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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 1, 2015

I think back to that late April evening at Chavez Latrine and it still makes me shudder. Even quiver. Bomb after bomb, launched into orbit off Voggy—to be forever tracked by NASA’s most powerful satellites……

And yet here with are, with yet another Voggy reclamation project that he performed on himself. Again.

As usual, it feels like he’s going to get blasted tonight.

But who knows? He’s been so good for 5 straight starts, I’m starting to believe in him again……

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  1. chipower9 said, on June 1, 2015 at 3:16 pm

    Yeah, I thought he was done after his first couple of starts this year, but I think he may be able to keep this mojo going. Let’s go VogelStrong!

  2. Carstie Clausen said, on June 1, 2015 at 3:17 pm

    I’m not extremely concerned about Pittsburgh’s offense. But they are throwing 3 nasty pitchers at us in this series. Now that we are into swoon month, it’s gonna be important to cut them off at the pass. That loss to the Braves yesterday hurt a bunch,. Hoping the guys have psychologically recovered and can somehow take two of three in this series. Personally, the hope is that we pull one chestnut outta the fire anyway. No way do i see SF getting a sweep in this series, what with the pitching matchup.

  3. chipower9 said, on June 1, 2015 at 3:20 pm

    Posted this kind of late on the last thead, so not sure how many saw it.

    Question – how comfortable are you with Casilla’s performance as our closer?

    Current 2.82 ERA and 1.478 WHIP.

    Splits (WHIP):
    Last 7 days: 2.455
    Last 14 days: 2.143
    Last 28 days: 1.655

    So it wasn’t just yesterday’s game that blew-up his WHIP.

    I just have not been impressed with him. I do NOT get a sence when he comes in of “OK, we have this shit nailed down.”

    Seriously, I would like to see a platoon of Casilla and Romo right now.

    And I believe Strickland is closing before the end of the season (maybe not as the outright closer, but getting opportunities).

    Thoughts?

    • tomthebeekeeper said, on June 1, 2015 at 3:27 pm

      …I’M THINKIN’ Strickland may need [or WE may need] to gain a bit more confidence in his secondary pitches, which are, from what we’ve seen stat-wise since the first of the year, much improved over last year… it’s always nice to have someone throwin’ 97 at the end of the game…

  4. dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 1, 2015 at 3:29 pm

    chi, I really like Casilla but he can go bad real quick. I tend to agree with you that Strickland will take over the role eventually. Probably by the end of July. Especially if he keeps stringing together good outings.

  5. blade3colorado said, on June 1, 2015 at 3:35 pm

    “I’m not extremely concerned about Pittsburgh’s offense.” Dunno about that Stix . . .

    Harrison is slugging .515 and hitting .311 (52-for-167) against other below average right-handers in the last two years; Polanco is batting .299 in his last 77 AB’s against below average right-handers like Vogelsong in the last two years; McCutchen is slugging .630 against other righties who rely heavily on the cutter (as does Vogelsong); Walker is slugging .688 and hitting .438 (7-for-16) against Vogelsong in their last 16 head-to-head PA’s; Marte is slugging .496 and hitting .311 (82-for-264) against other below average right-handers in the last two years; and Alvarez is slugging .556 and hitting .333 (6-for-18) against righties who rely heavily on the cutter like Vogelsong in the last two years.

    Me? Not worried, but as Flavor said – Voggy could really get lit up tonight. Great equalizer is the Phone park of course. Hopefully, any bombs stop short of the wall.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on June 1, 2015 at 6:53 pm

      Blade: Hadn’t checked up on the Buccos lately except for the pitching. My info must have been a few weeks old on their offense.

  6. Flavor said, on June 1, 2015 at 3:41 pm

    if MLB (and NBA) are going to have financial relationships with FD and DK they should require that line ups get submitted early. At least earlier than they get submitted. It’s silly that I have to keep refreshing the rotowire website in the hopes that the Braves will get their line up in before FD line ups lock in the next 20 min. Their game starts at 6:40. Almost all of the 7pm+ line ups have already been submitted. And if they wait on submitting it due to concerns over whether a player can go or not they would be required to submit, in writing, the reasons their lineup was late. There is just WAY too much money on the line for teams to be casually submitting a LU whenever they want. And again, since there IS this new, growing financial partnership between mlb and DFS, I think this has to get addressed……

    • Flavor said, on June 1, 2015 at 3:45 pm

      ok! Braves LU is up! We are gooooood to go baby! But my comments above still stand.

    • wilcojoe said, on June 1, 2015 at 5:51 pm

      Completely agree. As I mentioned earlier, why the hell can’t they text and or email us alerts as soon as lineup changes affect our lineups. If I have to sit thru a 30 second add to find out that Josh Hamilton isn’t in the lineup (I got burned on that yesterday) so fucking be it.

  7. unca_chuck said, on June 1, 2015 at 5:13 pm

    When waiting for the other shoe to drop, it eventually does. Vogie is smoke and mirrors. Like Tom Tim if the if the Pitches are up, the numbers are crooked.

    Casilla had earned leeway, but not McDeepee leeway.

    • Flavor said, on June 1, 2015 at 5:34 pm

      To me, Casilla has earned a shit load of leeway. Romo? Do you guys remember how bad he got that Casilla got put back in the closer role? And I love Strickland, I’ve been the unwavering lone wolf on that cat. But not now. And I don’t have it in front of me, driving, but what is Casilla’s save % since he took back over the role?

      • Flavor said, on June 1, 2015 at 5:35 pm

        And when I say “not now” I mean “not quite yet.” But Strick’s time is gonna come

      • djloo27 said, on June 1, 2015 at 5:48 pm

        Very underrated Zeppelin song. Sorry, Flav, I know you hate this shit…

      • chipower9 said, on June 2, 2015 at 7:45 am

        Flav – you are “One” of the unwaivering lone wolves. I was supportive of him last year when he was giving up the long balls in the playoffs. I said the kid has the stuff…he just needs some time. I have always been supportive of the dude.

  8. blade3colorado said, on June 1, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    Led Zep is probably one of my top 3 bands . . . Consequently, I was crushed when I found out they “stole” or didn’t give proper attribution to various composers of their songs. Here is one site that says they stole 7 songs. I’ve seen other sites that says it’s more . . . Not certain about Your Time Is Gonna Come. I agree, a very underrated song.

    http://www.musictimes.com/articles/6250/20140520/7-songs-other-than-stairway-to-heaven-that-led-zeppelin-stole.htm

    • xoot said, on June 1, 2015 at 7:09 pm

      Willie Dixon successfully sued their butts. Of course, Willie Dixon didn’t really write all the songs he wrote, as Yogi Berra might put it. A lot of his stuff was rearranged Delta blues, etc. But Willie Dixon made sure all the blues people involved in electrifying the blues got paid. Dixon was a boxer originally, big guy, worked for a while as Joe Louis’s sparring partner. Then he got smart.

    • James said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:11 pm

      The ironic thing is that Zep sued to stop this:

      • xoot said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:15 pm

        I”m not sure that’s ironic, but it was stupid. Those guys from Davis were great; that parody was great.

      • James said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:20 pm

        Yep, stupid is a lot more apt.

    • alleykat69 said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:13 pm

      Loo, you can rock the best rock band ever anytime.
      Had the pleasure to see them live 3 times and every show was awesome.
      Kezar Stadium 1973 was one hell of a show. Opening act was “The Tubes” and they came out tossing pills and White Powder substance from the stage as they lead into their song “White Punks on Dope”!! It was a trip to say the least..

      • djloo27 said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:30 pm

        Anyone remember this?

  9. alleykat69 said, on June 1, 2015 at 5:58 pm

    Chi,
    I’m more comfortable with Casilla then I ever was with Armando Beneitz(sp?) of course most flappers would agree on that one.
    Casilla gets a little more rope, but the noose is tightening. And if Strickland continues with great control and gopher free ball,yes I can see a change toward the end of July maybe a deadline trade of the aging .
    They could package Machi as well for all I care, the dude stinks!!

  10. blade3colorado said, on June 1, 2015 at 6:11 pm

    Watching the hapless Rockies against the Dodgers. Sheesh, Kendrick is their big free agent signing. Hello? Hello? Did I lose you? Where was I? Oh yeah, even Kershaw got a hit off of this gas can. Believe me, I only watch them because I usually have at least one DFS “stack” going against one of their pitchers. Right now, Ethier and Rollins have bombs. Plenty more to come . . .

  11. giants54 said, on June 1, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    “I’m more comfortable with Casilla then I ever was with Armando Beneitz(sp?)”

    Isn’t that kinda like saying he was a much more pleasant fellow than that dude Stalin? 😉

  12. sandog said, on June 1, 2015 at 6:48 pm

    Casilla is 34 for his last 38, including yesterday.

  13. pawliekokonuts said, on June 1, 2015 at 7:01 pm

    Should be a revealing series; both clubs have been hot as of late.

  14. pawliekokonuts said, on June 1, 2015 at 7:09 pm

    I catch ESPN radio now and then while driving around town. I’ll tell you what is sweet. Their promo, which plays this audio every hour or so locally at least: “And for the third time in five years the San Francisco Giants are World Champions.” Never gets old. How great it is going to be to hear: “And remarkably for the fourth time in six years the San Francisco Giants are the World Champions of baseball.”

  15. ewisco said, on June 1, 2015 at 7:10 pm

    We’re here at the game. Behind home plate a little to the left. Watching voggie warm up there’s no question I could hit him. I just don’t think my lucky whiffle bat would survive the experience.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on June 1, 2015 at 7:19 pm

      Wiffle Ball. American-invented and American-made, still (Connecticut). Can’t say that for too many things.

  16. giants54 said, on June 1, 2015 at 7:14 pm

    Bucs have been trouble for the G’s..

  17. ewisco said, on June 1, 2015 at 7:15 pm

    Voggie looks tiny in person.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on June 1, 2015 at 7:17 pm

      That’s what surprised me about all the players at my first game, in 1958, at Yankee Stadium, Whitey Ford vs. Billy Pierce.

      • djloo27 said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:14 pm

        Pierce sure was…

  18. sandog said, on June 1, 2015 at 7:34 pm

    Forget about Whitey getting a gig as a bullpen catcher—it amazes me that Chris Stewart is still getting a players check in the big leagues. Good for him.

    • Flavor said, on June 1, 2015 at 7:59 pm

      I mean, it’s nearly incomprehensible. At least El Presidente did something, even if was just hashtaggin’ his ass into wins. I also loved that bouncy fight weirdo thing he did in that game I can’t really remember.

      • djloo27 said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:04 pm

        It was the Shane Victorino incident…

      • xoot said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:10 pm

        protecting his pitcher, right? Catchers are valuable–although Stewart’s worthy for his D. What’s Hector worth?

      • xoot said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:14 pm

        had to look it up. Ramon Ramirez.

      • djloo27 said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:18 pm

        Forgot about him, Xoot.. Useful guy in 2010…

      • xoot said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:29 pm

        came over in one of those Neukom double deals–along with Javier Lopez, same day, different teams. something like that.

  19. Carstie Clausen said, on June 1, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    Aoki is now tied for 4th in stolen bases with an even dozen. Belt is also fourth ~in doubles~ with 16.

  20. pawliekokonuts said, on June 1, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    MLB.tv just showed Kevin Mitchell’s barehanded grab.

    • alleykat69 said, on June 1, 2015 at 7:59 pm

      Pawlie,
      That barehanded grab by Kevin Mitchell still amazes me today. To totally overrun a ball and reach back and still nonchalantly make that grab was sure special to watch,which I did ,watching that one at home on the boob tube..

  21. blade3colorado said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:01 pm

    Wow!

  22. Bozo said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:02 pm

    Hell of a play.

  23. pawliekokonuts said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    Pagan. Angelic play.

    • djloo27 said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:11 pm

      Made me think of Agee’s WS grab about 30 seconds in:

      I love how Gowdy calls him “Tom” Agee. The only time in his career that he wasn’t called “Tommie”
      It was the equivalent of saying “Will” Mays…

      • pawliekokonuts said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:17 pm

        The right-center catch may’ve been better than the first. He kinda runs like Mays.

      • willedav said, on June 1, 2015 at 10:11 pm

        Thx. what a cool player he was.
        Looks great in that Mets uni too.

  24. Carstie Clausen said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:14 pm

    Wondering whether Bochy will see fit to switch Pence and Belt in the lineup. The Reverend is currently batting .250 and hasn’t really locked in yet. He’s not a natural #3 anyway as he is the closest thing on the team to a hacker.

  25. pawliekokonuts said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:19 pm

    I would prefer the Bucs announcers not bring up 1971. How rude. We could mention 2014.

  26. djloo27 said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    Strike 2 on Pagan was an awful call but how could he take strike 3 right down the middle with an 0-2 count?

  27. alleykat69 said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:34 pm

    Way to gun down Stewart at 3rd Buster!
    Amazing he can even hit a double anyway..

  28. James said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    G. Cole is a real jerk.

    • giants54 said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:44 pm

      wasn’t he shagging Crawford’s sister?

      • James said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:55 pm

        That was the lighthearted storyline a couple of years ago.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:04 pm

        they are still dating, according to Bucs announcers

  29. giants54 said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    Bochy leaving himself open for some second guessing here….

  30. Bozo said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    Get dem runs back, Giants.

  31. xoot said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    I don’t quite understand how a guy who grew up in Newport Beach and who went to school at UCLA turns out like Garritt Cole. He acts like a guy from the piney woods who for some obscure reason owns a score to settle with rich folk from Calif. He is a rich folk from Calif.

    • djloo27 said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:58 pm

      Wasn’t Piney Woods Robert Deniro’s guitar playing back-up catcher in “Bang The Drum Slowly”?

      • djloo27 said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:02 pm

      • xoot said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:05 pm

        fer crissakes, I think every hillbilly from some place south west of the Appalachians is from the piney woods.

  32. ewisco said, on June 1, 2015 at 8:59 pm

    Still in tshirt. Rocking the 2010 ws champs shirt. Freaking beautiful night at the park.

  33. Lurker John said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    “Very underrated Zeppelin song.”

    Anything off the first album is underrated, imo.

  34. giants54 said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:03 pm

    Let’s go….beat this surf punk.

  35. djloo27 said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:05 pm

    Have they done something to curb the dangerous shattered bat epidemic of the past few years?
    Haven’t noticed ’em much this season…

  36. blade3colorado said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    Make this guy toast Belt.

  37. djloo27 said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    Miller on MLB radio is at least 15 seconds ahead of the TV broadcast.
    Why is that?

    • blade3colorado said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:12 pm

      Theory of relativity? Worm hole? String theory? Dunno . . .

  38. djloo27 said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    MOTHERFUCKER!

  39. blade3colorado said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    Are you shitting me? Nada?

  40. alleykat69 said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    What a screwed up inning that turned out to be..Baseloaded no outs no runs , just cannot happen…

  41. giants54 said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:20 pm

    Well, they made Cole work a little and now a quick shut down inning to get him right back out there. Pagan needs to get on.

  42. xoot said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    Aoki has his limits, but he’s damn good overall and he definitiely never gives up.

    • xoot said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:40 pm

      definitiVely . . . how do you get the rhythm and consonance right otherwise?

  43. alleykat69 said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    How the hell can Chris Stewart have 3 doubles?
    He couldn’t hit out of a paper bag with us,,

    • xoot said, on June 1, 2015 at 10:03 pm

      After a Sunday game, while killing time to let the crowd thin out, I watched Chris Stewart run his toddler around the IF bases along with all the other kids from the stands. (My older son still has a plastic baggie of the IF dirt he scooped up when he made that run about age 5.) It was moving to see a Giants player, in his uni, out there with the other kids. Not earth shaking, but still — he struck me as a pretty good guy.

    • willedav said, on June 1, 2015 at 10:14 pm

      Funny thing is, according to Miller, he was the guy giants gave up to get Kontos.

      • xoot said, on June 1, 2015 at 10:37 pm

        not funny at all. catchers are valuable. stewart wound up starting for the yankers for a while.

  44. xoot said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:54 pm

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga3E-70u4g0

  45. blade3colorado said, on June 1, 2015 at 9:58 pm

    Zumiee is prohibited from attending games for 30 days. 🙂

  46. djloo27 said, on June 1, 2015 at 10:02 pm

    As good a bounce back year as Pagan is having, the XBH and SB are clearly missing…

  47. Bozo said, on June 1, 2015 at 10:02 pm

    I know after the catch that Pagan made that this is kind of fucked up, but man I found myself wishing that Morse was on deck when Crawford was up in the ninth. Sometimes I miss the Beast.

  48. xoot said, on June 1, 2015 at 10:07 pm

    Morse was a one year plug; so is Aoki. Morse did his job; so far so has Aoki. What’s the beef?

    • Bozo said, on June 2, 2015 at 5:54 am

      No beef xoot. I don’t miss Morse in the OF but sometimes I do miss seeing him in the on deck circle, and that was one of those times. I haven’t complained about Aoki at all this year, so I’m not sure what that is about (both played LF I guess).

  49. unca_chuck said, on June 1, 2015 at 10:16 pm

    Speaking of Zepplin (nothing they did was underrated except for the entire Physical Grafitti album minus Kashmir) we saw Robert Plant in Napa at the Bottle Rock thing.

    Total 70s flashback as he did about around 10 Led Zep songs among some of his newer stuff (Spoonful was very good). Very cool. He sang pretty damn well for how old he is.

    He opened with the Wanton Song. How’s that for underrated?

    I’d post the video I took at the show, but the sound is awful as we were up front and the bass blows everything out.

    They did a great blues version of whole lotta love. I now they stole the Lemon Song from whoever wrote Killing Floor.

  50. Macdog said, on June 1, 2015 at 11:01 pm

    I dig Zeppelin too, though never saw them live. But yes, they did rip off plenty of songs. I have a 16-song CD devoted to just that: Led Astray — The folk and blues roots of Page & Plant.

  51. zumiee said, on June 2, 2015 at 12:18 am

    The last three games….

    • wilcojoe said, on June 2, 2015 at 5:48 am

      That’s great Zum! Where do you find these?

  52. chipower9 said, on June 2, 2015 at 8:00 am

    To those who commented, thanks for the feedback on Casilla and our closing situation. I know his save rate has been good over the years, but I just am not digging him of late. He has not had the killer instict. The way his WHIP has balooned over the last month or so, I just would not be opposed to seeing Romo get some save opps. And I agree, Strickland will eventually be the man, but I don’t expect that to happen until at least July or August.

    What a fucked-up game. The ump was anything BUT consistent. But ya can’t really hang this on him. Vogey had the melt-down inning, and the Giants had their chances with the bases juiced and could not score.

    Erase, delete, rewind and go get ’em today!

  53. unca_chuck said, on June 2, 2015 at 8:07 am

    Errors were pretty costly as well.


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