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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 12, 2015

In case you missed it, the Giants are none to pleased with the Mets scheduling an evening game yesterday. Of course, there’s no way you could have missed that. The Giants have been non-stop whining about it for going on 3 days. They say they’re complaining about it so mlb will change the way scheduling is done but my understanding is that’s something bargained between the players association and the owners. So what exactly do the Giants get out of boo-hooing to the press about this?

Will they be flat tonight? Every time we think that’s going to happen, it doesn’t. If they’re flat it’s probably got more to do with the ballpark than anything else. The Giants should focus their attention on the home field advantage they have instead of an unfortunate scheduling issue that hits all teams at least once a year……..


also, how is Kevin Correia starting for the Phillies tonight? Did I just have a bad dream that he was in our minor league system?

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  1. dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 12, 2015 at 9:11 am

    • Bozo said, on June 12, 2015 at 9:30 am

      Good one, Dirt.

    • chipower9 said, on June 12, 2015 at 10:24 am

      Bahaha…very good.

  2. Bozo said, on June 12, 2015 at 9:36 am

    So I’m guessing Arias, McGehee and Parker will be starting today. Maybe Susac gets two in a row.
    We will probably win by six runs.

  3. chipower9 said, on June 12, 2015 at 10:33 am

    Near the end of the last thread, WillieD mentioned some of the starters (Timmy and Hudson) not going deep in their starts (5 or so innings) and wondering if the Giants might “dump off” a reliever or two and bring up a couple of guys from Sacto.

    I get it with Timmy and Hudson not going deep in games, but I just do not see them optioning a current pen guy to Sac and bringing up a young guy. Plus, you get into the whole thing about options, etc. Really, who would you send down? And, I am not sure anyone is ready to come up.

    Perhaps (as I mentioned a few threads back) the only lefty who would be ready (as a reliever) would be Okert, and he isn’t exactly lighting the world on fire (4.33/1.407 ERA/WHIP). The guy with the best numbers of the Sactown RH relievers is a guy I am not that familiar with, Michael Broadway (26.2 IP, 1.35//0.825). And again, I don’t see them jettisoning any of the current guys…yep, even Affeldt even though he has struggled overall of late.

    • Irish Kevin said, on June 12, 2015 at 12:06 pm

      Well you just don’t know what a young player will bring. Look at Crawford and Panik. Both of those guys were brought up due to a lack of other options. How many guys tried 2nd base last year?? So I say give the young bucks a chance. Oh and Heston(?) is another example!!

      • chipower9 said, on June 12, 2015 at 12:35 pm

        Kev –

        WillieD was specifically talking about relievers (since a few of our starters have a hard time making it out of the 5th inning). So, who the hell do you send down (if possible) or release, so that you can bring up a young reliever? I mentioned the two I think are the closest to being ready.

        My feelings are that the bullpen, while getting a bit too much work, is still doing a pretty damned good job. I don’t like the idea of swapping guys with solid ML experience, and pretty defined roles for young guys who have no ML experience. That’s just me in this situation (when talking relievers).

        On a separate note…Pagan…you know, that old guy who is broken-down and hurt all the time…he has played in 58 of the Giants 61 games this year. 42 to go…get ready to pay up, suckah. 😉

      • Irish Kevin said, on June 12, 2015 at 12:48 pm

        Ha ha yep, bad call on Pagan. And even though I talk sh!t about him, I never wish an injury on any player. I hope he goes 142 games!! I will gladly pay up!! I am going to try and go to the River Cats game on Monday to watch Cain, let me know if you go.

      • chipower9 said, on June 12, 2015 at 1:56 pm

        Yep…I am probably going to that game. You bought tix yet?

  4. chipower9 said, on June 12, 2015 at 10:40 am

    Well, you can say all ya want about the Mets scheduling, but I do believe there is a bit of two standards going on here. Jon Miller yesterday said when the 7 o’clock start was mentioned for the final game, the Mets said that they just cannot sell as many tickets to a day game as a night game.

    Okay, so tell me how that works when the Mets finish a home stand against the Cubbies (end of June/beginning of July), and the get-away game is scheduled for 1:10 (when, of course, the Mets will be hitting the road). Hmmmm…thought that they had a problem with selling tix for day games vs. night games.

    There is a ton of this kind of shit that goes on with scheduling. Either do something about it, so that all teams schedule under the same parameters, or just know that some teams will take advantage of the situation (like the Mets…and the bums also pull the same shenanigans, too). The Giants? They almost always schedule the get-away game at home as a day game.

    • Bozo said, on June 12, 2015 at 2:35 pm

      I don’t think Sandy Alderson is a big fan of SF, so if he had any say in the scheduling…

  5. dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 12, 2015 at 12:02 pm

    Starting with the Posey/Cousins collision in 2011 Bochy has been more vocal on issues revolving around things like rules, schedule etc. I don’t see anything wrong with him voicing his opinion here. As mentioned above, the Giants seem to make accommodations for other clubs without issue. Its not unreasonable to expect the same.

  6. chipower9 said, on June 12, 2015 at 12:02 pm

    Some of you may have seen this, but I thought this was a good read on how the Warriors made the necessary adjustments to take out the Cavs in game four, and the suprise on where the idea (for the line-up change) originated.

  7. chipower9 said, on June 12, 2015 at 12:37 pm

    Complete listing of the Giants draft picks.


    And while a bunch of these guys are probably going to be busts…there are guys like Romo (28th round pick) who make it to the show. Ya just never know…

  8. alleykat69 said, on June 12, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    The Giants are more then helpful to other teams on getaway day games. I say screw that in the future for East Coast teams like NY and Washington they don’t do us in favors( Fuck them) Washington is doing the same shit as the Mets with a night game. Matter of fact Seattle’s doing the same thing to us coming up even though it’s a west coast thing ( Fuck them too) “From Alice Cooper… No more Mr. Nice Guy..

    • djloo27 said, on June 12, 2015 at 2:13 pm

      Billion Dollar Babies is one of the greatest albums ever, Kat…

      • chipower9 said, on June 12, 2015 at 2:35 pm

        Kick ass album.

      • alleykat69 said, on June 12, 2015 at 4:17 pm

        Agree Loo!!
        Think I’m gonna spin it tonight before the Giants game..

      • djloo27 said, on June 12, 2015 at 6:49 pm

        I have other uses for you, darling…

      • unca_chuck said, on June 13, 2015 at 8:37 am


    • ewisco said, on June 12, 2015 at 8:26 pm

      apparently it’s in the union contract that west coast games must start early as they face a negative 3 hr time change. there is nothing about going west. bias? I leave that as an exercise to the reader.

  9. chipower9 said, on June 12, 2015 at 2:35 pm

    Pence to the DL, retro to June 3rd. Michael Broadstreet (RH reliever from Sacto) gets the call.

  10. xoot said, on June 12, 2015 at 2:37 pm

    Saw a note that game-time temp last night was 91 degrees. Can that be right? A day game wouldn’t’ve been much fun in that Citi steam. Lincecum melted down about on schedule, I guess. This evening should be perfect at China Basin. Speaking of NY, I see there’s a big new book out about Norman Mailer and William F. Buckley. (The Difficult Friendship, Kevin Schultz.) Hilarious story about Buckley sending Mailer a copy of Buckley’s book on the ’65 NY mayoral race. Buckley, knowing the ego he was dealing with, hand-wrote the word “Hi!” next to Mailer’s name in the index (a tale well-reported by someone named Larry King in Harper’s in 1967, according to end note 27 in TDF). Who’re [sorry] the most prominent public intellectuals involved in NY politics today? Bill and Hillary? Bet neither would go a round with Mailer.

    • djloo27 said, on June 12, 2015 at 7:04 pm

      It was hot and very humid, but no way it was 91 degrees at game time, Xoot. Maybe that was the dumb ass T.H.I. thing that weatherman throw out there. (Temperature Humidity Index)

      • xoot said, on June 12, 2015 at 8:34 pm

        BB Ref says 91 at game time, too. But the rest of NY topped out lower than that during the day, apparently. I’ll take definitely take the scout’s opinion over the stats on that one.

      • xoot said, on June 12, 2015 at 8:35 pm

        BWare posting from your phone 🙂

  11. chipower9 said, on June 12, 2015 at 2:46 pm

    Based on one of Flavor’s threads back a week or so ago…I could not resist…


    • blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2015 at 3:46 pm

      At least this dude is trying to be funny.

  12. blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2015 at 5:38 pm

    Unfrickingbelievable – King Felix just spotted the ‘stros an 8 run lead in .1 innings of work. lqtm.

    • wilcojoe said, on June 12, 2015 at 5:47 pm

      Well it was only 8 runs Steve, you don’t have to rub it in. ;). That is the last time I ever pick Felix Fucking Hernandez. The Houston bats have been asleep for a week and then they do this. Ridiculous.

      • blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2015 at 5:49 pm

        Yeah, no idea how I transposed the 11 . . . I guess the fireworks display Houston put up, blinded me. Ha. 🙂

  13. chipower9 said, on June 12, 2015 at 5:59 pm

    Fuck…looks like for those of us in the Sacramento area no Giants on the boob tube tonight. NBC Bay Area, only. That smokes the pink pony big time.

    • blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2015 at 6:15 pm

      Do not download any viewers or anything else. Popup windows will come up – just close them. Occasionally the “X” will move . . . It’s in HD usually. Enjoy!


  14. djloo27 said, on June 12, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    The guy they brought up is named Broadway not Broadstreet.
    I worked at 120 Broadway and 50 Broad Street so it’s all the same to me.

  15. willedav said, on June 12, 2015 at 7:17 pm

    Chi, Machi after much suckitude, got the mysterious groin pull that likely will never heal until he is DFA’d or put on waivers. If the Giants thought it would help Affeldt that might not be a bad move.
    Once Cain really does come back, Vogs has to go as the new Machi.
    Petit has been less than impressive so far.
    I have a feeling if Strick shows anything and has fewer meltdowns like last night, Romo is not long for the team either. Ton of teams could use him, at least as a set up guy, and he has closed too. The Pads are using freaking Gregerson, who isn’t even a good set up guy anymore.

    ERAs for guys in the Coast League are just as suspect as the BAs are for hitters.

    • willedav said, on June 12, 2015 at 7:25 pm

      Stros I mean about Gregerson as closer. Their pen has to get a lot better to contend in that division.

    • djloo27 said, on June 12, 2015 at 7:25 pm

      See your point, Willie, but mixed feelings about dealing Romo.
      He’s so battle tested and fearless (like Casilla). He’s also signed for $8 million next year…

      • willedav said, on June 12, 2015 at 7:47 pm

        Loo, since you were there what did you think of him yesterday? Was walking Duda a good move? Cuddyer is a pretty good hitter; Romo still seems to have problems with LHs.

        Also were you able to see the passed ball on Susac? That was a critical play in 9th. I’ve heard grumbling about his (lack of) defense lately.

      • djloo27 said, on June 12, 2015 at 8:16 pm

        From my angle I thought it was a PB, but never saw a replay. I remember saying to the guy next to me that they would probably bring in a lefty to face Duda. Of course I was quite loaded at the time…

  16. willedav said, on June 12, 2015 at 7:21 pm

    Wow, ownage be ownage. This guy sure likes this park.
    Glad to see Funky Broadway up…might eventually be worth making room for some of these guys.

  17. zumiee said, on June 12, 2015 at 7:24 pm

    Game is on channel 31 in the Nor. Central Valley.

  18. zumiee said, on June 12, 2015 at 7:27 pm

    Hey, this is the first time I’ve ever posted here from my phone!

  19. djloo27 said, on June 12, 2015 at 7:38 pm

    The Giants orange Friday home uniforms always remind me of these:

    • ewisco said, on June 12, 2015 at 8:35 pm

      lord I loved those. the hardest thing in the world when I was younger was trying to figure out which ice cream I wanted.

      well, and paying for it.

  20. snarkk said, on June 12, 2015 at 7:41 pm

    Guys whining about travel in a charter jet with great food and personal stews get zero sympathy from me. Kruk and kuip have been the worst whiners on KNBR — it must ruin their cocktail schedule…

    • ewisco said, on June 12, 2015 at 8:38 pm

      they are. there is nothing worse in my mind but having people who are paid hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars a year whining about something I watch for free, or pay MONEY to actually go to the game, and I have to get up at 0:500 to go to work. eat me is the best I can frame it.

  21. snarkk said, on June 12, 2015 at 8:00 pm

    So Correia is one of the best 150 starters in the world? How do guys like him keep getting mlb jobs?…

  22. Macdog said, on June 12, 2015 at 8:00 pm

    Maybe the Giants should’ve kept Correia, if nothing else than to pitch against the Pirates: 5 2/3 scoreless innings tonight at Pittsburgh.

  23. snarkk said, on June 12, 2015 at 8:08 pm

    Pardon me but I’ve always thought getting your shirt nicked by the ball = getting hit by it is BS…

  24. sandog said, on June 12, 2015 at 8:26 pm

    Loo: When I was a little kid in San Luis Obispo and we had a full house, my mom used to buy big boxes of those 50/50 popsicles and keep them in an old-school freezer in the garage with the lift-up style door. I can still picture that sucker right now. My oldest brother likes to tell the story of him coming home one day when I was like 6 and I had somehow climbed into that freezer (he claims I was in the actual freezer) distributing 50/50 bars to several of my neighborhood buddies. Those things were awesome.

    • djloo27 said, on June 12, 2015 at 8:31 pm

      They were always my favorite, Dog. Still love ’em. Ten thousand years ago when I was a kid they were called “Humorettes”. The Good Humor Man sold them for about 15 cents. If you let him molest you, they were a nickel…

  25. djloo27 said, on June 12, 2015 at 8:26 pm

    Pence or no Pence, they gotta get the frigid Angel out of the 3 hole…

  26. ewisco said, on June 12, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    no hitter? seriously?

  27. zumiee said, on June 12, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    Sandoval hit an HR, and….the Red Sox lost.

    • djloo27 said, on June 12, 2015 at 9:16 pm

      I wonder if he’s hit one over the Green Monster yet…

  28. Macdog said, on June 12, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    A hit!

  29. willedav said, on June 12, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    Posey’s shot was probably gonna be a hit anyway, but freaking finally.
    Why don’t the flipping DBax play like this against. the Dodgers?

  30. djloo27 said, on June 12, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    If Maxwell hits into a DP, I would DFA him before he even gets back to the dugout…

    • willedav said, on June 12, 2015 at 10:00 pm

      Probably his Swan song til Pence gets back unless he gets some hits.

      Not a whole lot of OFs in NL batting 8th.

  31. djloo27 said, on June 12, 2015 at 9:36 pm

    Bum deal for Maddy…

  32. blade3colorado said, on June 12, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    Kershaw, et. al., are blowing it against the Friars . . . but have come back again, so now tied at 3 apiece.

  33. giants54 said, on June 12, 2015 at 10:00 pm

    Big moment, good test for Strick.

  34. zumiee said, on June 12, 2015 at 10:48 pm

    The Giants are now 3-5 against Arizona. Very frustrating.

  35. James said, on June 12, 2015 at 10:50 pm

    Is there still a basketball game tonight?

  36. snarkk said, on June 12, 2015 at 11:33 pm

    Giants don’t have Pence or Blanco, need OFers. Yet, McDP is on the 25 and playing as much as I am. Non-sensical…

  37. willedav said, on June 13, 2015 at 8:41 am

    Loo mentioned Pagan earlier…his numbers have fallen off the table like a 12-6 curveball.
    OPS is down to .649. He actually isn’t doing much more than Maxwell. 4 steals at 3/8 pole of season.

    When you start to miss Blanco (whose numbers in half as many ABs granted blow Pagan’s away) in the OF, that says a lot. Not sure if he’s hit bottom (or not fully healthy), but hope he picks it up, and soon.

    • snarkk said, on June 13, 2015 at 11:24 am

      I think Pagan is out of sorts due to the LU positions he is in. Aoki is doing fine up top, but I think Pagan misses being the leadoff. He’s not a #3 hole guy, nor is he a #8 or #7. IMO he’s a guy searching for LU identity…

  38. unca_chuck said, on June 13, 2015 at 8:54 am

    WEll, the cupboard is pretty bare in Sacto. Ford or Perez? Ryan Lollis? These guys are all pushing 30 . . .

    Carbonell’s on the 40-man, but he’s batting .153 in AA.

    • snarkk said, on June 13, 2015 at 11:26 am

      Carbonell got paid something like $1.25 million or some such. You get what you pay for out of Cuba. He’s permanent minor league fodder…

  39. snarkk said, on June 13, 2015 at 11:31 am

    Speaking of OFers, I’ll go on another version of my OFer rant. I believe 8 or so OFers were chosen in round 1. Out of the 40 rounds in the draft, the Giants took 5 OFers, total, if my counting was correct. Could be 4, might be 6, if I missed one in either direction. I think they took two CFers in rounds 5 and 6, or 4 and 5, pretty high actually, for the Giants. We’ll see if Charlie the Chimp threw the darts well in those two rounds. The rest of their OFer draftees were taken in double digit rounds. Looked like about 80% of all the SF picks were pitchers. The Giants just don’t give a shit about developing outfielders. The game plan is to get pitching internally from a high volume of selections, and worry about OFers on the fly, and through trades of their identified second level pitching talent. After 20 years of failure in developing even close to a really good MLB quality OFer from inside the org, there is no other explanation IMO other than it’s just not a priority. Having grown up watching the Giants have superior home-grown OF talent reach the big club, it’s something I miss. At least Aoki is fun to watch, baserunning warts and all, and Pence is cool when he’s not hurt. Since the Gyros can draft/develop good IF talent, it peeves me they won’t develop ONE really good OFer. If Ford or Perez are the only choices in Sac after this Parker kid (.271 BA in 262 AAA at bats), who is getting no run in SF anyway, that is ridiculous for OF talent at AAA…

    • alleykat69 said, on June 13, 2015 at 11:59 am

      Yeah Snarkk sure miss the days when the Giants cranked out home grown stud Outfielders one after another.
      My list and I’m sure I’ll forget a few:
      Bobby Bonds,Ken Henderson,Gary Maddox, Gary Matthews, Jack Clark,Bad Ass Chili Davis ( toughest Giant running the bases ever running into Catchers!!)they sure had talented home grown players, that they just can’t seem to draft anymore, guess we’re fortunate we’ve struck gold on the homegrown infield& pitching though..

  40. alleykat69 said, on June 13, 2015 at 11:39 am

    Mac Williamson’s hitting.295 with the chipmunks/ oops squirrels, has the power, probably needs more seasoning, but if it came down to the trash takin out,I’m for him over Perez,Ford,Lollis?
    And WTF besides the 4 mil contract is McDP still on this team?

    • snarkk said, on June 13, 2015 at 11:46 am

      Yeah, this Williamson guy is the only OFer we’ve really heard about for 2 years now. He’s hitting .290 so far at Richmond with 5 HRs in over 200 ABs. Had the TJ surgery. Sounds like another OFer that will never make it. At this point, I won’t believe any Giants OF farmhand is worth a darn until proved otherwise. I’ll be happy to be surprised…

    • snarkk said, on June 13, 2015 at 11:51 am

      As for McDP, he’s earning his checks by advising Duffy how to play third, I guess. If this were the Yanks, they’d have kicked this dude to the curb and never looked back…

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