start where he totally face planted, Latos has given up three runs or fewer in five straight starts

    So in my opinion, the Giants need to be patient with him (e.g., last night I was beside myself when Buster popped up on the first pitch in one of his ABs. Very unusual for him and not his MO usually). Anywho, they have a tough opponent in Latos.

    • ewisco said, on May 10, 2015 at 12:53 pm

      actually i read somewhere recently that Posey was going after the first pitch more.

  10. gianthead said, on May 10, 2015 at 12:04 pm

    Blade’s thoughts are dead on about the Dubs. Last night’s effort and game plan were so pathetic. I think Kerr needs a big shakeup, but that would have been a lot more doable if Speights did not get hurt. I am still thinking something along the lines of starting Ezeli on Zach Randolph and bring Draymond off the bench. Have Ezeli just really go at Randolph hard and beat the living crap out of him (legally of course). Make him earn everything and Ezeli earns every foul.

    Every time Randolph goes out, then David Lee needs to play and they need to feed him. Bogut has got to take some outside shots as well. He passes up wide open jumpers from the top of the key and the Grizzlies then double up on the boards daring him to shoot.

    They have to have the mind set if they just win this next game, they have home court once again, but they cant show up with whatever Kerr drew up for game 2 and thought that was good enough for Game 3. Iggy has to stop shooting from outside and use his skill of taking the ball inside.

    • snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 1:26 pm

      Anytime Bogut shoots other than a dunk is a wasted shot. That’s why he rarely shoots. Lee gets eaten alive against big dudes underneath, reject city if he tries shots inside. He might be good for a few minutes to see if he can make some 15 footers. Otherwise, he’s a huge defensive liability. Ezeli could be a good change of pace. Dubs need to make some shots. They’ve been terrible on the 3s, and still haven’t been blown out. I would just push push push the ball up the court at all times; they can’t win a half court game against Memphis…

  11. Bozo said, on May 10, 2015 at 12:12 pm

    Paulinasia – from the last thread you asked about Cain and Peavy, Baggs mentioned their rehab yesterday. http://tinyurl.com/l75vmcc

    Goin’ for the Fish fry split today – Craw still leads the team in HRs, RBIs, Extra base hits, SLG and OPS and he’s sitting? I know he’s played every game but still…

  12. blade3colorado said, on May 10, 2015 at 12:21 pm

    I had Pineda in the early fantasy games today. I think the Yankees may have found an ace . . . 14 SO in 6 innings. He was never this good in Seattle (although, a lot of potential). Seems to be coming into his own this season.

  13. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 1:09 pm

    Giants scrubini game today, with Voggy hopefully NOT doing his every other game dosey do, because today is the OTHER day that would not be good. Maybe the scrubs can string some hits together, at least Stanton is sitting today…

  14. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 1:18 pm

    Kruk and Kuip show is usually a bit of innocuous fluff, but today’s was actually funny, as they mentioned the Giants are headed for two with the ‘Stros. They were talking about baseball fights, and how if one starts, all players are expected on the field, regardless of where they are when the fight starts. Years ago, Gints were in Houston, and some kind of bad blood happened during the game, so Mark Davis plunked Enos Cabell in the latter innings, and a scrum ensued on the field. Kuiper was back in the clubhouse watching the game on TV with his cleats on and having a smoke, getting “fired up” for a possible late inning PH appearance. The visitor clubhouse was quite a ways from the dugout, through a maze of concrete walkways and several flights of stairs. Kuiper saw the fight start on TV, so he knew he had to get out there. He made his way through the maze and finally got on the field to participate in the scrum. Anyway, after the fight ended, Kuiper went back to the dugout and sat next to Kruk. Kruk said that Kuiper looked like he really took a beating — cut on the forehead, skinned elbows, and holes in his pants at the knees. Kruk said — “Hey, Smooth, you look pretty nasty, do we have to retaliate on somebody next inning?” Kuiper: “Nah, nobody hit me — I ran from the clubhouse to the dugout and fell four times”…

  15. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 1:29 pm

    This day in 1970. Giants v. NY Mets at Shea. Noted per B. Murphy on KNBR earlier, then I pulled the game stats off baseball-reference.
    Stretch clubbed a 2-run shot early against Nolan Ryan.
    Followed by a nice Grand Salami against Tug McGraw.
    Ho hum, a 6 RBI day for the HOFer.
    Bobby Bonds with 2 SBs.
    Kenny Henderson 2-4 with a 2-bagger and 2 RBIs, hitting .360 with a 1.065 OPS. Henderson was a darn good player, I wish the Giants had him (at age 25) right now. Kenny, Pagan and Pence would be a friggin awesome outfield.
    1970 was Kenny’s best year as a Giant: .294, .394, .460, .854, 17 dingers and 88 RBIs.
    Mays didn’t play.
    Giants won 11-7.
    And, WhoTF were Bob Burda and Russ Gibson? I looked ’em up:
    Burda — 298 PAs over 4 seasons in the 60s with SF as utility guy;
    Gibson — 148 PAs over ’70-’72 with SF as a backup catcher, then out of the league…

    LU that day:
    Bobby Bonds CF
    Ron Hunt 2B
    Willie McCovey 1B
    Ken Henderson RF
    Bob Burda LF
       Bob Taylor PR-LF
    Tito Fuentes 3B
    Russ Gibson C
    Hal Lanier SS
    Juan Marichal P

    • djloo27 said, on May 10, 2015 at 1:45 pm

      Burda and Gibson I remember well. Bob Taylor is the baffler for me. Absolutely zero recollection of him…

  16. mrsprtdude said, on May 10, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    Great story Snark!
    Re Dubs..Not to pile on but from the opening moment of this series i see them thinking it was going to be easy. Curry especially has seemed very lackadaisical. Lazy passes, lame turnovers. They played poorly in the 1st game too i thought even though they won. I honestly thought game two was just a great team having a bad shooting day. That they came out so poorly with no fire in the nest game is not good.
    Any one think they look like a team that’s going to win 3/4?

  17. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 2:04 pm

    Career stats of 2 infielders, who played 10-years minimum in MLB, same position, most of which were with Giants. Guesses?

    .228, .255, .275, .529

    .222, .277, .289, .566

    • snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 2:45 pm

      Hal Lanier.
      Johnnie Lemaster….

  18. Macdog said, on May 10, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    Maybe the Giants should’ve brought back Dirrrrrrty Sanchez to hit against Latos.

  19. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 2:13 pm

    Voggy’s probably thinking with this scrub SF lineup today, he’s already given up the one run he CAN give up…

  20. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 2:22 pm

    Somebody’s gotta hit a dinger for the Giants against Latos, else it looks rough for stringing some hits together…

  21. giants54 said, on May 10, 2015 at 2:29 pm

    even money on DP

  22. willedav said, on May 10, 2015 at 2:30 pm

    Giants story in a nutshell—Blanco and Aoki beat out a couple dribblers, Morse drills one hopper over 421 sign.

  23. willedav said, on May 10, 2015 at 2:32 pm
  24. Macdog said, on May 10, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    Only one out that time from McGehee, who probably was hoping Blanco’s hit would get overturned.

  25. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 2:36 pm

    So, it looks like with McDP hitting, Bochy is now going to send the runner at first with less than 2 outs, risk the strike out/throw out, to avoid the highly probable DP it he makes contact. Kinda weird, but logical, adjustment to keep this guy in the LU…

  26. giants54 said, on May 10, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    At least at home, VSong looks like he’s still got plenty left.

  27. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 2:48 pm

    Belt with the RBI knock to LF!
    When he’s hitting shots to LF, he’s definitely got a groove on…

  28. giants54 said, on May 10, 2015 at 2:49 pm

    There’s that zero sum running game paying off

  29. willedav said, on May 10, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    Nice job by Belt there to pick up Panik and get Vogs off the hook.
    Guy pitched well today.

  30. Macdog said, on May 10, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    Hail the stolen base!

  31. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    Kuiper still calls Morse “Morris”.
    Drives me nertz…

    • willedav said, on May 10, 2015 at 3:04 pm

      Flems doesn’t impress me much tho; on radio Miller treats him like a kid brother. Kruk’s health deteriorates I don’t see Kuip and Flems working together.

      • snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 3:57 pm

        K&K’s contracts expire at the same time, not sure which year, maybe next? Kuip’s a coupla years younger than Kruk, so Kuip might want to hang on a bit, dunno…

  32. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 3:04 pm

    McDP grounds to 2b, at least that moves Blanco to 3rd.
    Outside that one night with the Slam and the Flapper game against the Angels, this dude just sucks so far…

  33. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 3:08 pm

    Well, Voggy broke his on/off game streak. 2 “on” now in a row — nice game today, in spades. 7 frames, 96 pitches, no walks, 5 Ks, got last 10 out in a row.
    Just when you think this guy is done, he comes back like a cockroach. You just never know what you’re going to get from him. When he’s on, he’s like a #3. When he’s off, he’s like DFA material…

    • Macdog said, on May 10, 2015 at 3:10 pm

      Compared to MadBum last night, he looked like a #2.

      • snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 3:11 pm

        Yeah, Voggy and Timmeh fighting for the #2 moniker now…

  34. alleykat69 said, on May 10, 2015 at 3:10 pm

    At the game today.
    Real good pitching by Vogs,7 strong innings, Nicole must of put an extra burrito in his speedo for Mothers Day, as he was dealing inside& outside with command all game.Clutch 2 out hit by Belt to tie it up!!!

    • snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 3:12 pm

      Come on Kat, bring this sucker home…

  35. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 3:13 pm

    Friggin’ Gordon is En Fuego…

  36. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 3:31 pm

    Uncool giving up the go ahead run on a wild pitch…

  37. Flavor said, on May 10, 2015 at 3:38 pm

    That at bat was a perfect example of why I think belt is overrated here. We needed him to be a big assed stud swinging 1-bagger in that situation and he fucking hits a swinging bunt.

    • snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 3:47 pm

      Well he got the only SF RBI earlier in the game with a clutch knock. Nobody else is doing crap in this scrubini outfit. If he’s getting a check the size of Posey’s, I’d agree with you. Posey may come in to PH in the 9th, we’ll see if he gets something done after getting needed “rest”…

  38. alleykat69 said, on May 10, 2015 at 3:42 pm

    Damm Belt battled back to get that full count, thinking he was gonna go gap atleast to tie it, not a 2 foot squibbler in front of the plate,Yikes.
    Need to talk to the baseball gods, to help pull out this game now!!

  39. willedav said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:00 pm

    Unbelievable Arias got deked there. blanco crushed that he can’t hit a ball harder.

    • snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:01 pm

      Giants first base coach Billy Hayes asleep at the switch…

  40. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:00 pm

    Bochy couldn’t flip Posey in back of Pagan to PH there, Posey’s a DP risk more than Pagan…

  41. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:03 pm

    Unbelievable how Giants cannot seem to get runs across. Come on Aoki…

  42. willedav said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:04 pm

    Time to break a skid here. cbs says Aoki late innings 2-20.

    • willedav said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:11 pm

      and batting a powerful .235 at home, but who cares.

  43. Flavor said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:05 pm

    Fucking Pagan….and Aoki…..full count

  44. Flavor said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:05 pm

    Unreal. Yup, that how we do this shit bitches!!!!

  45. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    Great AB…

  46. Macdog said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:07 pm

    Aoki bails out Romo, Pagan and Arias.

  47. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:07 pm


  48. djloo27 said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:07 pm


  49. Macdog said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:08 pm


  50. djloo27 said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    Great fuckin’ win!!!!!!!

  51. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    How they can keep Duffy out of playing 3rd instead of McDoofus is beyond me…

  52. James said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    A comeback!!!

  53. Flavor said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    Listening on radio, Flemm goes “a walk wins it.” That’s what this pathetic offense has come to.
    But right on Matt Duffy! Didn’t even bother with shooting for the walk! Lol

    • snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:12 pm

      Surprised he didn’t wish for a hit batter…

  54. willedav said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    Yeah! Kid comes through.
    Nice patience by Aoki. Looked like Pagan swung at ball 4, Aoki didn’t.

  55. Bozo said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:09 pm

    Oh yeah, that’s what I’m talking about.
    Frying some fish.

    • Flavor said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:10 pm

      What’s good, Clown? You safe?

      • Bozo said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:28 pm

        Thanks for asking Flav, and yes, we are all good back here. We’ll probably get some 40 mph wind and more rain later tonight, but the gulf stream isn’t warm enough for anything serious (at least the last I saw on the NOAA web site). I was pissed when I was in NOLA and heard we had a named storm already heading our way, fucking Weather Channel probably names my farts now and will have Jim Cantore broadcasting from my ass one of these days. Anyway, thanks again for asking but we really aren’t expecting much, maybe they should have named the storm, Arias.

      • Flavor said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:34 pm

        great to hear. I was thinking about ya.
        It’s the same old same old here. 70 degrees, a little bit of a breeze. Gets tiresome after a while. Until I hear about what you guys go through in other parts of the country. And I know it’s not comparable, but my buddy in Colorado is pissed to shit that it’s SNOWING there this week. I find that hilarious.

  56. willedav said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:09 pm

    And as Amy swings into action the mute button is activated.

  57. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    Yep, Aoki knows a situational AB when he’s in one. Guy has a good eye, doesn’t swing at crap, knows the zone. What a concept…

  58. alleykat69 said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    Oh HELL YES!!!!!
    Duffster my man !!!
    Kat brings home a WINNER!!!

  59. Carstie Clausen said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    This had to be the most satisfying outcome of the season to date. Bottom of the 9th and the bases loaded and all that was needed was a single, single. Was wondering why Bochy chose to bat the Duffster second. Know i know.

  60. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    Kat gets the job done — nice work!
    What’s the record so far this season when Flappers are at the Park — must be pretty dang good…

  61. djloo27 said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    First time I ever saw Duffy crack a smile…

  62. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:17 pm

    Maybe this Giants scoring like they’ve got an intestinal blockage is just perfect the way it is. They know how to win these knee knocking, digitalis-taking games. It’s no big deal. Let the other guys F it up is just the way to go, as they’ve proved time and time again, and in the playoffs in spades. Screw scoring a lot of runs…

    • djloo27 said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:20 pm

      It’s like they’re playing blackjack and letting the dealer break…

  63. James said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:19 pm

    BF, I know you’re tired of the excuses, but Blanco hit two balls today that go out of most yards. The offensive numbers will pick up when they start playing out side of SD, LA, and SF.

    • Flavor said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:30 pm

      that’s true, but all of our pitchers and most savvy visiting pitchers (with Latos sadly fitting into that category) pitch to that part of the yard. They are trying to get the hitter to send the ball there based on the pitch they throw. They are designing that the ball go there, dig? Thus, they could care less how far they hit it (as long as it stays in the yard).
      We’ll see if our guys are hitting monster bombs to right center when they go to new parks. My guess is that it isn’t going to happen…….

    • snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:35 pm

      Blanco, with that speed, and LHed, should be hitting line drives, grounders, and slapping to LF, like Aoki. He isn’t McCovey or Bonds that can pound balls out to right beyond the wall at Yellowstone Park. He hasn’t learned that by now, and apparently never will, and apparently nobody can make him get smart about it, either…

  64. willedav said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    I said top of thread Bochy gets credit for getting Blanco Susac Duff in there and all of them helped big time to get the W, along with the unfathomable Vogs.
    I was listening to pre game with Kuip and Bochy and he said Craw pagan and Posey were dinged up and needed the days off.
    Kuip said that a W would be big and make the homestand 7-3. Nicely done!

  65. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:32 pm

    I looked at that throw out at home in top of 9th on highlights. Weird that Butler sent Yelich home. He was out by 15′, with a not great throw by Maxwell…

  66. giants54 said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:34 pm

    Their 2nd comeback of the war and it’s another 3-2. Duffy has to be starting Tuesday.

  67. Flavor said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:37 pm

    this is what The Bowker Gang does to you if you cross them:

    • snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:40 pm

      I will NEVER understand this walk off celebration crap — they all do it.
      Hey, let’s jump up and down, beat each other, and see if we can get somebody on the DL!…

      • Flavor said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:48 pm

        it’s unreal. And the other celebration, that half-jumpy group bullshit is pointless. Just go high five the fucking guy. Is that so hard to do?

  68. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:37 pm

    Sadly, that’s the last time that we’ll likely see Ichiro play at ATT.
    Great player in his twilight. First ballot HOFer, unless the BBWAA idiots vote otherwise…

  69. Flavor said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:47 pm

    And by the way, what a job Voggy did today. He came up massive considering how he looked in LA. This guy has more lives than any cat I know……

  70. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    Where’s blade?
    He must be snowed into his living room, can’t reach the computer…

  71. snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 4:58 pm

    Ichiro now with 4324 hits all time, in Japan (9 seasons) and MLB (15th season now). 2868 hits in MLB. Aggregate career BA .317. Great deke out there today, in a Park he’s barely played in — that’s a ballplayer folks…

    • Flavor said, on May 10, 2015 at 5:11 pm

      I have been a big proponent of bringing him to SF over the last year and half because I am CONVINCED that even at this stage of his career he would make good use of triples alley. Might even be able to teach Blanco a thing or two. Of course his presence might have meant the end of Blanco.
      But whatever, it never worked out. We’ll never know what he could have done playing in this park that was, frankly, built for him……..

      • willedav said, on May 10, 2015 at 6:46 pm

        Imagine what he would have done on those AstroTurf fields in NL in the 80s-90s. Might have cracked .400.

  72. Carstie Clausen said, on May 10, 2015 at 5:10 pm

    Today’s contest may not have entirely laid the Fish in town hex, but it did keep it from continuing to metastasize. Betcha nobody but nobody predicted Hudson would get rapped and Bumgarner never quite would get it together, but Timmy and Vogie would come through like total studs. Well, that’s our Rotation.

    BTW: Who leads the staff in victories to date? Santiago Casilla with 4 wins is not that far off the NL leader board. Timmy with three is his closest competitor.

    • djloo27 said, on May 10, 2015 at 5:14 pm

      Like Machi last year…

  73. xoot said, on May 10, 2015 at 5:23 pm

    I had to work most of the day, so I only saw the 7th inning on. Great finish. I understand that the Giants got a run in the 6th after Aoki stole 2B, went to 3B on a ground out, and came home on a single. Without the SB, he’d’ve likely never made it past 2B, right? Could’ve been erased on a FC on the ground out (although I realize that’s entirely speculative–who knows how things would’ve played out overall if he’d stayed at first). In any event, nice work, Aoki-san. KC’s SB numbers are good this year, but not like last year’s. They miss Aoki, apparently. Meanwhile, his SF WAR looks like it will just keep ratcheting up.

    • Flavor said, on May 10, 2015 at 5:42 pm

      Blanco should watch Aoki play and do more of what he does. But who knows, maybe Blanco is what he is. No changing him, this is the only way he knows how to play or can play.

      • sandog said, on May 10, 2015 at 6:34 pm

        You got it right in the last part of your post. Blanco ain’t changing, dude. I’ve long since accepted that he is what he is and he is going to try to splash one every time he’s up there.

        I was a little distracted watching the golf, but Ichiro’s deke sounded awesome on the radio. Did he carry out the fake so fully that another outfielder had to come over and get the ball? I need to look for the highlights.

        WillieD: I have a great solution to your issue with being concerned about Flemming and Kuiper having good Chemistry together—tell Kuip to take a hike once his contract is up!!!!

    • James said, on May 10, 2015 at 6:44 pm

      Belt was also thrown out on another failed hit and run today.

      The weighted SB stat attempts to quantify how many extra runs a team scores over a season as a result of successful steals versus lost scoring opportunities that result from outs on the bases:



      • xoot said, on May 10, 2015 at 6:59 pm

        I read that fangraphs article earlier today, while researching the value of the stolen base. Doesn’t the guy say, essentially, that a base stealer over a season breaks even if he steals twice as many as he’s caught stealing? So someone like Aoki, who’s 9/2 right now, is doing better than breaking even, and is thus racking up the “stolen base runs”? Well, in any event, he did so today.

      • James said, on May 10, 2015 at 7:15 pm

        Yes, if the entire team had that ratio, that would be a good thing. If you look at the actual stat, you’ll see that the extra runs created even by successful running teams like the Royals is a pretty modest total. For most teams, it is of no practical value over a season.

        Belt drove in Aoki from third with two outs after the steal. Ironically, the probability of Aoki scoring was lower in that situation than when Aoki was on first with no outs.

      • xoot said, on May 10, 2015 at 7:30 pm

        But Aoki got into scoring position, at 2B, with less than two outs, by stealing the bag. I’m pretty sure the chances of scoring from 2B with one out are better than scoring from 1B with one out. But I’m not a stat guy, so maybe I’m overlooking something.

      • James said, on May 10, 2015 at 7:42 pm

        Yes, that’s right, but as it turned out, after the gambit that worked initially, they eventually found themselves in a worse position than they started with when Aoki was on first, that is until Brandon “Ant Small” Belt delivered the hit.

    • willedav said, on May 10, 2015 at 6:52 pm

      Aoki last year didn’t steal any more bags than Blanco did, 17 I think, despite being a regular..
      Which is curious because his OB was still really high.

      That’s what is so weird about this guy—his first season with Brewers to last year, almost all his numbers declined, including steals. With Brewers he stole 30, last year less than 60% of that despite getting on base a lot. And naturally, HRs dropped from 10 down to 1.

      Did you see that weird basket catch he made? Strange guy. Just wonder if there was a little too much weirdness, like the way he misplayed that ball in WS, for the Royals to want him back.

      • xoot said, on May 10, 2015 at 7:20 pm

        The Royals also didn’t let Aoki play in SF during the WS (giving him one inning or something, I think–but they treated Butler the same way). Nonetheless, it looks like he’s ready to be the leadoff hitter and “stolen base runs” leader for the Giants. Big question, I suppose is who will be the 4 and who the 5 when Pence returns?

  74. Macdog said, on May 10, 2015 at 6:18 pm

    I found out tonight the Poughkeepsie Journal does a weekly Joe Panik update. Today’s entry:


    • blade3colorado said, on May 10, 2015 at 6:36 pm

      Poughkeepsie? “Picking your feet in Poughkeepsie.” First time I heard the name of this city was in the French Connection. Everyone in the theater was laughing at this scene. 🙂

      • djloo27 said, on May 10, 2015 at 7:11 pm

        Sonuvabitch can motor!

      • snarkk said, on May 10, 2015 at 10:15 pm

        Hackman was great in that flick.
        Awesome car chase scene in it — chasing the subway train from underneath the elevated line.
        Friedkin did some cool movies — this one, Exorcist, To Live and Die in LA…

    • pawliekokonuts said, on May 10, 2015 at 8:42 pm

      Dennis Z., who lives not real far away, knew some people Panik knew, when they chatted at the trophy event in Manhattan.

  75. pawliekokonuts said, on May 10, 2015 at 8:40 pm

    Just checking in. Back home. Pleasant time with my mom, now 98. More honestly, more “present” than “pleasant” in that I am eternally grateful to have been with her, but life is sure fraying around the edges, let me tell you. Also, thanks for all of the good wishes for my daughter; missed some yesterday; was offline. And I just found out what a wacky win the G-men got. G’night, girls.

    • Macdog said, on May 10, 2015 at 8:50 pm

      Sending belated well wishes and a full recovery for your daughter. Such a tough break, unfortunately as others here noted, knee injuries are all too common in girls sports.

      • zumiee said, on May 10, 2015 at 8:53 pm

        From me, too, Pawlie, best wishes to your daughter.

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