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Hitting the Re-Start Button

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 6, 2015

If you think this is rock bottom, take a gander at who’s starting for the Dodgers tonight….

Yikes.

Good chance that Niese is a Giant this year so leave a little love in your heart for him. Unless, of course, we keep losing and Sabean waves The Bad Penny flag again….

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  1. Bozo said, on July 6, 2015 at 6:56 am

    My trip to DC. The fireworks were nice…
    The end.

    • chipower9 said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:03 am

      Thought about you, brother. Rough trip…

  2. willedav said, on July 6, 2015 at 7:10 am

    News about Pence probably best thing about entire road trip. He and Aoki return Giants are different team.
    One of Bagg’s bloggers reposted the Pence skit about “when Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.”
    Every season SF won it all there were extreme low points—including last year after 42-21 start.

    Susac, btw 1-16 on the trip with 7 Ks, facing mostly RHP. He’s hitting .197 for the year vs. RHP with an OPS of .607. He tears up LHP, but…
    If you move Posey somewhere, even if his numbers improve, you’ve still got a hole at C.

    Loo, what would SF do with JA Happ? They already have 6 SPs (with Hudson on DL where he has to come off at some point) and Vogs has pitched pretty well lately. I think ESPN guy said he has ERA of 2.70 in last 10 starts, hardly worth sending him to the pen for. He wasn’t the problem pitcher last night either—Kontos Lopez Strickland gave up last 2 runs.

    • chipower9 said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:04 am

      Almost impossible to navigate a 162 game schedule and not hit some tough streaks.

  3. Carstie Clausen said, on July 6, 2015 at 7:26 am

    A day for recovery and reevaluation. Willedav’s comments on Susac are duly noted. Likewise those on Pence and Aoki. We did find out amidst the hurricane that Peavy is back on track and that Osich is apparently prime for The Show. We also discovered, though, that batting 3rd may be a bit much responsibility just yet for Duffy. Most of the losses were close and in the case of Washington, to a good team. It’s not all over yet, gang.

    • chipower9 said, on July 6, 2015 at 1:02 pm

      Hey Stix, good call on Osich. You and I both have been bantering his name about as a lefty replacement for Affeldt ever since Jeremy started sputtering. I like the kid alot. He may be up to stay…

  4. wilcojoe said, on July 6, 2015 at 7:31 am

    Normally after a roadie like this, I would be calling for us to be sellers at the deadline. But fool me once, shame on you, you know the rest…WillieD is right, Bochy’s in game revelation about Pence was the best news of the game and the series…Just heard that the World Cup ratings were nearly double that of the last few World Series…I have to admit, Ex Cal Bear Alex Morgan might be the hottest female athlete of all time. I still have her sports illustrated spread from a couple years back under my bed.

  5. snarkk said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:13 am

    I’ll believe Pence is back in good shape and not debilitated when I see it, and he doesn’t have a relapse. I think they have time to let him heal, rehab, and then start swinging for the fences in batting practice…

  6. willedav said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:45 am

    Loo posted last night about Pence, from in game Olney/bochy interview where he said Pence could be back in there 2-3 days instead of after AS break.
    This should mean they can put Pagan on the DL, and I do believe he has legit injuries. The -100 games guys could still win their side of the bet.

    Saw something about SF being interested in Gerardo Parra of Brewers, always a fine OF who had off year last year and got dumped off by AZ. Good solid player, maybe insurance if Aoki out a littler longer/ or he and Pence need time off. Obvious upgrade to the bench over Max.
    He is not a CF tho, so otherwise Blanco is only guy for that spot. He’s playing well so far.

    Adrianza made a fine play at 3b last night too–good backhand stab and throw to get an out at 1b. Maybe not ml caliber hitter but should add good D to IF guys in need of a day off.

    • chipower9 said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:10 am

      Pagan has played in 77 games. 79 games to go for Giants. I just need him to play in 23 more games. I like my chances of collecting on my “Pagan plays in over 100 games this year” bet.

  7. Bozo said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:47 am

    Just got a call from the World Traveler, looks like I’ll be meeting up with Blade in a few.
    As the Flap World Turns.

    • chipower9 said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:12 am

      That is awesome. I see from FB that the dude has been all over the place…but that is nothing new. Toss back a cold one (or three) for me!

  8. willedav said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:54 am

    I do think Nats have quite a bit of extra motivation vs. Giants. Everyone wants to take their best shot at WS champs, but since they see other so seldom this one meant a lot to them.
    Williams had to answer critics about taking out his SP, their inability to score vs. Petit and losing the 18 inning game on Belt’s HR, et al.
    They can laugh now, but Nats (like LA) haven’t proven anything with reg season success.

    • giants54 said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:13 am

      Imagine there is some added motivation….it seemed Pirates were completely and fully cranked and psyched …you’d would have thought it was the playoffs.

  9. unca_chuck said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:59 am

    Surkamp indeed. Jeeze, who knew he was still bouncing around the league?

    Just watch. He’ll throw a 3-hit shutout tonight.

  10. pawliekokonuts said, on July 6, 2015 at 10:44 am

    Go, Giants. 3in5. Champions Together. Just had to make sure I still had my bask on.

  11. xoot said, on July 6, 2015 at 10:50 am

    the espn crew was generally hard on Susac last night, but the main point of their attack was right: He looked lost during the Scuzzi/Vogelsong/Bochy blow up–a kid trying to make sense of what adults were doing all around him. One of his throws to 2B was weak and wild. I have no confidence he can call a game. At 1-16 in the last 6 games, 7 SOs and no BBs there’s not much excuse for continuing with him, is there? Hector’s skull is still reverberating from his last bell ringing, so I guess that leaves Quiroz–but not more than twice per week.

  12. twinfan1 said, on July 6, 2015 at 10:59 am

    I believe that Hudson, Timmy, Vogelsong, Affeldt, Petit, and Casilla all have their contacts up after this year . I know that some here think differently but I think that MadBum, Cain, Heston, and Peavy will be a strong 4. Of the minor league starters I can see Beede, Mejia, Blackburn ,and Stratton having a *chance* for the 5.
    Relievers who should stay are Kontos, Strickland, Osich , Romo,Lopez. Maybe Vogey stays on in Petit’s role. Presuming that that is way they go, that would leave 2 spots. I’m going to leave another spot, figuring on an injury. So I see a free agent starter if a guy isn’t traded for at the deadline this year. I’ll also throw Vogey out. So there are 2 spots for relievers and I see them coming from within. I’d *guess* that Blackburn gets Petit’s spot and Broadway,Cordier, and maybe Law compete for the last spot.Who closes? Kontos or Strickland.
    But of course there is work to do this year.And everything will be fine.
    Go Ishi.

    • chipower9 said, on July 6, 2015 at 1:19 pm

      Pretty much. Petit is AE and a FA in 2017. Team has an option on Casilla with a 1 mil buyout.

      Well, Cain and Peavy both came back better than I thought. Before that I had said for some time I thought they may need a starter to make the post-season and have a chance to go deep. The way this team has been so fragile, that may still be the case. I agree with most of your synopsis on who stays and goes next year. But hey, we still have 79 games to go for this campaign, and then there is the post season and WS, too. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • twinfan1 said, on July 6, 2015 at 3:00 pm

        As the Seal Clubber and I used to say, I’m still “sanguine ” about our chances this year.

  13. alleykat69 said, on July 6, 2015 at 11:40 am

    Lots of F/A pitchers on the market next year or this year via trades..
    Cueto, Leake,Grienke,etc etc.
    Though I prefer as a solid #2 the guy that just beat us Jordan Zimmerman,real nice compilment piece of the puzzle with Bum..

  14. Irish Kevin said, on July 6, 2015 at 12:46 pm

    So the rumor mill is working, article on BR, Cameron Maybin, Gerardo Parra among outfield targets

    • chipower9 said, on July 6, 2015 at 1:23 pm

      Yes, but the Braves are not interested in dealing Maybin. Parra was mentioned earlier on this thread and I could see him as a good fit to mix in with our other OFers.

  15. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2015 at 2:07 pm

    What a gentleman John (Bozo) is . . . More later, including “East West” handshake/meeting photos, etc. I had a couple of lodging problems and am in the process of making it right. Grrrrrr . . .

    • Bozo said, on July 6, 2015 at 5:22 pm

      Did you get a place? Wha’ happened?

  16. chipower9 said, on July 6, 2015 at 2:38 pm

    I beg to differ on those ready to run Susac out of town. The kid has had under 200 ML ABs. It is commonly agreed that the typical player needs at least 500 ABs before you can really guage their hitting prowess (or lack thereof) in MLB. And catcher is not exactly the easiest position in the world. They have to learn the nuances of each pitcher on a staff (typically 12 or 13).

    All players go through spells (every starter on this team has had at least one this year). Susac’s lifetime stats to date:

    .261, .327, .429, .756.

    I think the kid is gonna be fine, and still think he is the heir aparent when Posey moves from behind the dish. I certainly don’t think there are any current alternatives in the minors that are better.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2015 at 2:59 pm

      Most publications and baseball people indicate the Giants have 2 frontline catchers, adding that most MLB teams are fortunate to have 1. Consequently, I’m down with everything Chi said above. Sheesh, catcher is the most difficult position to pick up. Give the kid some time. What did Cleavon Little tell the townspeople in Blazing Saddles?

      “You’d do it for Randolph Scott.”

      • chipower9 said, on July 6, 2015 at 3:40 pm

        Bahaha…love the Cleavon/Blazing Saddles reference. That is cool that you met-up with John. Happy Trails, brother.

  17. Flavor said, on July 6, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    looks like Surkamp is going to replace the dude starting tonight for the Dodgers after a couple of innings. Thought he was going to be starting.

  18. xoot said, on July 6, 2015 at 4:18 pm

    It would be nice to see Crawford and Panik in the AS game together, turning a DP.

    • alleykat69 said, on July 6, 2015 at 4:34 pm

      Xoot
      That would be great if Crawford& Panik could turn 2, unfortunately probably only a force after a dodger (Adrian Gonzalez) drops the perfect throw from Panik or Crawford..

    • wilcojoe said, on July 6, 2015 at 4:35 pm

      Welll we may see it happen. Both elected as reserves along with Bum.

  19. twinfan1 said, on July 6, 2015 at 5:01 pm

    On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the high on the hate scale, how much do you all hate tonight’s LU?

    • wilcojoe said, on July 6, 2015 at 5:13 pm

      With a lineup like that? In the words of Del Mar Dennis, “they don’t deserve to win the fucking game.” ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • Flavor said, on July 6, 2015 at 6:12 pm

      hate is the wrong word. *resigned* is more like it. At least for me.

  20. djloo27 said, on July 6, 2015 at 6:14 pm

    Seems like Sabean hasn’t traded a guy off the ML roster in ages. Torres and Ramirez for Pagan is the last one I remember. Before that, who knows? This year might have to be different to get what he (or Evans) needs…

  21. blade3colorado said, on July 6, 2015 at 6:34 pm

    I spent a fantastic day in the Outer Banks. The area is very diverse, e.g., swamps, forest, islands, beaches, ocean, and rivers. I’ve never really seen anything like it. Bozo (John) met up with me and we had lunch at this nice restaurant overlooking a wharf. John is quite a character – very, very funny. On more then a few occasions, his stories had me doubled over with laughter. We chatted about a wide variety of subjects, including: Katrina, hurricanes versus earthquakes (neither for him. Thank you.); catalyst for moving to N. Carolina (a woman of course. Ha.); his work with the Federal Reserve (he was very high up in this quasi government/private entity); retirement (yep, he likes it ๐Ÿ™‚ ); and of course, being a Giants and Flapper fan.

    All in all, a wonderful day. I have posted about 2 dozen photos on Facebook. Flavor feel free to download them or alternatively, I can email them to you in a few days.

    • Bozo said, on July 6, 2015 at 7:19 pm

      Blade, thanks for stopping by and lunch, the next one is my twist. Just to clarify, I might have been high on occasion, but I wasn’t really high up, at the FRB. Have a safe trip.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 7, 2015 at 5:32 am

        You’re welcome!

  22. zumiee said, on July 6, 2015 at 7:04 pm

    Lots of great stuff, Flappers!

    Congrats to the 4 Giants All-Stars!

    Let’s get a win tonight!

    • Bozo said, on July 6, 2015 at 7:21 pm

      Panik and Craw making it is pretty damn cool.
      I’ve seen enough losses lately, time for a win.

  23. Bozo said, on July 6, 2015 at 7:34 pm

    Looks like we have a pretty strong bench tonight.

  24. Flavor said, on July 6, 2015 at 7:42 pm

    Blade/Bozo– just saw you two hooked up for lunch. That’s rad. I’ll pop a couple of those pics into the ‘bucket when I get the chance. Flappers meeting up around the world: it NEVER gets old, does it?

  25. alleykat69 said, on July 6, 2015 at 7:47 pm

    Even though they got out of the inning, bonehead play like Heston& Belt not communicating with no 1st basemen has to just frost Bochy’s ass..

  26. alleykat69 said, on July 6, 2015 at 7:50 pm

    Really sad when our pitcher gets the 1st hit..

  27. zumiee said, on July 6, 2015 at 7:55 pm

    Two run-challenged offenses.

    • James said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:05 pm

      Well, one of them is 4th in the league in runs scored. The other team does have a good pitching staff unlike the one with one of the NL’s top offenses, which is why the teams have nearly identical records.

  28. Flavor said, on July 6, 2015 at 7:56 pm

    3 errors already and we aren’t even done with the 4th

    • zumiee said, on July 6, 2015 at 7:58 pm

      Fortunate to still be 0-0.

  29. willedav said, on July 6, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    Chi, Hicks last year was not gonna get 500 ABs, because he sucked.
    Max isn’t gonna get 500 this year either, for the same reason.
    Susac seems fine as a part time backup, esp vs. LHP.
    Full time where he faces RHP most of the time? I don’t think so.
    If you want to move Posey, then you have to live with what Susac can give you…which imo is way less than Belt.
    Susac had a good month in June, good for him. Can he keep that going?

  30. zumiee said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    Maxwell’s Sliver Hammer.

  31. Macdog said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:19 pm

    One hit — by the pitcher — and three errors. Thank you Sunday Night Baseball.

  32. djloo27 said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    Posey has a tendency to go after the first pitch in these spots…

    • djloo27 said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:28 pm

      and the second.

  33. alleykat69 said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    That,s right Willie,
    What it all boils down too, Giants only win 3 in 5 cause Buster Posey is behind the plate handling all the pressure of postseason baseball, and knowing all his pitchers personalitys.
    Susac would never get the starts in the playoffs cause Boch would not trust him in those high stress games..
    Regular season, fine get him some starts for expereince and a day-off for Posey, but come playoffs Susac is on the bench…

    • xoot said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:46 pm

      17 PAs in the 6 game bad trip just ended, 1 single, and he’s not good behind the plate, at least not yet.

  34. zumiee said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    Surkamp gave up a 3-run jack to Howard.

  35. zumiee said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:35 pm

    Herrera homered off Surkamp.

  36. unca_chuck said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    Don’t see that every day

  37. djloo27 said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:48 pm

    Moronic baserunning by Lagares…

  38. unca_chuck said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    Yeah no reason not Togo halfway on that.

  39. zumiee said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    The 1-0 pitch-out was a little strange.

  40. Bozo said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    Wow. Heads up play, Blanco.

  41. djloo27 said, on July 6, 2015 at 8:55 pm

    Quadruple clutch?

  42. djloo27 said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    LOL-lis…

    • xoot said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:14 pm

      triple lullz

  43. twinfan1 said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    Tough to put it on the LU with regulars taking up the rear.

  44. zumiee said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    The women’s soccer game was 5-2; who’s laughing now? ๐Ÿ™‚

  45. Macdog said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    Getting beat by Nieuwenhuis, who flat-out stinks, might be the low point.

  46. djloo27 said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:14 pm

  47. zumiee said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    Blanco kicks the ball around a bit on defense sometimes.

  48. djloo27 said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    The meat of our batting order is more like soy…

  49. zumiee said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    Did you guys see in the news the guy who tried to launch fireworks off his head?
    Bad idea.

    • Lisle Ellis said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:43 pm

      Wow … proof that the war on consciousness rages on.

  50. alleykat69 said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    Ballgame!

  51. zumiee said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:36 pm

    Pfffffftt……..

  52. xoot said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:36 pm

    as a noted economist once said, “When the shit hits the fan, some of you in the wrong positions may think you bore the brunt and some of you in more protected sectors may think you escaped almost unscathed, but what really matters is how bad the shit is. If it’s bad, very bad shit, then it’s bad for everyone when it hits the fan.”

    Yet we fans hang in. Damndest thing.

  53. giants54 said, on July 6, 2015 at 9:57 pm

    Eerie resemblance to 2013 when they went 5-15 before the break. Even got swept by the Mets July 8-10 at home.

  54. Macdog said, on July 6, 2015 at 10:07 pm

    At this rate, Bochy’s best chance for his next win might be the All-Star Game.

  55. Paul Sorensen said, on July 6, 2015 at 10:31 pm

    Craig, not sure the team can hit anything at the moment, nevermind the restart button…. ๐Ÿ™‚

  56. Lisle Ellis said, on July 6, 2015 at 10:36 pm

    Looks like most of our guys phoned it in tonight. Damn, I’d just like too see the Giants defend their championship one of these years like … er, … well, like the champs they are supposed to be. Yeah, I know … high class problems … at least we’ve won some championships .. and yeah, I know we have injuries and we’ve had some brutal travel. However, it doesn’t change the fact that I’m just so sick of hearing about the fckin Cards and Bums and Nats and just about every other mufu team … but at least the Cards are there contending like motherfckers practically every year … gotta respect that … I know, I know, they ain’t won shit … and we have! Still, these 7 & 8 game losing streaks, especially losing games the way we have … and when our starting pitcher has a better BA than more than half the startin LU!! This shit is making me crazy .. I gotta either go rub one out, tie one on, tie off, fire up or all,of the above … Prob all of the above! Ugh, so depressing … I miss the Reverend! At least he plays like his hair on fire … These guys look like they’re asleep at the wheel … They are so fuckin boring to watch! … Ok, that’s my rant, just had to vent a bit!

    • zumiee said, on July 6, 2015 at 11:15 pm

      The Giants lately….

      • blade3colorado said, on July 7, 2015 at 5:36 am

        I passed this place in Kansas.

  57. mrsprtdude said, on July 7, 2015 at 1:06 am

    Lack of offense is just plain hard to watch. Sigh

  58. willedav said, on July 7, 2015 at 7:42 am

    Can’t blame Bochy for not trying—mixing LU, moving guys around, giving call ups some ABs.
    Casilla had been rested, Romo started the 9th after finishing off 8th…nothing he tried worked.

    Even after the road trip and long flight, it’s still good to get back and play baseball.
    And that’s the other good thing about having another 5 games at home this week.

  59. unca_chuck said, on July 7, 2015 at 7:47 am

    Gave up after the double to put it at 2nd and 3rd with one out in the 8th. Just figured we’d be in extras or toast.

    Toast it was. . . . Next man up and all that just isn’t happening. Need pence and Aoki back. Hard to stomach some clown in March derailing Rev’s season so badly.

    The way they are losing is just galling. And boooooooring.


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